Re: CS>Can CS Make Me Sick?-candida test
I've tried detoxing twice with different two different protocols and have gotten terribly sick. The last time I went to the chiropractor I am using for the last detox I had the ear infection that was terrible. He gave me fungus drops, which I didn't use immediately. I had gone to the MD doctor and gotten antibiotic drops which I did use. She also gave me pain drops and oral antibiotics which I didn't use. My ear is better but not fixed. I started using the fungal drops in the ear and orally and it seems to be getting some better. From reading your posts I'm wondering if my problem is fungal and the die off is also to fast for me to tolerate. I promised the chiropractor (he called) to come in again because I had quit the protocol due to not being able to breath and coughing like my insides were coming up. This gives me hope that if it is fungal maybe I can get well if we address this. I really am thankful for this group. Dianne - Original Message - From: Clayton Family<mailto:clay...@skypoint.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: Re: CS>Can CS Make Me Sick?-candida test Ah... Dr Crook was a colleague and friend of my allergist, that diagnosed me with fungal sinus infection and candida. I saw him talk at a conference once. My problem with all this is: there are many many kinds of fungus, and they mostly get lumped into the same bag as candida. While I did have candida, the bigger problem was aspergillus, and probably other fungi as well. This I inferred from allergy skin tests and allergy blood tests. While the treatment is similar, the die off is much more severe. I had to be extremely careful of my body so I survived the treatment. And even though the doc gave me the correct dx, within reason, he had NO clue how sick I really was. After going through his skin and blood testing the first time, I was sick in bed with fungally induced flu symptoms (infection) for about 4 days. I had told him how extremely sensitive I was, and he tried to be careful to use very weak extracts to test me, but and even if I wanted to take something like this program, I could not, as I was allergic to most of the components. I had to work with my chiropractor, and then look online for substitutes I could use. thanks for the explanation. On Oct 24, 2007, at 5:40 AM, m1mar...@aol.com<mailto:m1mar...@aol.com> wrote: > > http://www.candidasupport.org/candidatests.html<http://www.candidasupport.org/candidatests.html> > > > > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org<http://silverlist.org/> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>>
Re: CS>Can CS Make Me Sick?-candida test
Ah... Dr Crook was a colleague and friend of my allergist, that diagnosed me with fungal sinus infection and candida. I saw him talk at a conference once. My problem with all this is: there are many many kinds of fungus, and they mostly get lumped into the same bag as candida. While I did have candida, the bigger problem was aspergillus, and probably other fungi as well. This I inferred from allergy skin tests and allergy blood tests. While the treatment is similar, the die off is much more severe. I had to be extremely careful of my body so I survived the treatment. And even though the doc gave me the correct dx, within reason, he had NO clue how sick I really was. After going through his skin and blood testing the first time, I was sick in bed with fungally induced flu symptoms (infection) for about 4 days. I had told him how extremely sensitive I was, and he tried to be careful to use very weak extracts to test me, but and even if I wanted to take something like this program, I could not, as I was allergic to most of the components. I had to work with my chiropractor, and then look online for substitutes I could use. thanks for the explanation. On Oct 24, 2007, at 5:40 AM, m1mar...@aol.com wrote: http://www.candidasupport.org/candidatests.html See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Re: CS>Can CS Make Me Sick?-candida test
you betcha. Now I am wondering if the blood test was an allergy type of blood test. A Rast, or Elisa, or what. That would typically test for a whole bunch of stuff. I had some of those run, which told me what I already knew, except the species of molds. Some of the tests that have been developed are worthless, and a waste of money- like the quick test for mono. It has false results more often than not, and in previous years, it might not have been embraced by the medical community riddled with errors like it is, esp when there is a REAL test, which works very well. It is just a matter of making money, imho. I think after a person has had an illness that there is no real cure for (in the current thinking of the drs), we know it is not in our minds. One interesting point to consider: the info I got over the last few years showed that my instincts about myself were excellent. It is important to develop trust in our own selves. Kathryn On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Scott wrote: I had a blood test done for blood infections which the doctor told me included testing for yeasts including Candida. As far as knowing the terrain of our bodies, I agree. However, the thought and action of going to see the doctor is one that was learned and seemed, at one time, to be of value. I am believing that there are many more doctors that are being taught how to write prescriptions and make referrals than ones that truly know how to diagnose and treat. Thank you again for your openness. Scott<>< Clayton Family wrote: whether or not you have a fungal disease? I am unaware of *any* definitive test for candida that says you absolutely have it in an infective condition? There are blood tests for valley fever that will say if a person has ever had it, but it does not say whether you are sick from it at the time- that is usually from clinical implications, ei: symptoms and history. So, I am curious: what is this test you and Ed are talking about? The other point is this: when we know we are sick, it matters not if the whole world naysays. It becomes up to us to figure it out and take "the cure". I did get some important info from some medical tests, done by an environmental dr, but most tests run by most drs over the 15 years I had this said nothing was wrong with me. Of course, I knew better than this- what they really meant was "I don't know what is wrong with you". I guess my point is that we all need to learn the terrain of our own body, to find out waht works and does not, by trial and error, and that might include an Rx, or might not. One of the largest symptoms I had was overwhelming fatigue, from the beginning. Kathryn On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Scott wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Can CS Make Me Sick?-candida test
