CS>Forum

[Debra & David]

Mike.

A few points...

1. Technology is going to kill off this list sooner or later. (Probably 
sooner). Its becoming increasingly difficult to even view it these days. 
'Thunderbird' on some new PC's won't even display the digest  without 
clicking each individual post. And responding is getting harder all the 
time as has been mentioned about a thousand times.


2. As a list for the dissemination of info about silver its starting to 
fail because no thread nowadays proceeds beyond the most basic level.  
Threads or questions get broken or jumbled up so fast they soon become 
incoherent.  It seems that most threads on this list are now not about 
silver at all, and the ones that are are so basic that few members have 
much enthusiasm for answering them.


3. Your most experienced and knowledgeable members are posting less and 
less. (And potentially valuable new members dissappear as fast as they 
appear. How long did Uncle Ben last?)


4. A new forum will be a big success if you support it and eventually 
shut this one down.


David



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Re: CS>Silver-list Forum

[Kenneth Taylor]

I received your message Floyd

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Re: CS>Silver-list Forum

[John Popelish]

On 02/15/2015 05:31 PM, Floyd Petri wrote:

*I am extremely happy that so many of you don’t want to
change anything.

(snip)

Well I am keeping this
one short and sweet without any long stuff and see if it
goes through. Just my two cents.*


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Re: CS>Silver-list Forum

[Lena Guyot]

I got it too, Floyd.
Léna
On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Ron wrote:

> Floyd,
> I got this one so maybe it has started working for you.
> 
> I admire your tolerance and persistence and certainly hope it is rewarded.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On 2/15/2015 2:31 PM, Floyd Petri wrote:
>> I am extremely happy that so many of you don’t want to change anything. Just 
>> leave it like it is. I am happy for you. I am happy that you receive all the 
>> posts and can post. However, all my emails bounce except every once in a 
>> while. Those that do get through I never receive anyone’s reply or answers 
>> to my questions. Even the direct emails to Mike the owner bounces. My 
>> returned emails always indicate that it is the Silver-list that does not 
>> recognize me. Even my email to Mike to see if I was banned bounced. Well I 
>> am keeping this one short and sweet without any long stuff and see if it 
>> goes through. Just my two cents.
>>  
>> Floyd
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
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Re: CS> Forum

[V]

I agree with you N. I was anything but a conspiracy theorist for a long
time but once you head down the rabbit hole far enough and wide enough,
there is plenty to convince me.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Neville  wrote:

> Funny you should mention second email address John.  I was locked out of
> THIS List until I provided a SECOND email address, and/or my mobile phone
> number, under the guise of it being for MY added security - WHAT THE...?
> And by some flukey coincidence THAT is when some posters messages started
> disappearing?  I would get a reply to someone in my 'Inbox' never having
> received the original posters message, and at other times messages ended up
> in my 'Junk' box, again - WHAT THE...?  I've been a member here for a
> little while now and *never* have I had any of that occurring before.
>
> Even with YouTube, I'm into Locksport and some subscribers to my channel
> have been "unsubbed" on occasion?  And some end up being blocked as
> suspected "spam"?  Even though these people have been subbed to my channel
> for a couple of years?
>
> Conspiracy theory?.Everyone involved with the public domain is being
> "steered" somewhere, and it's got zilch to do with an individuals
> security.  Although with all the terrorist activity today they would argue
> it IS for your and my security - Yeah, right!
>
> Mike summed it up perfectly for me..."Security by obscurity", but that's
> becoming more impossible as each day passes.  Somewhere, someone can
> monitor EVERYONE'S business.  Nothing new perhaps, but I wonder just how
> many people understand the full consequences of that 'secret' access?
>
> As it is with todays bureaucracy tripping over their own paperwork, so it
> is with computer spies tripping over their own computer programming to gain
> access to your and my privacy.  Little "glitches" appear from time to time
> as they are fiddling about with their binary codes or whatever in their
> programs.
>
> Like when Microsoft changed from 'XP' {I think} to Vista, I could not beg,
> buy or borrow the old XP program anywhere?  H...I wonder why that was?
>  *Every* store I approached could not possibly have sold the last one they
> had the day before I asked for it?  It completely vanished off the face of
> the earth when I asked each store to instal 'XP' and not Vista.  Could it
> be because that old program didn't have an inbuilt facility enabling
> "someone?" to access your computer at the push of a button.  Well that's my
> opinion anyway.  Everything today is "linked" to a Big Brother data base
> somewhere.
>
> See, the worlds hysteria and paranoia is even starting to get to me .
> I certainly won't be sorry when my 'use by' date comes around.
>
> Apologies for this being just a tad Off Topic, but I don't think the
> idiosyncrasies have got anything to do with this email platform.
>
> N.
>
> > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:19:21 -0500
> > From: jpopel...@gmail.com
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS> Forum
> >
> > On 02/15/2015 12:56 PM, Ron wrote:
> > > A dratted inconvenience. All of my replies go into my Sent
> > > folder so I have to check Archives each time.
> >
> > You could subscribe with a second email address, that would
> > get your replies, if they went out, successfully. That
> > would be less trouble than checking the archives.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Popelish
>
>

