Re: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats

2012-12-06 Thread Risto Vaarandi
On 12/05/2012 05:17 AM, John P. Rouillard wrote:

 Currently the output of a state dump (generated with a kill -USR1)
 looks like:

 Rule 1 at line 31 (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED) has matched 6431597 events
 Rule 2 at line 51 (Skip all processing for slapd) has matched 14126179 events
 Rule 3 at line 72 (Dispatch firewall accept lines) has matched 483828 events
 Rule 4 at line 95 (Dispatch firewall rule lines) has matched 167890 events
 Rule 5 at line 115 (jump to timestamp ruleset) has matched 113237 events
 Rule 6 at line 134 (jump to pdu ruleset) has matched 2 events
 Rule 7 at line 150 (Do normal processing) has matched 7538605 events

 I often find myself comparing counts, or summing counts etc. and I am
 wondering if other people would also find this format better:

 Rule 1 at line 31  matched  6431597 events (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED)
 Rule 2 at line 51  matched 14126179 events (Skip all processing for slapd)
 Rule 3 at line 72  matched   483828 events (Dispatch firewall accept lines)
 Rule 4 at line 95  matched   167890 events (Dispatch firewall rule lines)
 Rule 5 at line 115 matched   113237 events (jump to timestamp ruleset)
 Rule 6 at line 134 matched2 events (jump to pdu ruleset)
 Rule 7 at line 150 matched  7538605 events (Do normal processing)

 With this layout it is easier to see that rule 2 is hit the most and
 rule 6 the least. Plus I can use awk/perl to pull field 7 and sum
 them. This will take a little extra processing due to the right
 aligned matched events count, but I don't think this processing would
 be excessively burdensome.

 Thoughts?

Currently I've changed the code and have two versions.
For the first version the output is looking like this:

Rule 1 at line 1 has matched 0 events (ssh event)
Rule 2 at line 10 has matched 0 events (SSH login failure for $:{SSH:3})
Rule 3 at line 18 has matched 0 events ($:{SSH2:time}: SSH login event 
for user $:{SSH2:3} from IP $:{SSH:4} type $:{SSH:2})

Nevertheless, for making the matched and events strings aligned 
across all rows, an extra preliminary loop over the ruleset would be 
required, which would establish the maximum length of the line number 
and match counter. This extra loop is included in the second version:

Rule 1 at line  1 has matched 30 events (ssh event)
Rule 2 at line 10 has matched  0 events (SSH login failure for $:{SSH:3})
Rule 3 at line 18 has matched 30 events ($:{SSH2:time}: SSH login event 
for user $:{SSH2:3} from IP $:{SSH:4} type $:{SSH:2})

Which one would you prefer? The second one is easier to grasp for a 
human eye, but some extra CPU time has to be spent.

kind regards,
risto


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Re: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats

2012-12-06 Thread John P. Rouillard

In message 50c06562.8030...@seb.ee,
Risto Vaarandi writes:
On 12/05/2012 05:17 AM, John P. Rouillard wrote:
 Currently the output of a state dump (generated with a kill -USR1)
 looks like:

 Rule 1 at line 31 (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED) has matched 6431597 events
 Rule 2 at line 51 (Skip all processing for slapd) has matched 14126179 events
 Rule 3 at line 72 (Dispatch firewall accept lines) has matched 483828 events
 Rule 4 at line 95 (Dispatch firewall rule lines) has matched 167890 events
 [...]
 I often find myself comparing counts, or summing counts etc. and I am
 wondering if other people would also find this format better:

 Rule 1 at line 31  matched  6431597 events (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED)
 Rule 2 at line 51  matched 14126179 events (Skip all processing for slapd)
 Rule 3 at line 72  matched   483828 events (Dispatch firewall accept lines)
 [...]
 With this layout it is easier to see that rule 2 is hit the most and
 rule 6 the least. Plus I can use awk/perl to pull field 7 and sum
 them. This will take a little extra processing due to the right
 aligned matched events count, but I don't think this processing would
 be excessively burdensome.

Currently I've changed the code and have two versions.
For the first version the output is looking like this:

Rule 1 at line 1 has matched 0 events (ssh event)
Rule 2 at line 10 has matched 0 events (SSH login failure for $:{SSH:3})
Rule 3 at line 18 has matched 0 events ($:{SSH2:time}: SSH login event 
for user $:{SSH2:3} from IP $:{SSH:4} type $:{SSH:2})

Nevertheless, for making the matched and events strings aligned 
across all rows, an extra preliminary loop over the ruleset would be 
required, which would establish the maximum length of the line number 
and match counter. This extra loop is included in the second version:

Rule 1 at line  1 has matched 30 events (ssh event)
Rule 2 at line 10 has matched  0 events (SSH login failure for $:{SSH:3})
Rule 3 at line 18 has matched 30 events ($:{SSH2:time}: SSH login event 
for user $:{SSH2:3} from IP $:{SSH:4} type $:{SSH:2})

Which one would you prefer? The second one is easier to grasp for a 
human eye, but some extra CPU time has to be spent.

I think I prefer the second. More like a table and easier to scan
(ignoring the line wrap I assume was added by the mailer).  To cut
down on processing time, would it be worthwhile to:

   Cache the max line number (and max rule number) for the rule set
   when the ruleset is read in. That way the processing is done at
   load time not while you are up and running (yes I am assuming
   dynamic reloads will be fewer than status dumps).

