Re: [Simh] 5 Questions (3 Questions Sire) About RSTS/E and Command Line.

[khandy21yo]

If all else rails, you can always have them run simh under Linux.
Assuming they have their own Linux boxes, or vm ...
Many versions of Linux have an old version of simh for easy install (apt-get 
install simh) for Debian and Ubuntu, for example. You would only need to hand 
out a pre-built image and startup file. Os/8?
Dosbox is also available for a msdos she'll
Linux has a boatload of shells to play with. Anyone written dcl for linux?



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 Original message From: Brett Bump  Date: 
10/6/17  1:29 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: HECnet  Cc: SIMH 
 Subject: [Simh] 5 Questions (3 Questions Sire) About 
RSTS/E and Command Line. 

This is mostly for Tim and Paul, but I figured to cross-post in case any
one might have seen this before (before I lob thy Holy Hand Grenade).

1.  In cleaning up some of my old paperwork, I stumbled across a fanfold
.   paper copy of "RSTS/E System Programmer's Notebook" page 3 (no 1-2)
.   followed by Chapters 1-5 and Appendix A, B pages 1-5.  The bottom of
.   the Preface reads:
.
.   "What follows is a sermon, it is not a Gospel."
.
.   A section on the first page of Appendix A has a paragraph that says:
.
.   CAUTION
.   The PPEK sequences described in this (sic. I presume PEEK)
.   document are not a part of the supported
.   functionality of RSTS/E V6C as described
.   in the RSTS/E Software Product Description.
.
Has anyone seen/read this before, know who wrote it, have a digital copy
that could be distributed out, or am I destined to type it back in so all
can read (it is good material on old yellowed crackly fanfold paper)???

2.  I lost a very good friend (coworker) this week to MI (he was 66).  We
.   were coteaching a class online Tuesday night and Wednesday morning he
.   was gone. :(  I have inherited 2 of his classes and wish to do the
.   best job I can for his students, honor his legacy, and live up to the
.   praise and respect he gave me that he disclosed to his students.
.
One of these classes is on command line and the text is linux specific.
While I love my linux machines, there has always been a natural flow when
typing commands on pretty much any DEC OS (a person kind of has to acquire
a little bit of tourette's tics to be competent with *nix).  Can someone
in the group provide me with a few accounts to connect to so his students
can see something other than linux???  I think I used to have an account
on CHIMPY, but that has been a while back.

3.  Does anyone have a current HECnet map, so that said students could
.   see how HECnet is set up and navigate a couple of different machines?

That's all.  Sorry to be such a hermit.  I rarely poke my head out into
the world, but this time I felt it was for a just cause. :-)

Brett
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Re: [Simh] 5 Questions (3 Questions Sire) About RSTS/E and Command Line.

[Richard]

In article ,
Brett Bump  writes:

> [...]  Can someone
> in the group provide me with a few accounts to connect to so his students
> can see something other than linux???  I think I used to have an account
> on CHIMPY, but that has been a while back.

I sent this to Brett individually, but others may be interested to
know that you can request logins on the Living Computer Museum's
machines:

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Re: [Simh] 5 Questions (3 Questions Sire) About RSTS/E and Command Line.

[Paul Koning]

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Brett Bump  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is mostly for Tim and Paul, but I figured to cross-post in case any
> one might have seen this before (before I lob thy Holy Hand Grenade).
> 
> 1.  In cleaning up some of my old paperwork, I stumbled across a fanfold
> .   paper copy of "RSTS/E System Programmer's Notebook" page 3 (no 1-2)
> .   followed by Chapters 1-5 and Appendix A, B pages 1-5.  The bottom of
> .   the Preface reads:
> .
> .   "What follows is a sermon, it is not a Gospel."
> .
> .   A section on the first page of Appendix A has a paragraph that says:
> .
> .   CAUTION
> .   The PPEK sequences described in this (sic. I presume PEEK)
> .   document are not a part of the supported
> .   functionality of RSTS/E V6C as described
> .   in the RSTS/E Software Product Description.
> .
> Has anyone seen/read this before, know who wrote it, have a digital copy
> that could be distributed out, or am I destined to type it back in so all
> can read (it is good material on old yellowed crackly fanfold paper)???

That doesn't ring bells, and I don't seem to have that document in my files.  I 
was part of RSTS/E development at that time, so if it came from there I might 
have seen it but let it slip my memory.

Could you scan a few pages, perhaps the first few and a couple of pages of that 
appendix, so I can see more of the context?  Just a simple photograph is 
probably good enough if you don't have a scanner.

Typing it all in is hard work (I've done it for un-OCR-able listings, 300 
pages).  If the listing is clean, a scan plus OCR will cut the effort very 
considerably.  Or just a scan, since scans are perfectly readable for humans.  
OCR is only necessary if it's code that you want to be able to compile/assemble 
or other kinds of data that need to be processed by some program.  Not too long 
ago I sent an old listing of "BTSS" (RSTS v0) to another person on this list, 
who scanned it very skillfully.  In other words, those capabilities are around.

> 2.  I lost a very good friend (coworker) this week to MI (he was 66).   ...

I'm sorry to hear that.  I don't have answers on your other two questions.

paul

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[Simh] 5 Questions (3 Questions Sire) About RSTS/E and Command Line.

[Brett Bump]

This is mostly for Tim and Paul, but I figured to cross-post in case any
one might have seen this before (before I lob thy Holy Hand Grenade).

1.  In cleaning up some of my old paperwork, I stumbled across a fanfold
.   paper copy of "RSTS/E System Programmer's Notebook" page 3 (no 1-2)
.   followed by Chapters 1-5 and Appendix A, B pages 1-5.  The bottom of
.   the Preface reads:
.
.   "What follows is a sermon, it is not a Gospel."
.
.   A section on the first page of Appendix A has a paragraph that says:
.
.   CAUTION
.   The PPEK sequences described in this (sic. I presume PEEK)
.   document are not a part of the supported
.   functionality of RSTS/E V6C as described
.   in the RSTS/E Software Product Description.
.
Has anyone seen/read this before, know who wrote it, have a digital copy
that could be distributed out, or am I destined to type it back in so all
can read (it is good material on old yellowed crackly fanfold paper)???

2.  I lost a very good friend (coworker) this week to MI (he was 66).  We
.   were coteaching a class online Tuesday night and Wednesday morning he
.   was gone. :(  I have inherited 2 of his classes and wish to do the
.   best job I can for his students, honor his legacy, and live up to the
.   praise and respect he gave me that he disclosed to his students.
.
One of these classes is on command line and the text is linux specific.
While I love my linux machines, there has always been a natural flow when
typing commands on pretty much any DEC OS (a person kind of has to acquire
a little bit of tourette's tics to be competent with *nix).  Can someone
in the group provide me with a few accounts to connect to so his students
can see something other than linux???  I think I used to have an account
on CHIMPY, but that has been a while back.

3.  Does anyone have a current HECnet map, so that said students could
.   see how HECnet is set up and navigate a couple of different machines?

That's all.  Sorry to be such a hermit.  I rarely poke my head out into
the world, but this time I felt it was for a just cause. :-)

Brett
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