Re: CScd

2005-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
How did you administer it?  I beliwve that tetrasil is insoluable and stable,
and thus if taken by mouth will not make it to the blood. The only shot at
gettting anything in the blood is most likely by IV.

Marshall

oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:

 Hi,

 The FDA has lost all credibility with me.  I no longer listen to anything
 they have to say or believe they are working for our benefit.  Corrupt to
 the core!

 I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of my Mother's
 shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere days.  I wasn't
 impressed.

 Jean

 **

  serious dangers of acitamenophen,  but have refused
  to take any action to notify consumers.   (By their rules, combining
  the substances is illegal,  even though the manufacturer has an
  unused patent for that very combination.)  I think, though, they
  may finally be bowing to growing consumer anger over their practices;
  just today they announce new labeling requirements for some of their
  approved heart-attack inducing drugs.   Much too little much too late;

 
 
 

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Re: CScd

2005-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Myabe their original tests were run with tetrasil that was contaminated
with ionic or colloidal silver.  I have wondered how a stable compound
of silver that is completely insoluble could be very effective.

Marshall

marmar...@aol.com wrote:

  In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:51:06 AM Central Standard Time,
 oldgl...@bigcountry.net writes:

  I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of
  my Mother's
  shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere
  days.  I wasn't
  impressed.

 I bought it for fungal toenails and had the same results. MA


Re: CScd

2005-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
What is the supplement?

Marshall

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 The first and last sentence seem to describe very well much of the
 behavior of the FDA.  I was reading in Life Extension magazine today
 that the FDA has known for years that a simple nutritional supplement
 could eliminate the serious dangers of acitamenophen,  but have refused
 to take any action to notify consumers.   (By their rules, combining
 the substances is illegal,  even though the manufacturer has an
 unused patent for that very combination.)  I think, though, they
 may finally be bowing to growing consumer anger over their practices;
 just today they announce new labeling requirements for some of their
 approved heart-attack inducing drugs.   Much too little much too late;
 LE foundation seems to be the best source for the lowdown on FDA
 corruption, and one's annual membership supports research and
 investigation.I do recommend the group highly.   I wonder whether
 they have ever investigated EIS?

 On Saturday, Apr 9, 2005, at 22:09 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:

 Sounds like they might have hurt [killed?] someone and need to
  re-examine their procedure.
 
  ...Maybe not so much for the silver itself, but the manner of
  injecting it all in one large volume dose?
   Could have been a major herx or mega blood PH change or something.
 
  The first normal reaction after such an event is to slam all doors
  shut and say nothing to anyone.
 
  Ode
 
  At 10:27 AM 4/8/2005 -0400, you wrote:
  
 
  Ode, what do ya think??  Did you read all this??   davido
 
 
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CScd

2005-04-11 Thread Matthew McCann
Hello, Marshall,

I think tetrasilver tetroxide is soluble in water. I got a
one pint bottle of SilSpa, the hot tub disinfectant, and
found it to be (probably) a saturated aqueous solution
of Ag4o4. The label describes it as 1.0% Silver Oxide II
and 99.0% other ingredients (which may be just water,
but I am not sure.) The label reads further that the one
pint consists of 1.33 ounce silver oxide II, equivalent to
1.16 ounce silver as elemental per gallon.
The pint of Silspa has a thick sediment of grayish black
Ag4o4 and a supernatant liquid that looks grayish with
reflected light and amber in transmitted light. I think the
supernatant liquid is an aqueous solution of Ag4o4 in
equilibrium with the Ag4o4 sediment.

The label gives an FDA-type warning not to use SilSpa
except for its intended purpose (i.e. as a bathing water
disinfectant.)

A caution: I may be totally wrong about other ingredients
being only water. The label contains strong warnings
and first aid instructions if SilSpa is misused. Does
anybody know anything further about this product?

Matthew

Re: CScd

2005-04-11 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Co-Q 10.

JBB



On Monday, Apr 11, 2005, at 23:32 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:


What is the supplement?

Marshall

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:


The first and last sentence seem to describe very well much of the
behavior of the FDA.  I was reading in Life Extension magazine today
that the FDA has known for years that a simple nutritional supplement
could eliminate the serious dangers of acitamenophen,  but have 
refused

,



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RE: CScd

2005-04-11 Thread Jim Holmes
Long term oral use of CS had, for many people, eliminated the occurrence of
the lesions altogether. 


