CS>Re: Silver Toxicity Marine Animals

[Phil Morrison]

@Victor & Max

Fish thrive on colloidal silver.

See below:


http://www.thesilveredge.com/using-colloidal-silver-in-your-fish-tank-or-aquarium.shtml#.VuRelz9ft-U

Re: CS>Re: Silver Toxicity Marine Animals

[Max]

Phil, thanks

How many micrograms of silver per liter are we at?
Some papers that go into the mechanisms of toxicity


Multispecies toxicity test for silver nanoparticles to derive hazardous 
concentration based on species sensitivity distribution for the 
protection of aquatic ecosystems

Hazard concentrations at the 5% species of 0.614 μg/L
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285734556_Multispecies_toxicity_test_for_silver_nanoparticles_to_derive_hazardous_concentration_based_on_species_sensitivity_distribution_for_the_protection_of_aquatic_ecosystems

 One of the main mechanisms of toxicity is that it causes oxidative 
stress through the generation of reactive oxygen species and causes 
damage to cellular components including DNA damage, activation of 
antioxidant enzymes, depletion of antioxidant molecules (e.g., 
glutathione), binding and disabling of proteins, and damage to the cell 
membrane


Molecular toxicity mechanism of nanosilver
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261182756_Molecular_toxicity_mechanism_of_nanosilver

Harmful Effects of Nanoparticles on Animals
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jnt/2015/861092/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3359871/
Toxicological studies on silver nanoparticles

Fish Kill: Nanosilver Mutates Fish Embryos
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nanotechnology-silver-nanoparticles-fish-malformation/

Popular nanoparticle causes toxicity in fish, study shows
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/research/2010/100301SepulvedaNanosilver.html
On 3/12/2016 12:23 AM, Phil Morrison wrote:


@Max

There is little evidence that pure colloidal silver is highly toxic to 
any animals, marine or otherwise.


Quite the reverse, in fact, as sickness is highly correlated with 
mineral deficiencies, especially selenium and silver.

CS>Re: Hyperthyroidism

[mk]

  
  


On 3/12/2016 8:05 AM,
  silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


  From: 
  Evan Jones 

Thanks Evan. There's a lot of info to digest here. A couple of
things.

1 - a protocol of detox is needed this time - specifically for a
feline. Small animal medicine. We have now officially removed
ourselves from conventional veterinary practice after thousands upon
thousands of dollars were thrown at the them for absolutely no
relief. So now we do things the better way.

2 - her liver is congested with a mass - we do not know the nature
of this mass as we stopped at the ultrasound that was done, opted
out of biopsy and we are proceeding on a as needed basis with her
treatment as I intuit according to her needs as she vocalizes them.
Now she is vocalizing very loudly and frequently, part and parcel of
the hyperthyroidism where every process in her body is in over
drive. So, cleaning her liver while her heart is beating rapidly and
she is in pain to boot is a feat and a half. Right now we are
looking at bio-energy to get right in where it needs to with pulse,
light, vibration and the love factor.

3 - I went to the site for -
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-New-BioNase-Nose-Rhinitis-Sinusitis-Therapy-Massage-Hay-fever-Low-Frequency-Pulse-And-Laser-therapy/2029009297.html
and am wondering how it is used for the liver? Also - what is your
experience with shipping expedition from them? 

4- In our long searches to find how to turn this around we've gone
the route of homeopathy, Chinese medicine, prayer, crystal elixers,
Bach remedies, diet, herbs and hands-on healing. She cannot take any
form of medication for the thyroid as they are all mastized by the
liver. Milk Thistle had its merits but in her case, she really does
need a light/vibratory/frequency remedy combined with a master herb
or element. 

Thank you and wishing you all good health!
Joy
  



	
		
			

			
		
		
			
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Re: CS>Good Brand Of Colloidal Silver

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Joe,
Jerry Durand answered this more ably than I ever could. Thanks, Jerry!
Be well,
Léna
On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Joe wrote:

> Hi Lena
> I am new to this, and have only bought CS brand name Sovereign  Silver at 8 
> PPM. I am preparing to make my first batch of CS, but want to know about the 
> best electrical characteristics. Can you tell me the voltage and amperage 
> ratings of the Silver Puppy?
> Thank you in advance!
> Joe Robinson
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
> 
>> I've knocked out some nasty colds and chest things for myself and others 
>> (including a dog) with CS made from my SilverPuppy. It worked quickly, too!
>> Be well,
>> Léna
>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Jerry Durand wrote:
>> 
>>> I use CS made with my Silver Puppy.
>>> 
>>> On 03/11/2016 11:10 AM, pwold wrote:
 Hello,
 I need to know which brand to use for Nebulizing Colloidal Silver that 
 worked for you? 
 Also, ionic or true colloidal silver..which one is better for nebulizing?
 Can anyone comment on this ...that would help.
>>> 
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>>> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
>>> 
>> 

Re: CS>Hyperthyroidism

[Lola Harris]

It is thyroid function or interfering with thyroid meds that raw cruciferous 
veggies can impact.  Cooking
pretty much neutralizes their effect.  There are plenty of links and info on 
the web if one wants toresearch 
further.http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA355093Lola
- Original Message -
From: Olushola Camara 
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Sent: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:59:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: CS>Hyperthyroidism

Don't cruciferous vegetables block the uptake of iodine by the thyroid?

