Re: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
Umm, John? Before you panic people with your "deadly virus" hyperbole, would you please explain to them you're using it as a metaphor for something else? > Ha folks, > Just came off a "conference" on "Social Manipulation & Control > Technology & Philosophy". A deadly virus is already loose and even CS > has no effect. > > Himagain (backagain) Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Mystery health problems
Hi there, A constant refrain in my old days as a Cancervivor mentor was" But OUR government wouldn't let that happen, not here in .(fill in blank). " They would, they did, they are at this very moment. It is worth reading or re-reading some of the general material out there. There are things being done to (and by) you that not even CS can help with - and this is an interesting piece, totally scientifically validated by the "enemy" itself: http://www.rense.com/general45/bll.htm Nothing like the ground-breaking "World Without Cancer" by Griffin, but a more innocent (?) piece that is very easy to read much that we should not forget. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
Has anyone attempted the "Rife" therapy on this virus? Dr. Dave Kenney -Original Message- From: John Rigby [mailto:jrig...@fablor.com] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy Ha folks, Just came off a "conference" on "Social Manipulation & Control Technology & Philosophy". A deadly virus is already loose and even CS has no effect. Himagain (backagain) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
What kind of virus -from whom? Where is it now? TJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
The recommend oral dose is 4cc per day of 99% - although people have consumed much higher amounts, this is what Dr Jacob recommends probably because it is well below what would even cause most people the transient side effects like headache and slight queasy stomach. The toxic dose is 44,000 times the therapeutic dose in animals tested so no worries on any toxicity. While I have consumed more concentrated mixtures Dr Jacob recommends diluting DMSO to 4% or 10% for oral consumption. I was consuming 20% or 30% DMSO with CS, concentrated but this meant I did not have to drink as much. It did give me a slight queasy feeling in my stomach (due to it not being empty perhaps) and a mild very short lived headache likely due to the vasodilation effect DMSO has. I make 10 ppm CS but you can use what ever concentration CS you have on hand. It would make it more effective presumable to use a higher concentration CS but I get floaters when I go higher. I have not tried running the CS twice to see if I can get it higher because 10 ppm seems to be effective. == For measuring: 15 cc = 1 Tablespoon 5 cc = 1 Teaspoon 1 cc = 1 ml 1 oz = 30 ml = 30 cc Or use a syringe to measure exact cc's. Using a teaspoon or tablespoon will get you in the range you want to be in. It does not have to exact. == To make one days worth of 10% DMSO CS: Using 4 cc per day of DMSO -- mix that 4 cc of 99% DMSO with 36 cc of CS to make 10% DMSO CS. This will yeild 40cc that can be consumed over the next 24 hours. That's not quite three tablespoons total. To make one days worth of 4% DMSO CS: Again using the 4 cc per day of DMSO -- mix 4 cc of DMSO with 96 cc of CS. This will yeild 100 cc of mixture to be consumed over the next 24 hours. That's a little more than 6 Tablespoons total to get the 4cc of DMSO daily. If you want to mix up more than one day's dose at a time, simple multiply both quantities. So to mix up say ten daily doses just multiply all the quantities times 10. For the 10% that would be 40cc of 99% DMSO and 360 cc of CS. This is ten days. I hope I did not confuse things by figuring in the daily recommended amounts. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 21:51, Bruce Anderson wrote: > Garnet, > Could you please give the DMSO, CS ratio? I think I'd like to add that > mixture to the war chest. > Many thanks, > Bruce > > Garnet wrote: > > >Combining oral CS and oral DMSO may make the difference here. DMSO will > >penetrate and carry CS to tissues that it might not normally penetrate > >unless very high doses are used. DMSO increases the efficacy without > >increasing dose. At least this is my experience using CS alone and then > >with DMSO to over come a bad case of the Fujian Flu last fall. I would > >not hesitate to use this combination orally any time I had doubts or > >thought I was dealing with a particulary virulent organism. > > > >Garnet > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath
No I don't really have any other good ideas. I don't know how they mix it and it may be a proprietary process. If you buy it from www.jacoblab.com it does help support their research and publishing efforts. Dr Jacob is working on a extensive book on DMSO, some where I read it was to be a 6 volume set. I have recently been reading about Effective Microorganisms, a proprietary mixture of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. One use I am looking at is for adding them to pain to reduce VOCs (paint odors). I have no idea but it is a thought that maybe it could also deodorize DMSO? But then again maybe the DMSO would kill them since they are bacteria and it is effective against some bacteria. Particularly if it contained cs. Google "Effective Microorganisms" for more info. There is a Yahoo list but I don't have the address. They are sold through dealers and no you can not cultivate them, it changes them, adds other bugs etc. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 17:51, Roger Barker wrote: > Hi Garnet, I've finally got around to posting the results of my > DMSO/urea test. > I started by diluting the DMSO 50% with distilled water. Next I made > up a saturated solution of urea in distilled water then added 10% of > this to the diluted DMSO. After a couple of days I could detect no > fall off in the smell so increased the urea mix to 20% with the same > results :-( > > Not sure what to try next. > > Cheers, Roger > http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html > > > > > on 26/9/2004 7:09 AM, Garnet at garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: > > Dr Jacob's did not say if it 10% by volume or weight, but I would just > get in the ball park and see if it works. Can't hurt you, as urea is > in > many hand lotions and cosmetics as a moisturizing, and probably > anti-bacterial ingredient. > > By volume you would need to rehydrate the urea to some standard > solution, not sure how much that would be. If you want to go this way > try dissolving it in a cup of water until no more will dissolve. Use 1 > part of this to 9 parts dilute DMSO. Dilute the DMSO to 50% first, use > CS if you like or just distilled water. > > By weight dilute DMSO to 50%, weigh it or assume it is one gram per > ml, > since water is. Take say a liter, 1000 ml, that would weigh 1000 gms. > Ten percent by weight would call for 100 grams of urea, which you > could > weigh on a good food scale. (Target has a good digital for $20). > > www.jacoblab.com product with urea is 50% DMSO, if I am remembering > correctly. You are starting with 99.9% so basically need to cut this > in > half if you are trying to replicate his formula. > > > Garnet > > On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 00:53, Roger Barker wrote: > I've got 99.9% DMSO and plenty of clean urea. If anyone would care to > offer > suggestions/mixings or ideas re testing for odour removal I'll give it > a try > during the following week. > > Cheers, Roger > http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html > > > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet?
