Re: CS>Measuring PPM

[Marshall]

There is no titration.  This is the instrument: 
https://www.hannainst.com/hi96737-silver-portable-photometer.html


Marshall

On 7/8/2020 8:36 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

Titration is not NEARLY accurate enough to measure 15 PPM
 Even an AA Spectrophotometer has great difficulty at low 
concentrations and 3 runs of the same sample averaged is the procedure


ode

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM Marshall > wrote:


I am helping my son in law with his colloidal silver production. 
But I

am running into something I don't understand.  He has been using a
hanna
pure water meter to measure the ionic ppm.  He has been applying a
1.1
correction factor, that is brewing for a 14 uS, to get 15 ppm.

He just ordered and received a hanna silver ion colorimeter and we
have
been testing with it.  When we dissolve the CS silver in nitric acid,
the readings are way off, near zero.  I am going to contact Hanna on
that, I am assuming that either the nitrate ion, or the pH is
messing it up.

But testing some week old CS, I am getting about 6 ppm on the
colorimeter, but 12 uS (or about 13 ppm) on the conductivity
meter.  I
don't know which one is wrong.  Anyone have experience with the
colorimeter?

Thanks,

Marshall


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Re: CS>Measuring PPM

[Marshall]

The unit measures between 0 and 1 ppm. I have to dilute it to get it  in 
that range.  Specifications give an accuracy of 10%, so 60% to 90% error 
is way out of line.


Marshall

On 7/8/2020 8:36 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

Titration is not NEARLY accurate enough to measure 15 PPM
 Even an AA Spectrophotometer has great difficulty at low 
concentrations and 3 runs of the same sample averaged is the procedure


ode

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM Marshall > wrote:


I am helping my son in law with his colloidal silver production. 
But I

am running into something I don't understand.  He has been using a
hanna
pure water meter to measure the ionic ppm.  He has been applying a
1.1
correction factor, that is brewing for a 14 uS, to get 15 ppm.

He just ordered and received a hanna silver ion colorimeter and we
have
been testing with it.  When we dissolve the CS silver in nitric acid,
the readings are way off, near zero.  I am going to contact Hanna on
that, I am assuming that either the nitrate ion, or the pH is
messing it up.

But testing some week old CS, I am getting about 6 ppm on the
colorimeter, but 12 uS (or about 13 ppm) on the conductivity
meter.  I
don't know which one is wrong.  Anyone have experience with the
colorimeter?

Thanks,

Marshall


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Re: CS>Measuring PPM

[Ode Coyote]

Titration is not NEARLY accurate enough to measure 15 PPM
 Even an AA Spectrophotometer has great difficulty at low concentrations
and 3 runs of the same sample averaged is the procedure

ode

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM Marshall  wrote:

> I am helping my son in law with his colloidal silver production.  But I
> am running into something I don't understand.  He has been using a hanna
> pure water meter to measure the ionic ppm.  He has been applying a 1.1
> correction factor, that is brewing for a 14 uS, to get 15 ppm.
>
> He just ordered and received a hanna silver ion colorimeter and we have
> been testing with it.  When we dissolve the CS silver in nitric acid,
> the readings are way off, near zero.  I am going to contact Hanna on
> that, I am assuming that either the nitrate ion, or the pH is messing it
> up.
>
> But testing some week old CS, I am getting about 6 ppm on the
> colorimeter, but 12 uS (or about 13 ppm) on the conductivity meter.  I
> don't know which one is wrong.  Anyone have experience with the
> colorimeter?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: CS>Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19 and are on ventilators

[Deborah Gerard]

 9 in 10 put on a ventilator 
DIE...https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-ventilator-deaths-new-york.html
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 12:11:04 PM EDT, Nenah Sylver 
 wrote:  
 
 
Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
April 24, 2020, USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals...

Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The 
Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed 
hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 and 
get three times as much money if they need a ventilator. On April 19, he 
doubled down on his assertion via video on his Facebook page. Jensen said, 
"Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a 
discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a 
straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the 
hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group 
lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's 
$13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it 
goes up to $39,000." He noted that some states ... specifically New York, list 
all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers for 
Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a 
larger payout. The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or 
add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients. We rate the claim that hospitals get 
paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE. 
Hospitals and doctors do get paid ... three times more if the patients are 
placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting 
from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases. 

 

  
  

Re: CS>Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19 and are on ventilators

[Deborah Gerard]

 Read this about the CDC admitting you test positive it just means you had the 
common 
cold...https://www.intellihub.com/shocker-cdc-admits-covid-19-positive-result-just-means-youve-previously-had-the-common-cold/
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 12:11:04 PM EDT, Nenah Sylver 
 wrote:  
 
 
Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
April 24, 2020, USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals...

Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The 
Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed 
hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 and 
get three times as much money if they need a ventilator. On April 19, he 
doubled down on his assertion via video on his Facebook page. Jensen said, 
"Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a 
discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a 
straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the 
hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group 
lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's 
$13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it 
goes up to $39,000." He noted that some states ... specifically New York, list 
all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers for 
Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a 
larger payout. The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or 
add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients. We rate the claim that hospitals get 
paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE. 
Hospitals and doctors do get paid ... three times more if the patients are 
placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting 
from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases. 