Olushola

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:44 PM, evelyn  wrote:
eat as much cruciferous vegetables as possible, and no seaweed or iodine
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:50 PM, mk <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I need to reverse hyperthyroidism by any means possible - OTHER THAN
 - medication or surgery.



Your input for someone suffering pretty badly right now.


 As for why no medication or surgery - liver/kidney issues.


 This is one of the SOS's. Been doing some frequency healing - and am
 open to anything over the top and cutting edge.


 Joy



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Re: CS>Good Brand Of Colloidal Silver

[Jerry Durand]

My thinking goes like this:

I put the salt in just before using the CS.

Hopefully particles would be coughed up with the phlegm.

Our body is already quite salty, so the silver is going to find salt as
soon as it touches anything anyway.

On 03/12/2016 01:35 AM, Dee wrote:
> I thought adding salt to CS made the particles really big, which in
> turn, could cause argyria.  See 'Blue Man'..Dee
>

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Re: CS>Good Brand Of Colloidal Silver

[Victor Cozzetto]

Someone here will correct me if I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that you
cannot turn blue by adding salt to CS after it is made. (Unless perhaps you
also heat it or let it sit forever?)

Never add salt while making CS. But it can be helpful to add salt to CS for
some applications - at the time of application; i.e. to balance salinity
for nasal spraying or flushing.

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Dee  wrote:

> I thought adding salt to CS made the particles really big, which in turn,
> could cause argyria.  See 'Blue Man'..Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 22:25, Jerry Durand  wrote:
>
> Correct.  There's always some particulate silver in the CS so really it's
> both.  Personally, I put in a tiny bit of salt as I can't really take water
> without the salt.
>
> If I haven't used it in a while, it may start some coughing.  The first
> time I tried it I think I coughed up an old shoe, but I felt LOTS better
> the next day and could now breath again.
>
> On 03/11/2016 02:20 PM, pwold wrote:
>
> Do you nebulized the CS ...so it’s ionic silver you are using with the
> silver puppy right?  They are so many out there.
> I’m looking at SilverEdge right now debating which to buy.
>
>
>
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> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
>
>

Re: CS>Good Brand Of Colloidal Silver

[Dee]

I thought adding salt to CS made the particles really big, which in turn, could 
cause argyria.  See 'Blue Man'..Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 11 Mar 2016, at 22:25, Jerry Durand  wrote:
> 
> Correct.  There's always some particulate silver in the CS so really it's 
> both.  Personally, I put in a tiny bit of salt as I can't really take water 
> without the salt.
> 
> If I haven't used it in a while, it may start some coughing.  The first time 
> I tried it I think I coughed up an old shoe, but I felt LOTS better the next 
> day and could now breath again.
> 
>> On 03/11/2016 02:20 PM, pwold wrote:
>> Do you nebulized the CS ...so it’s ionic silver you are using with the 
>> silver puppy right?  They are so many out there.
>> I’m looking at SilverEdge right now debating which to buy.
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> 

Re: CS>Hyperthyroidism

[Olushola Camara]

Don't cruciferous vegetables block the uptake of iodine by the thyroid?

Olushola

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:44 PM, evelyn  wrote:

> eat as much cruciferous vegetables as possible, and no seaweed or iodine
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:50 PM, mk <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I need to reverse hyperthyroidism by any means possible - OTHER THAN -
>> medication or surgery.
>>
>>
>> Your input for someone suffering pretty badly right now.
>>
>> As for why no medication or surgery - liver/kidney issues.
>>
>> This is one of the SOS's. Been doing some frequency healing - and am open
>> to anything over the top and cutting edge.
>>
>> Joy
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Re: Silver Toxicity Marine Animals

[Victor Cozzetto]

Hi Phil,

I would have to disagree with you a bit on this one; although not directly.
If you put colloidal silver in a fish tank, the fish will die. Not because
the silver is toxic, but because it will kill organisms that are vital to
the health of the fish. The situation is more complicated than I am
explaining, but then so is the way silver helps us too.

I do not view silver as a 'supplement' in the way that Dr. Becker does;
however, that view actually makes the most sense, as silver seems to work
in ways that we don't fully understand - and seems to work with our immune
system. Works great for other animals too, but not for fish, as far as I
know.

Again, I believe it is the silver's impact on the environment that makes it
have a toxic effect for fish. But probably not toxic if you could give it
to them intravenously ;-)

Victor





On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> @Max
>
> There is little evidence that pure colloidal silver is highly toxic to any
> animals, marine or otherwise.
>
> Quite the reverse, in fact, as sickness is highly correlated with mineral
> deficiencies, especially selenium and silver.
>
>