Re: CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
As i currently use 24V DC adaptor on 2 (125mm long, 2mm thick) 99,9% silver electrodes for 15 minutes in 500 ml of boiled distilled water, I have no way of knowing how much ppm I produced. I only know it was both times clear not yellow. The + electrode (red on the multimeter) became dirty gray and the - electrode (black on the multimeter) became yellow. I think I read somewhere that it should be vica versa. I think that's pretty normal. Let it go a while longer and the anode becomes very dark gray and the cathode (-) gathers a fluffy light gray sludge, but can start out yellow and tarnished looking as you describe. Don't stir any of that stuff into the brew. Remove the wires carefully and wipe them off with a clean, lint-free something or other. As long as you are confident that you are using at least 99.9% pure silver, then I really have to believe you're getting pretty good CS. Worst case, get a silver bullion coin or ingot for a few bucks/euros from a coin shop and hang the end of *that* in the water. You're probably not running it long enough to turn your CS yellow. Try running for an hour and you'll probably start to get yellow! Without current limiting that is the kind of material you should get. Your short run time, however, is probably giving you the most potent CS you can get from such a system, as whatever silver is in there is mostly ionic and *very* small particles that haven't agglomerated. Which makes be suspect that you're looking at a herx of some sort. Which suggests that you back off the Colloidal Silver for a bit and try some Grapefruit Seed Extract or any of the other known antibacterials available in the alternative pharmacopeia. See if you get a similar reaction from any of them, which would indicate your stomach is responding to the toxic load from pathogens dying off. What brand of commercial CS was it you were using? Another thing to ask yourself is what kind of shape is your liver in? Is it having are harder time clearing the toxins you're exposing than it ought to? Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
Dear CS-community, Sorry if my post()s is/are elaborate, but I really want to find a solution to my problem and I try to give as much as context as possible. As I stated some time ago, I became sick for about 1,5 week (having a need-to-throw-up feeling) after taking 3 coffee-spoons of self-made CS. See: RE: CSStomach-problems when using CS? in the archives. As I feared I had poisoned myself, I had a stomach check (with a camera through the mouth into the stomach), a blood and urine check after 1 week of being sick, everything was ok according to the doctors. Only a minor irritation/infection in my stomach, but that was very normal and could be viral. Half a week later everything was back to normal. Two weeks later, I wanted to give making CS by myself another try. This time I used 2 silver electrodes that I ordered from a jeweler that made it from 99,9% silver grains that he uses for making jewelery. I expressed my reason for needing to be sure it is 99,9% pure. After using it for about 4 days now, just spraying it in my nose (2 times a day, 3 sprays in each nostril), I'm feeling ill in my stomach again and again waking up in the middle of the night with a need-to-throw-up feeling. As I don't think it's the silver (as I got the same result from 2 different suppliers) I could only think: * it is the destilled water that I use, although it comes from a pharmacy store. * I'm allergic to silver, although I don't have any problems with wearing my silver ring. * I have some kind of infection that I don't even know about or my nasal problem is connected with my stomach as someone mentioned to me. * it's a normal reaction (e.g.: Herxheimer reaction): the feeling I experience is need-to-throw-up (without having thrown up), waking up in the middle of the night with that feeling and a strange, weak, almost tinteling sensation in my arms. I've read alot about CS at alot of different websites, but I cannot find anything about this kind of reaction. I truly believe that CS works, but why doesn't it do the wonderful thing to me? PS: As i currently use 24V DC adaptor on 2 (125mm long, 2mm thick) 99,9% silver electrodes for 15 minutes in 500 ml of boiled distilled water, I have no way of knowing how much ppm I produced. I only know it was both times clear not yellow. The + electrode (red on the multimeter) became dirty gray and the - electrode (black on the multimeter) became yellow. I think I read somewhere that it should be vica versa. Kind regards, Filip
Re: CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
Hi Filip: Have you recently, or a history of, pulmonary difficulties? Lung problems, such as a recurring lung infection? Correct me if I'm wrong, but with your initial reaction, wasn't the response quite a bit faster, with less colloidal silver used to induce your upset stomach? If so, this matches a herxheimer-like effect. If I were in a similiar situation, and wished to approach it with due caution ( being in the unknown ), then I would elect to design a personal research experiment, and back off of taking the colloidal silver until the symptoms subside, and then begin again, charting my body's own responses; that is, as long as I wasn't attempting to address a serious illness. I would make note of the duration of symptoms, how long they took to manifest, how much CS was used, and then how long it took for the symptoms to subside after cessation. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: filip.hoe...