Re: [Simh] Possibly a n00b configuration error

2014-09-20 Thread Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm
HI Mark,

On Saturday, September 20, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
 A quick configuration question if I could be so bold. Ever since I can
 remember my startup script for the VAX 3900 has halted with an error:
 
 msw@hpm:/usr/local/vax/bin$ sudo ./vax
 
 VAX simulator V3.9-0
 NVR: buffering file in memory
 Eth: opened OS device eth3
 Listening on port 2023 (socket 9)
 
 
 KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
 Performing normal system tests.
 40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
 24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..
 
 ?80 2 17 FF 00 
 
 P1=0100  P2=  P3=  P4=0088  P5=
 P6=  P7=  P8=03FC  P9=303FFE00 P10=1FFF
 r0=  r1=20088000  r2=  r3=3040  r4=03FF4000
 r5=  r6=0400  r7=3000  r8=8000 ERF=8000
 
 08..07..06..05..04..03..
 Normal operation not possible.
 
  
 
 
 Is this expected behaviour, or a configuration issue? I'd like to have
 the SIMH instance to boot into VMS automatically on server start up if
 possible, as I'm always forgetting to go in there and continue the boot
 process.
 
 My configuration file is as below. Thanks for the help!

If this always happens, then it might be expected behavior, given the pieces 
you are working with. :-)

 ;add CPU microcode
 load -r /usr/local/vax/data/ka655.bin
  
This is slightly suspicious.

The remaining configuration file is fine.

Please explain:
1) What host system you're running on.
2) Where you got the suspicious boot rom image you are loading.

Alternatively:
1) Pick up the latest code from: https://github.com/simh/simh/archive/master.zip
2) Unzip it
3) make vax

Use the resulting BIN/vax simulator AND in your configuration, don't bother 
loading the suspicious ka655.bin.  The current simulator will provide the 
right ROM image and automatically load when you do the boot CPU to start 
execution.  This is only done if you haven't already loaded 'some', possibly 
suspicious, ROM image, so you could still have the same problem even with the 
latest code.  

If this fixes your problem, please remove the suspicious ROM image from your 
host system and either let the automatically generated (and loaded) one be used 
or replace the suspicious ka655.bin on your system (and mentioned in the 
configuration) with the ka655x.bin provided in the current source.

Good Luck,

- Mark

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Re: [Simh] Possibly a n00b configuration error

2014-09-20 Thread Mark Wickens

Thanks for the help Mark.

I compiled up the latest code as suggested and removed the ROM line. I 
wouldn't have thought of doing that myself - I assumed it was needed.


It's now booting through the dead sergeant prompt.
Now I just need to get the networking sorted out!

BTW I am running this under Ubuntu 14.04.

Regards, Mark.

On 20/09/14 13:25, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm wrote:

HI Mark,

On Saturday, September 20, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:

A quick configuration question if I could be so bold. Ever since I can
remember my startup script for the VAX 3900 has halted with an error:

msw@hpm:/usr/local/vax/bin$ sudo ./vax

VAX simulator V3.9-0
NVR: buffering file in memory
Eth: opened OS device eth3
Listening on port 2023 (socket 9)


KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
Performing normal system tests.
40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..

?80 2 17 FF 00 

P1=0100  P2=  P3=  P4=0088  P5=
P6=  P7=  P8=03FC  P9=303FFE00 P10=1FFF
r0=  r1=20088000  r2=  r3=3040  r4=03FF4000
r5=  r6=0400  r7=3000  r8=8000 ERF=8000

08..07..06..05..04..03..
Normal operation not possible.

  


Is this expected behaviour, or a configuration issue? I'd like to have
the SIMH instance to boot into VMS automatically on server start up if
possible, as I'm always forgetting to go in there and continue the boot
process.

My configuration file is as below. Thanks for the help!

If this always happens, then it might be expected behavior, given the pieces 
you are working with. :-)


;add CPU microcode
load -r /usr/local/vax/data/ka655.bin

   
This is slightly suspicious.

The remaining configuration file is fine.

Please explain:
1) What host system you're running on.
2) Where you got the suspicious boot rom image you are loading.

Alternatively:
1) Pick up the latest code from: https://github.com/simh/simh/archive/master.zip
2) Unzip it
3) make vax

Use the resulting BIN/vax simulator AND in your configuration, don't bother loading the 
suspicious ka655.bin.  The current simulator will provide the right ROM image and automatically 
load when you do the boot CPU to start execution.  This is only done if you haven't already 
loaded 'some', possibly suspicious, ROM image, so you could still have the same problem even with 
the latest code.

If this fixes your problem, please remove the suspicious ROM image from your host 
system and either let the automatically generated (and loaded) one be used or replace the 
suspicious ka655.bin on your system (and mentioned in the configuration) with the 
ka655x.bin provided in the current source.

Good Luck,

- Mark



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Re: [Simh] Possibly a n00b configuration error

2014-09-20 Thread khandy21yo

If I remember correctly, simh started out with the ka655 version, which is the 
code from an actual machine. Then  thr rmulatoe was modifies to handle more 
memoet than a real machine rver had, and the ka655x version was cewares0d to 
deal with the extra eam.

If you reduce the nenory configured, the other eom might work.



Sent from Samsung tablet

 Original message 
From Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm m...@infocomm.com 
Date: 09/20/2014  6:25 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To Mark Wickens m...@wickensonline.co.uk,simh@trailing-edge.com 
Subject Re: [Simh] Possibly a n00b configuration error 
 
HI Mark,

On Saturday, September 20, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
 A quick configuration question if I could be so bold. Ever since I can
 remember my startup script for the VAX 3900 has halted with an error:
 
 msw@hpm:/usr/local/vax/bin$ sudo ./vax
 
 VAX simulator V3.9-0
 NVR: buffering file in memory
 Eth: opened OS device eth3
 Listening on port 2023 (socket 9)
 
 
 KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
 Performing normal system tests.
 40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
 24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..
 