RE: CS> Forum

[Neville]

Funny you should mention second email address John.  I was locked out of THIS 
List until I provided a SECOND email address, and/or my mobile phone number, 
under the guise of it being for MY added security - WHAT THE...?  And by some 
flukey coincidence THAT is when some posters messages started disappearing?  I 
would get a reply to someone in my 'Inbox' never having received the original 
posters message, and at other times messages ended up in my 'Junk' box, again - 
WHAT THE...?  I've been a member here for a little while now and *never* have I 
had any of that occurring before.
Even with YouTube, I'm into Locksport and some subscribers to my channel have 
been "unsubbed" on occasion?  And some end up being blocked as suspected 
"spam"?  Even though these people have been subbed to my channel for a couple 
of years?

Conspiracy theory?.Everyone involved with the public domain is being 
"steered" somewhere, and it's got zilch to do with an individuals security.  
Although with all the terrorist activity today they would argue it IS for your 
and my security - Yeah, right!
Mike summed it up perfectly for me..."Security by obscurity", but that's 
becoming more impossible as each day passes.  Somewhere, someone can monitor 
EVERYONE'S business.  Nothing new perhaps, but I wonder just how many people 
understand the full consequences of that 'secret' access?
As it is with todays bureaucracy tripping over their own paperwork, so it is 
with computer spies tripping over their own computer programming to gain access 
to your and my privacy.  Little "glitches" appear from time to time as they are 
fiddling about with their binary codes or whatever in their programs.
Like when Microsoft changed from 'XP' {I think} to Vista, I could not beg, buy 
or borrow the old XP program anywhere?  H...I wonder why that was?  *Every* 
store I approached could not possibly have sold the last one they had the day 
before I asked for it?  It completely vanished off the face of the earth when I 
asked each store to instal 'XP' and not Vista.  Could it be because that old 
program didn't have an inbuilt facility enabling "someone?" to access your 
computer at the push of a button.  Well that's my opinion anyway.  Everything 
today is "linked" to a Big Brother data base somewhere.
See, the worlds hysteria and paranoia is even starting to get to me .  I 
certainly won't be sorry when my 'use by' date comes around.
Apologies for this being just a tad Off Topic, but I don't think the 
idiosyncrasies have got anything to do with this email platform.
N.

> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:19:21 -0500
> From: jpopel...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Forum
> 
> On 02/15/2015 12:56 PM, Ron wrote:
> > A dratted inconvenience. All of my replies go into my Sent
> > folder so I have to check Archives each time.
> 
> You could subscribe with a second email address, that would 
> get your replies, if they went out, successfully.  That 
> would be less trouble than checking the archives.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> John Popelish

  

Re: CS>Silver-list Forum

[Lola Harris]

Has come thru just fine, Floyd.   
Lola
- Original Message -
From: Floyd Petri 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:31:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CS>Silver-list Forum

I am extremely happy that so many of you don’t want to change anything. Just 
leave it like it is. I am happy for you. I am happy that you receive all the 
posts and can post. However, all my emails bounce except every once in a while. 
Those that do get through I never receive anyone’s reply or answers to my 
questions. Even the direct emails to Mike the owner bounces. My returned emails 
always indicate that it is the Silver-list that does not recognize me. Even my 
email to Mike to see if I was banned bounced. Well I am keeping this one short 
and sweet without any long stuff and see if it goes through. Just my two cents. 
Floyd 


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Re: CS>Silver-list Forum

[Ron]

Floyd,
I got this one so maybe it has started working for you.

I admire your tolerance and persistence and certainly hope it is rewarded.

