RE: CS ions and particles

2005-11-26 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
 M. G. Devour wrote:

 In other words, folks, getting from isolated particles of silver
 suspended in water to particles dried out on a surface is *NOT* a
 trivial exercise. There's little reason to believe there's any
 relationship between TEM photos and what's in the water.

Right on Mike.

TEM images are virtually worthless for showing colloidal particles in ionic
solutions. Here is the technical explanation why that is so:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html

TEM images are pervasive on internet ads because those using them are either
trying to deceive the non-technical public or they themselves don't
understand what the images are showing.

The proper way to determine the particle size distribution of colloidal
particles is to use an instrument that is specifically designed for that
purpose. The method is called 'dynamic light scattering'. One of the
foremost companies in the world that manufactures these instruments is
Malvern Instruments in the U.K. 

Here is a brochure on their latest instrument:
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/fact_pages/Nano-ZS-brochure.pdf

This is the instrument we use at the Colloidal Science Lab. Here our lab
setup: 
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/fact_pages/factMalvern-nano.htm

Here is a sample of a particle size distribution plot made using the
instrument:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr09/MesoSilverSizeReport.pdf

There are particle size distribution plots available for about many silver
colloid products listed in the comparison table shown here:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#CompTable

Just click on the product name to bring up the lab analysis report and then
click on 'Complete Size Report' at the lower right of the lab report page.


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RE: CSions and particles

2005-11-26 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
Featherwon wrote:

  They state on their bottle that the particle size is .0008, and
 that it is made with ultra pure water. I thought colloidal silver was
 made with distilled water...is that the same thing as ultra pure? 

Ultra pure water is deionized water which and is more pure than distilled
water.

The 0.0008 um size claim for Sovereign is exaggerated.

Here is the lab analysis page and particle size plot for Sovereign Silver:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr03/cpr_03.html

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr03/Sovereign-HPPS.pdf

The mean peak for the smallest particles are 8.7 nm, more than 10 times
larger than claimed.


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RE: CS ions and particles

2005-11-26 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
Langsley wrote:

 I'm currently trying to Google measuring ions. So far I haven't 
 found much other than measuring concentration.

Concentration is all that is measurable for silver ions. 

A silver ion (Ag+) has an atomic radium of 0.129 nm or 129 pm.

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RE: CSions and particles

2005-11-26 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
Featherwon wrote:

 Before i purchased the SilverGen, i was using Sovereign Silver, 
 but it became too expensive. A small amount was effective, and 
 im wondering what dossage of the silvergen will equal Sovereign Silver?

Provided that you get you concentration to 10 ppm, lab analysis of the
physical properties indicates there should be no distinguishable difference
between what you make with a home generator and Sovereign Silver. Both are
ionic silver with a small percentage of silver nanoparticles present. 

The TEM images do not contain a valid representation of colloidal particles
present.


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RE: CSWaterOz

2005-11-09 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
WaterOZ ionic silver is silver citrate.

Frank Key


http://www.wateroz.com/minerals/Silver.htm

The dont seem to mention what is in it here.




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CSThe Health Freedom Protection Act - to stop FDA/FTC censorship

2005-11-03 Thread Info - Silver Colloids

The Health Freedom Protection Act

Stop FDA Censorship

Support the Health Freedom Protection Act
  
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is censoring health information.  The
pharmaceutical companies are the winners.  You and your family are the
losers.

The FDA is censoring health information.  For example, the FDA prohibited
the claim that folic acid reduces the risk of neural tube defects for four
years while the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended every
woman of childbearing age take that supplement.  Thus, the FDA contributed
to an estimated 10,000 preventable neural tube defects.

An estimated 300,000 Americans die each year from sudden-death heart
attacks.  That number, however, could be reduced by 40% if people were
allowed to know that fish oil treats heart arrhythmias and heart thrombosis.
An estimated 20 million Americans suffer pain and debilitation from
osteoarthritis.  That number, however, could be reduced substantially if
people were allowed to know that glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate treat
osteoarthritis.  An estimated 50% of males over the age of 50 suffer from a
benign enlarged prostate.  That number, however, could be reduced if men
were allowed to know that saw palmetto extract treats benign prostatic
hyperplasia.  The evidence for these dietary ingredients claims is
overwhelming -- yet the FDA bans them outright!

