CSaltcancer.com Again

2003-12-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

List,

I found this post about altcancer.com:

http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610

Note at bottom the link to an FDA site.

Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen.   Cansema does 
indeed produce scary-looking results,  but the healing proceeds slowly 
and without infection.   My guess is that the woman who claims to have 
lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a 
white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction 
job.


Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will 
tell.


The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon;  it would be 
interesting to find out the basis of this charge.   Without any 
information about the facts,  the insinuation is that the man is a 
habitual criminal.  I very much doubt that.


I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close 
scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case.   
Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com 
 archives on his fine site.


I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega;  there has been no 
positive news yet.





JBB



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Re: CSaltcancer.com Again

2003-12-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

List,

In re-reading my own message,  minutes after writing it,  I think that 
my speculations are inappropriate.


As I know nothing about the details of the claims of the alleged victim 
of Cansema,  it is wrong of me to put my suspicions in writing.   
Apologies for that.   Conceivably the case is legitimate, though 
obviously I have my doubts.


In any event,  my speculations were not appropriate,  and I should not 
have said anything at all about the person who allegedly made the 
allegations,  nor about whomever may have provided medical treatment 
for the alleged damage. I simply do not have enough information.


Insufficient information is, of course,  is a major problem with the 
posting to which I have provided a link.  It is an unbalanced attack 
with inadequate support.


The link itself is all I should have posted,  and left members to draw 
their own conclusions.   All the same,  I hope that someone on the list 
may be able to provide more information about the ongoing proceedings 
against a company that, I believe,  provides effective,  low-cost,  
products that really work.


Cheers,


JBB



On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:17 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten 
wrote:



List,

I found this post about altcancer.com:

http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610

Note at bottom the link to an FDA site.

Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen.   Cansema does 
indeed produce scary-looking results,  but the healing proceeds slowly 
and without infection.   My guess is that the woman who claims to have 
lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a 
white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction 
job.


Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time 
will tell.


The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon;  it would be 
interesting to find out the basis of this charge.   Without any 
information about the facts,  the insinuation is that the man is a 
habitual criminal.  I very much doubt that.


I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close 
scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case.  
 Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless 
altcancer.com  archives on his fine site.


I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega;  there has been no 
positive news yet.





JBB



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Re: CSaltcancer.com Again

2003-12-16 Thread Jason Eaton
Hi Jonathan:

I'm certainly sorry to see the bad publicity against Alpha Omega Labs.

I'm sorry that the lady in question did not follow the explicit advice on
how to approach using cansema.  Greg has always emphatically asked people to
get a diagnosis before using Cansema, from a licensed medical doctor.  You
can't tell before hand, just by looking at the skin, how deep any cancer is.
I imagine the lady's story is true.

Any such product should be used by those who read carefully, and understand
its action.  The same could be said about bleach, or any household cleaner,
or electrical outlets.  Most common things, people have been taught how to
use since childhood.

However, when the media gets ahold of something...

As an example, many people do not know that you can kill yourself with
magnets you can purchase for magnet therapy.  One day, the powers that be
shall endevour an assault against this industry, and the people will be
shocked at the death and pain caused by common health magnets.

This doesn't make magnet therapy bad or wrong, it's just like everything
else:  Resources need to be made available for accurate and extensive
information, and this needs to be approached from a nuetral standpoint:
Both financially and politically.

Another example is the numerous people who die from overuse of herbal
tinctures and pill supplements, which can, with abuse, knock out the liver
in short order.

As far as the lady is concerned, if she read the instructions, she would
have noticed the very serious warning to NOT use Cansema near ANY mucus
membrane without the assistance of a licensed doctor; it could have done
more than it did, it could have killed her.

Their H3O contains HCL ( so do many FDA approved drugs ); HRX contains
Potassium Hydroxide.  Both need to be used with understanding, and both are
extremely excellent products.