Ron

On 2/15/2015 2:31 PM, Floyd Petri wrote:


*I am extremely happy that so many of you don’t want to change 
anything. Just leave it like it is. I am happy for you. I am happy 
that you receive all the posts and can post. However, all my emails 
bounce except every once in a while. Those that do get through I never 
receive anyone’s reply or answers to my questions. Even the direct 
emails to Mike the owner bounces. My returned emails always indicate 
that it is the Silver-list that does not recognize me. Even my email 
to Mike to see if I was banned bounced. Well I am keeping this one 
short and sweet without any long stuff and see if it goes through. 
Just my two cents.*


**

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CS>Silver-list Forum

[Floyd Petri]

I am extremely happy that so many of you don't want to change anything. Just
leave it like it is. I am happy for you. I am happy that you receive all the
posts and can post. However, all my emails bounce except every once in a
while. Those that do get through I never receive anyone's reply or answers
to my questions. Even the direct emails to Mike the owner bounces. My
returned emails always indicate that it is the Silver-list that does not
recognize me. Even my email to Mike to see if I was banned bounced. Well I
am keeping this one short and sweet without any long stuff and see if it
goes through. Just my two cents.

 

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Re: CS>Forum

[Ron]

It is not working well for many and a fix would be nice.
But I agree that it is not worth the change.
Ron

On 2/15/2015 12:40 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:

I whole-heartedly agree with Debbie's sentiments!
Be well,
Léna
On Feb 15, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Debbie Phelps wrote:

Remember the old adage: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." It works 
well for me like it is, and like many here said,..."it ain't broke."

Of course, I'm adverse to change, but I'll do whatever is decided.

Debbie






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Re: CS>Forum

[Lena Guyot]

I whole-heartedly agree with Debbie's sentiments!
Be well,
Léna
On Feb 15, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Debbie Phelps wrote:

> Remember the old adage: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." It works well for 
> me like it is, and like many here said,..."it ain't broke."
> Of course, I'm adverse to change, but I'll do whatever is decided.
> 
> Debbie

CS>Forum

[Debbie Phelps]

Remember the old adage: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." It works well
for me like it is, and like many here said,..."it ain't broke."
Of course, I'm adverse to change, but I'll do whatever is decided.

Debbie

Re: CS> Forum

[Kenneth Taylor]

It's true, from what my introductory email said, however the reality  is, the 
few times I have sent messages, I get no such 'original', except that which is 
kept in my sent folder. 

Kenneth
Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise

Re: CS> Forum

[Jason]

...actually, this list is set up so that the sender of the message to 
the list also gets a copy of the email sent; at least, it works that way 
sometimes.  :o)


~Jason


On 2/15/2015 10:22 AM, Ron wrote:

Interesting idea but don't let's do this all at once. Ha.


On 2/15/2015 10:19 AM, John Popelish wrote:

On 02/15/2015 12:56 PM, Ron wrote:

A dratted inconvenience. All of my replies go into my Sent
folder so I have to check Archives each time.


You could subscribe with a second email address, that would get your
replies, if they went out, successfully.  That would be less trouble
than checking the archives.




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Re: CS> Forum

[Ron]

Interesting idea but don't let's do this all at once. Ha.


On 2/15/2015 10:19 AM, John Popelish wrote:

On 02/15/2015 12:56 PM, Ron wrote:

A dratted inconvenience. All of my replies go into my Sent
folder so I have to check Archives each time.


You could subscribe with a second email address, that would get your 
replies, if they went out, successfully.  That would be less trouble 
than checking the archives.





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Re: CS> Forum

[John Popelish]

On 02/15/2015 12:56 PM, Ron wrote:

A dratted inconvenience. All of my replies go into my Sent
folder so I have to check Archives each time.


You could subscribe with a second email address, that would 
get your replies, if they went out, successfully.  That 
would be less trouble than checking the archives.


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Re: CS> Forum

[Joe Huard]

I have to go in the opposite direction on that claim. In all of the 
groups I am on, my posts and replies appear on the list and get sent to 
all on the list including me. That way, you can view the entire thread 
in one folder without having to check your Sent folder.
That's how it usually works when working correctly. I also experience 
posts and replies that do not end up in the archives, even on other 
lists. Nothing is perfect.

Joe
On 2015-02-15 12:40 PM, John Popelish wrote:

On 02/15/2015 12:14 PM, Ron wrote:

I see my reply is in the archives right enough but did not
show in my inbox.
Ron


I don't think the server is programmed to send a copy of your own 
reply back to you, unless you get the digest.