@pandora.be To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:36 AM Subject: CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me? Dear CS-community, Sorry if my post()s is/are elaborate, but I really want to find a solution to my problem and I try to give as much as context as possible. As I stated some time ago, I became sick for about 1,5 week (having a need-to-throw-up feeling) after taking 3 coffee-spoons of self-made CS. See: RE: CSStomach-problems when using CS? in the archives. As I feared I had poisoned myself, I had a stomach check (with a camera through the mouth into the stomach), a blood and urine check after 1 week of being sick, everything was ok according to the doctors. Only a minor irritation/infection in my stomach, but that was very normal and could be viral. Half a week later everything was back to normal. Two weeks later, I wanted to give making CS by myself another try. This time I used 2 silver electrodes that I ordered from a jeweler that made it from 99,9% silver grains that he uses for making jewelery. I expressed my reason for needing to be sure it is 99,9% pure. After using it for about 4 days now, just spraying it in my nose (2 times a day, 3 sprays in each nostril), I'm feeling ill in my stomach again and again waking up in the middle of the night with a need-to-throw-up feeling. As I don't think it's the silver (as I got the same result from 2 different suppliers) I could only think: * it is the destilled water that I use, although it comes from a pharmacy store. * I'm allergic to silver, although I don't have any problems with wearing my silver ring. * I have some kind of infection that I don't even know about or my nasal problem is connected with my stomach as someone mentioned to me. * it's a normal reaction (e.g.: Herxheimer reaction): the feeling I experience is need-to-throw-up (without having thrown up), waking up in the middle of the night with that feeling and a strange, weak, almost tinteling sensation in my arms. I've read alot about CS at alot of different websites, but I cannot find anything about this kind of reaction. I truly believe that CS works, but why doesn't it do the wonderful thing to me? PS: As i currently use 24V DC adaptor on 2 (125mm long, 2mm thick) 99,9% silver electrodes for 15 minutes in 500 ml of boiled distilled water, I have no way of knowing how much ppm I produced. I only know it was both times clear not yellow. The + electrode (red on the multimeter) became dirty gray and the - electrode (black on the multimeter) became yellow. I think I read somewhere that it should be vica versa. Kind regards, Filip
Re: CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
Filip, I doubt very much if a jeweler is using .999 pure silver wire for jewelry...it's too soft. A friend of mine who is a jewelry maker uses sterling silver wire. Which is what I bet you are trying to make CS with. This is probably at least part of your problem, as sterling silver contains some copper and, probably nickel. I don't know what you are making, but please try some wire from https://secure2.websitecomplete.com/acbel/shop/showProd.asp?prod=13 paula - Original Message - From: filip.hoe...@pandora.be Sorry if my post()s is/are elaborate, but I really want to find a solution to my problem and I try to give as much as context as possible. Two weeks later, I wanted to give making CS by myself another try. This time I used 2 silver electrodes that I ordered from a jeweler that made it from 99,9% silver grains that he uses for making jewelery. I expressed my reason for needing to be sure it is 99,9% pure.
Re: CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
Hi Paula, The first time, I bought the wire from a website of an acupuncturist in the Netherlands. Because I had that reaction, I was uncertain about the silver wire, although he says he sells it alot with no problems and that he gets it from a trustworthy source. Therefor, I bought the wire that I used the last time from a jeweler who makes his own jewelry. He says it is 99,9% silver as he buys it like that in the form of grains that he later on mixes with other metals to make the jewelry. Again, I do not know this person and if he is telling the truth, altough I urged him that the purity is more my concern, not merely its worth/value in money as I am using it for medical intake. In both cases, it is the problem that there is no way of checking it and it is a matter of trust, just like you trust https://secure2.websitecomplete.com/acbel/shop/showProd.asp?prod=13 to be selling 99,9% silver. I am willing to give CS a try, but the problem is that I have been feeling ill from it for the second time while I was not sick at all before (except from a chronic nose-cold that I am used to and at the moment isn't bothering me). I'm afraid that waiting for 2 weeks now to feel better again from the CS reaction and trying it again will result in the same reaction and I may be causing some other illness that cannot be cured or so... Kind regards, Filip - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: CSWhy, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me? Filip, I doubt very much if a jeweler is using .999 pure silver wire for jewelry...it's too soft. A friend of mine who is a jewelry maker uses sterling silver wire. Which is what I bet you are trying to make CS with. This is probably at least part of your problem, as sterling silver contains some copper and, probably nickel. I don't know what you are making, but please try some wire from https://secure2.websitecomplete.com/acbel/shop/showProd.asp?prod=13 paula - Original Message - From: filip.hoe...@pandora.be Sorry if my post()s is/are elaborate, but I really want to find a solution to my problem and I try to give as much as context as possible. Two weeks later, I wanted to give making CS by myself another try. This time I used 2 silver electrodes that I ordered from a jeweler that made it from 99,9% silver grains that he uses for making jewelery. I expressed my reason for needing to be sure it is 99,9% pure.