The key is as JBB said, *competent* medical diagnosis. I don't think that is available to me. Once in pre-CS years I went to the doctor with so much fluid in one lung that it took quite some time for every breath to bubble out, very weird feeling, btw, but anyway he said I just had bronchitis and sent me home with a Z-pack. Isn't that much fluid in a lung pneumonia? Anyway, I don't have anything like that, and no signs of any secondary infections, no fever. Did your husband or his sister have fevers? Any symptoms at all? It can be very difficult to tell what is going on by trying to judge from typical symptoms. When my son was in grade school the only time he ever had a positive throat culture for strep, he had no sore throat, no redness in the throat, no symptoms...I had just had him cultured because of some reason I no longer remember. Yet, I still get the "you don't need a throat culture, your throat isn't red." sol C. Hatzfeld wrote: g. One note of caution: last year my husband was ill, thought it was a cold, went on for weeks, turned out it was bronchitis, although there was NO cough involved. Recently, his sister was in the hospital with chest pains, they couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. A few days after they sent her home they figured out she had pneumonia. It is worthwhile to go to the doctor to get correct diagnosis. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath
I purchased the Jacob Lab 60% DMSO low odor product, and it says "topical use". I haven't gotten around to calling them to ask if this means it is not to be used internally. Applied topically, it does not cause the BO or bad breath for me, but it does have a very nasty chemical odor of its own that I find bothers me a lot. My husband is used to the smell of small shot glasses of diluted regular DMSO on the bathroom vanity, but when I had a little glass of diluted Jacob lab stuff sitting out, came asked me what the awful smell was. I find it very unpleasant to use also, as it has glycerin added in addition to the urea, and it leaves the skin feeling sticky for quite some time after application, even though I use it diluted to approx 20% with CS. All in all I am quite disappointed in it for myself, and it was many times more expensive than regular DMSO. For me I will probably go back to taking chlorophyll but am out, and can't find it locally. If I find out if it is safe or not for internal use, I will post. sol Garnet wrote: No I don't really have any other good ideas. I don't know how they mix it and it may be a proprietary process. If you buy it from www.jacoblab.com it does help support their research and publishing efforts. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 17:51, Roger Barker wrote: Hi Garnet, I've finally got around to posting the results of my DMSO/urea test. I started by diluting the DMSO 50% with distilled water. Next I made up a saturated solution of urea in distilled water then added 10% of this to the diluted DMSO. After a couple of days I could detect no fall off in the smell so increased the urea mix to 20% with the same results :-( -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mystery health problems
The Plan - which started over 300 years ago - is set out very aptly in a book called - Rule by Secrecy - get it read it and you will see - the plan is right on track !!! Sandee P.S. owing to lack of water, light and phone in Grenada I am completely out of touch with the rest of the world - am I correct in what I heard when I arrived here in Miami last week - did Australia have an election lately and did Howard get back in ? If this is so then I am blown away !
