Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
on 9/9/03 10:28 PM, Jason Eaton at ey...@cox.net wrote: Can you tell me if c/s raises the cholestrol(bad) level? mary ? Bill: I don't think you should use the word Meso associated with your products. They hardly compare, especially since MesoSilver is a registered trademark. Further, you may want to consider informing your customer base that you no longer carry Mesosilver... Since I'm already informing them, some of which still thought they were buying Meso-products when ordering from you. Best Regards, Jason silvermedicine.org For the last 2 years I have taken about 2 tsp of very small particle, low ionic colloidal silver (listers would know this as the meso type cs.) Bill
CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
Morning Langsley, It appears you tried hard and did the best you could with the tools available. I like your mind set and approach. Still, I wonder how close this comes to the effect of CS in the human body, for many reasons. Why not use yourself for a guinea pig? I do it all the time and many others do also. I take probiotics and amino acids much more often that I drink 16 or 32 ounces of CS. While I use CS regularily, I don't hit the 16 and 32 ounce level unless I have a fever or a suspected infection. At this time, I certainly don't worry about killing off a few friendly bacteria. I am more concerned about the unfriendly ones. Of course all my friends who go to the doctor and take antibiotics for a week or ten days likely kill millions of their friendly bacteria. I have never noticed any ill effect or digestive problems from CS use. Wayne
Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
Hi Wayne.
You said,
Why not use yourself for a guinea pig? I do it all the time and many
others do also.
I guess I could say I already do. I too take both probiotics and CS on a
daily basis. I make no efforts to separate the ingestion of one from the
ingestion of the other beyond natural daily routine. I experience no
adverse digestive effects as a result. However I don't believe that will
prove anything other than the fact that I don't have digestive problems.
I too do not consume anything approaching 32 ounces of CS in a day. It
is more like 4 ounces daily, occasionally as much as eight ounces. When
I first started taking CS I noticed some mild stomach pain following the
ingestion of the CS. I backed off some, then over time, I increased my
consumption. I don't consider that to be proof of anything other than
the fact that I did experience some passing pain. This may or may not
have been directly related to my ingestion of CS. Granted it appears
that way on the surface but in my view, that hardly constitutes credible
evidence that CS had any effect on my intestinal flora.
I do give a lot of credibility to anecdotal evidence. I believe its
value though depends largely on numbers. I believe that anecdotal
evidence becomes what I consider to be empirical evidence only after a
sufficient quantity of supporting anecdotal evidence has been amassed.
Thanks for your feedback. I intend to put my experiments up on our
website. In doing so I will be sure to include the anecdotal evidence of
my own experience as well as that provided by other CS users like you.
LTR }}:{(
Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
I found if I take 8 ounces of 10 ppm every 4 hours for 7 days it will kill my intestinal flora as evidenced by diarhea. Quickly repaired by eating yoghurt. At 12:14 PM 8/9/03, you wrote: Hi Wayne. You said, Why not use yourself for a guinea pig? I do it all the time and many others do also. I guess I could say I already do. I too take both probiotics and CS on a daily basis. I make no efforts to separate the ingestion of one from the ingestion of the other beyond natural daily routine. I experience no adverse digestive effects as a result. However I don't believe that will prove anything other than the fact that I don't have digestive problems. +- Bentonite Clay for sale-+ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/davebe/clay.html ¦ David Bearrow ¦ ¦ dav...@sbcglobal.net ¦ + Phone: (972)722-8319 + -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
I too have used myself as a guinea pig with colloidal silver and for almost 5
years. For the last 2 years I have taken about 2 tsp of very small particle,
low ionic colloidal silver (listers would know this as the meso type cs.) If
I take as much as a tbsp when mold tries to get me in the bronchial, I get a
clean out of the colon(diarrhea). When I hear of the megadoses some people take
and get no diarrhea, I have to ask about the effectiveness of the products used
since it is obvious to me that effective cs will kill flora in the lower gi
track. If I take 2 oz or so of this 20 ppm product, it will not only clean me
out but the resulting feces is odorless. I don't take any acidophilus though my
wife does on occasion. I have found the flora returns quickly on its own. Yeast
wouldn't DARE come to replace it as this stuff is lethal to it as well.
Bill
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From: Langsley T Russell
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
Hi Wayne.
You said,
Why not use yourself for a guinea pig? I do it all the time and many
others do also.
I guess I could say I already do. I too take both probiotics and CS on a
daily basis. I make no efforts to separate the ingestion of one from the
ingestion of the other beyond natural daily routine. I experience no adverse
digestive effects as a result. However I don't believe that will prove anything
other than the fact that I don't have digestive problems.
I too do not consume anything approaching 32 ounces of CS in a day. It is
more like 4 ounces daily, occasionally as much as eight ounces. When I first
started taking CS I noticed some mild stomach pain following the ingestion of
the CS. I backed off some, then over time, I increased my consumption. I don't
consider that to be proof of anything other than the fact that I did experience
some passing pain. This may or may not have been directly related to my
ingestion of CS. Granted it appears that way on the surface but in my view,
that hardly constitutes credible evidence that CS had any effect on my
intestinal flora.
I do give a lot of credibility to anecdotal evidence. I believe its value
though depends largely on numbers. I believe that anecdotal evidence becomes
what I consider to be empirical evidence only after a sufficient quantity of
supporting anecdotal evidence has been amassed.
Thanks for your feedback. I intend to put my experiments up on our website.
In doing so I will be sure to include the anecdotal evidence of my own
experience as well as that provided by other CS users like you.
LTR }}:{(
Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
I understand that if silver is not well absorbed it will get to the bowel and kill bowel organisms. So, unless you really want it to get as far as the lower bowel, doesn't it make more sense to simply use a type that is better absorbed? Duncan Crow I too have used myself as a guinea pig with colloidal silver and for almost 5 years. For the last 2 years I have taken about 2 tsp of very small particle, low ionic colloidal silver (listers would know this as the meso type cs.) If I take as much as a tbsp when mold tries to get me in the bronchial, I get a clean out of the colon(diarrhea). When I hear of the megadoses some people take and get no diarrhea, I have to ask about the effectiveness of the products used since it is obvious to me that effective cs will kill flora in the lower gi track. If I take 2 oz or so of this 20 ppm product, it will not only clean me out but the resulting feces is odorless. I don't take any acidophilus though my wife does on occasion. I have found the flora returns quickly on its own. Yeast wouldn't DARE come to replace it as this stuff is lethal to it as well. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnegative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
Bill: I don't think you should use the word Meso associated with your products. They hardly compare, especially since MesoSilver is a registered trademark. Further, you may want to consider informing your customer base that you no longer carry Mesosilver... Since I'm already informing them, some of which still thought they were buying Meso-products when ordering from you. Best Regards, Jason silvermedicine.org For the last 2 years I have taken about 2 tsp of very small particle, low ionic colloidal silver (listers would know this as the meso type cs.) Bill
