Re: CS>Agents which break up biofilms

[Sandee George]

Hi There Evan, thanks for this one, very interesting especially when added to 
what they are researching now on microbiome which I went to a workshop on the 
other day, fascinating what they are finding out and what the possible future 
will be !
Peace, love and hugs
Sandee
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On 21 Feb 2016, at 11:49 pm, Evan Jones  wrote:

This information could be useful to anybody suffering an infection
that comes from an entrenched biofilm. Commons ones include
bronchitis, tooth decay, prostate problems, urinary tract infections.

Biofilms exist everywhere in our bodies and in our environment. e.g.
Water containers such as pipes and tanks are natural hosts for slimy
biofilms; typically made from a fermenting gram negative bacteria. I
should try using various substances  lying around the house to see
what controls the slimy biofilm in my water storage dispensor e.g.
xylitol, d ribose, sea salt, iodine, chlorine, NAC, soap, sodium
bicarb, aspirin. Biofilms are a growing problem in engine fuel
systems, due to the recent trend of adding 6 - 10% biofuels to
gasoline and diesel fuels.

XYLITOL VS SUGAR.
Because  xylitol looks and tastes like plain white sugar , somebody
asked why not simply  use sugar to control biofilms?  The reason is
that while most sugars contain 6 carbon molecules, xylitol contains
only 5, a characteristic which affect the ability of microbes to form
biofilms. D mannose and D ribose also have 5 OH chains . D mannose is
the sugar in cranberries which is useful in breaking up biofilms in
urinary tracts.

CS to break up biofilms.
I wrote earlier that mixing CS with xylitol may not be a good idea ,
as the CS may attack the strep mutans too soon. (This is said to be
the case of mixing salt and xylitol to control tooth decay - we want
to the strep mutans to eat the xylitol, not eweaken it.)

Upon further reading, it seems that CS (Colloidal Silver) also
controls infections by breaking up biofilms.
e.g.:
"Silver is an important antimicrobial agent used as a coating to
reduce bacterial adhesion to biomaterials and prevent infections.
Silver ions increase bacterial membrane permeability, induce
de-energization of cells, leakage of cellular content, and disruption
DNA replication. [Marambio-Jones & Hoek, 2010] Many studies support an
anti-biofilm component of silver. However, a recent study suggests
that silver may indirectly promote bacterial adhesion [Carvalho et
al., 2013]"
http://thescienceofnutrition.me/2015/03/13/natural-anti-biofilm-agents/

I don't know whether mixing CS with xylitol is a good idea or not.

This article, BTW, contains a useful list of natural biofilm agents,
which includes :
- Proteolytic enzymes like serrapeptase
- Bacteriophages (which are viruses that produce a number of enzymes)
- Quorum-Sensing Inhibitors
- Ajoene, found in crushed garlic, inhibits production of rhamnolipid,
which shields biofilms from white blood cells
- Resveratrol demonstrates antimicrobial properties on periodontal pathogens
- Cranberry keeps bacteria from sticking to surfaces
- Chlorogenic acids (CGA) come largely from coffee
- Boswellic acids, the pentacyclic triterpenes, produced in plants
belonging to the genus Boswellia, disrupt preexisting biofilms.
- Aspirin and many other naturally-occurring salicylates can inhibit
the macromolecules that make up the biofilm matrix
- Formic, capric, and lauric acids (e.g. coconut oil) are broadly
inhibitory for bacteria. Undecylenic acid is another medium chain
fatty acid known for its anti-biofilm ability, including the
disruption of troubling biofilms of Candida albicans
- Iron promotes EPS production and biofilm formation in many
pathogenic, biofilm-producing bacteria. By tying up iron, lactoferrin
could conceivably show anti-biofilm activity.
- Bismuth appears to work largely by inhibiting bacterial EPS
[Domenico et al., 1991, 1992] via competitive interference with iron
metabolism.
- N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), at low milligram levels, was found to
decrease biofilm formation by a variety of bacteria
- sodium bicarbonate has an antibiofilm activity


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Re: CS>Agents which break up biofilms

[Dee]

Thank you very much for this Evan, I was the one who asked about ordinary sugar 
being used, and this is the answer - and more.  Many thanks.dee 

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> On 22 Feb 2016, at 03:49, Evan Jones  wrote:
> 
> This information could be useful to anybody suffering an infection
> that comes from an entrenched biofilm. Commons ones include
> bronchitis, tooth decay, prostate problems, urinary tract infections.
> 
> Biofilms exist everywhere in our bodies and in our environment. e.g.
> Water containers such as pipes and tanks are natural hosts for slimy
> biofilms; typically made from a fermenting gram negative bacteria. I
> should try using various substances  lying around the house to see
> what controls the slimy biofilm in my water storage dispensor e.g.
> xylitol, d ribose, sea salt, iodine, chlorine, NAC, soap, sodium
> bicarb, aspirin. Biofilms are a growing problem in engine fuel
> systems, due to the recent trend of adding 6 - 10% biofuels to
> gasoline and diesel fuels.
> 
> XYLITOL VS SUGAR.
> Because  xylitol looks and tastes like plain white sugar , somebody
> asked why not simply  use sugar to control biofilms?  The reason is
> that while most sugars contain 6 carbon molecules, xylitol contains
> only 5, a characteristic which affect the ability of microbes to form
> biofilms. D mannose and D ribose also have 5 OH chains . D mannose is
> the sugar in cranberries which is useful in breaking up biofilms in
> urinary tracts.
> 
> CS to break up biofilms.
> I wrote earlier that mixing CS with xylitol may not be a good idea ,
> as the CS may attack the strep mutans too soon. (This is said to be
> the case of mixing salt and xylitol to control tooth decay - we want
> to the strep mutans to eat the xylitol, not eweaken it.)
> 
> Upon further reading, it seems that CS (Colloidal Silver) also
> controls infections by breaking up biofilms.
> e.g.:
> "Silver is an important antimicrobial agent used as a coating to
> reduce bacterial adhesion to biomaterials and prevent infections.
> Silver ions increase bacterial membrane permeability, induce
> de-energization of cells, leakage of cellular content, and disruption
> DNA replication. [Marambio-Jones & Hoek, 2010] Many studies support an
> anti-biofilm component of silver. However, a recent study suggests
> that silver may indirectly promote bacterial adhesion [Carvalho et
> al., 2013]"
> http://thescienceofnutrition.me/2015/03/13/natural-anti-biofilm-agents/
> 
> I don't know whether mixing CS with xylitol is a good idea or not.
> 
> This article, BTW, contains a useful list of natural biofilm agents,
> which includes :
> - Proteolytic enzymes like serrapeptase
> - Bacteriophages (which are viruses that produce a number of enzymes)
> - Quorum-Sensing Inhibitors
> - Ajoene, found in crushed garlic, inhibits production of rhamnolipid,
> which shields biofilms from white blood cells
> - Resveratrol demonstrates antimicrobial properties on periodontal pathogens
> - Cranberry keeps bacteria from sticking to surfaces
> - Chlorogenic acids (CGA) come largely from coffee
> - Boswellic acids, the pentacyclic triterpenes, produced in plants
> belonging to the genus Boswellia, disrupt preexisting biofilms.
> - Aspirin and many other naturally-occurring salicylates can inhibit
> the macromolecules that make up the biofilm matrix
> - Formic, capric, and lauric acids (e.g. coconut oil) are broadly
> inhibitory for bacteria. Undecylenic acid is another medium chain
> fatty acid known for its anti-biofilm ability, including the
> disruption of troubling biofilms of Candida albicans
> - Iron promotes EPS production and biofilm formation in many
> pathogenic, biofilm-producing bacteria. By tying up iron, lactoferrin
> could conceivably show anti-biofilm activity.
> - Bismuth appears to work largely by inhibiting bacterial EPS
> [Domenico et al., 1991, 1992] via competitive interference with iron
> metabolism.
> - N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), at low milligram levels, was found to
> decrease biofilm formation by a variety of bacteria
> - sodium bicarbonate has an antibiofilm activity
> 
> 
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CS>Agents which break up biofilms

[Evan Jones]

This information could be useful to anybody suffering an infection
that comes from an entrenched biofilm. Commons ones include
bronchitis, tooth decay, prostate problems, urinary tract infections.