-Original Message-
From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScd

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:50:28 -0500, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:

I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of my Mother's
shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere days.  I wasn't
impressed.

Jean


Interesting.  My brother has genital herpes and (according to him, I didn't
actually monitor the process ;^0 )Tetrasil has totally prevented several
outbreaks when 
applied as soon as the itching, etc is noticed.  The single minor outbreak
he suffered was eliminated in only two applications with several followups
for good 
measure.  This was accompanied with massive (2 - 3 quarts daily) oral
infusions of cs/gatorade.

George







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Re: CScd

2005-04-10 Thread Leonardo van Goens

How's that for speaking one's mind?
If we have the guts to investigate sayings by the BIG ones, then we'd 
probably also and amongst other things know that a treatment, resulting in 
the cure of cancer (even pap 5) was already known by the Indians in the 
Amazon region {[(AND by the FDA)]}.
BUT: the BIG ones kept it a secret for more than 30 years, until one 
forum like ours published the results of research by a handful of less 
rigid, limitid go-for-bigmoney-boys medics. That may be a turning point.
BUT: Far too many of us are still the mouthless sheepishly yesdoc nodoc 
okayifyousaydoc patients.
Alas! It takes hair on one's balls (as they say in Surinam) to stand up 
against these know-it-all money makers.

Love ya all
Faith


From: Stuff st...@laguna.com.mx
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScd
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:37:04 -0500


The FDA is just one of that whole bad batch of alphabet soup.

No power based institution has any credibility with me.

stuff

At 08:50 AM 4/9/2005, Jean wrote:


Hi,

The FDA has lost all credibility with me.  I no longer listen to anything
they have to say or believe they are working for our benefit.  Corrupt to
the core!



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CSRe: Cancer could have been cured as much as 30 years ago! CScd

2005-04-10 Thread Leonardo van Goens

How's that for speaking one's mind?
If we have the guts to investigate sayings by the BIG ones, then we'd 
probably also and amongst other things know that a treatment, resulting in 
the cure of cancer (even pap 5) was already known by the Indians in the 
Amazon region {[(AND by the FDA)]}.
BUT: the BIG ones kept it a secret for more than 30 years, until one 
forum like ours published the results of research by a handful of less 
rigid, limitid go-for-bigmoney-boys medics. That may be a turning point.
BUT: Far too many of us are still the mouthless sheepishly yesdoc nodoc 
okayifyousaydoc patients.
Alas! It takes hair on one's balls (as they say in Surinam) to stand up 
against these know-it-all money makers.

Love ya all
Faith


From: Stuff st...@laguna.com.mx
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScd
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:37:04 -0500


The FDA is just one of that whole bad batch of alphabet soup.

No power based institution has any credibility with me.

stuff

At 08:50 AM 4/9/2005, Jean wrote:


Hi,

The FDA has lost all credibility with me.  I no longer listen to anything
they have to say or believe they are working for our benefit.  Corrupt to
the core!



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Re: CScd

2005-04-09 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
The first and last sentence seem to describe very well much of the  
behavior of the FDA.  I was reading in Life Extension magazine today  
that the FDA has known for years that a simple nutritional supplement  
could eliminate the serious dangers of acitamenophen,  but have refused  
to take any action to notify consumers.   (By their rules, combining  
the substances is illegal,  even though the manufacturer has an  
unused patent for that very combination.)  I think, though, they  
may finally be bowing to growing consumer anger over their practices;   
just today they announce new labeling requirements for some of their  
approved heart-attack inducing drugs.   Much too little much too late;   
LE foundation seems to be the best source for the lowdown on FDA  
corruption, and one's annual membership supports research and  
investigation.I do recommend the group highly.   I wonder whether  
they have ever investigated EIS?



On Saturday, Apr 9, 2005, at 22:09 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:

   Sounds like they might have hurt [killed?] someone and need to  
re-examine their procedure.


...Maybe not so much for the silver itself, but the manner of  
injecting it all in one large volume dose?

 Could have been a major herx or mega blood PH change or something.

The first normal reaction after such an event is to slam all doors  
shut and say nothing to anyone.


Ode

At 10:27 AM 4/8/2005 -0400, you wrote:



Ode, what do ya think??  Did you read all this??   davido


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Re: CScd

2005-04-09 Thread Ode Coyote
   Sounds like they might have hurt [killed?] someone and need to re-examine their procedure.


