CS>Germany 56,000 Local Doctors in VAX Campaign -- 23,000 have quit, refuse to VAX patients

2021-08-21 Thread Douglas Haack 
German:
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article233146801/Impfkampagne-Mehr-als-23-000-Aerzte-sind-ausgestiegen.html
English:More Than 23,000 German Doctors Have Quit the Genocide Campaign - Truth 
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Re: CS>CS and vit C

2021-08-21 Thread Rick 
It often makes me wonder how any supplements we swallow make it through our
stomach to be used by our bodies.

And I often wonder too...how did that bug find my plant if it wasn't here
with the plant three months ago? Assuming that is, that it wasn't already
living in the soil or under a leaf.


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:43 PM Max  wrote:

> Rick
>
> Yes, moderation is key.  But theres more, if we want to pursue it.  Mixing
> CS with herbs may increase anti microbe or anti cancer effects while
> reducing toxicity to healthy, human cells.  An in depth scientific approach
> would look at surface charge, docking mechanisms, particle size, stability
> and so on. Heres one question;  If you cap CS with an herb, or sugar or
> something,  is it then stable enough to survive the stomach, circumventing
> the baking soda method of neutralizing stomach acid?
>
> Organisms, including humans change the silver and do their own capping,
> dissolution and elimination.   Small quantities of silver exist in food
> plants.  It would be interesting to see how nature is delivering and using
> silver in the grand and exquisite ecosystem of the living earth.
>
> thanks
>
> Max
> On 8/21/2021 8:54 AM, Rick wrote:
>
> Moderation is key
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:49 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> A Chinese study indicates that the microbe killing effect of CS is
>> destroyed with vit C, suggesting free radicals, or ROS is part of the
>> microbe killing mechanism
>>
>> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21691401.2019.1648278
>>
>> Iron zinc and copper also act as free radical generating materials. How
>> much copper do you get from copper chlorophyllins?   Interestingly, vit C
>> causes free radical generation in high doses by way of hydrogen peroxide.
>> The trick is get the cytotoxic effect to happen on invaders and cancer
>> cells and not healthy cells. CS accumulates in the liver and spleen.
>> Important organs.
>>
>> Wormwood is a studied herb for treatment of covid-19.   Somehow it
>> activates iron to cause free radicals which is at least part of the
>> antimicrobe effect, as shown in studies with malaria
>>
>> See the dichotomy?  Optimizing health ioften involves reducing free
>> radicals, increasing glutathione etc, yet this could reduce the
>> antimicrobial effect of herbs and CS
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:
>>>
 silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161


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Re: CS>CS and vit C

2021-08-21 Thread Max 

Rick

Yes, moderation is key.  But theres more, if we want to pursue it.  
Mixing CS with herbs may increase anti microbe or anti cancer effects 
while reducing toxicity to healthy, human cells.  An in depth scientific 
approach would look at surface charge, docking mechanisms, particle 
size, stability and so on. Heres one question;  If you cap CS with 
an herb, or sugar or something,  is it then stable enough to survive the 
stomach, circumventing the baking soda method of neutralizing stomach acid?


Organisms, including humans change the silver and do their own capping, 
dissolution and elimination.   Small quantities of silver exist in food 
plants.  It would be interesting to see how nature is delivering and 
using silver in the grand and exquisite ecosystem of the living earth.


thanks

Max

On 8/21/2021 8:54 AM, Rick wrote:

Moderation is key


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:49 PM Max > wrote:


A Chinese study indicates that the microbe killing effect of CS is
destroyed with vit C, suggesting free radicals, or ROS is part of
the microbe killing mechanism

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21691401.2019.1648278


Iron zinc and copper also act as free radical generating
materials. How much copper do you get from copper
chlorophyllins?   Interestingly, vit C causes free radical
generation in high doses by way of hydrogen peroxide. The trick is
get the cytotoxic effect to happen on invaders and cancer cells
and not healthy cells. CS accumulates in the liver and
spleen.  Important organs.

Wormwood is a studied herb for treatment of covid-19. Somehow it
activates iron to cause free radicals which is at least part of
the antimicrobe effect, as shown in studies with malaria

See the dichotomy?  Optimizing health ioften involves reducing
free radicals, increasing glutathione etc, yet this could reduce
the antimicrobial effect of herbs and CS

Max



On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max mailto:mperrau...@cox.net>> wrote:

silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161




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Re: CS>CS and vit C

2021-08-21 Thread Rick 
Moderation is key


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:49 PM Max  wrote:

> A Chinese study indicates that the microbe killing effect of CS is
> destroyed with vit C, suggesting free radicals, or ROS is part of the
> microbe killing mechanism
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21691401.2019.1648278
>
> Iron zinc and copper also act as free radical generating materials. How
> much copper do you get from copper chlorophyllins?   Interestingly, vit C
> causes free radical generation in high doses by way of hydrogen peroxide.
> The trick is get the cytotoxic effect to happen on invaders and cancer
> cells and not healthy cells. CS accumulates in the liver and spleen.
> Important organs.
>
> Wormwood is a studied herb for treatment of covid-19.   Somehow it
> activates iron to cause free radicals which is at least part of the
> antimicrobe effect, as shown in studies with malaria
>
> See the dichotomy?  Optimizing health ioften involves reducing free
> radicals, increasing glutathione etc, yet this could reduce the
> antimicrobial effect of herbs and CS
>
> Max
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:
>>
>>> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161
>>>
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Re: CS>CS toxicity, inhalation

2021-08-21 Thread Rick 
So what this sounds like to me is Too Much Of A Good Thing is bad.
Therefore, Everything In Moderation tends to be the way to go. With some
exceptions of course in the right context.