I had a blood test done for blood infections which the doctor told me included testing for yeasts including Candida. As far as knowing the terrain of our bodies, I agree. However, the thought and action of going to see the doctor is one that was learned and seemed, at one time, to be of value. I am believing that there are many more doctors that are being taught how to write prescriptions and make referrals than ones that truly know how to diagnose and treat. Thank you again for your openness. Scott<>< Clayton Family wrote: One big question: why are you listening to some dubious test about whether or not you have a fungal disease? I am unaware of *any* definitive test for candida that says you absolutely have it in an infective condition? There are blood tests for valley fever that will say if a person has ever had it, but it does not say whether you are sick from it at the time- that is usually from clinical implications, ei: symptoms and history. So, I am curious: what is this test you and Ed are talking about? The other point is this: when we know we are sick, it matters not if the whole world naysays. It becomes up to us to figure it out and take "the cure". I did get some important info from some medical tests, done by an environmental dr, but most tests run by most drs over the 15 years I had this said nothing was wrong with me. Of course, I knew better than this- what they really meant was "I don't know what is wrong with you". I guess my point is that we all need to learn the terrain of our own body, to find out waht works and does not, by trial and error, and that might include an Rx, or might not. One of the largest symptoms I had was overwhelming fatigue, from the beginning. Kathryn On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Scott wrote: > Ed, > > I, too, have had my doctors tell me that all I have is some discomfort > and that I am not bad enough to be out of work. Listen, I have one of > the best work ethics of anyone. I miss going to work, as I feel > productive, but am too sick to do so at this time. I can relate to > your dilemma in that way. Sometimes my symptoms are similar to > Candida, however, none of the tests taken for it have been positive. I > would not doubt, however, that you have some mycoplasmic condition. I > believe that the majority of my problems lean more toward some > mycoplasmic origins. > > Scott <>< > > m1mar...@aol.com wrote: >> I tested positive for Candida, and have taken a lot of CS, to no >> avail. I am on a real low Carb diet and am taking CS, MMS, and some >> Hydrogen Peroxide theraphy. I was stung by many Fire Ants about 6 >> years ago, and it seems that my problems began there. I have had >> crusted forearms, crustiness, in a lot of places, and if scraped >> becomes white. I feel that I may have more than one item that is >> affecting me. I do know that I have a fungus, due to the test >> results. The telltale strings in the glass of water, plus the >> yellowing of some toenails, and the itching, crawlie feeling. It >> really gets worse with the ingesting of Carbs. I have been to >> several Doctors, and the ones, two, in the room, suggested I may >> have Delusions of Parasites. I quit going, after none would help >> me. Ed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Can CS Make Me Sick?-candida test
One big question: why are you listening to some dubious test about whether or not you have a fungal disease? I am unaware of *any* definitive test for candida that says you absolutely have it in an infective condition? There are blood tests for valley fever that will say if a person has ever had it, but it does not say whether you are sick from it at the time- that is usually from clinical implications, ei: symptoms and history. So, I am curious: what is this test you and Ed are talking about? The other point is this: when we know we are sick, it matters not if the whole world naysays. It becomes up to us to figure it out and take "the cure". I did get some important info from some medical tests, done by an environmental dr, but most tests run by most drs over the 15 years I had this said nothing was wrong with me. Of course, I knew better than this- what they really meant was "I don't know what is wrong with you". I guess my point is that we all need to learn the terrain of our own body, to find out waht works and does not, by trial and error, and that might include an Rx, or might not. One of the largest symptoms I had was overwhelming fatigue, from the beginning. Kathryn On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Scott wrote: Ed, I, too, have had my doctors tell me that all I have is some discomfort and that I am not bad enough to be out of work. Listen, I have one of the best work ethics of anyone. I miss going to work, as I feel productive, but am too sick to do so at this time. I can relate to your dilemma in that way. Sometimes my symptoms are similar to Candida, however, none of the tests taken for it have been positive. I would not doubt, however, that you have some mycoplasmic condition. I believe that the majority of my problems lean more toward some mycoplasmic origins. Scott <>< m1mar...@aol.com wrote: I tested positive for Candida, and have taken a lot of CS, to no avail. I am on a real low Carb diet and am taking CS, MMS, and some Hydrogen Peroxide theraphy. I was stung by many Fire Ants about 6 years ago, and it seems that my problems began there. I have had crusted forearms, crustiness, in a lot of places, and if scraped becomes white. I feel that I may have more than one item that is affecting me. I do know that I have a fungus, due to the test results. The telltale strings in the glass of water, plus the yellowing of some toenails, and the itching, crawlie feeling. It really gets worse with the ingesting of Carbs. I have been to several Doctors, and the ones, two, in the room, suggested I may have Delusions of Parasites. I quit going, after none would help me. Ed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