It is assumed that you already have a copy of your reply, in your Sent 
folder, so you would have no use for a second copy.  At least that has 
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Re: CS> Forum

[Ron]

A dratted inconvenience. All of my replies go into my Sent folder so I 
have to check Archives each time.


On 2/15/2015 9:40 AM, John Popelish wrote:

On 02/15/2015 12:14 PM, Ron wrote:

I see my reply is in the archives right enough but did not
show in my inbox.
Ron


I don't think the server is programmed to send a copy of your own 
reply back to you, unless you get the digest.


It is assumed that you already have a copy of your reply, in your Sent 
folder, so you would have no use for a second copy.  At least that has 
been the convention on every other list mail server I have used.





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Re: CS> Forum

[John Popelish]

On 02/15/2015 12:14 PM, Ron wrote:

I see my reply is in the archives right enough but did not
show in my inbox.
Ron


I don't think the server is programmed to send a copy of 
your own reply back to you, unless you get the digest.


It is assumed that you already have a copy of your reply, in 
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Re: CS> Forum

[Dan Nave]

I think the lost posts are a problem associated with eskimo.com, not email
lists in general.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Jason  wrote:

> Hi Mike:
>
> I like both formats.
>
> For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about
> 70% of my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually bounce,
> so the only way I know that they don't make it is by checking the archives.
>
> Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server
> software is no longer very reliable.
>
> You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public
> archives, from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One reliable
> open source platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.
>
> There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums. Forums
> are a more affective tool because there is a built in accountability.
> Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone else can post
> conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always very visible,
> allowing visitors to draw their own conclusions based on the information
> presented.  Thread topics can be hashed over until beat dead, and then the
> thread locked and pinned with a fair representation of each unique
> perspective.
>
> Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always reference
> it with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an email list and
> a forum, and they can work well together.
>
> I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam,
> but they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe
> VBulletin does a better job with all of this than the free software I was
> using.
>
> Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when
> one must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound
> links.
>
> ~Jason
>
> On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:
>
>> I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones to
>>
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Re: CS> Forum

[Ron]

I see my reply is in the archives right enough but did not show in my 
inbox.

Ron

On 2/15/2015 9:09 AM, Walter Anderson wrote:

That's an interesting point; I think replies are the ones that haven't worked 
for me--though in my case the service is Outlook.com. I'll have to try pasting 
into a new email next time reply doesn't work. That said, seems replies are 
working fine for me yesterday and today :)

-Original Message-
From: Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun, Feb. 15, 2015 09:09
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Forum

In my case it is "reply" that disappears. If I copy and paste into a new email 
it always goes.
I have thought that it was because I use Thunderbird email client that feeds 
thru Gmail since Gmail does seem to be unfriendly here as Mike has noted in the 
past.

Since I do not reply a lot it is not to much to cope with all considered.
This is a "reply". I may have to redo it the hard way.

Ron

On 2/15/2015 8:56 AM, Walter Anderson wrote:

FYI that's the same problem I've encountered with email--no bounce,
the emails just don't make it to the list. - Walter

-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org]
Sent: Sun, Feb. 15, 2015 08:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Forum

Hi Mike:

I like both formats.

For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about 70% of 
my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually bounce, so the only 
way I know that they don't make it is by checking the archives.

Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server 
software is no longer very reliable.

You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public archives, 
from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One reliable open source 
platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.

There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums.
Forums are a more affective tool because there is a built in accountability.  
Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone else can post 
conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always very visible, allowing 
visitors to draw their own conclusions based on the information presented.  
Thread topics can be hashed over until beat dead, and then the thread locked 
and pinned with a fair representation of each unique perspective.

Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always reference it 
with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an email list and a 
forum, and they can work well together.

I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam, but 
they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe VBulletin does a 
better job with all of this than the free software I was using.

Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when one 
must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound links.

~Jason

On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:

I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones
to

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RE: CS> Forum

[Walter Anderson]

That's an interesting point; I think replies are the ones that haven't worked 
for me--though in my case the service is Outlook.com. I'll have to try pasting 
into a new email next time reply doesn't work. That said, seems replies are 
working fine for me yesterday and today :)

-Original Message-
From: Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sun, Feb. 15, 2015 09:09
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Forum

In my case it is "reply" that disappears. If I copy and paste into a new email 
it always goes.
I have thought that it was because I use Thunderbird email client that feeds 
thru Gmail since Gmail does seem to be unfriendly here as Mike has noted in the 
past.