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 8:56 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> It's not toxic to fish...it's toxic to a fish environment that depends on
> microbes and algaes to digest fish poop and urine.
> You can put a sick fish in a  separate tank with CS in it for a while,
> transfer the fish to a pure water tank for a few days, then back into the
> regular tank...but do not put CS in the regular tank...it'll "kill the
> TANK" and then the TANK will kill the fish.
> ode
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:00 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Rick
>>
>> Good anecdotal information, glad it worked for you.   I have an
>> inexpensive ultrasonic nebulizer.  I will nebulize silver after mixing with
>> an herb for the beneficial capping effect. I have used silver in a room
>> humidifier in the past.
>>
>> I wouldnt say silver is completely safe.   My idea is to take as needed,
>> but not chronically.   I think it can get everywhere in your body,
>> including the nervous system.   This could be a bummer.
>>
>> Its not massively toxic like some heavy metals.  Its listed as a noble or
>> semi metal...sure that helps.  The ability to de differentiate cells is
>> fascinating, potentially super therapeutic, and also scary.  It is
>> extremely toxic to aquatic organisms, including fish.  I kind of think of
>> myself as an aquatic organism
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> max
>> On 8/20/2021 3:15 PM, Rick wrote:
>>
>> Interesting article but does not cover inhalation via vaporizer which I
>> have done quite a bit of, especially when I felt like something was coming
>> on and most especially when I was in healthcare of late and they were Covid
>> testing with the PCR every two weeks. I heavily vaporized and inhaled the
>> CS, also dropping it into my eyes.
>>
>> Various labs as I understood were used throughout the time I was tested
>> every 2 weeks over many months until late last year. I never had a positive
>> or false positive covid test and I attribute that to vaporizing and
>> inhaling it directly into my lungs three times to as many as five times per
>> day prior to the test days and then would stop for a week after the test
>> and then resume the following week. Every day again up until testing.
>>
>> Never experienced any ill effects.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:
>>
>>> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>CS toxicity, inhalation

2021-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote 
It's not toxic to fish...it's toxic to a fish environment that depends on
microbes and algaes to digest fish poop and urine.
You can put a sick fish in a  separate tank with CS in it for a while,
transfer the fish to a pure water tank for a few days, then back into the
regular tank...but do not put CS in the regular tank...it'll "kill the
TANK" and then the TANK will kill the fish.
ode

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:00 PM Max  wrote:

> Rick
>
> Good anecdotal information, glad it worked for you.   I have an
> inexpensive ultrasonic nebulizer.  I will nebulize silver after mixing with
> an herb for the beneficial capping effect. I have used silver in a room
> humidifier in the past.
>
> I wouldnt say silver is completely safe.   My idea is to take as needed,
> but not chronically.   I think it can get everywhere in your body,
> including the nervous system.   This could be a bummer.
>
> Its not massively toxic like some heavy metals.  Its listed as a noble or
> semi metal...sure that helps.  The ability to de differentiate cells is
> fascinating, potentially super therapeutic, and also scary.  It is
> extremely toxic to aquatic organisms, including fish.  I kind of think of
> myself as an aquatic organism
>
>
> thanks
>
> max
> On 8/20/2021 3:15 PM, Rick wrote:
>
> Interesting article but does not cover inhalation via vaporizer which I
> have done quite a bit of, especially when I felt like something was coming
> on and most especially when I was in healthcare of late and they were Covid
> testing with the PCR every two weeks. I heavily vaporized and inhaled the
> CS, also dropping it into my eyes.
>
> Various labs as I understood were used throughout the time I was tested
> every 2 weeks over many months until late last year. I never had a positive
> or false positive covid test and I attribute that to vaporizing and
> inhaling it directly into my lungs three times to as many as five times per
> day prior to the test days and then would stop for a week after the test
> and then resume the following week. Every day again up until testing.
>
> Never experienced any ill effects.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161
>>
>>
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Re: CS>CS toxicity, inhalation

2021-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote 
 Sounds like the second hand smoke studies where subjects were placed in
unventilated rooms in concentrations that a chain smoker would never
tolerate... or the LSD studies that proved it causes chromosome
breakage...using enough LSD on a mosquito to turn an elephant purple and
pink.



On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:

> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
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