In 1994, the U.S. Congress ordered the FDA to let the public have access to
scientific articles and publications on the role of nutrients in disease by
passing the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA).  In
addition, four federal court orders have condemed the FDA's practice of
censorship as a violation of the First Amendment.  Yet, censorship by the
FDA goes on!!

The Health Freedom Protection Act would prevent the FDA from censoring
Americans' right to know about truthful, health-enhancing benefits of foods
and dietary ingredients.

Congressmen Ron Paul and Walter Jones will introduce the Health Freedom
Protection Act on Wednesday, November 9th.  Please urge your U.S.
representative to become an original cosponsor of this legislation.  Go to
the link below to send your message.


http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=8194951type=CO



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CSHealth Freedom Protection Act - more info

2005-11-03 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
The Health Freedom Protection Act

The Food and Drug Administration is in the business of censoring
health information.  You may recall how the FDA prohibited the claim that
folic acid reduces the risk of neural tube defects for four years while the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended to every woman of
childbearing age taking that supplement to reduce neural tube defects
(NTDs).  FDA thereby contributed to an estimated 10,000 preventable NTDs.
FDA continues this same kind of censorship despite 4 court orders condemning
the practice as a violation of the First Amendment.  

There is a wealth of scientific evidence that glucosamine and
chondroitin sulfate are effective in the treatment of osteoarthritis; that
omega-3 fatty acids may reduce the risk of sudden death heart attack; and
that calcium may reduce the risk of bone fractures.  Yet, the FDA prohibits
each of those claims.  

In the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act this Congress
compelled FDA to let the public have access to scientific articles and
publications on the role of nutrients in disease.  FDA has defeated that
purpose of DSHEA by deeming every article of that kind evidence of a
company's intent to sell a drug.  Rather than give the public access to
health information, FDA has ensured that the public is deprived of it.

Indeed, FDA prohibits every claim that a nutrient treats a
disease whether true or not.  The Health Freedom Protection Act would end
that practice of censorship.  It would codify the First Amendment standard
adopted by the federal Courts but that FDA refuses to apply.   It would open
the marketplace to all manner of truthful health information.  It would make
the consumer King and the government the consumer's servant, as it should
be.

The Health Freedom Protection Act not only prevents FDA from
denying the public access to health information, it arrests actions by the
FTC that are destroying businesses all across the United States.

Under the First Amendment, the government must prove an
advertising statement false before it may act against that statement.  Under
FTC's regime, no company can advertise a health benefit for a product unless
the company has proof to a near certain degree that the statement is true.
Ladies and gentlemen virtually nothing in science is provable to a near
certain degree.  Science is evolutionary and depends on probabilities.  To
prevent FTC from blocking innovation and evolution in the marketplace, we
have got to limit its role to acting against speech it can prove is false
and not prohibiting all speech unless the speaker can prove it true to a
near certain degree.  This legislation will do that.  It will return the
burden of proof to the place the First Amendment demands: against action by
the federal government unless the government possesses proof of falsity.  It
also makes FTC warn parties that their advertising is false rather than drag
them into long costly and economically destructive investigations and
hearings.  We have got to protect the livelihood of innocent American
workers.  Its high time the FTC came to respect their right to earn a
living, and all of our rights to free speech.  This bill achieves that
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RE: CSSilver Hydrosol

2005-10-29 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
Robert Berger wrote:

Good info thanks. here is a place that makes silver that is even smaller 
which is .65 nm and is 10 dollars cheaper for the 8 ounce size. the
argentyn 
23 below is .8 nm

The particle size claim for Argentyn 23 is based on TEM imgages of an ionic
solution which produces false data. See:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html

The size of the particles in Argentyn 23 is 8 nm as determined by dynamic
light scattering.
See the particle size distribution plot here:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr36/Argentyn23-Nano-size.pdf 


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RE: CSsilver ions vs. particles

2005-10-27 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
FRANK CUNS-RIAL wrote:


 ... because all minerlas are transported into the cells by
ionicelectrical transfer. 