RE: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
Does the virus have a name, what are the symptoms, how is it transferred, etc.? Thanks, Terry -Original Message- From: John Rigby [mailto:jrig...@fablor.com] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy Ha folks, Just came off a "conference" on "Social Manipulation & Control Technology & Philosophy". A deadly virus is already loose and even CS has no effect. Himagain (backagain) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004
RE: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
Mike: Sorry - I posted my inquiry to John before reading your message...thinking it was something relevant to the use of CS. Terry -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy Umm, John? Before you panic people with your "deadly virus" hyperbole, would you please explain to them you're using it as a metaphor for something else? > Ha folks, > Just came off a "conference" on "Social Manipulation & Control > Technology & Philosophy". A deadly virus is already loose and even CS > has no effect. > > Himagain (backagain) Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Could the subject of this thread be possible CHANGED!?!? I am attempting to learn about CS and find it very VERY disheartening when subject lines can not be changed to reflect the actual subject of a post! Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "Garnet" To: "Silver List" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET > The recommend oral dose is 4cc per day of 99% - although people have > consumed much higher amounts, this is what Dr Jacob recommends probably > because it is well below what would even cause most people the transient > side effects like headache and slight queasy stomach. The toxic dose is > 44,000 times the therapeutic dose in animals tested so no worries on any > toxicity. > > While I have consumed more concentrated mixtures Dr Jacob recommends > diluting DMSO to 4% or 10% for oral consumption. I was consuming 20% or > 30% DMSO with CS, concentrated but this meant I did not have to drink as > much. It did give me a slight queasy feeling in my stomach (due to it > not being empty perhaps) and a mild very short lived headache likely due > to the vasodilation effect DMSO has. > > I make 10 ppm CS but you can use what ever concentration CS you have on > hand. It would make it more effective presumable to use a higher > concentration CS but I get floaters when I go higher. I have not tried > running the CS twice to see if I can get it higher because 10 ppm seems > to be effective. > > == > > For measuring: > > 15 cc = 1 Tablespoon > 5 cc = 1 Teaspoon > > 1 cc = 1 ml > > 1 oz = 30 ml = 30 cc > > Or use a syringe to measure exact cc's. Using a teaspoon or tablespoon > will get you in the range you want to be in. It does not have to exact. > > == > > To make one days worth of 10% DMSO CS: > Using 4 cc per day of DMSO -- mix that 4 cc of 99% DMSO with 36 cc of CS > to make 10% DMSO CS. This will yeild 40cc that can be consumed over the > next 24 hours. That's not quite three tablespoons total. > > To make one days worth of 4% DMSO CS: > Again using the 4 cc per day of DMSO -- mix 4 cc of DMSO with 96 cc of > CS. This will yeild 100 cc of mixture to be consumed over the next 24 > hours. That's a little more than 6 Tablespoons total to get the 4cc of > DMSO daily. > > If you want to mix up more than one day's dose at a time, simple > multiply both quantities. > > So to mix up say ten daily doses just multiply all the quantities times > 10. For the 10% that would be 40cc of 99% DMSO and 360 cc of CS. This is > ten days. > > I hope I did not confuse things by figuring in the daily recommended > amounts. > > > > > Garnet > > > On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 21:51, Bruce Anderson wrote: > > Garnet, > > Could you please give the DMSO, CS ratio? I think I'd like to add that > > mixture to the war chest. > > Many thanks, > > Bruce > > > > Garnet wrote: > > > > >Combining oral CS and oral DMSO may make the difference here. DMSO will > > >penetrate and carry CS to tissues that it might not normally penetrate > > >unless very high doses are used. DMSO increases the efficacy without > > >increasing dose. At least this is my experience using CS alone and then > > >with DMSO to over come a bad case of the Fujian Flu last fall. I would > > >not hesitate to use this combination orally any time I had doubts or > > >thought I was dealing with a particulary virulent organism. > > > > > >Garnet > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET From: Denise Rollheiser Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:57:52 > Could the subject of this thread be possible CHANGED!?!? I am > attempting to learn about CS and find it very VERY disheartening > when subject lines can not be changed to reflect the actual > subject of a post! > Denise Hi Denise, Yes, sometimes the thread topic has little to do with the comments. But you often find gems buried in tiny remarks that people make without realizing how valuable they can be to someone else. So don't give up hope - after a while it will start making sense. The archives can be a gold mine of info, especially when you start recognizing the names of some oldtimers. You can browse by Date or Thread. Here's the Date Index: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html You can also use the search box at the top of the page. It is limited to single words with 4 letters or more, which can be frustrating. But it's better than nothing, and can actually be useful once you get the hang of figuring out the best word to search for. So welcome to the list, and best wishes on your quest for info! Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Last time I changed one, it was pointed out to me that it would make it very difficult to follow the thread in the archives. So I did not change it, in any of my replies. As it is a search for one of the key words in the posts will bring up a post and the subject header, which can then be followed through the entire thread. Or so I assume. sol Denise Rollheiser wrote: Could the subject of this thread be possible CHANGED!?!? I am attempting to learn about CS and find it very VERY disheartening when subject lines can not be changed to reflect the actual subject of a post! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Garnet, Some time ago, like maybe a couple of years, there was quite a lengthy discussion of what PPM of CS is needed to cure something. As I remember, the conclusion was that ppm is largely irrelevant -- 2or3 ppm being as effective as 20 or 30. There is a technical name for this condition, but I don't remember it. Perhaps some of the technical people know what it is so that you could find the discussion in the archives. GeorgeA
