Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Pride labs are not charlatans. They are not a bunch of dopey characters. I'll get back to you with their answer. Dan - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 5:06 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Dan, I don't give a d-mn what Pride Lbs say, but arcing gold in air is a disaster Does you product have any color. Without a light violet color you do not have CG. I have done the design work and spent the money for the AA's to verufy my work. Without a lab analysis you aare being very foolish. Ole Bob P.E. fig...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks. I shall ask Pride labs support. Arcing method goes much faster than submersion of both electrodes. They prefer it. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Any time you do this and don't use an inert gas banket, you make nitric acid. Nitric acid will indeed register on a PPM meter quite well. I don't suppose it's possible that you're drinking dilute nitric acid with no gold in it? Ode CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Thanks. I shall ask Pride labs support. Arcing method goes much faster than submersion of both electrodes. They prefer it. Dan - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Any time you do this and don't use an inert gas banket, you make nitric acid. Nitric acid will indeed register on a PPM meter quite well. I don't suppose it's possible that you're drinking dilute nitric acid with no gold in it? Ode CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Anybody know if Pride labs is a source of reliable information? I just checked out their site and see they charge almost double the price of other places for a TDS meter, and the TDS is what they recommend and include in some packages for measuring ppm. For what they charge for the TDS one could get a PWT from silvergen. So it makes me suspicious. paula - Original Message - From: fig...@comcast.net Thanks. I shall ask Pride labs support. Arcing method goes much faster than submersion of both electrodes. They prefer it. Dan - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Any time you do this and don't use an inert gas banket, you make nitric acid. Nitric acid will indeed register on a PPM meter quite well. I don't suppose it's possible that you're drinking dilute nitric acid with no gold in it? Ode CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Hi Ode, You are SO right. When people start playing around with HVAC arcs and do not have the test equipment to measure what they have, they are making a poisonous brew I have investigated almost any protocol that can be thought of with the HVAC NST's. For those who do not know their chemistry history, Dr. Farber in pre WW1 Germany discovered that he could make nitrates for explosives by forming an arc in air. That is how Germany made their explosives in WW! and WW2. If you don't know what you are doing leave it alone! Ole Bob Registered Professional Electrical Engineer !! Ode Coyote wrote: Any time you do this and don't use an inert gas banket, you make nitric acid. Nitric acid will indeed register on a PPM meter quite well. I don't suppose it's possible that you're drinking dilute nitric acid with no gold in it? Ode CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Dan, I don't give a d-mn what Pride Lbs say, but arcing gold in air is a disaster Does you product have any color. Without a light violet color you do not have CG. I have done the design work and spent the money for the AA's to verufy my work. Without a lab analysis you aare being very foolish. Ole Bob P.E. fig...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks. I shall ask Pride labs support. Arcing method goes much faster than submersion of both electrodes. They prefer it. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
I am making it with good results. I took a leap of faith and plunked down $400 with Pride Labs. I feel more energetic and positive. My mind is more clear. I will have to get a better read on dosage but right now take 4-8 oz per day of 30ppm colloidal gold. Drink it first thing in the morning. I have made 75ppm gold and used this too. The instructions with the Pride Labs machine say this is still non clumping colloidal gold My unit makes the CG via polarized HVDC. Not HVAC, which is what pushed me over the line to buy it and not try to make my own unit with a neon sign transformer. CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. My take is: The less junk food you eat, the better the CG effect is. It's a bit subtle so will be missed by a heavy meat eater. This is my theory. Thus CG is not a universal cure all. You have to do your bit too with the CG. My guess is someone who prays and meditates will feel a stronger CG effect. Same for Chi Gung and Tai Chi. I would love to take CG on a five day fast when the weather warms up. Call up the Pride labs support number in Oregon for more info, they are friendly and informative. Go to their website. The unit makes a quart of colloidal gold (silver and copper wires were also included in kit) in 15-30 minutes. Comes with a ppm meter so you know how powerful the solution is. Weighs about 3 pounds Dan ___ - Original Message - From: Dan To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Anybody making colloidal gold with good results ? Or do we have to spend $40 an ounce on the internet ! Dan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --- Our website address: http://www.silvermedicine.org Posting Rules: * No political posts, even health related, are permitted that are not directly related to another list members personal request or health condition. * No off-topic posting is permitted * All posts should contain language that is respectful toward other people. * Other health related information may be shared, provided that the information directly deals with another list member's health and well being. * No products or promotional material may be submitted as a part of messages. * Tag lines, within reason, are permitted at the end of email messages. * Violation of the above policy may result in immediate removal from the silvermedicine.org list without warning. No medical advice of any kind is given through this forum, and therefore no information shared is to be construed as such. Messages and materials shared are offered as personal experience, research, and discussion information for research purposes. As always, a licensed health-care professional should be consulted in all matters of illness and health. The FDA has listed all colloidal silver products as unclassified drugs. The FDA has no information on the safety or effectiveness of colloidal silver to treat any condition. To view the archives and membership area, goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: silverdatawebsite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com To contact the moderator privately send an email to: silverdatawebs...@hotmail.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Hi Dan: Thanks for the report. I'm not a colloidal gold expert, but please remember that there is a history behind gold as used in medicine. While the gold products used in clinical practice are gold compounds, and not at all like the product you are making, I thought you would like to consider: 1. That there is a tight dosage window with gold use in the body: If the body adsorbs too much gold, the beneficial effects are reversed; in other words, it can have the exact opposite effect that a smaller dose would ( see any good drug handbook ). I think it would take quite a bit low PPM CG to achieve the same effects as the sulfur or salt gold compounds, but it's just good to keep in mind, in the event that you experience benefit, then all of the sudden you experience nuerological effects, increase in arthritic pain, etc, that one may just simply have to decrease the dosage amount. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: fig...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold I am making it with good results. I took a leap of faith and plunked down $400 with Pride Labs. I feel more energetic and positive. My mind is more clear. I will have to get a better read on dosage but right now take 4-8 oz per day of 30ppm colloidal gold. Drink it first thing in the morning. I have made 75ppm gold and used this too. The instructions with the Pride Labs machine say this is still non clumping colloidal gold My unit makes the CG via polarized HVDC. Not HVAC, which is what pushed me over the line to buy it and not try to make my own unit with a neon sign transformer. CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. My take is: The less junk food you eat, the better the CG effect is. It's a bit subtle so will be missed by a heavy meat eater. This is my theory. Thus CG is not a universal cure all. You have to do your bit too with the CG. My guess is someone who prays and meditates will feel a stronger CG effect. Same for Chi Gung and Tai Chi. I would love to take CG on a five day fast when the weather warms up. Call up the Pride labs support number in Oregon for more info, they are friendly and informative. Go to their website. The unit makes a quart of colloidal gold (silver and copper wires were also included in kit) in 15-30 minutes. Comes with a ppm meter so you know how powerful the solution is. Weighs about 3 pounds Dan ___ - Original Message - From: Dan To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Anybody making colloidal gold with good results ? Or do we have to spend $40 an ounce on the internet ! Dan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --- Our website address: http://www.silvermedicine.org Posting Rules: * No political posts, even health related, are permitted that are not directly related to another list members personal request or health condition. * No off-topic posting is permitted * All posts should contain language that is respectful toward other people. * Other health related information may be shared, provided that the information directly deals with another list member's health and well being. * No products or promotional material may be submitted as a part of messages. * Tag lines, within reason, are permitted at the end of email messages. * Violation of the above policy may result in immediate removal from the silvermedicine.org list without warning. No medical advice of any kind is given through this forum, and therefore no information shared is to be construed as such. Messages and materials shared are offered as personal experience, research, and discussion information for research purposes. As always, a licensed health-care professional should be consulted in all matters of illness and health. The FDA has listed all colloidal silver products as unclassified drugs. The FDA has no information on the safety or effectiveness of colloidal silver to treat any condition. To view the archives and membership area, goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: silverdatawebsite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com To contact the moderator privately send an email to: silverdatawebs...@hotmail.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Many thanks. I am aware of extremes and will gauge my physical reactions to CG. Dan - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Hi Dan: Thanks for the report. I'm not a colloidal gold expert, but please remember that there is a history behind gold as used in medicine. While the gold products used in clinical practice are gold compounds, and not at all like the product you are making, I thought you would like to consider: 1. That there is a tight dosage window with gold use in the body: If the body adsorbs too much gold, the beneficial effects are reversed; in other words, it can have the exact opposite effect that a smaller dose would ( see any good drug handbook ). I think it would take quite a bit low PPM CG to achieve the same effects as the sulfur or salt gold compounds, but it's just good to keep in mind, in the event that you experience benefit, then all of the sudden you experience nuerological effects, increase in arthritic pain, etc, that one may just simply have to decrease the dosage amount. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: fig...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold I am making it with good results. I took a leap of faith and plunked down $400 with Pride Labs. I feel more energetic and positive. My mind is more clear. I will have to get a better read on dosage but right now take 4-8 oz per day of 30ppm colloidal gold. Drink it first thing in the morning. I have made 75ppm gold and used this too. The instructions with the Pride Labs machine say this is still non clumping colloidal gold My unit makes the CG via polarized HVDC. Not HVAC, which is what pushed me over the line to buy it and not try to make my own unit with a neon sign transformer. CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. My take is: The less junk food you eat, the better the CG effect is. It's a bit subtle so will be missed by a heavy meat eater. This is my theory. Thus CG is not a universal cure all. You have to do your bit too with the CG. My guess is someone who prays and meditates will feel a stronger CG effect. Same for Chi Gung and Tai Chi. I would love to take CG on a five day fast when the weather warms up. Call up the Pride labs support number in Oregon for more info, they are friendly and informative. Go to their website. The unit makes a quart of colloidal gold (silver and copper wires were also included in kit) in 15-30 minutes. Comes with a ppm meter so you know how powerful the solution is. Weighs about 3 pounds Dan ___ - Original Message - From: Dan To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Anybody making colloidal gold with good results ? Or do we have to spend $40 an ounce on the internet ! Dan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --- Our website address: http://www.silvermedicine.org Posting Rules: * No political posts, even health related, are permitted that are not directly related to another list members personal request or health condition. * No off-topic posting is permitted * All posts should contain language that is respectful toward other people. * Other health related information may be shared, provided that the information directly deals with another list member's health and well being. * No products or promotional material may be submitted as a part of messages. * Tag lines, within reason, are permitted at the end of email messages. * Violation of the above policy may result in immediate removal from the silvermedicine.org list without warning. No medical advice of any kind is given through this forum, and therefore no information shared is to be construed as such. Messages and materials shared are offered as personal experience, research, and discussion information for research purposes. As always, a licensed health-care professional should be consulted in all matters of illness and health. The FDA has listed all colloidal silver products as unclassified drugs. The FDA has no information on the safety or effectiveness of colloidal silver to treat any condition. To view the archives and membership area, goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: silverdatawebsite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com To contact the moderator