True for minerals in ionic form, not true for colloidal nanoparticles of
non-noble metals.

Nanoparticles of silver, gold, platinum, palladium, iridium, and other noble
metals are absorbed through the lining of the small intestines directly into
the bloodstream and remain as nanoparticles until they are eliminated from
the body.


 In the case of ionic silver (silver combined with some anion such as
chloride, sulphate, nitrate, etc) the silver ion is already formed while the
collidal has to undergo that transformation. 

There is no transformation of noble metal nanoparticles such as silver.

For information on a related topic, see Bioavailability of Colloidal Silver:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/bioavailability.html



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RE: CSionic-colloidal

2005-10-25 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
Terry Chamberlin wrote:

All that you are saying is that charged silver particles smaller than a
certain size (what you are designating *ionic*) interact with chloride in a
certain way, and charged or non-charged particles bigger than a certain size
(what you are calling
*colloidal*) do not.

That is not a true statement. Ionic silver consists of individual ions not
silver particles smaller than a certain size. 

Chamberlin's statement fail to make a distinction between ionic charge and
particle charge. 

Ionic charge is defined as
A positive or negative electric charge possessed by an ion as a result of
the gain or loss of one or more orbital electrons . Silver ions always
possess a positive ionic charge due the loss of a single electron. Ionic
charge is responsible for the  electrostatic repulsion that causes ions to
remain dispersed in a liquid.

Particle charge is defined as:
A charge imparted to the particle due to adsorption of ions from the
surrounding solution . The charge is produced at the slipping plane
surrounding the particle and is called the zeta potential . Particle
behavior in an electric field is determined by its zeta potential. 

'interact with chloride' is not the same as 'forms a chemical bond'. 

Silver particles do not form chemical bonds with chloride ions, ONLY silver
ions form chemical bonds with chloride ions(AgCl).

 The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to
the fact that silver ions combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride
and silver particles do not.

Also see the Summary of Properties: 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Tables/Summary_of_Properties.PDF

What is written by Terry Chamberlin attempts to blur the distinction between
ions and particles. This practice is described on the webpage dealing with
bogus scientific claims:  
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/bogus-silver.html

The primary thrust of bogus scientific claims made for ionic silver
products generally involve statements to the effect that silver ions are the
same as silver particles, or that ions are particles. Because the products
being promoted consist mainly of ionic silver, not silver particles, the
promoters try to blur the distinction between these two entirely different
entities. Silver particles have the property of particle surface area and
ions do not since they are dissolved silver. Colloid effectiveness is
determined by particle surface area making it the single most important
property of a silver colloid. For more on this issue, see Particle Surface
Area and Effectiveness. Ionic silver products have very low values of
particle surface area. 


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RE: CSsilver ions vs. particles

2005-10-24 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
Regarding Terry Chamberlin's comments on ions:

To put all the definitions into practical perspective requires only that one
understand the following sentence.

The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the
fact that silver ions combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride and
silver particles do not.



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CSSilver Nanoparticles Kill HIV Virus, study shows.

2005-10-20 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=7264

Frank Key



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RE: CSStudy Shows Silver Nanoparticles Attach to HIV-1 virus

2005-10-17 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
Ole Bob wrote:
 
Stuff, goto www.natural-immunogenics.com and look at the study between
ionic 
silver and silver colloid. The colloids ar useless in an invitro study.

The following link contains a professional review of the
Natural-Immunogenics which states as follows:

The experiment was not designed according to nationally standardized
methods used to test product efficacy. 
The test parameters were designed outside of actual usage parameters and
according to non-standardized methods. 
Used parameters that were seemingly designed to mislead. 
Conclusions drawn from this experiment that ionic silver is less inhibited
than colloidal by HCl at low concentrations for 8-minute exposure are
meaningless with regard to product efficacy. 