 ?80 2 17 FF 00 
 
 P1=0100  P2=  P3=  P4=0088  P5=
 P6=  P7=  P8=03FC  P9=303FFE00 P10=1FFF
 r0=  r1=20088000  r2=  r3=3040  r4=03FF4000
 r5=  r6=0400  r7=3000  r8=8000 ERF=8000
 
 08..07..06..05..04..03..
 Normal operation not possible.
 
  
 
 
 Is this expected behaviour, or a configuration issue? I'd like to have
 the SIMH instance to boot into VMS automatically on server start up if
 possible, as I'm always forgetting to go in there and continue the boot
 process.
 
 My configuration file is as below. Thanks for the help!

If this always happens, then it might be expected behavior, given the pieces 
you are working with. :-)

 ;add CPU microcode
 load -r /usr/local/vax/data/ka655.bin
  
This is slightly suspicious.

The remaining configuration file is fine.

Please explain:
1) What host system you're running on.
2) Where you got the suspicious boot rom image you are loading.

Alternatively:
1) Pick up the latest code from: https://github.com/simh/simh/archive/master.zip
2) Unzip it
3) make vax

Use the resulting BIN/vax simulator AND in your configuration, don't bother 
loading the suspicious ka655.bin.  The current simulator will provide the 
right ROM image and automatically load when you do the boot CPU to start 
execution.  This is only done if you haven't already loaded 'some', possibly 
suspicious, ROM image, so you could still have the same problem even with the 
latest code.  

If this fixes your problem, please remove the suspicious ROM image from your 
host system and either let the automatically generated (and loaded) one be used 
or replace the suspicious ka655.bin on your system (and mentioned in the 
configuration) with the ka655x.bin provided in the current source.

Good Luck,

- Mark

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Re: [Simh] Possibly a n00b configuration error

2014-09-20 Thread Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm
I added the extended memory code to the ka655.bin ROM image.  Extended memory, 
here is support for greater than the 64MB that the hardware and the original 
ka655.bin supported. The original ka655.bin image was slightly patched from the 
original to work better in the simulator (mostly disabling a few tests).

The ka655x.bin changes were intended to replace the original ka655.bin, but 
both were kept in the simh distribution for several versions just in case.  
After several years someone found a bug in the ka655x.bin changes which I 
subsequently fixed.  I'm pretty sure that this change happened after 2008.

To best avoid the problem that Mark Wickens encountered, the latest ka655x.bin 
has been included in the simulator binary.

- Mark

On Sep 20, 2014 11:54 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath rob...@schaffrath.net wrote:
Yes I run the KA655x.BIN version myself dated 3/31/2008.  I believe it is 
patched to allow 64MB (at least that is what I run it with).  It has been a 
long time since I dug into the finer details!

Robert


On 9/20/2014 2:48 PM, khandy21yo wrote:

If I remember correctly, simh started out with the ka655 version, which is the 
code from an actual machine. Then  thr rmulatoe was modifies to handle more 
memoet than a real machine rver had, and the ka655x version was cewares0d to 
deal with the extra eam.

If you reduce the nenory configured, the other eom might work.



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Date: 09/20/2014 6:25 AM (GMT-07:00)
To Mark Wickens 
m...@wickensonline.co.ukmailto:m...@wickensonline.co.uk,simh@trailing-edge.commailto:simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject Re: [Simh] Possibly a n00b configuration error


HI Mark,

On Saturday, September 20, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
 A quick configuration question if I could be so bold. Ever since I can
 remember my startup script for the VAX 3900 has halted with an error:

 msw@hpm:/usr/local/vax/bin$ sudo ./vax

 VAX simulator V3.9-0
 NVR: buffering file in memory
 Eth: opened OS device eth3
 Listening on port 2023 (socket 9)


 KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
 Performing normal system tests.
 40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
 24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..

 ?80 2 17 FF 00 

 P1=0100  P2=  P3=  P4=0088  P5=
 P6=  P7=  P8=03FC  P9=303FFE00 P10=1FFF
 r0=  r1=20088000  r2=  r3=3040  r4=03FF4000
 r5=  r6=0400  r7=3000  r8=8000 ERF=8000

 08..07..06..05..04..03..
 Normal operation not possible.

  


 Is this expected behaviour, or a configuration issue? I'd like to have
 the SIMH instance to boot into VMS automatically on server start up if
 possible, as I'm always forgetting to go in there and continue the boot
 process.

 My configuration file is as below. Thanks for the help!

If this always happens, then it might be expected behavior, given the pieces 
you are working with. :-)

 ;add CPU microcode
 load -r /usr/local/vax/data/ka655.bin
  
This is slightly suspicious.

The remaining configuration file is fine.

Please explain:
1) What host system you're running on.
2) Where you got the suspicious boot rom image you are loading.

Alternatively:
1) Pick up the latest code from: https://github.com/simh/simh/archive/master.zip
2) Unzip it
3) make vax

Use the resulting BIN/vax simulator AND in your configuration, don't bother 
loading the suspicious ka655.bin.  The current simulator will provide the 
right ROM image and automatically load when you do the boot CPU to start 
execution.  This is only done if you haven't already loaded 'some', possibly 
suspicious, ROM image, so you could still have the same problem even with the 
latest code.

If this fixes your problem, please remove the suspicious ROM image from your 
host system and either let the automatically generated (and loaded) one be used 
or replace the suspicious ka655.bin on your system (and mentioned in the 
configuration) with the ka655x.bin provided in the current source.

Good Luck,

- Mark

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