...Maybe not so much for the silver itself, but the manner of injecting it all in one large volume dose? 
Could have been a major herx or mega blood PH change or something.

The first normal reaction after such an event is to slam all doors shut and say nothing to anyone.

Ode

At 10:27 AM 4/8/2005 -0400, you wrote: 

Ode, what do ya think??  Did you read all this??   davido




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CScd

2005-04-09 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi,

The FDA has lost all credibility with me.  I no longer listen to anything
they have to say or believe they are working for our benefit.  Corrupt to
the core!

I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of my Mother's
shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere days.  I wasn't
impressed.

Jean

**

 serious dangers of acitamenophen,  but have refused
 to take any action to notify consumers.   (By their rules, combining
 the substances is illegal,  even though the manufacturer has an
 unused patent for that very combination.)  I think, though, they
 may finally be bowing to growing consumer anger over their practices;
 just today they announce new labeling requirements for some of their
 approved heart-attack inducing drugs.   Much too little much too late;

 
 



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Re: CScd

2005-04-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:51:06 AM Central Standard Time, 
oldgl...@bigcountry.net writes:
I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of my Mother's
shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere days.  I wasn't
impressed.
I bought it for fungal toenails and had the same results. MA


Re: CScd

2005-04-09 Thread Stuff


The FDA is just one of that whole bad batch of alphabet soup.

No power based institution has any credibility with me.

stuff

At 08:50 AM 4/9/2005, Jean wrote:


Hi,

The FDA has lost all credibility with me.  I no longer listen to anything
they have to say or believe they are working for our benefit.  Corrupt to
the core!



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Re: CScd

2005-04-09 Thread George
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:50:28 -0500, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:

I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of my Mother's
shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere days.  I wasn't
impressed.

Jean


Interesting.  My brother has genital herpes and (according to him, I didn't 
actually monitor the process ;^0 )Tetrasil has totally prevented several 
outbreaks when 
applied as soon as the itching, etc is noticed.  The single minor outbreak he 
suffered was eliminated in only two applications with several followups for 
good 
measure.  This was accompanied with massive (2 - 3 quarts daily) oral infusions 
of cs/gatorade.

George







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Re: CScd

2005-04-09 Thread William Missett
I would bet the CS did the most healing ..

- Original Message - 
From: George in...@dragonbyte.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: CScd


| On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:50:28 -0500, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:
|
| I bought some Tetrasil and didn't see a miraculous cure of my Mother's
| shingles.  The insert said shingles would respond in mere days.  I wasn't
| impressed.
| 
| Jean
| 
|
| Interesting.  My brother has genital herpes and (according to him, I
didn't actually monitor the process ;^0 )Tetrasil has totally prevented
several outbreaks when
| applied as soon as the itching, etc is noticed.  The single minor outbreak
he suffered was eliminated in only two applications with several followups
for good
| measure.  This was accompanied with massive (2 - 3 quarts daily) oral
infusions of cs/gatorade.
|
| George
|
|
|
|
|
|
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CScd

2005-04-08 Thread David S Osborne
Ode, what do ya think??  Did you read all this??   davido


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/1/prweb32492.php

Re: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units

2002-04-14 Thread Alan Ettenberg

- Original Message -
From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units



 On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Solar wrote:

  Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
  produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
  MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
  compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
  highly tuned formula 1 racer.

 Great, thanks that really narrows it down.  I was a little suspect when
 he said the final product turned a fine yellow after a bit of storage
 time.

 Does anyone (including you  Solar) have a recommendation for the
 ***ULTIMATE CS PRODUCTION UNIT***?  It's not easy to get things through
 customs here, usually involves bribes or know-who.  I'll be able to pull
 this off one time for sure but other timesmaybe, so since I'm
 looking at making it for family, friends and patients what is a good
 unit for doing it in quantity?  Then again, I could probably use this
 unit and pump out 8 gal / day so that could get me through the first 6
 months or so.

 Anyway... what's the best people?  Thanks again for all the advice.

 Gary.



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 We have an excellent cs machine which we manufacture  sell for $119.95.
We have a doctor bringing it to Europe to begin distribution there as well.
The unit makes up to 2 qts @ a time of great quality cs.
Alan


CSCD Mfgr'ing Units

2002-04-13 Thread Gary Green


On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Solar wrote:


Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
highly tuned formula 1 racer.