CS>Refining DMSO
Dear Garnet, Thank you very much for the warning. I had reached about the same conclusion, but for entirely different reasons. The boiling point of DMSO is far above the boiling point of H2O. So common distillation apparatus would be misused if they were used to purify DMSO. It could be quite hazardous, aside from the toxicity you point out. Phase transitions have a purifying effect, so why not use the freeze-thaw transition instead of the boil-condense transition? IMHO, trying to distill DMSO offers no advantages and perhaps plenty of drawbacks. Thanks again for your input. Best regards, Matthew - Original Message - From: "Garnet" To: "Matthew McCann" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:37 PM Subject: Re: CS>Refining DMSO > Just wanted to mention that inhaling DMSO vapors, that is boiling it and > inhaling the "steam" is toxic. It has a very high boiling point, over > 350*. This is the one way it can be dangerous to humans. > > It is however safe to nebulize it since that is not DMSO vapor but DMSO > liquid in very small droplets. > > Garnet > > On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 19:37, Matthew McCann wrote: > > Subject: Refining DMSO > > > > http://www.designscientific.com/applications.htm > > http://www.designscientific.com/zonetheory.htm > > > > These websites refer to zonal melting as a physical method > > of ultra-purifying organic compounds. E.F.G Herrington's > > text Zonal Melting Of Organic Chemicals (John Wiley, > > 1963) describes many organic compounds that have > > been successfully purified that are less convenient > > than DMSO regarding volatility, freezing temperature, > > toxicity, handling, availability, etc. > > > > It might be possible to make DMSO zonal > > refing apparatus from a > > bulkheaded angel-food cake mold on a veeerry slow > > turntable spot-heated by an incandescent lamp. > > > > Matthew > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re:CS>Antiquarian Epidemiology
Hello Matthew: In some information I have taken from Colloidal Silver and you published by Silver Education Coalition in Salt Lake City, Utah, on pages 19-20 there is a partial listing of Medicinal Applications of Colloidal Silver which includes Leprosy. Hope this helps Bill Amos -- Hello, Members of the List, I work with people who serve periodically as missionaries in the Amazon basin where leprosy still occurs. They are not medical missionaries and have little or no contact with victims of Hansen's disease. Some have put a question to me about EIS, though. The term 'bluebloods' comes from the european nobles who escaped plagues such as the Black Death by using silver tableware. Did the bluebloods also escape leprosy? Some medieval people were keen enough observers to notice some relation between bubonic plague, rodents and a dearth of cats. Does anyone know if they noticed if silver drove away leprosy? Thanks in advance for your input. Matthew *** This message contains parts that can not be recognized or delivered to your device but has been saved on your webmail account. It will be stored there for future access until your webmail account reaches a 5 Megabyte limit at which time it will be deleted. If you have access to a computer and wish to view the complete message please visit https://webmail.earthlink.net and enter your MailStation e-mail address and password. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath
Garnet, Speaking of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. I have plenty of bacteria and yeasts in my Kombucha. L(+) Lactic acid - Usnic acid - Acetic acid - Carbonic acid - Folic Acid - Gluconic acid - Glucuronic acid - Amino acids vitamins, Various Enzymes are also reported as present. I'd be glad to send you some to experiment to reduce VOCs and hopefully deodorize DMSO. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:20 AM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath No I don't really have any other good ideas. I don't know how they mix it and it may be a proprietary process. If you buy it from www.jacoblab.com it does help support their research and publishing efforts. Dr Jacob is working on a extensive book on DMSO, some where I read it was to be a 6 volume set. I have recently been reading about Effective Microorganisms, a proprietary mixture of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. One use I am looking at is for adding them to pain to reduce VOCs (paint odors). I have no idea but it is a thought that maybe it could also deodorize DMSO? But then again maybe the DMSO would kill them since they are bacteria and it is effective against some bacteria. Particularly if it contained cs. Google "Effective Microorganisms" for more info. There is a Yahoo list but I don't have the address. They are sold through dealers and no you can not cultivate them, it changes them, adds other bugs etc. Garnet -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.11.1 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.11.1 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET From: GAllen4296 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:03:47 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74050.html > Garnet, > Some time ago, like maybe a couple of years, there was quite a > lengthy discussion of what PPM of CS is needed to cure something. > As I remember, the conclusion was that ppm is largely irrelevant > 2or3 ppm being as effective as 20 or 30. There is a technical name > for this condition, but I don't remember it. Perhaps some of the > technical people know what it is so that you could find the > discussion in the archives. > GeorgeA Hi GeorgeA, I think you might be looking for the term "oligodynamic", one of Jason's favorite terms while talking about colloidal silver. The term "oligodynamic" was first used by von Nageli in 1893 to define a material "effective in small quantities." It includes heavy metals such as mercury, copper, and silver. One characteristic is extreme toxicity to bacteria, described in the following excerpt from the "British Columbia Ambient Water Quality Criteria for Silver": "Application of Criteria for Aquatic Life" "Silver is a disinfectant for non-spore forming bacteria at concentrations about 1000 times lower than the levels at which it is toxic to mammalian life. This extreme mammalian-to-bacterial toxicity differential is the definition of an oligodynamic material." "The