Re: [Simh] MIT MTC Docs

2020-01-26 Thread dott.piergiorgio

On 02/01/20 13:16, Al Kossow wrote:
I will be putting a few of the Whirlwind magnetic tape images up on 
bitsavers

later today. I've identified four which appear to be for the "Comprehensive
System" used for non-military programming on tape drive 0. There is a 
utility

program on drum band 11, which is kept read only which reads programs from
tape 0.

I also turned up a bit more in the documentation for the non-military paper
tape numbering system. They used project/programmer numbering. Military 
tapes

seem to be numbered as M or Mx

xxx-xxx-xxx  is project - programmer - number assigned by programmer for 
the paper tape


They don't appear to follow that convention on the military project 
paper tapes.


Being a Military/Naval historian (with an huge select mirror of the DTIC 
Archive..) I can suggest that M(x) can be the DoD contract number.


Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.



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Re: [Simh] MIT MTC Docs

2020-01-26 Thread dott.piergiorgio

On 01/01/20 17:24, Al Kossow wrote:
WW went through a couple of rebuilds, 1953/4 was the big one where they 
added the core memory and a lot of I/O

devices.


it's a spec whose alone put WW into SIMH's (and its CLI and scripting 
configurator) forte.


Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.


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Re: [Simh] MIT MTC Docs

2020-01-01 Thread Al Kossow

On 1/1/20 8:35 AM, Paul Koning wrote:


KO has an interesting history with ferrite devices.


One of the things DEC built early on were core memory testers

Ken and Stan Olsen, Harlan Anderson, Ben Gurley, etc. all worked at Lincoln 
Labs in the 50s

The other interesting thing I found out was that the Whirlwind used magnetic 
logic for core decoding
that Ken invented.




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Re: [Simh] MIT MTC Docs

2020-01-01 Thread Paul Koning


> On Dec 31, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Phil Budne  wrote:
> 
> ...
> Ken Olsen is supposed to have been the MTC designer,
> his signature appears in
> 
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/lincolnLaboratory/mtc/M-2134_MTC_Tests_on_Magnetic_Memory_May1953.pdf

KO has an interesting history with ferrite devices.  The one you mentioned is 
one.  He did work on ferrite core logic devices, which is interesting stuff.  
And it appears he's the inventor of the core rope ROM memory used in the Apollo 
spacecraft.  (At least the name "Olsen" appears in the documentation, so that 
would be him unless there was another Olsen at Lincoln Labs.)

paul

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Re: [Simh] MIT MTC Docs

2020-01-01 Thread Al Kossow

On 12/31/19 4:39 PM, Phil Budne wrote:





A few months ago I had spotted Whirlwind paper tape images on
bitsavers, found one that looked like a binary, and figured out how to
decode it into a 16-bit word, and started on a WWI simulation, but
ran out of steam.


https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-whirlwind-computer-at-chm/
https://computerhistory.org/blog/gambling-on-whirlwind-how-the-us-navy-spent-3-million-and-got-a-computer-game/
https://computerhistory.org/blog/jingle-bits-auditory-maintenance-whirlwind-holiday-songs-the-dawn-of-computer-music/


https://twitter.com/bitsavers/status/1202304085543702528



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Re: [Simh] MIT MTC Docs

2019-12-31 Thread Angelo Papenhoff
On 31/12/19, Phil Budne wrote:
> 
> I subscribe to an RSS feed for bitsavers, and saw things being added
> here:
> 
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/lincolnLaboratory/mtc/
> 
> Surprised to see there was an older file here.  I never would have
> looked for MTC files under Lincoln Labs since, I thought it was
> a part of the Whirlwind project (built to test core memory for WW):
> 
> Ken Olsen is supposed to have been the MTC designer,
> his signature appears in
> 
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/lincolnLaboratory/mtc/M-2134_MTC_Tests_on_Magnetic_Memory_May1953.pdf
> 
> A few months ago I had spotted Whirlwind paper tape images on
> bitsavers, found one that looked like a binary, and figured out how to
> decode it into a 16-bit word, and started on a WWI simulation, but
> ran out of steam.
> 
> In any case, both WWI and MTC now seem like ripe targets for SimH!


The MTC is also very interesting to me, specifically the instruction set
design stages it went through. They had some quite diverging ideas for
it. In the end it ended up very much like the WW1.
In fact I've given a talk about the evolution from the WW1 to the PDP-6
three times this year [1] and wrote a simple WW1 emulator too [2].

I would definitely love to explore this whole topic a bit more! It's
very interesting and exciting. Maybe I'll even make an FPGA whirlwind...


aap

[1] http://pdp-6.net/talks/wwtour_slides.pdf
http://pdp-6.net/talks/wwtour_diagrams.pdf
[2] https://github.com/aap/whirlwind/

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