There's always a catch 22 with taking personal responsibility for life, and
making this available for other people so that they too may have a chance to
benefit from real knowledge.  There are always issues involved warranting
serious consideration.

Best Regards,

Jason R. Eaton


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: CSaltcancer.com Again


 List,

 I found this post about altcancer.com:

 http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610

 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site.

 Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen.   Cansema does
 indeed produce scary-looking results,  but the healing proceeds slowly
 and without infection.   My guess is that the woman who claims to have
 lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a
 white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction
 job.

 Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will
 tell.

 The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon;  it would be
 interesting to find out the basis of this charge.   Without any
 information about the facts,  the insinuation is that the man is a
 habitual criminal.  I very much doubt that.

 I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close
 scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case.
 Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com
   archives on his fine site.

 I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega;  there has been no
 positive news yet.




 JBB



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Re: CSaltcancer.com Again

2003-12-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Hi, Jason,

Well said and well balanced.

Glad I caught myself regarding the claims;  indeed,  it is hard to say 
whether she had much damage or not.   Unlike the testimonials on 
altcancer.com,  this posting had no images to substantiate the claims.



Cansema IS very powerful,  and must be used with care.  As you said, 
Greg Caton made explicit warnings about this;  anyone not seeking MD 
supervision was doing so at his or her own risk.


All the same,  I hope Cansema will continue to be available as I have 
no doubt it is superb product.



JBB





On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 12:54 Asia/Tokyo, Jason Eaton wrote:


Hi Jonathan:

I'm certainly sorry to see the bad publicity against Alpha Omega Labs.

I'm sorry that the lady in question did not follow the explicit advice 
on
how to approach using cansema.  Greg has always emphatically asked 
people to
get a diagnosis before using Cansema, from a licensed medical doctor.  
You
can't tell before hand, just by looking at the skin, how deep any 
cancer is.

I imagine the lady's story is true.

Any such product should be used by those who read carefully, and 
understand
its action.  The same could be said about bleach, or any household 
cleaner,
or electrical outlets.  Most common things, people have been taught 
how to

use since childhood.

However, when the media gets ahold of something...

As an example, many people do not know that you can kill yourself with
magnets you can purchase for magnet therapy.  One day, the powers 
that be

shall endevour an assault against this industry, and the people will be
shocked at the death and pain caused by common health magnets.

This doesn't make magnet therapy bad or wrong, it's just like 
everything

else:  Resources need to be made available for accurate and extensive
information, and this needs to be approached from a nuetral standpoint:
Both financially and politically.

Another example is the numerous people who die from overuse of herbal
tinctures and pill supplements, which can, with abuse, knock out the 
liver

in short order.

As far as the lady is concerned, if she read the instructions, she 
would

have noticed the very serious warning to NOT use Cansema near ANY mucus
membrane without the assistance of a licensed doctor; it could have 
done

more than it did, it could have killed her.

Their H3O contains HCL ( so do many FDA approved drugs ); HRX contains
Potassium Hydroxide.  Both need to be used with understanding, and 
both are

extremely excellent products.

There's always a catch 22 with taking personal responsibility for 
life, and
making this available for other people so that they too may have a 
chance to
benefit from real knowledge.  There are always issues involved 
warranting

serious consideration.

Best Regards,

Jason R. Eaton


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: CSaltcancer.com Again



List,

I found this post about altcancer.com:

http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610

Note at bottom the link to an FDA site.

Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen.   Cansema does
indeed produce scary-looking results,  but the healing proceeds slowly
and without infection.   My guess is that the woman who claims to have
lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a
white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction
job.

Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time 
will

tell.

The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon;  it would be
interesting to find out the basis of this charge.   Without any
information about the facts,  the insinuation is that the man is a
habitual criminal.  I very much doubt that.

I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close
scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case.
Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless 
altcancer.com

  archives on his fine site.

I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega;  there has been no
positive news yet.




JBB



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