Re: [Simh] vector images
From the link I posted http://superuser.com/questions/307678/how-to-extract-files-from-msi-package, Lessmsi http://lessmsi.activescott.com/ seems to be a good solution. Requires a Windows system to run, but isn't going to be overwriting anything. // Christian On 17 July 2015 at 15:41, Armistead, Jason BIS jason.armist...@otis.com wrote: Surely it is possible to extract files from SETUP.MSI without running the installer. Someone must have the tools to do this (either commercial or freeware perhaps ?). Another alternative is to run a virtual Windows OS image inside something like VirtualBox, thus avoiding any problems “destroying” your day-to-day Windows host system (if you even have one). I you didn’t specify what Windows version the rimh altairz80 emulator requires, so this may or may not be possible. Other alternatives to VirtualBox might be something like the Bochs IA-32 emulator. *From:* Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Handy *Sent:* Thursday, 16 July 2015 8:50 PM *To:* Dennis Boone *Cc:* simh@trailing-edge.com *Subject:* Re: [Simh] vector images Yes, they are there, in a file called setup.msi, and nowhere else. So, as long as you ahve a windows machine that you don;t care if it installs older file on top of newer ones, I had to re-install too many windows systems because of this, and finding all of the right install pckges, and figuring out the proprt order to reinstall them to get a working system was always a pain. msi is the old install format that comonly had this problem. However, I think I have come up with a painful, roundabout way to extract the files, maybe. If not, I was just curious about its memory mapped video, ans if the flexwriter emulation was useful enough to bother with. If this doesn't work, I'll just have to give up on it. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Dennis Boone d...@msu.edu wrote: Many companies builf computers that used this operating system, like the altair, imsai, osborne, kaypro, and vector graPhics to name a few. Many years later, the rimh altairz80 emulator was written with the abiliry ro emulate the vector graphic machines, but the only copy of the necessary config and disk images was wrapped up in a miceosoft install file called setup.msi. 1. Vector Graphic, no s. 2. Most of the stuff in the altairz80 kits is probably available from vector-archive.org. De ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] vector images
Surely it is possible to extract files from SETUP.MSI without running the installer. Someone must have the tools to do this (either commercial or freeware perhaps ?). Another alternative is to run a virtual Windows OS image inside something like VirtualBox, thus avoiding any problems “destroying” your day-to-day Windows host system (if you even have one). I you didn’t specify what Windows version the rimh altairz80 emulator requires, so this may or may not be possible. Other alternatives to VirtualBox might be something like the Bochs IA-32 emulator. From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Handy Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2015 8:50 PM To: Dennis Boone Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] vector images Yes, they are there, in a file called setup.msi, and nowhere else. So, as long as you ahve a windows machine that you don;t care if it installs older file on top of newer ones, I had to re-install too many windows systems because of this, and finding all of the right install pckges, and figuring out the proprt order to reinstall them to get a working system was always a pain. msi is the old install format that comonly had this problem. However, I think I have come up with a painful, roundabout way to extract the files, maybe. If not, I was just curious about its memory mapped video, ans if the flexwriter emulation was useful enough to bother with. If this doesn't work, I'll just have to give up on it. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Dennis Boone d...@msu.edumailto:d...@msu.edu wrote: Many companies builf computers that used this operating system, like the altair, imsai, osborne, kaypro, and vector graPhics to name a few. Many years later, the rimh altairz80 emulator was written with the abiliry ro emulate the vector graphic machines, but the only copy of the necessary config and disk images was wrapped up in a miceosoft install file called setup.msi. 1. Vector Graphic, no s. 2. Most of the stuff in the altairz80 kits is probably available from vector-archive.orghttp://vector-archive.org. De ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.commailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] vector images
msiexec /a pathtoMSIfile /qb TARGETDIR=pathtotargetfolder From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Armistead, Jason BIS Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:41 AM To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] vector images Surely it is possible to extract files from SETUP.MSI without running the installer. Someone must have the tools to do this (either commercial or freeware perhaps ?). Another alternative is to run a virtual Windows OS image inside something like VirtualBox, thus avoiding any problems “destroying” your day-to-day Windows host system (if you even have one). I you didn’t specify what Windows version the rimh altairz80 emulator requires, so this may or may not be possible. Other alternatives to VirtualBox might be something like the Bochs IA-32 emulator. From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Handy Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2015 8:50 PM To: Dennis Boone Cc: simh@trailing-edge.commailto:simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] vector images Yes, they are there, in a file called setup.msi, and nowhere else. So, as long as you ahve a windows machine that you don;t care if it installs older file on top of newer ones, I had to re-install too many windows systems because of this, and finding all of the right install pckges, and figuring out the proprt order to reinstall them to get a working system was always a pain. msi is the old install format that comonly had this problem. However, I think I have come up with a painful, roundabout way to extract the files, maybe. If not, I was just curious about its memory mapped video, ans if the flexwriter emulation was useful enough to bother with. If this doesn't work, I'll just have to give up on it. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Dennis Boone d...@msu.edumailto:d...@msu.edu wrote: Many companies builf computers that used this operating system, like the altair, imsai, osborne, kaypro, and vector graPhics to name a few. Many years later, the rimh altairz80 emulator was written with the abiliry ro emulate the vector graphic machines, but the only copy of the necessary config and disk images was wrapped up in a miceosoft install file called setup.msi. 1. Vector Graphic, no s. 2. Most of the stuff in the altairz80 kits is probably available from vector-archive.orghttp://vector-archive.org. De ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.commailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] vector images