Since I do not reply a lot it is not to much to cope with all considered.
This is a "reply". I may have to redo it the hard way.

Ron

On 2/15/2015 8:56 AM, Walter Anderson wrote:
> FYI that's the same problem I've encountered with email--no bounce, 
> the emails just don't make it to the list. - Walter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org]
> Sent: Sun, Feb. 15, 2015 08:29
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Forum
>
> Hi Mike:
>
> I like both formats.
>
> For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about 70% 
> of my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually bounce, so the 
> only way I know that they don't make it is by checking the archives.
>
> Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server 
> software is no longer very reliable.
>
> You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public 
> archives, from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One reliable 
> open source platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.
>
> There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums.
> Forums are a more affective tool because there is a built in accountability.  
> Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone else can post 
> conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always very visible, allowing 
> visitors to draw their own conclusions based on the information presented.  
> Thread topics can be hashed over until beat dead, and then the thread locked 
> and pinned with a fair representation of each unique perspective.
>
> Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always reference it 
> with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an email list and a 
> forum, and they can work well together.
>
> I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam, but 
> they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe VBulletin does 
> a better job with all of this than the free software I was using.
>
> Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when one 
> must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound links.
>
> ~Jason
>
> On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:
>> I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones 
>> to
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Re: CS> Forum

[Ron]

In my case it is "reply" that disappears. If I copy and paste into a new 
email it always goes.
I have thought that it was because I use Thunderbird email client that 
feeds thru Gmail since Gmail does seem to be unfriendly here as Mike has 
noted in the past.


Since I do not reply a lot it is not to much to cope with all considered.
This is a "reply". I may have to redo it the hard way.

Ron

On 2/15/2015 8:56 AM, Walter Anderson wrote:

FYI that's the same problem I've encountered with email--no bounce, the emails 
just don't make it to the list. - Walter

-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org]
Sent: Sun, Feb. 15, 2015 08:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Forum

Hi Mike:

I like both formats.

For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about 70% of 
my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually bounce, so the only 
way I know that they don't make it is by checking the archives.

Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server 
software is no longer very reliable.

You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public archives, 
from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One reliable open source 
platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.

There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums.
Forums are a more affective tool because there is a built in accountability.  
Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone else can post 
conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always very visible, allowing 
visitors to draw their own conclusions based on the information presented.  
Thread topics can be hashed over until beat dead, and then the thread locked 
and pinned with a fair representation of each unique perspective.

Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always reference it 
with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an email list and a 
forum, and they can work well together.

I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam, but 
they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe VBulletin does a 
better job with all of this than the free software I was using.

Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when one 
must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound links.

~Jason

On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:

I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones
to


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RE: CS> Forum

[Walter Anderson]

FYI that's the same problem I've encountered with email--no bounce, the emails 
just don't make it to the list. - Walter

-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org] 
Sent: Sun, Feb. 15, 2015 08:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Forum

Hi Mike:

I like both formats.

For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about 70% of 
my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually bounce, so the only 
way I know that they don't make it is by checking the archives.

Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server 
software is no longer very reliable.

You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public archives, 
from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One reliable open source 
platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.

There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums. 
Forums are a more affective tool because there is a built in accountability.  
Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone else can post 
conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always very visible, allowing 
visitors to draw their own conclusions based on the information presented.  
Thread topics can be hashed over until beat dead, and then the thread locked 
and pinned with a fair representation of each unique perspective.

Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always reference it 
with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an email list and a 
forum, and they can work well together.

I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam, but 
they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe VBulletin does a 
better job with all of this than the free software I was using.

Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when one 
must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound links.

~Jason

On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:
> I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones 
> to


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Re: CS> Forum

[Jason]

Hi Mike:

I like both formats.

For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about 
70% of my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually 
bounce, so the only way I know that they don't make it is by checking 
the archives.


Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server 
software is no longer very reliable.


You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public 
archives, from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One 
reliable open source platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.


There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums. 
Forums are a more affective tool because there is a built in 
accountability.  Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone 
else can post conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always 
very visible, allowing visitors to draw their own conclusions based on 
the information presented.  Thread topics can be hashed over until beat 
dead, and then the thread locked and pinned with a fair representation 
of each unique perspective.


Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always 
reference it with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an 
email list and a forum, and they can work well together.


I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam, 
but they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe 
VBulletin does a better job with all of this than the free software I 
was using.


Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when 
one must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound 
links.