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/bad-studiy.html


Furthermore, when a comparative test between ionic and colloidal silver is
conducted that exposes the silver products to the 3600 ppm chloride
envirnoment found in stomach acid the ionic silver is almost completely
ineffective. Here is a link to that study:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/misc/Meso_vs_Sovereign-E-coli.pdf


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RE: CSDamaging silver

2005-08-22 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
Terry Chamberlain wrote:

 ... When high voltage is used to make it, neither sunlight nor freezing
have any affect on it.

Freezing will not damage ionic silver. If all the liquid is frozen
completely solid the  silver particles present in colloidal form will settle
out when the liquid is thawed. Freezing will break (damage) a metal
colloid.

If a colloid freezes but a small portion remains unfrozen, then the
particles will be forced into the liquid portion and the particles will
re-disperse into colloidal form when the ice is thawed.


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RE: CSDamaging silver

2005-08-22 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
Frank Cuns-Rial wrote:


 ...Silver will react readily only with strong compounds such as oxygen
(tarnish)...

Silver oxide is not tarnish. When silver tarnishes, it combines with sulfur
and forms silver sulfide. Silver sulfide is black. 


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CSSilver particles in the lungs

2005-08-16 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
Nanometer size silver particles introduced into the lungs will be absorbed
into the blood stream. Particles that are to large to be absorbed will be
ionized (converted into ionic form) which will then be absorbed.
 
The lungs have macrophages whose purpose is to clear particles that may
become caught in the lung tissue. The macrophages produce H2O2 (hydrogen
peroxide) which dissolves silver particles too large to be absorbed
directly. Once dissolved (converted to ionic form) the silver is then
absorbed.
 
See: http://nic.sav.sk/logos/books/scientific/node23.html
 
We know of thousands of users of nanoparticle colloidal silver who have
successfully used nebulized silver in the lungs for bacterial, fungal and
viral infections.
 
 
Frank Key
www.Silver-Colloids.com
 
 


CSProduct Lab Analysis

2005-08-10 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
For those who are interested to know what's in the bottle, product lab
analysis have been added for:

Argentyn 23:   http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr36/cpr_36.html

Silver Biotics: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr37/cpr_37.html 

See how these product compare to others on the market here:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#CompTable



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RE: CSArgentyn 23. Is it a load of CS?

2005-07-27 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
David wrote:


 Has anyone else downloaded and read the pdf for Argentyn 23; Natural
immunogenics
 'professional' formulation? It's an interesting but sometimes confusing
read.  
 I can't work  out whether they are saying its ionic or particles. 
 (Maybe they don't want me to understand)

 David

 http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php

Argentyn is ionic silver. For years Natural Immunogenics has produced
advertising copy that tries to convince the buyer that their ionic silver
product is colloidal silver. Like Sovereign Silver (SS), this just ionic
silver. See the lab analysis for SS here:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr03/cpr_03.html

Natural Immunogenics is the company that pioneered the use of TEM images to
promote ionic silver. For details on why this is nonsense, see:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html


Frank Key
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CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2005 #421

2005-07-06 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 A, perfecto!

Please send the artwork to Overnight Labels with a copy to me.

Nice work John!

Frank Key

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RE: CSStudy Shows the Effects of HCL (Stomach Acid) on Colloidal and Ionic Silver

2005-06-23 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
Marshall wrote:

 Not really.  The amount of HCL added was far below the stomach content.

The best available literature indicates that stomach acid is 3600 ppm, which
was used.

Why do think it is far below the stomach content?

What concentration of HCL would you think is appropriate, and based on what
info?



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CSStudy Shows the Effects of HCL (Stomach Acid) on Colloidal and Ionic Silver

2005-06-22 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
http://www.silver-colloids.com/misc/Meso_vs_Sovereign-E-coli.pdf



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CSCODEX News

2005-06-21 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest60.htm?  



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CSWhich Plastics Are Safe?

2005-04-21 Thread Info - Silver Colloids

This article explains which plastics leach chemicals into water or other
liquids.



http://www.rense.com/general64/plasti.htm



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