Well the simplest way is to use the installer service and tell it to extract but not install as that doesn’t require any additional software. Its called an “administrative install” but really it just unpacks.. msiexec /a pathtoMSIfile /qb TARGETDIR=pathtotargetfolder A quick google brought up this list of other tools https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-view-and-extract-contents-from-a-msi-file/ but in any case the specific vector graphic versions of CPM appear to be available as ZIP and self extracting .exe files on the web sites others have pointed to. E.G. http://schorn.ch/altair_5.php has a CPM archive Dave G4UGM From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Armistead, Jason BIS Sent: 17 July 2015 14:41 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] vector images Surely it is possible to extract files from SETUP.MSI without running the installer. Someone must have the tools to do this (either commercial or freeware perhaps ?). Another alternative is to run a virtual Windows OS image inside something like VirtualBox, thus avoiding any problems “destroying” your day-to-day Windows host system (if you even have one). I you didn’t specify what Windows version the rimh altairz80 emulator requires, so this may or may not be possible. Other alternatives to VirtualBox might be something like the Bochs IA-32 emulator. From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Handy Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2015 8:50 PM To: Dennis Boone Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] vector images Yes, they are there, in a file called setup.msi, and nowhere else. So, as long as you ahve a windows machine that you don;t care if it installs older file on top of newer ones, I had to re-install too many windows systems because of this, and finding all of the right install pckges, and figuring out the proprt order to reinstall them to get a working system was always a pain. msi is the old install format that comonly had this problem. However, I think I have come up with a painful, roundabout way to extract the files, maybe. If not, I was just curious about its memory mapped video, ans if the flexwriter emulation was useful enough to bother with. If this doesn't work, I'll just have to give up on it. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Dennis Boone d...@msu.edu mailto:d...@msu.edu wrote: Many companies builf computers that used this operating system, like the altair, imsai, osborne, kaypro, and vector graPhics to name a few. Many years later, the rimh altairz80 emulator was written with the abiliry ro emulate the vector graphic machines, but the only copy of the necessary config and disk images was wrapped up in a miceosoft install file called setup.msi. 1. Vector Graphic, no s. 2. Most of the stuff in the altairz80 kits is probably available from vector-archive.org http://vector-archive.org . De ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com mailto:Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] vector images
Il 16/07/2015 01:12, Kevin Handy ha scritto: I was curious about the vector imges (for altairz80), but the only copy I can find is in a Microsoft install format. However, I don't have a spare windows machine to try unpacking this on. Anyone have copies that are not embedded in a Microsoft install file? I tried extracting them from the file, but ended up with a large number of files with horrible names and no way to translate them. I'm not sure of what you mean with vector images (for altairz80) but perhaps a look on Mr. Schorn itself's page on altairz80 can help, for example, at the end of this one: http://schorn.ch/altair_5.php Best regards from Italy, dott. Piergiorgio. ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] vector images
Many companies builf computers that  used this operating system, like the altair, imsai, osborne, kaypro, and vector graPhics to name a few. Many years later, the rimh altairz80 emulator was written with the abiliry ro emulate the vector graphic machines, but the only copy of the necessary config and disk images was wrapped up in a miceosoft install file called setup.msi. 1. Vector Graphic, no s. 2. Most of the stuff in the altairz80 kits is probably available from vector-archive.org. De ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
Re: [Simh] vector images
Long ago, there was an ooerating system for intel 8080 based machines called cpm. Many companies builf computers that used this operating system, like the altair, imsai, osborne, kaypro, and vector graPhics to name a few. Many years later, the rimh altairz80 emulator was written with the abiliry ro emulate the vector graphic machines, but the only copy of the necessary config and disk images was wrapped up in a miceosoft install file called setup.msi. This file format requires a microsoft windoes setup to extract the files into a ubable form, whike installing many extra libraries ans applications sure to render your windiws machine unusable. What I would like is to get the disk images and config files witgout sacrificing a windows machine, which I would gave to borroe ftom an unsuspecting victim. The install file setup.msi was found by following the instructions in the altairz80 manual. Original message From pigi dott.piergior...@gmail.com Date: 07/16/2015 1:56 AM (GMT-07:00) To simh@trailing-edge.com Subject Re: [Simh] vector images Il 16/07/2015 01:12, Kevin Handy ha scritto: I was curious about the vector imges (for altairz80), but the only copy I can find is in a Microsoft install format. However, I don't have a spare windows machine to try unpacking this on. Anyone have copies that are not embedded in a Microsoft install file? I tried extracting them from the file, but ended up with a large number of files with horrible names and no way to translate them. I'm not sure of what you mean with vector images (for altairz80) but perhaps a look on Mr. Schorn itself's page on altairz80 can help, for example, at the end of this one: http://schorn.ch/altair_5.php Best regards from Italy, dott. Piergiorgio. ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