 

  
  

Re: CS>Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19 and are on ventilators

[Deborah Gerard]

 Trump pulled money from WHO and gave to 
GAVI...https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/vaccine-bait-switch-millions-pulled-from-who-trump-gives-billions-gates-founded-gavi/
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 01:18:45 PM EDT, James Osbourne Holmes 
 wrote:  
 
 This situation was planned from before 1994.  See the painting in the Denver 
Airport.  Children of the world; each mask has the flag of their nation.  The 
death rate, even as being fraudulently increased is no greater than a flu 
season. Gates is a mass murderer.  Fauci grins when he announces everyone must 
take vaccines in which he is invested up to his eyballs.  No vaccine has ever 
been proven to work.  No vaccine has ever been proven safe. Bill Gates father, 
an attorney, was head of Planned Parenthood and a Eugenicist; i.e. determined 
to kill or sterilize anyone with genes that he disapproves of.  See the work of 
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. an attorney showing that VaXX dorks normal infants.  He 
is being heavily censored. The once stalwart Americans have been turned into 
cowardly, ignorant sheep. I fear for our future without divine intervention. 
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:11 AM Nenah Sylver  wrote:


Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
April 24, 2020, USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals...

Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The 
Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed 
hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 and 
get three times as much money if they need a ventilator. On April 19, he 
doubled down on his assertion via video on his Facebook page. Jensen said, 
"Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a 
discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a 
straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the 
hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group 
lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's 
$13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it 
goes up to $39,000." He noted that some states ... specifically New York, list 
all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers for 
Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a 
larger payout. The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or 
add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients. We rate the claim that hospitals get 
paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE. 
Hospitals and doctors do get paid ... three times more if the patients are 
placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting 
from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases. 

 

 

  

Re: CS>Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19 and are on ventilators

[sandra george]

Thank you for this detailed report on the facts much appreciated especially 
with all the mis information which is out there!!
 
Love & Hugs
Sandee

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 4:30 AM, bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> This article is very misleading.   The test that is given for COVID-19  is a 
> PCR test that measures for fragments of the RNA virus.  It does not measure 
> antibodies.  That is a completely different type of test used to see if 
> you've been exposed to the virus but it isn't the test to see if you carry 
> the virus.  PCR tests are given by swabbing the nose or mouth, antibody tests 
> are conducted by a blood draw.  Neither test shows if you have a live viral 
> infection.   In fact no one has been able to culture a live virus from a 
> person who has been symptom free for more than 8 days.  The rule of thumb is 
> to wait 14 days without symptoms before going back out.  It is possible to 
> still test positive using PCR as it only looks for viral fragments that you 
> might still shed for weeks or even months afterwards.   It does NOT mean you 
> are infected.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Sent using myEarthLink
> 
> On Tue Jul 07 22:44:31 PDT 2020 Deborah Gerard wrote:
> Read this about the CDC admitting you test positive it just means you had the 
> common cold...
> https://www.intellihub.com/shocker-cdc-admits-covid-19-positive-result-just-means-youve-previously-had-the-common-cold/
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 12:11:04 PM EDT, Nenah Sylver <
> 
> nenah12egro...@cox.net
> 
> > wrote: 
>
> 
> 
> Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
> April 24, 2020, USA Today
> 
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals...
> 
> Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The 
> Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed 
> hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 
> and get three times as much money if they need a ventilator. On April 19, he 
> doubled down on his assertion via video on his Facebook page. Jensen said, 
> "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a 
> discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a 
> straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the 
> hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group 
> lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's 
> $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it 
> goes up to $39,000." He noted that some states ... specifically New York, 
> list all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers 
> for Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a 
> larger payout. The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or 
> add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients. We rate the claim that hospitals get 
> paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE. 
> Hospitals and doctors do get paid ... three times more if the patients are 
> placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business 
> resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases.
> 
>  
> 
>  

Re: Re: CS>Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19 and are on ventilators

[bbanever]

This article is very misleading. The test that is given for COVID-19 is a PCR 
test that measures for fragments of the RNA virus. It does not measure 
antibodies. That is a completely different type of test used to see if you've 
been exposed to the virus but it isn't the test to see if you carry the virus. 
PCR tests are given by swabbing the nose or mouth, antibody tests are conducted 
by a blood draw. Neither test shows if you have a live viral infection. In fact 
no one has been able to culture a live virus from a person who has been symptom 
free for more than 8 days. The rule of thumb is to wait 14 days without 
symptoms before going back out. It is possible to still test positive using PCR 
as it only looks for viral fragments that you might still shed for weeks or 
even months afterwards. It does NOT mean you are infected. Hope this helps.

Sent using myEarthLink

On Tue Jul 07 22:44:31 PDT 2020 Deborah Gerard wrote:
Read this about the CDC admitting you test positive it just means you had the 
common cold...

https://www.intellihub.com/shocker-cdc-admits-covid-19-positive-result-just-means-youve-previously-had-the-common-cold/

On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 12:11:04 PM EDT, Nenah Sylver <

nenah12egro...@cox.net (mailto:nenah12egro...@cox.net)

> wrote:

Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
April 24, 2020, USA Today

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals...

Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The 
Ingraham Angle (https://www.foxnews.com/shows/ingraham-angle)" host Laura 
Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed hospitals get paid more if Medicare 
patients are listed as having COVID-19 and get three times as much money if 
they need a ventilator. On April 19, he doubled down on his assertion via video 
on his Facebook page. Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to 
see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? 
Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is 
admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the 
diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 
pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on 
a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000." He noted that some states ... 
specifically New York, list all presumed cases, which is allowed under 
guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April 
and which will result in a larger payout. The coronavirus relief legislation 
created a 20% premium 
(https://www.aha.org/advisory/2020-04-16-coronavirus-update-cms-releases-guidance-implementing-cares-act-provisions),
 or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients. We rate the claim that hospitals 
get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE. 
Hospitals and doctors do get paid ... three times more if the patients are 
placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting 
from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases.