Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-06-07 Thread needling around
Hi,
Did you ever post the directions on how to do this?  I went looking for them 
and couldn't find them.
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I went 
through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an 
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

  In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it is 
mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
island or some such overseas server.

  These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

  Jane MacRoss wrote: 
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out of 
range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info from 
people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

  I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved and 
edited the photos to boot.  (But they so often go down a lane and then stop 
and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going all the way down 
to the next road!)  

  I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared 
slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in Queensland, 
and next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside retreat!

  And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, 
I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

  R

  On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.



Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-28 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I suppose I just can't be bothered with it all Chuck.  It seems to me that we 
don't change anything at all--just expend a lot of mental energy getting 
nowhere!  dee

 On 28 May 2010, at 04:30, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Doesn't matter if it reasonable or not, Dee.
 Some people love the challenge.
 
 It's only a hobby, It's only a hobby...mantra...
 
 ... It's a conspiracy... Nyuck,nyuck,nyuck...Curly
 
   Chuck
 Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast
 to the real world.
 
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have never in all my life had a problem with anything like this at all, so I 
don't bother about it.  Not to say that I never will, but to date, I never 
have.  The trouble with worrying about stuff like this is that you miss out on 
so much and life is too short.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 21:52, bodhisattva wrote:

 The problem is, Google isn't to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people littered 
 through the company, and in fact, black-ops funding helped Google along 
 apparently.. I would never, ever trust them, and do not use any of their 
 services.
 
 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes 
 and see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at 
 all--after all, they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when 
 you are trying to choose a new place to live, because you can look at all 
 the different areas to see if you will like them--without leaving the front 
 room.  dee
 
 On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:
 
  
 
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I will Rowena!  I looked at one place and there was an irate chap chasing the 
Google camera waving his fist!  dee

On 26 May 2010, at 08:03, Rowena wrote:

 What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info from 
 people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.
 
 I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
 childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved and 
 edited the photos to boot.  (But they so often go down a lane and then stop 
 and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going all the way 
 down to the next road!)  
 
 I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared slack 
 jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in Queensland, and 
 next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside retreat!
 
 And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, I 
 gave them a wave, so watch out for me!
 
 R
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread bodhisattva

You worry?

I don't but I also take prudent precautions, and I am keenly aware of 
how the encroachment of privacy and freedoms happen.  These people are 
not to be trusted.  When AOL released their search records, and said 
oops, then thousands of people had their private searches presented to 
the world.  That was the wakeup call.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_scandal

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I have never in all my life had a problem with anything like this at all, so I 
don't bother about it.  Not to say that I never will, but to date, I never 
have.  The trouble with worrying about stuff like this is that you miss out on 
so much and life is too short.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 21:52, bodhisattva wrote:

  

The problem is, Google isn't to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people littered 
through the company, and in fact, black-ops funding helped Google along 
apparently.. I would never, ever trust them, and do not use any of their 
services.

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

 
  




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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Are you on the run? lol  I don't care who sees what--let them look all they 
want, I am more or less an open book.  In fact going to all the lengths to hide 
yourself that you do, I would have thought this would make 'them' keener to see 
what you don't want 'them' to see!  dee

On 26 May 2010, at 14:32, bodhisattva wrote:

 I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I went 
 through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
 backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
 require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through 
 an attorney, but most are pretty easy.
 
 In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
 email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it 
 is mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
 different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
 and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
 address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
 months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
 island or some such overseas server.
 
 These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?
 
 J


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread bodhisattva
You are missing the point here..  At what level do they raise the bar, 
to when it does finally impact you, and by that point, it is too late 
for you to Turn it back, because they've created a monster that's out 
of control?


For example, this is exactly why gun owners in this country oppose all 
gun laws. Because the Encroachment doctrine is very sneaky, and it is 
always how they do it.. Pass one law.. Then slowly, pass another.  As 
people become desensitized, work in another one. Before you know it, 
people are turning in their weapons.. But then again, that's what 
happens in the UK, and too many people over there are still asleep to 
even notice it, or do anything about it.


Then there is the issue of who do you Trust with your open book of 
your life?  A stalker? A govt. child molester? A govt employee that is 
also into identify theft and fraud?  Whos the watchers over the watchers 
themselves?  I'm afraid that it is going to be too late for you by the 
time you realize this, but thankfully, in this country much of this 
seems to be falling flat.


I love how the martial law machine in my own city is being dismembered, 
and they're desperately trying to salvage it.  The police department was 
heavily militarized a few years ago, now their tanks and special body 
armors are rotting in storage units. 30 cops are being laid off over the 
next few weeks, and they are furious over this.  We even have the police 
leadership trying to use fear on the public, saying We can't guarantee 
you will be safe if you lay any of us off!..  Funny, crime rate is 
dropping 10-20% per year in this area, we don't really need them much 
anymore, and certainly don't need any bootstrappers with machineguns and 
tanks. Now the fire department is shedding their ambulance force.  Guess 
not enough people are getting sick, not as many accidents anymore.  
They're sitting around washing trucks all day long and watching Sponge 
Bob. A few years ago when I started this project, there were ambulance 
sirens every hour around here, now I can go weeks without hearing one. 
That's how the cookie crumbles..


Funny what people can do once they decide to do something.  Gifting is 
empowerment of the powers of good, and disempowerment of the forces of 
oppression. Whether or not they are inside police departments, or 
outside of them, they're disabled or sent packing.


Oh damn, let's seriously move this to OT.. Won't comment anymore on CS 
list regarding this.


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Are you on the run? lol  I don't care who sees what--let them look all they 
want, I am more or less an open book.  In fact going to all the lengths to hide 
yourself that you do, I would have thought this would make 'them' keener to see what 
you don't want 'them' to see!  dee

On 26 May 2010, at 14:32, bodhisattva wrote:

  

I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I went 
through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an 
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my email 
headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it is 
mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
island or some such overseas server.

These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

J





Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Each to his own.  dee

On 27 May 2010, at 14:20, bodhisattva wrote:

 You worry?
 
 I don't but I also take prudent precautions, and I am keenly aware of how the 
 encroachment of privacy and freedoms happen.  These people are not to be 
 trusted.  When AOL released their search records, and said oops, then 
 thousands of people had their private searches presented to the world.  That 
 was the wakeup call.
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread M. G. Devour
Bodhi writes:
 Oh damn, let's seriously move this to OT.. Won't comment anymore on CS
 list regarding this. 

LOL I'm in favor of that action, or else let's let the Google thread 
die now, please. Too much politics now.

 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  Are you on the run? lol 

If you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?

There's a flaw in that argument somewhere... 

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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-27 Thread cking001
Doesn't matter if it reasonable or not, Dee.
Some people love the challenge.

It's only a hobby, It's only a hobby...mantra...

... It's a conspiracy... Nyuck,nyuck,nyuck...Curly

Chuck
Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast
to the real world.


On 5/27/2010 9:13:18 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 I have never in all my life had a problem with anything like this at all,
 so I
 don't bother about it.  Not to say that I never will, but to date, I never 
 have.  The trouble with worrying about stuff like this is that you miss out 
 on so much and life is too short.  dee
 
 On 25 May 2010, at 21:52, bodhisattva wrote:
 
  The problem is, Google isn't
 to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people littered through the company, and in
 fact, black-ops funding helped Google along apparently.. I would never,
 ever 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Rowena
What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info 
from people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.


I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved 
and edited the photos to boot. (But they so often go down a lane and 
then stop and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going 
all the way down to the next road!)


I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared 
slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in 
Queensland, and next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside 
retreat!


And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, 
I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!


R

On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

   


It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Jane MacRoss
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out of 
range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info from 
people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

  I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved and 
edited the photos to boot.  (But they so often go down a lane and then stop 
and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going all the way down 
to the next road!)  

  I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared slack 
jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in Queensland, and 
next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside retreat!

  And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, I 
gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

  R

  On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  
It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.

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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Donna

use Scroggle.org

http://scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

Donna ACS

I would love to have another search engine to go to for information 
but don't know an encrypted site.  Information please.
I feel our freedoms are slowly being erroded away.  Kinda like how do 
you boil a frog story...heat the water slow enough and he

never jumps out.

Dianne

 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:52:16 -0400
 From: bodhisat...@mutemail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted 
Gmail Option


 The problem is, Google isn't to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people 
littered

 through the company, and in fact, black-ops funding helped Google along
 apparently.. I would never, ever trust them, and do not use any of 
their

 services.

 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all 
the lanes and see where people live. The privacy thing doesn't bother 
me at all--after all, they only take the picture once. It is really 
helpful when you are trying to choose a new place to live, because you 
can look at all the different areas to see if you will like 
them--without leaving the front room. dee

 
  On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:
 
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread bodhisattva
I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I 
went through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, 
and backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some 
of them require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to 
push through an attorney, but most are pretty easy.


In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, 
it is mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of 
potentials), at a different geographical location. My connection is a 
2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If 
you google search this email address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them 
are from Mikes Archives. In 6 months I won't have the same email 
address, it will be out of some tropical island or some such overseas 
server.


These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

Jane MacRoss wrote:
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either 
out of range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!
 
Jane
 
http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth

~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

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*From:* Rowena mailto:new...@internode.on.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also
Encrypted Gmail Option

What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in
info from people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to
know my childhood area better in Australia than when I was over
there, and saved and edited the photos to boot.  (But they so
often go down a lane and then stop and, presumably, go back with
the camera off, instead of going all the way down to the next road!) 


I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon,
stared slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle
stations in Queensland, and next week I think I might Google-tour
Jane's hillside retreat!

And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road
again, I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

R

On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes 
and see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after 
all, they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying 
to choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas 
to see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  

It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing 
the internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its 
Street View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.







Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread needling around
How do we go about doing this???
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I went 
through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an 
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

  In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it is 
mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
island or some such overseas server.

  These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

  Jane MacRoss wrote: 
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out of 
range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info from 
people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

  I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved and 
edited the photos to boot.  (But they so often go down a lane and then stop 
and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going all the way down 
to the next road!)  

  I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared 
slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in Queensland, 
and next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside retreat!

  And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, 
I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

  R

  On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.



Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread bodhisattva
I wrote a tutorial on some of it, I was going to put together an E_Book 
and never got it done. Orgonite has kept me very busy.  But I can give 
you a list of the basis.  On Google Street View, there is a tiny button 
at the bottom, you have to look really hard, and it says Report Image, 
then you report it, say your privacy is being impeded, and they remove 
it.  Usually they remove just your home, but you can still see your home 
from other angles, so you report those each separately, and they pull 
them too. Before you know it, half your street is pulled.


For the others, I'll dig up my list.. Hope I can find it. I take privacy 
very seriously, electronic stuff is just a trojan horse for ever 
increasing totalitarianism.


For example, one Trick they use is to get you to knowingly submit to 
your own data mining. Facebook(Fedbook) is a good example, it's really a 
front company for intel divisions to gather immense data on people.  But 
never join shoppers clubs, discount clubs, shopper cards, any of this, 
it's all datamined and shared.  Remember, nothing is free from corporate 
scums, if they give you 10% off your purchase for signing up for Joe 
Smith Discount Club, what you are really doing is Opting-In to full 
monitoring of your purchases. Tivo for example, unless you call and 
demand an Opt-Out (All), they monitor every second of your TV usage, and 
then give this away to anyone they feel like. They don't tell you this, 
but I can show you how to find out from the Tivo screens if they are 
doing this - and they usually are.


Big brother is here, bigger than ever before. I hope people stop 
willingly giving out their lives to these corrupt fools. Implants? 
Already here. Heck, most people don't need implants, they carry around 
an implant already. (Cell phone)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN5phfu3mE
WARNING Facebook

If you own a cell phone (and I do not), watch this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3MOkXUaTI

needling around wrote:

How do we go about doing this???
Thanks.
PT

- Original Message -
*From:* bodhisattva mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also
Encrypted Gmail Option

I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the
engines.  I went through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal
data, phone numbers, and backgrounds scrubbed from all of the
online services as well. Some of them require a notarized
declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you
check my email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP,
it's not mine, it is mutated every few weeks to a different one
(Millions of potentials), at a different geographical location. My
connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel and the key is re-keyed
every few weeks. If you google search this email address you will
find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 months I
won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical
island or some such overseas server.

These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

Jane MacRoss wrote:

LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was
either out of range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!
 
Jane
 
http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth

~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

- Original Message -
*From:* Rowena mailto:new...@internode.on.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also
Encrypted Gmail Option





Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread needling around
Thanks.  I'll look forward to  the list.
I too am very big on privacy.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I wrote a tutorial on some of it, I was going to put together an E_Book and 
never got it done. Orgonite has kept me very busy.  But I can give you a list 
of the basis.  On Google Street View, there is a tiny button at the bottom, you 
have to look really hard, and it says Report Image, then you report it, say 
your privacy is being impeded, and they remove it.  Usually they remove just 
your home, but you can still see your home from other angles, so you report 
those each separately, and they pull them too. Before you know it, half your 
street is pulled.

  For the others, I'll dig up my list.. Hope I can find it. I take privacy very 
seriously, electronic stuff is just a trojan horse for ever increasing 
totalitarianism.

  For example, one Trick they use is to get you to knowingly submit to your 
own data mining. Facebook(Fedbook) is a good example, it's really a front 
company for intel divisions to gather immense data on people.  But never join 
shoppers clubs, discount clubs, shopper cards, any of this, it's all datamined 
and shared.  Remember, nothing is free from corporate scums, if they give you 
10% off your purchase for signing up for Joe Smith Discount Club, what you 
are really doing is Opting-In to full monitoring of your purchases. Tivo for 
example, unless you call and demand an Opt-Out (All), they monitor every second 
of your TV usage, and then give this away to anyone they feel like. They don't 
tell you this, but I can show you how to find out from the Tivo screens if they 
are doing this - and they usually are.

  Big brother is here, bigger than ever before. I hope people stop willingly 
giving out their lives to these corrupt fools. Implants? Already here. Heck, 
most people don't need implants, they carry around an implant already. (Cell 
phone)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN5phfu3mE
  WARNING Facebook

  If you own a cell phone (and I do not), watch this video..
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3MOkXUaTI

  needling around wrote: 
How do we go about doing this???
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I 
went through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an 
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

  In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it is 
mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
island or some such overseas server.

  These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

  Jane MacRoss wrote: 
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out 
of range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted 
Gmail Option





Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Pat

Google is not too accurate.  They keep showing a house down the road as our 
house address.  I correct it, but then it happens again.  I guess it's good in 
case someone's looking for me.  lol  Our picture shows hubby on the lawnmower 
out front.  Wonder how many people have seen a car in the driveway which 
shouldn't be there (the wife's boyfriend?  hahaha)  

When we were driving the FedEx truck, the live view maps were wonderful.  We 
could check out the area before going in.  You don't want to end up in tight 
spaces or wrong places in a large truck.

Pat






  


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CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Norton, Steve

This is a good addition by Google. Maybe Gmail is a better option than
before. Although I am not sure how to enable it. 

Would use of encrypted Gmail affect silver list access?

 - Steve N


http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/showArticle.jhtml?a
rticleID=224900715cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-05-25_h

Google Launches Encrypted Search 


Google search results now come wrapped in a digital lock to keep them
from prying eyes. 



Google on Friday introduced an encrypted version of Google Search, a
move that makes it far more difficult for anyone to intercept and read
communication between Google and users during search sessions. 
Encrypted search is available by initiating an https:// connection to
Google rather than an unprotected 
Had Internet users in Europe been using Google's encrypted search, their
searches would not have been exposed by Google's recently disclosed
inadvertent collection of wireless network traffic from public WiFi
hotspots. 
But Google's introduction of encrypted search isn't in response to that
incident, said Google product manager Murali Viswanathan in a phone
briefing. It's part of a broad initiative to add encryption to its
services. 

In January, Google enabled https:// connections for Gmail by default,
having previously made it an option available to users who wanted extra
security. 
As a consequence of using an https:// connection to reach Google,
clicking on a search results link will send less information to the Web
site at the end of the link. Encrypted search users will not transmit
the search keywords they entered when they submitted their query or the
fact that they used Google to find the site at the end of the search
results link. This deprives publishers of information that may be useful
to their marketing efforts, which may be why Google isn't forcing
everyone to use encrypted search. But it provides Google users with more
privacy. 
Adding encryption represents a cost for Google, though Viswanathan was
unable to provide data to quantify the expense. It costs Google in terms
of computational resources and engineering time. 
It requires a lot of work from the development side, said Viswanathan.
We do realize those extra costs do bring extra benefits to our users. 
There's also a cost for the user: Encrypted search is slightly slower,
through Viswanathan says it shouldn't be noticeable. 
Encrypted search is not a complete security solution. Data has to be
presented to the user in unencrypted form so any person or malware that
has access to the user's computer or mobile device may be able to read
that information. Encryption does nothing to prevent users from being
duped into supplying personal information to phishers. And the
encryption only extends to Google Search at the moment; searches on
Google Maps or Google Images, for example, will not be encrypted. 
To prevent users from inadvertently shifting from encrypted to
unencrypted search, Google is removing the Maps and Images links from
the left-hand menu pane on its search results pages. 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread bodhisattva
I would never trust google.. I've used an encrypted search engine for 
YEARS...  The only one I trust that actually keeps no data, at all.


https://www.ixquick.com/

Norton, Steve wrote:

This is a good addition by Google. Maybe Gmail is a better option than
before. Although I am not sure how to enable it. 


Would use of encrypted Gmail affect silver list access?

 - Steve N


http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/showArticle.jhtml?a
rticleID=224900715cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-05-25_h

Google Launches Encrypted Search 



Google search results now come wrapped in a digital lock to keep them
from prying eyes. 




Google on Friday introduced an encrypted version of Google Search, a
move that makes it far more difficult for anyone to intercept and read
communication between Google and users during search sessions. 
Encrypted search is available by initiating an https:// connection to
Google rather than an unprotected 
Had Internet users in Europe been using Google's encrypted search, their

searches would not have been exposed by Google's recently disclosed
inadvertent collection of wireless network traffic from public WiFi
hotspots. 
But Google's introduction of encrypted search isn't in response to that

incident, said Google product manager Murali Viswanathan in a phone
briefing. It's part of a broad initiative to add encryption to its
services. 


In January, Google enabled https:// connections for Gmail by default,
having previously made it an option available to users who wanted extra
security. 
As a consequence of using an https:// connection to reach Google,

clicking on a search results link will send less information to the Web
site at the end of the link. Encrypted search users will not transmit
the search keywords they entered when they submitted their query or the
fact that they used Google to find the site at the end of the search
results link. This deprives publishers of information that may be useful
to their marketing efforts, which may be why Google isn't forcing
everyone to use encrypted search. But it provides Google users with more
privacy. 
Adding encryption represents a cost for Google, though Viswanathan was

unable to provide data to quantify the expense. It costs Google in terms
of computational resources and engineering time. 
It requires a lot of work from the development side, said Viswanathan.
We do realize those extra costs do bring extra benefits to our users. 
There's also a cost for the user: Encrypted search is slightly slower,
through Viswanathan says it shouldn't be noticeable. 
Encrypted search is not a complete security solution. Data has to be

presented to the user in unencrypted form so any person or malware that
has access to the user's computer or mobile device may be able to read
that information. Encryption does nothing to prevent users from being
duped into supplying personal information to phishers. And the
encryption only extends to Google Search at the moment; searches on
Google Maps or Google Images, for example, will not be encrypted. 
To prevent users from inadvertently shifting from encrypted to

unencrypted search, Google is removing the Maps and Images links from
the left-hand menu pane on its search results pages. 

  



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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread M. G. Devour
Steve writes:
 Would use of encrypted Gmail affect silver list access?

Well, there'd be no point in sending an encrypted message to a public 
forum, at least for the purposes of the forum. Beyond that, we'd have 
to see if anything else about the service confuses the list software.

As for trust, I might give it a chance if I knew for certain the 
software generating the encryption was open source and well regarded 
within the wider OS software community.

For anything I wanted to be really secure, I'd want to compile all the 
software involved from source and run it on my own machine.

Mike D.

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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Donna

It's what I use and never had any problems!
Donna ACS


This is a good addition by Google. Maybe Gmail is a better option than
before. Although I am not sure how to enable it.

Would use of encrypted Gmail affect silver list access?

  - Steve N


http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/showArticle.jhtml?a
rticleID=224900715cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-05-25_h

Google Launches Encrypted Search


Google search results now come wrapped in a digital lock to keep them
from prying eyes.



Google on Friday introduced an encrypted version of Google Search, a
move that makes it far more difficult for anyone to intercept and read
communication between Google and users during search sessions.
Encrypted search is available by initiating an https:// connection to
Google rather than an unprotected
Had Internet users in Europe been using Google's encrypted search, their
searches would not have been exposed by Google's recently disclosed
inadvertent collection of wireless network traffic from public WiFi
hotspots.
But Google's introduction of encrypted search isn't in response to that
incident, said Google product manager Murali Viswanathan in a phone
briefing. It's part of a broad initiative to add encryption to its
services.

In January, Google enabled https:// connections for Gmail by default,
having previously made it an option available to users who wanted extra
security.
As a consequence of using an https:// connection to reach Google,
clicking on a search results link will send less information to the Web
site at the end of the link. Encrypted search users will not transmit
the search keywords they entered when they submitted their query or the
fact that they used Google to find the site at the end of the search
results link. This deprives publishers of information that may be useful
to their marketing efforts, which may be why Google isn't forcing
everyone to use encrypted search. But it provides Google users with more
privacy.
Adding encryption represents a cost for Google, though Viswanathan was
unable to provide data to quantify the expense. It costs Google in terms
of computational resources and engineering time.
It requires a lot of work from the development side, said Viswanathan.
We do realize those extra costs do bring extra benefits to our users.
There's also a cost for the user: Encrypted search is slightly slower,
through Viswanathan says it shouldn't be noticeable.
Encrypted search is not a complete security solution. Data has to be
presented to the user in unencrypted form so any person or malware that
has access to the user's computer or mobile device may be able to read
that information. Encryption does nothing to prevent users from being
duped into supplying personal information to phishers. And the
encryption only extends to Google Search at the moment; searches on
Google Maps or Google Images, for example, will not be encrypted.
To prevent users from inadvertently shifting from encrypted to
unencrypted search, Google is removing the Maps and Images links from
the left-hand menu pane on its search results pages.


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Rowena



It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon 
for spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, 
accusing the internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in 
history.


In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its 
Street View photo cars were also collecting information about people's 
wireless internet connections.


..

They consider that they are the appropriate people to make the 
decisions about people's privacy data and that they are perfectly 
entitled to drive the streets and collect as much private information by 
photographing over fences and collecting data information, he said.


This is probably the single greatest breach in the history of privacy.

In a post on Google's official blog, Alan Eustace, a senior 
vice-president at the company, said the information on wi-fi connections 
was collected by mistake.


In 2006 an engineer working on an experimental wi-fi project wrote a 
piece of code that sampled all categories of publicly broadcast wi-fi 
data, the blog reads.


A year later, when our mobile team started a project to collect basic 
wi-fi network data like SSID information and MAC addresses using 
Google's Street View cars, they included that code in their software - 
although the project leaders did not want, and had no intention of 
using, payload data.


.

Google was yet to return calls from AM for a response.



On 25/05/2010 9:49 PM, bodhisattva wrote:
I would never trust google.. I've used an encrypted search engine for 
YEARS...  The only one I trust that actually keeps no data, at all.





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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

 
 
 It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
 spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:
 
 Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
 internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.
 
 In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
 View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
 internet connections.
 
 .


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Donna

I agree!
Donna ACS


I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

   


It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread bodhisattva
The problem is, Google isn't to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people littered 
through the company, and in fact, black-ops funding helped Google along 
apparently.. I would never, ever trust them, and do not use any of their 
services.


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  



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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Jane MacRoss
This appears to me just to be a pre/pro censor implementation issue - 
these will build up and up via the media until people beg to have the 
censorship (and probably the verichip too while they are getting 
ensored)  - FaceBook was also included in this privacy attack


For the world event s which we are moving towards censorship is imperative 
for the governments of the world to continue and such censorship is 
essential so that other nations' citizens remain unaware of what is really 
going on - google and facebook really give the game away - governments want 
their deeds to remain private - this is really the crux of the matter.


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It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon
for spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
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RE: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Dianne France

I would love to have another search engine to go to for information but don't 
know an encrypted site.  Information please.

I feel our freedoms are slowly being erroded away.  Kinda like how do you boil 
a frog story...heat the water slow enough and he

never jumps out.

 

Dianne
 
 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:52:16 -0400
 From: bodhisat...@mutemail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
 Option
 
 The problem is, Google isn't to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people littered 
 through the company, and in fact, black-ops funding helped Google along 
 apparently.. I would never, ever trust them, and do not use any of their 
 services.
 
 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes 
  and see where people live. The privacy thing doesn't bother me at 
  all--after all, they only take the picture once. It is really helpful when 
  you are trying to choose a new place to live, because you can look at all 
  the different areas to see if you will like them--without leaving the front 
  room. dee
 
  On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:
 
  
 
 
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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread bodhisattva

https://www.ixquick.com/eng/?th=white

Dianne France wrote:
I would love to have another search engine to go to for information 
but don't know an encrypted site.  Information please.
I feel our freedoms are slowly being erroded away.  Kinda like how do 
you boil a frog story...heat the water slow enough and he

never jumps out.
 
Dianne
 
 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:52:16 -0400

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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-25 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Unless the company is set up and administered by an intelligence  
agency.   Who would know? A free encryption company called Pretty  
Good Privacy was highly promoted some years ago, with many corporate  
news items and pictures of the long-haired guys who supposedly created  
PGP. Who knows who they really are, or how the software really  
works?   One in ten million, maybe.






On Tuesday, May 25, 2010, at 22:49 Asia/Tokyo, bodhisattva wrote:

I would never trust google.. I've used an encrypted search engine for  
YEARS...  The only one I trust that actually keeps no data, at all.


https://www.ixquick.com/

Norton, Steve wrote:

This is a good addition by Google. Maybe Gmail is a better option than
before. Although I am not sure how to enable it.
Would use of encrypted Gmail affect silver list access?

 - Steve N


http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/ 
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rticleID=224900715cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-05-25_h

Google Launches Encrypted Search

Google search results now come wrapped in a digital lock to keep them
from prying eyes.


Google on Friday introduced an encrypted version of Google Search, a
move that makes it far more difficult for anyone to intercept and read
communication between Google and users during search sessions.  
Encrypted search is available by initiating an https:// connection to
Google rather than an unprotected Had Internet users in Europe been  
using Google's encrypted search, their

searches would not have been exposed by Google's recently disclosed
inadvertent collection of wireless network traffic from public WiFi
hotspots. But Google's introduction of encrypted search isn't in  
response to that

incident, said Google product manager Murali Viswanathan in a phone
briefing. It's part of a broad initiative to add encryption to its
services.
In January, Google enabled https:// connections for Gmail by default,
having previously made it an option available to users who wanted  
extra
security. As a consequence of using an https:// connection to reach  
Google,
clicking on a search results link will send less information to the  
Web

site at the end of the link. Encrypted search users will not transmit
the search keywords they entered when they submitted their query or  
the

fact that they used Google to find the site at the end of the search
results link. This deprives publishers of information that may be  
useful

to their marketing efforts, which may be why Google isn't forcing
everyone to use encrypted search. But it provides Google users with  
more
privacy. Adding encryption represents a cost for Google, though  
Viswanathan was
unable to provide data to quantify the expense. It costs Google in  
terms
of computational resources and engineering time. It requires a lot  
of work from the development side, said Viswanathan.
We do realize those extra costs do bring extra benefits to our  
users. There's also a cost for the user: Encrypted search is  
slightly slower,
through Viswanathan says it shouldn't be noticeable. Encrypted search  
is not a complete security solution. Data has to be
presented to the user in unencrypted form so any person or malware  
that

has access to the user's computer or mobile device may be able to read
that information. Encryption does nothing to prevent users from being
duped into supplying personal information to phishers. And the
encryption only extends to Google Search at the moment; searches on
Google Maps or Google Images, for example, will not be encrypted. To  
prevent users from inadvertently shifting from encrypted to

unencrypted search, Google is removing the Maps and Images links from
the left-hand menu pane on its search results pages.




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