Biofilms exist everywhere in our bodies and in our environment. e.g.
Water containers such as pipes and tanks are natural hosts for slimy
biofilms; typically made from a fermenting gram negative bacteria. I
should try using various substances  lying around the house to see
what controls the slimy biofilm in my water storage dispensor e.g.
xylitol, d ribose, sea salt, iodine, chlorine, NAC, soap, sodium
bicarb, aspirin. Biofilms are a growing problem in engine fuel
systems, due to the recent trend of adding 6 - 10% biofuels to
gasoline and diesel fuels.

XYLITOL VS SUGAR.
Because  xylitol looks and tastes like plain white sugar , somebody
asked why not simply  use sugar to control biofilms?  The reason is
that while most sugars contain 6 carbon molecules, xylitol contains
only 5, a characteristic which affect the ability of microbes to form
biofilms. D mannose and D ribose also have 5 OH chains . D mannose is
the sugar in cranberries which is useful in breaking up biofilms in
urinary tracts.

CS to break up biofilms.
I wrote earlier that mixing CS with xylitol may not be a good idea ,
as the CS may attack the strep mutans too soon. (This is said to be
the case of mixing salt and xylitol to control tooth decay - we want
to the strep mutans to eat the xylitol, not eweaken it.)

Upon further reading, it seems that CS (Colloidal Silver) also
controls infections by breaking up biofilms.
e.g.:
"Silver is an important antimicrobial agent used as a coating to
reduce bacterial adhesion to biomaterials and prevent infections.
Silver ions increase bacterial membrane permeability, induce
de-energization of cells, leakage of cellular content, and disruption
DNA replication. [Marambio-Jones & Hoek, 2010] Many studies support an
anti-biofilm component of silver. However, a recent study suggests
that silver may indirectly promote bacterial adhesion [Carvalho et
al., 2013]"
http://thescienceofnutrition.me/2015/03/13/natural-anti-biofilm-agents/

I don't know whether mixing CS with xylitol is a good idea or not.

This article, BTW, contains a useful list of natural biofilm agents,
which includes :
- Proteolytic enzymes like serrapeptase
- Bacteriophages (which are viruses that produce a number of enzymes)
- Quorum-Sensing Inhibitors
- Ajoene, found in crushed garlic, inhibits production of rhamnolipid,
which shields biofilms from white blood cells
- Resveratrol demonstrates antimicrobial properties on periodontal pathogens
- Cranberry keeps bacteria from sticking to surfaces
- Chlorogenic acids (CGA) come largely from coffee
- Boswellic acids, the pentacyclic triterpenes, produced in plants
belonging to the genus Boswellia, disrupt preexisting biofilms.
- Aspirin and many other naturally-occurring salicylates can inhibit
the macromolecules that make up the biofilm matrix
- Formic, capric, and lauric acids (e.g. coconut oil) are broadly
inhibitory for bacteria. Undecylenic acid is another medium chain
fatty acid known for its anti-biofilm ability, including the
disruption of troubling biofilms of Candida albicans
- Iron promotes EPS production and biofilm formation in many
pathogenic, biofilm-producing bacteria. By tying up iron, lactoferrin
could conceivably show anti-biofilm activity.
- Bismuth appears to work largely by inhibiting bacterial EPS
[Domenico et al., 1991, 1992] via competitive interference with iron
metabolism.
- N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), at low milligram levels, was found to
decrease biofilm formation by a variety of bacteria
- sodium bicarbonate has an antibiofilm activity


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