   Perhaps some similar cache could be done for the match counter to
   record the maximum number of hits. But I don't like this as much
   as it adds processing steps to the main event processing loop.

Also, to get more info on a line I wonder if the at and has are
required. Is:

  Rule 1 line  1 matched 30 events (ssh event)

as readable? (maybe Rule 1, line...).
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Re: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats

2012-12-06 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Risto Vaarandi wrote:

 Currently I've changed the code and have two versions.
 For the first version the output is looking like this:

 Rule 1 at line 1 has matched 0 events (ssh event)
 Rule 2 at line 10 has matched 0 events (SSH login failure for $:{SSH:3})
 Rule 3 at line 18 has matched 0 events ($:{SSH2:time}: SSH login event
 for user $:{SSH2:3} from IP $:{SSH:4} type $:{SSH:2})

 Nevertheless, for making the matched and events strings aligned
 across all rows, an extra preliminary loop over the ruleset would be
 required, which would establish the maximum length of the line number
 and match counter. This extra loop is included in the second version:

 Rule 1 at line  1 has matched 30 events (ssh event)
 Rule 2 at line 10 has matched  0 events (SSH login failure for $:{SSH:3})
 Rule 3 at line 18 has matched 30 events ($:{SSH2:time}: SSH login event
 for user $:{SSH2:3} from IP $:{SSH:4} type $:{SSH:2})

 Which one would you prefer? The second one is easier to grasp for a
 human eye, but some extra CPU time has to be spent.

The first is easier to generate and to parse, but it's not that much harder. I 
think the human readability of the second is worth the cost.

David Lang

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Re: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats

2012-12-05 Thread Joe Prosser
I Agree.
-Joe

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Boyles, Gary P gary.p.boy...@intel.com wrote:
 John,
 I would say that the 2nd format is most definitely easier to read.
 Gary Boyles

 -Original Message-
 From: John P. Rouillard [mailto:rou...@cs.umb.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:17 PM
 To: simple-evcorr-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats


 Currently the output of a state dump (generated with a kill -USR1)
 looks like:

 Rule 1 at line 31 (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED) has matched 6431597 events
 Rule 2 at line 51 (Skip all processing for slapd) has matched 14126179 events
 Rule 3 at line 72 (Dispatch firewall accept lines) has matched 483828 events
 Rule 4 at line 95 (Dispatch firewall rule lines) has matched 167890 events
 Rule 5 at line 115 (jump to timestamp ruleset) has matched 113237 events
 Rule 6 at line 134 (jump to pdu ruleset) has matched 2 events
 Rule 7 at line 150 (Do normal processing) has matched 7538605 events

 I often find myself comparing counts, or summing counts etc. and I am
 wondering if other people would also find this format better:

 Rule 1 at line 31  matched  6431597 events (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED)
 Rule 2 at line 51  matched 14126179 events (Skip all processing for slapd)
 Rule 3 at line 72  matched   483828 events (Dispatch firewall accept lines)
 Rule 4 at line 95  matched   167890 events (Dispatch firewall rule lines)
 Rule 5 at line 115 matched   113237 events (jump to timestamp ruleset)
 Rule 6 at line 134 matched2 events (jump to pdu ruleset)
 Rule 7 at line 150 matched  7538605 events (Do normal processing)

 With this layout it is easier to see that rule 2 is hit the most and
 rule 6 the least. Plus I can use awk/perl to pull field 7 and sum
 them. This will take a little extra processing due to the right
 aligned matched events count, but I don't think this processing would
 be excessively burdensome.

 Thoughts?

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Re: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats

2012-12-05 Thread David Lang
easier to read, easier to parse, win-win.

David Lang

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Boyles, Gary P wrote:

 John,
 I would say that the 2nd format is most definitely easier to read.
 Gary Boyles

 -Original Message-
 From: John P. Rouillard [mailto:rou...@cs.umb.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:17 PM
 To: simple-evcorr-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Simple-evcorr-users] More table like display of stats


 Currently the output of a state dump (generated with a kill -USR1)
 looks like:

 Rule 1 at line 31 (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED) has matched 6431597 events
 Rule 2 at line 51 (Skip all processing for slapd) has matched 14126179 events
 Rule 3 at line 72 (Dispatch firewall accept lines) has matched 483828 events
 Rule 4 at line 95 (Dispatch firewall rule lines) has matched 167890 events
 Rule 5 at line 115 (jump to timestamp ruleset) has matched 113237 events
 Rule 6 at line 134 (jump to pdu ruleset) has matched 2 events
 Rule 7 at line 150 (Do normal processing) has matched 7538605 events

 I often find myself comparing counts, or summing counts etc. and I am
 wondering if other people would also find this format better:

 Rule 1 at line 31  matched  6431597 events (Clear EVENT_PROCESSED)
 Rule 2 at line 51  matched 14126179 events (Skip all processing for slapd)
 Rule 3 at line 72  matched   483828 events (Dispatch firewall accept lines)
 Rule 4 at line 95  matched   167890 events (Dispatch firewall rule lines)
 Rule 5 at line 115 matched   113237 events (jump to timestamp ruleset)
 Rule 6 at line 134 matched2 events (jump to pdu ruleset)
 Rule 7 at line 150 matched  7538605 events (Do normal processing)

 With this layout it is easier to see that rule 2 is hit the most and
 rule 6 the least. Plus I can use awk/perl to pull field 7 and sum
 them. This will take a little extra processing due to the right
 aligned matched events count, but I don't think this processing would
 be excessively burdensome.

 Thoughts?

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