low concentration necessary for oligodynamic activity allows silver or one of its insoluble salts to be used indefinitely in contact with sterile liquids without silver levels building up to concentrations harmful to people. The biological effects of silver are apparently due to reversible bonds with enzymes and other active molecules on the surface of cells. Due to its sulphydryl bindingpropensity, biologically-available silver disrupts membranes, disables proteins and inhibits enzymes. The ionic form of silver is necessary for biological activity and the lipid phase of the membrane appears to be important in adsorbing silver ions to living cells. The active sites on enzymes which are affected by silver are apparently the electron-rich functional groups such as-SH groups." http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/BCguidelines/silver/bcsilver-04.htm When you are young and have a healthy immune system, 2 or 3 ppm cs may be all that is needed to fend off infections and viruses. As you get older, your immune system starts degrading. Also, radiation or chemotherapy treatments, exposure to strong mold concentrations, and HIV can damage the immune system. In these situations, the typical 5 or 10 ppm cs that is obtained with the classic 3 nines cs generator is no longer effective, and you need the strongest cs you can find. From what I understand, both Ken's Silverpuppy and Trem's Silvergen can make cs of 20ppm or more. If you make your own cs generator, you may find lowering the current density will allow you to reach higher ppm. I often use 80 uA/sq.in. or so, and find the best I can get is about 22 ppm. I can push it higher, but then it may start showing a very slight yellow tint after a week or so. This is harmless, and merely indicates I have reached the limit for that quality of dw and process. It is possible to make higher ppm, but the results so far have been highly unpredictable and non-repeatable. I recently came across a different method that looks promising, but extremely dangerous. I'll try it and if it seems appropriate, I'll post the results. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Potency of EIS diluted
Hello, George, Perhaps the term you are seeking is oligodynamism, the phenomenon of dilution increasing potency. The oligodynamism of CS was discovered (by Nageli) before the discovery of its pharmacological benefits for humans (by Crookes.) One possible explanation for oligodynamism is that the particulate envelopes itself with a multitude of layers of dipolar waters of hydration (lke layers of an onion.) These waters of hydration are not distinguishable by microscopy but are nonetheless contributory to the potency of the particulate. And they need ample spacing so as not to imfringe on each other. So dilution enhances potency. I have seen no compelling evidence for this theory; nor have I seen evidence against it. Matthew
CS>Antiquarian Epidemiology
Hello, Members of the List, I work with people who serve periodically as missionaries in the Amazon basin where leprosy still occurs. They are not medical missionaries and have little or no contact with victims of Hansen's disease. Some have put a question to me about EIS, though. The term 'bluebloods' comes from the european nobles who escaped plagues such as the Black Death by using silver tableware. Did the bluebloods also escape leprosy? Some medieval people were keen enough observers to notice some relation between bubonic plague, rodents and a dearth of cats. Does anyone know if they noticed if silver drove away leprosy? Thanks in advance for your input. Matthew
Re: CS>Antiquarian Epidemiology
Unlike so many other expressions, this one is well documented. It's a direct translation of the Spanish sangre azul. Many of the oldest and proudest families of Castile used to boast that they were pure bred, having no link with the Moors who had for so long controlled the country, or indeed any other group. As a mark of this, they pointed to their veins, which seemed bluer in colour than those of such foreigners. This was simply because the blue-tinted venous blood showed up more prominently in their lighter skin, but they took it to be a mark of their pure breeding. So the phrase blue blood came to refer to the blood which flowed in the veins of the oldest and most aristocratic families. The phrase was taken over into English in the 1830s. Best Regards, Arnold Beland Sitting here looking at veins through my practically transparent skin. www.abeland1.com - Original Message - From: Matthew McCann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: CS>Antiquarian Epidemiology Hello, Members of the List, I work with people who serve periodically as missionaries in the Amazon basin where leprosy still occurs. They are not medical missionaries and have little or no contact with victims of Hansen's disease. Some have put a question to me about EIS, though. The term 'bluebloods' comes from the european nobles who escaped plagues such as the Black Death by using silver tableware. Did the bluebloods also escape leprosy? Some medieval people were keen enough observers to notice some relation between bubonic plague, rodents and a dearth of cats. Does anyone know if they noticed if silver drove away leprosy? Thanks in advance for your input. Matthew --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.776 / Virus Database: 523 - Release Date: 10/14/2004
Re: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
At 07:51 PM 17/10/04, Mike wrote: Umm, John? Before you panic people with your "deadly virus" hyperbole, would you please explain to them you're using it as a metaphor for something else? > Ha folks, > Just came off a "conference" on "Social Manipulation & Control > Technology & Philosophy". A deadly virus is already loose and even CS > has no effect. > > Himagain (backagain) Hi Mike & folks, I wish it was hyperbole. Something I am definitely not known for! :-) It was not a metaphor - it refers explicitly to the advice that people should read the reference in "Mystery Health Problems" post. It refers to the fact that even the deadly "virus" (mimic") as most "virii" really are only the result of extreme toxicity and/ or deliberate GMO, called "fluoride" now being really pushed worldwide - has quietly been switched for the even more deadly version. Readers with experience/knowhow in research should read this and then look up the Merk index. Could save an awful lot of lives.. and no, this is not hyperbole a metaphor or an exaggeration in any way. Sorry about that, folks, but don't shoot the messenger. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath
In view of Sol's message part of which reads- I purchased the Jacob Lab 60% DMSO low odor product, and it says "topical use". I haven't gotten around to calling them to ask if this means it is not to be used internally. Applied topically, it does not cause the BO or bad breath for me, but it does have a very nasty chemical odor of its own. Maybe I should try a topical application of my mixture then breath on a few people to see if the bad breath is gone for me. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 18/10/2004 5:19 AM, Garnet at garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: No I don't really have any other good ideas. I don't know how they mix it and it may be a proprietary process. If you buy it from www.jacoblab.com it does help support their research and publishing efforts. Dr Jacob is working on a extensive book on DMSO, some where I read it was to be a 6 volume set. I have recently been reading about Effective Microorganisms, a proprietary mixture of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. One use I am looking at is for adding them to pain to reduce VOCs (paint odors). I have no idea but it is a thought that maybe it could also deodorize DMSO? But then again maybe the DMSO would kill them since they are bacteria and it is effective against some bacteria. Particularly if it contained cs. Google "Effective Microorganisms" for more info. There is a Yahoo list but I don't have the address. They are sold through dealers and no you can not cultivate them, it changes them, adds other bugs etc. Garnet
CS>RE: Antiquarian Epidemiology
Hi folks, Arnold wrote: Unlike so many other expressions, this one is well documented. It's a direct translation of the Spanish sangre azul. Many of the oldest and proudest families of Castile used to boast that they were pure bred, having no link with the Moors who had for so long controlled the country, or indeed any other group. Actually, it is far greater antiquity than that. Although not politically correct to state it, virtually every culture has a recognition of the blue-eyed, white-skinned, blonde "gods" with the aquiline noses and it is a simple way for one to understand various "caste"systems like Indian, Chinese, European. In the ancient books of Ku a'la there is much discussion about it (colour) and language, both of which make little sense . except as markers in the former and control mechanisms in the latter. The "Silver" question (argyra) is a modern furphy. Cheers, Himagain BTW: Did you notice that "They" didn't tell us that a meteor big enough to take us out missed us by a cat's whisker recently? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy. NOW mystery of the virus
At 10:31 PM 17/10/04, you wrote: Has anyone attempted the "Rife" therapy on this virus? Dr. Dave Kenney As "everybody knows" that stuff don't work. Actually, my reading to date on it as a system is that it actually very effectively deals with organisms, but if you study the theory of viral origins, it is more convoluted than the Big Bang Theory. I'm personally with Bechamp here: http://members.iinet.net.au/~dminoz/bechamp/ In its simplest form: Pasteur was a proven maniac and a fraud. Unfortunately, his logically unsustainable theories were very, very useful in creating the monster of Pharmaceutical Medicine. But, to answer the point about this particular "virus": Just as the 1918 "Flu Epidemic" was as "natural" as most modern afflictions ( based on a GMO) originating in the work to develop deadly gasses during the First World War, this one is a directly ingested monster called generically, FLUORIDE. It is referred to as a "virus" by the cognoscenti simply because it is another mystery - like the "virus" itself. But this mystery is simple: WHY are they doing it to us? Why have they quietly been upping the dose and now switching to a far more "virulent" and deadly form? Its cumulative effects are identical to radiation poisoning. Irreversible at a certain point. Nothing CS or anything else can do about it. Cheers? Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mystery health problems
At 02:58 AM 18/10/04, Sandee wrote: P.S. owing to lack of water, light and phone in Grenada I am completely out of touch with the rest of the world - am I correct in what I heard when I arrived here in Miami last week - did Australia have an election lately and did Howard get back in ? If this is so then I am blown away ! Hi Sandee, Yes. And you might. (Get blown away that is - with all the hurricane action going on in the world!) Woops! This isn't the O.T. list - continued there... Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? NOW Changing Thread
Hi folks, It *IS* frustrating, but as you can see, easy to do. It will show right after the last post with the old name in 99.999% of Databases. At 05:50 AM 18/10/04, you wrote: Last time I changed one, it was pointed out to me that it would make it very difficult to follow the thread in the archives. So I did not change it, in any of my replies. As it is a search for one of the key words in the posts will bring up a post and the subject header, which can then be followed through the entire thread. Or so I assume. sol Denise Rollheiser wrote: Could the subject of this thread be possible CHANGED!?!? I am attempting to learn about CS and find it very VERY disheartening when subject lines can not be changed to reflect the actual subject of a post! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Bells Palsy
I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Potency of EIS diluted
Hi folks, A very interesting area and can be researched by following the subject of Homeopathy ( lots of evidence for it Matthew, but little understanding) and then consider this: The human body has remarkable inbuilt restorative/recuperative and manufacturing powers. It is assaulted by all sorts of foreign matter constantly and has to handle it internally for the most part. Many of the "medicines" we ingest or worse - inject - into that body vastly increase the work it has to do in its defence. While it is simpler to make sure it has the materials it needs to maintain itself, there is the belief ( carefully inculcated in us) that the "Priest" can make it all go away - for a price. Especially pain/discomfort. Reason by Ockham's suggests that dilution of most things reduces their toxicity and simply allows the body to do it.!! (More on offtopic list ) Subject: CS>Potency of EIS diluted Hello, George, Perhaps the term you are seeking is oligodynamism, the phenomenon of dilution increasing potency. SNIP . I have seen no compelling evidence for this theory; nor have I seen evidence against it. Matthew -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Hanna Meter Model Number
