Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
Hi Daddybob, group, I was trying to complete the Brooks Bradley airbrush set but faced difficulties where I live. After some hesitation and research these days I bought an Omron NE-28 pump-type nebulizer. It claims 5 um particles, as do also some ultrasonic units like Mystique. It can be used with CS finely. In addition the protocol with hot pepper (separately!) can help. I wonder whether I can supply oxygen at the air intake but suppose that it would deteriorate internal plastic and rubber parts. Another option is to feed oxygen just before the nebulizing chamber - not a big deal. This will increase oxygen content in mixture with air. Wonder if it will nebulize well then. Please offer ideas in this sense. If anyone can direct me to a link showing ultrasonic nebulizer internals and schematic diagram please do it. Simeon - Най-добрият начин да научаваш новините, които те интересуват. Бързо лесно и безплатно! http://radar.bg – новини с филтър -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
Morning Simeon, At 02:54 AM 5/11/2007, you wrote: If anyone can direct me to a link showing ultrasonic nebulizer internals and schematic diagram please do it. Do you mean electronics or air and associated functions? Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
Marshall wrote: the airbrush seems to fall at 5 inches or so a second, and the ultrasonic appears to almost not fall at all. That's pretty much the difference I see with my two devices. The airbrush fog will drop and wet something, but the atomizer fog will float and dissipate. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/797 - Release Date: 5/10/2007 5:10 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
Not all ultrasonic personal humidifiers use wicks.. The Medisana unit has neither wick nor filter and has a nebulizer discharge tube. Since ions are dissolved in the water, a wick will probably transport them to the vibrating plate along with whatever particles the wick doesn't filter out. The wick absorbs water/ions and any left behind to dry will oxidize into that brown residue. If you run one till a napkin is good and wet, let it dry and you see the napkin turn brown after it dries, that's proof that the wick is OK...maybe not the best, but it's doing something. Some have filters have ion exchange resin beads in them. Minerals will encrust the plate if not removed, hence the beads. You'll probably need to gut that filter. I never noticed any agglomeration...or silver encrusting the plate. Ode At 10:37 AM 5/9/2007 -0400, you wrote: Day Sutton wrote: I read a post that said the ultrosonic nebulizer caused agglomoration and the silver would fall out of suspensionany comments? Since I don't own one, but I do own two small personal ultrasonic hmidifiers, that we've talked about here in the past and used as nebulizers, I have this question... Those humidifiers I have use wicks to transport the liquid to the misting apparatus. Those wicks turn brown from trapped and oxidized silver. It makes me think that this is not particularly effective as a nebulizer, although very quiet and convenient, but my observation is that my air powered neb gets the job done better and faster. So- Do ultrasonic nebs use wicks? Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 5/8/2007 2:23 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM
RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
John wrote: The ultrasonic gets the product deeper into the lung where the problems are. Not trying to be argumentative, but why do you say that? At first glance it would seem that mist is mist, but actually I already know that's not always so after my experiments with an airbrush. So is an ultrasonic nebulizer capable of making a finer mist? And if it is, is there a kind that has a better mechanism than any other? (I don’t want one that uses a wick) I already have extensive experience with a standard atomizing chamber- compressed air- type nebulizer, and an airbrush rig; now I want to determine if it's really worth it for me to invest in an ultrasonic neb. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
I believe that Brooks Bradley indicated that the airbrush nebulizer was superior since it could make smaller particles. The airbrush using oxygen was particularly effective. Dan -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question John wrote: The ultrasonic gets the product deeper into the lung where the problems are. Not trying to be argumentative, but why do you say that? At first glance it would seem that mist is mist, but actually I already know that's not always so after my experiments with an airbrush. So is an ultrasonic nebulizer capable of making a finer mist? And if it is, is there a kind that has a better mechanism than any other? (I don't want one that uses a wick) I already have extensive experience with a standard atomizing chamber- compressed air- type nebulizer, and an airbrush rig; now I want to determine if it's really worth it for me to invest in an ultrasonic neb. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
I believe that Brooks Bradley indicated that the airbrush nebulizer was superior since it could make smaller particles. I ordered my airbrush from Harbor Freight, as I believe Brooks did, and if I recall correctly, the stock # he gave was no longer available (or at least not in the catalog I had), so the airbrush is not exactly the same. While I would not hesitate to use it if needed, after much playing with adjustments I still found that my salvaged atomizer from a medical quality air pressure nebulizer was making a finer mist and was easier to use and more comfortable than my airbrush nebulizer. Besides, all this was done before ultrasonic nebs hit the market. So my Q remains- do Ultrasonics make a finer mist? Or are they just more compact? DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
ransley wrote: I believe that Brooks Bradley indicated that the airbrush nebulizer was superior since it could make smaller particles. I ordered my airbrush from Harbor Freight, as I believe Brooks did, and if I recall correctly, the stock # he gave was no longer available (or at least not in the catalog I had), so the airbrush is not exactly the same. While I would not hesitate to use it if needed, after much playing with adjustments I still found that my salvaged atomizer from a medical quality air pressure nebulizer was making a finer mist and was easier to use and more comfortable than my airbrush nebulizer. Besides, all this was done before ultrasonic nebs hit the market. So my Q remains- do Ultrasonics make a finer mist? Or are they just more compact? I have no data on this, but I believe that the droplet size on the ultrasonics is smaller. I base this on the action of the mist each produce, the airbrush seems to fall at 5 inches or so a second, and the ultrasonic appears to almost not fall at all. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
Day Sutton wrote: I read a post that said the ultrosonic nebulizer caused agglomoration and the silver would fall out of suspensionany comments? Since I don't own one, but I do own two small personal ultrasonic hmidifiers, that we've talked about here in the past and used as nebulizers, I have this question... Those humidifiers I have use wicks to transport the liquid to the misting apparatus. Those wicks turn brown from trapped and oxidized silver. It makes me think that this is not particularly effective as a nebulizer, although very quiet and convenient, but my observation is that my air powered neb gets the job done better and faster. So- Do ultrasonic nebs use wicks? Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 5/8/2007 2:23 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question
My portable ultrasonic nebulizer does not have a wick it has a product cup and there is nothing left in the cup when I'm done with it. The ultrasonic gets the product deeper into the lung where the problems are. John. - Original Message - From: ransley rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer question Day Sutton wrote: I read a post that said the ultrosonic nebulizer caused agglomoration and the silver would fall out of suspensionany comments? Since I don't own one, but I do own two small personal ultrasonic hmidifiers, that we've talked about here in the past and used as nebulizers, I have this question... Those humidifiers I have use wicks to transport the liquid to the misting apparatus. Those wicks turn brown from trapped and oxidized silver. It makes me think that this is not particularly effective as a nebulizer, although very quiet and convenient, but my observation is that my air powered neb gets the job done better and faster. So- Do ultrasonic nebs use wicks? Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 5/8/2007 2:23 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 5/8/2007 2:23 PM