Great, thanks that really narrows it down.  I was a little suspect when 
he said the final product turned a fine yellow after a bit of storage 
time.


Does anyone (including you  Solar) have a recommendation for the 
***ULTIMATE CS PRODUCTION UNIT***?  It's not easy to get things through 
customs here, usually involves bribes or know-who.  I'll be able to pull 
this off one time for sure but other timesmaybe, so since I'm 
looking at making it for family, friends and patients what is a good 
unit for doing it in quantity?  Then again, I could probably use this 
unit and pump out 8 gal / day so that could get me through the first 6 
months or so.


Anyway... what's the best people?  Thanks again for all the advice.

Gary.



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Re: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units

2002-04-13 Thread AVRA / Jason
Gary:

The SG-7 Pro unit can produce five gallons of 5 ppm per hour ( 10 PPM in two
hours, etc. ).  For high capacity brewing, I haven't seen a unit that comes
close.  The price tag is well worth the end product, in terms of real value.

You'll notice that other high capacity unit manufacturer's are usually AC
high voltage machines, and you won't see them displaying a micrograph of the
end product showing dispersion as compared to lab quality silvers or lower
current machines.  That's because those micrographs are attrocious.  Limits
of TEM aside, an equal comparison is still a valid comparison.

Jason

- Original Message -
From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units



 On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Solar wrote:

  Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
  produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
  MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
  compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
  highly tuned formula 1 racer.

 Great, thanks that really narrows it down.  I was a little suspect when
 he said the final product turned a fine yellow after a bit of storage
 time.

 Does anyone (including you  Solar) have a recommendation for the
 ***ULTIMATE CS PRODUCTION UNIT***?  It's not easy to get things through
 customs here, usually involves bribes or know-who.  I'll be able to pull
 this off one time for sure but other timesmaybe, so since I'm
 looking at making it for family, friends and patients what is a good
 unit for doing it in quantity?  Then again, I could probably use this
 unit and pump out 8 gal / day so that could get me through the first 6
 months or so.

 Anyway... what's the best people?  Thanks again for all the advice.

 Gary.



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Re: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units

2002-04-13 Thread Ronen Yehiav
  Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
  produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
  MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
  compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
  highly tuned formula 1 racer.

What is SG-7?
Any URL?

Thank you.
Ronen.


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Re: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units

2002-04-13 Thread John A. Stanley
In article 09d301c1e311$b18d6f30$0101c...@ronen,
Ronen Yehiav y...@bezeqint.net wrote:
  Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
  produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
  MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
  compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
  highly tuned formula 1 racer.

What is SG-7?
Any URL?

http://www.silvergen.com/

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Re: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units

2002-04-13 Thread Ronen Yehiav
OK - Where I find it, the price, the micrograph, etc???
Ronen.

- Original Message -
From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units


 Gary:

 The SG-7 Pro unit can produce five gallons of 5 ppm per hour ( 10 PPM in
two
 hours, etc. ).  For high capacity brewing, I haven't seen a unit that
comes
 close.  The price tag is well worth the end product, in terms of real
value.

 You'll notice that other high capacity unit manufacturer's are usually AC
 high voltage machines, and you won't see them displaying a micrograph of
the
 end product showing dispersion as compared to lab quality silvers or
lower
 current machines.  That's because those micrographs are attrocious.
Limits
 of TEM aside, an equal comparison is still a valid comparison.

 Jason

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:03 AM
 Subject: CSCD Mfgr'ing Units


 
  On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Solar wrote:
 
   Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
   produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
   MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
   compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
   highly tuned formula 1 racer.
 
  Great, thanks that really narrows it down.  I was a little suspect when
  he said the final product turned a fine yellow after a bit of storage
  time.
 
  Does anyone (including you  Solar) have a recommendation for the
  ***ULTIMATE CS PRODUCTION UNIT***?  It's not easy to get things through
  customs here, usually involves bribes or know-who.  I'll be able to pull
  this off one time for sure but other timesmaybe, so since I'm
  looking at making it for family, friends and patients what is a good
  unit for doing it in quantity?  Then again, I could probably use this
  unit and pump out 8 gal / day so that could get me through the first 6
  months or so.
 
  Anyway... what's the best people?  Thanks again for all the advice.
 
  Gary.



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