Ode and Mike, As you indicate, the range that we would use the PWT is at the lower end of the meter's range. The accuracy, when calibrated at full scale, along with the linearity of the response, makes the error large when compared to the smaller readings at the low end of the scale. I would suggest, then, that we increase the accuracy of the readings in the range that we will be using them. The way to do this is to calibrate the meter at the maximum uS reading that we are likely to encounter, say, between 25 to 30 uS. This will throw off the accuracy at readings substantially above this level, but will increase the accuracy between 0 and 30 uS. So, unless the linearity of the meter's response between 0 and 30 uS is particularly bad, we would approach an accuracy of near +/- 2% of full scale, with full scale being 20 or 30 uS (our new "full scale" value). If the linearity between 0 and 30 uS is particularly bad, then we will not achieve this accuracy, and the accuracy of the meter with normal calibration will also be bad; in short the meter would be useless for our purposes... Dan Re: CS>Hanna Meter Model Number * From: Mike Monett (view other messages by this author) * Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 06:48:15 Ken, thanks for the good info, especially on controlling temperature! As far as getting two units to agree, the spec is +/-2% of full scale. This means +/-2ppm, which means one unit could read 4 ppm higher or lower than another and they would still be in spec. A slight difference in temperature would increase the discrepancy. The problem is the units are design for higher conductivity than we typically get in cs, so our readings are at the bottom 20% of the range. This is the least accurate portion. Here's the specs from Hanna's site: Range : 0.1 to 99.9 uS/cm Resolution : 0.1 uS/cm Accuracy (@20C/68F) : +/-2% Full Scale http://www.hannainst.com/products/testers/pwt.htm Although individual units may differ by more than we would like, one would hope they would be consistent and repeatable. As far as I can determine from searching the archives, most people seem to feel the units are repeatable. I know you have posted seeing different results, but it is not clear what caused them. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath
Let us know the results! sol Roger Barker wrote: Maybe I should try a topical application of my mixture then breath on a few people to see if the bad breath is gone for me. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET * From: Garnet wrote: * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:29:15 > I make 10 ppm CS but you can use what ever concentration CS you have on hand. It would make it more effective presumable to use a higher concentration CS but I get floaters when I go higher. I have not tried running the CS twice to see if I can get it higher because 10 ppm seems to be effective. What is this about floaters and high concentration CS? Why would this be? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy
Cut to the chase, Dude! Dan Re: CS>take a look at the off-topic list, folks. It's easy * From: j rigby wrote: * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:07:42 At 07:51 PM 17/10/04, Mike wrote: Umm, John? Before you panic people with your "deadly virus" hyperbole, would you please explain to them you're using it as a metaphor for something else? > Ha folks, > Just came off a "conference" on "Social Manipulation & Control > Technology & Philosophy". A deadly virus is already loose and even CS > has no effect. > > Himagain (backagain) Hi Mike & folks, I wish it was hyperbole. Something I am definitely not known for! :-) It was not a metaphor - it refers explicitly to the advice that people should read the reference in "Mystery Health Problems" post. It refers to the fact that even the deadly "virus" (mimic") as most "virii" really are only the result of extreme toxicity and/ or deliberate GMO, called "fluoride" now being really pushed worldwide - has quietly been switched for the even more deadly version. Readers with experience/knowhow in research should read this and then look up the Merk index. Could save an awful lot of lives.. and no, this is not hyperbole a metaphor or an exaggeration in any way. Sorry about that, folks, but don't shoot the messenger. Himagain -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? NOW Changing Thread
So the trick is to put the changed subject AFTER the original, but NOT before it as in : Now Changing Thread, was Re:CS>Is it really this quiet? sol j rigby wrote: Hi folks, It *IS* frustrating, but as you can see, easy to do. It will show right after the last post with the old name in 99.999% of Databases. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Bells Palsy
If I had Bell's Palsy I would be chugging mass quantities of CS. I would also be spraying CS in my eyes. I would get a quantity of CS to which I would add 10% DMSO and put it into my ear and saturate a cloth with it and place it over the whole side of my face/head and keep it wet with the solution. Several times a day at the extreme minimum. If I had a zapper (which I do) I would use it immediately, and often. ASAP Dan PS Just my opinion... CS>Bells Palsy * From: David wrote: * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:40:40 I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? NOW Changing Thread
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? NOW Changing Thread From: sol Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:34:52 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74070.html > So the trick is to put the changed subject AFTER the original, but > NOT before it as in : > Now Changing Thread, was Re:CS>Is it really this quiet? > sol No, sol, this does not work, as you can easily see by checking the archives. The previous thread broke as soon as j rigby changed the subject. Unfortunately, he did not check his post, and did not know his suggestion would not work: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Any change you make to the subject line starts a new thread. There is no connection to any previous thread whatsoever. Of course, you can change the subject any time you want - people tend to read the posts of their favorite authors and disregard those who merely waste our time. So I guess you know that I read your posts:) Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>No, It's not really this quiet, was "CS>Is it really this quiet?"
No. Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bells Palsy
Thanks Dan, Whats strange is I have been doing more then my usual CS because I came down with a cold on monday. My normal dose of CS is 16 oz a day so I was very suprised I got a cold at all! The cold was pretty much gone by Wed ( I was also using my clark zapper) then this happened today. I will go and see if I can find some DMSO tomorrow. After reading all of Garnet's posts about DMSO I was thinking that was a good idea. Thanks again for your advice! David --- Dan Nave wrote: > If I had Bell's Palsy I would be chugging mass > quantities of CS. > I would also be spraying CS in my eyes. > I would get a quantity of CS to which I would add > 10% DMSO and put > it into my ear and saturate a cloth with it and > place it over the > whole side of my face/head and keep it wet with the > solution. > Several times a day at the extreme minimum. > > If I had a zapper (which I do) I would use it > immediately, and often. > > ASAP > > Dan > > PS Just my opinion... > > > > > CS>Bells Palsy > > > > * From: David wrote: > > * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:40:40 > > > > I had scary thing happen to me today... the left > side > > of my face stopped working... I can't blink my > eye, > > the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I > > drink something I better keep it on the right side > of > > my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I > > thought I was having a stroke so I went to the > > emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the > > other things I have never had before and they tell > me > > I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for > most > > people it goes away within a couple months or so. > They > > don't really know what causes it but some papers > they > > gave me says that they think it might be caused by > a > > virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells > > Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a > holistic > > manner? They gave me steroids and and some other > > poison I really don't want to take. Any help would > be > > appreciated. Thanks in advance! > > > > David > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Bells Palsy
David wrote: Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? The recovery time can be dramatically reduced by taking colloidal platinum. Dosage using 10 ppm platinum: One tablespoon 3-4 times a day on an empty stomach should do it. Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Hanna Meter Model Number
Re: CS>Hanna Meter Model Number From: Dan Nave Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:56:48 > Ode and Mike, > As you indicate, the range that we would use the PWT is at the > lower end of the meter's range. The accuracy, when calibrated at > full scale, along with the linearity of the response, makes the > error large when compared to the smaller readings at the low end > of the scale. > I would suggest, then, that we increase the accuracy of the > readings in the range that we will be using them. The way to do > this is to calibrate the meter at the maximum uS reading that we > are likely to encounter, say, between 25 to 30 uS. This will throw > off the accuracy at readings substantially above this level, but > will increase the accuracy between 0 and 30 uS. So, unless the > linearity of the meter's response between 0 and 30 uS is > particularly bad, we would approach an accuracy of near +/- 2% of > full scale, with full scale being 20 or 30 uS (our new "full > scale" value). If the linearity between 0 and 30 uS is > particularly bad, then we will not achieve this accuracy, and the > accuracy of the meter with normal calibration will also be bad; in > short the meter would be useless for our purposes... > Dan Hi Dan, Good suggestions - but the standard Hanna calibration solution is 84uS. It could be diluted two or three times, and then you have the problem of maintaining better than 2% accuracy. That may be difficult to do. NIST-traceable calibration solutions are available that may be in our ppm range, but they are very expensive. I think the real issue is making sure the process is working properly and getting good repeatability. In my case, I have a good constant current source and I use the Faraday equations to predict when it will hit 22 ppm, which is when the gray whiskers start to form on the cathode. A typical brew takes 6 hrs or so, and I may be a bit late returning from shopping or some other distraction may occur. So I don't always stop it exactly on time, but that really doesn't matter much. Then I reverse the polarity and let it run another hour or so. I am confident the resulting cs is above 20 ppm, but I don't know by how much. One way to tell is the reaction on your teeth after holding the cs in your mouth for ten minutes. I get a raspy feeling when I move my tongue along the teeth, and any plaque falls off sometime later. So I know it's getting in there and killing bacteria. So I'd suggest calibrating a Hanna at several points using the Faraday equations and plot the results. If you use low current density, the results should be reasonably accurate up to 22 ppm or so. Of course, Ken's suggestions on temperature control should be followed. Also, I'd probably stick with using only one Hanna. Like they say, a man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never certain:) Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Bells palsey
I would like to add that acupuncture can be extremely effective for bells palsy. I actually practice it and have treated this condition successfully several times over the years. I have come to believe that most of the time this is caused by a virus, perhaps the herpes virus. CS should in theory be very helpful as well. Bob