~Jason

On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:

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Re: CS> Forum

[Bernadette Burch]

I would write my own email about leaving the website as is, but Rowena's words 
were spoken exactly as the words would have come from me.  I have learned so 
much from everyone associated with this site.  Thank you all. 

B.

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On Feb 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Rowena  wrote:

I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones to a 
separate folder for safekeeping, or copy to a document. They arrive in one's 
mailbox automatically.  I just wouldn't go to a forum.  Quite apart from 
passwords. This has been the best.  Though I don't post much, I could never 
bear to unsubscribe. The silverlist was where I first heard of many things I 
take for granted now. Still, I'd want it to be done the way that causes the 
least inconvenience and effort for you, Mike.  Many thanks for everything over 
the years.
Rowena


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Re: CS> Forum

[Rowena]

I like the individual emails. One can move the especially useful ones to 
a separate folder for safekeeping, or copy to a document. They arrive in 
one's mailbox automatically.  I just wouldn't go to a forum.  Quite 
apart from passwords. This has been the best.  Though I don't post much, 
I could never bear to unsubscribe. The silverlist was where I first 
heard of many things I take for granted now. Still, I'd want it to be 
done the way that causes the least inconvenience and effort for you, 
Mike.  Many thanks for everything over the years.

Rowena


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Re: CS>Treatment for Eye Floaters

[sol]

Sorry, I never have  used any of the Reckeweg products. I did try a 
couple brands of carnosine (I think it was) eye drops for cataracts, but 
they did not help me. I may not have used them consistently enough though.

sol

PT Ferrance wrote:

Hi Sol,
I finally found a website that has #1-89 but there is nothing for 
catarcts.  Where did you get them?

Thanks.
 PT
 


*From:* sol 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 6:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Treatment for Eye Floaters

Perfectly welcome. If you try one of the Reckeweg products I'd like to
know which one and if it helps or not, thanks,
sol



PT Ferrance wrote:
> Thanks, Sol.
> PT
> 
> 

> *From:* sol mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com>>
> **
>
> PT Ferrance wrote:
> > Tara, where do you get Dr. Reikiwigs homeopathics?  I had no hits when
> > I plugged it into two search engines.
> >
> The correct spelling is Reckeweg.
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Re: CS>Treatment for Eye Floaters

[PT Ferrance]

Hi Sol,
I finally found a website that has #1-89 but there is nothing for catarcts.  
Where did you get them?
Thanks.
 PT

 


 From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Treatment for Eye Floaters
 

Perfectly welcome. If you try one of the Reckeweg products I'd like to 
know which one and if it helps or not, thanks,
sol




PT Ferrance wrote:
> Thanks, Sol.
> PT
>  
> 
> *From:* sol 
> **
>
> PT Ferrance wrote:
> > Tara, where do you get Dr. Reikiwigs homeopathics?  I had no hits when
> > I plugged it into two search engines.
> > 
> The correct spelling is Reckeweg.
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Re: CS> Forum

[Tam]

I agree with Harold. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Sandra George  wrote:
> 
> I also agree with Harold - thanks Mike
> 
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is Everything
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with Harold :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, February 14, 2015 5:38 PM, Dianne France 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I concur Harold's statement.  Status Quo.
>>  
>> From: har...@telus.net
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: CS> Forum
>> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:37 -0800
>> 
>> For Mike ;et al;
>> Mike ,don’t don’t change a thing.I’m more than satisfied and happy with the 
>> Status Quo.I don’t post much,but I look forward to getting my bundle.I feel 
>> like I belong to a large and precious family.There is no way to really say 
>> how much I have learned here over the years,and hardly  a day goes by 
>> without me learning something new’'.
>> Thanks again Mike for all you have done for us.
>>  
>> Harold
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: CS> Forum

[Sandra George]

I also agree with Harold - thanks Mike

Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel


> On Feb 14, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Harold :)
> 
> 
> On Saturday, February 14, 2015 5:38 PM, Dianne France 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I concur Harold's statement.  Status Quo.
>  
> From: har...@telus.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS> Forum
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:37 -0800
> 
> For Mike ;et al;
> Mike ,don’t don’t change a thing.I’m more than satisfied and happy with the 
> Status Quo.I don’t post much,but I look forward to getting my bundle.I feel 
> like I belong to a large and precious family.There is no way to really say 
> how much I have learned here over the years,and hardly  a day goes by without 
> me learning something new’'.
> Thanks again Mike for all you have done for us.
>  
> Harold
> 
> 
> 
> 
>