Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Season's Greetings

2011-12-23 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Matteo Bernardini
matteo.bernard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Chris, best wishes and happy holidays to you and to all the
 other slackers too :)

I'll second that. I much appreciate the quality of the work by Robby
and the rest of the Slackbuilds crew.

/Don Allen

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Why Might a SBo Application Look in /usr/local?

2011-08-29 Thread Donald Allen
The output of


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:
  I've been running R-2.13.0 and decided to upgrade to -2.13.1. I
downloaded
 the new scripts and source, built and upgraded the package. When I try to
 invoke it I see:

 [rshepard@salmo ~]$ R
 -bash: /usr/local/bin/R: No such file or directory

  I've no idea where to look to see where the shell is getting the wrong
 location. I've been using the SlackBuild packages for several versions now
 and haven't before come across this issue.

It's a bit difficult to help with so few details about your system and what
you did to build the new R. I can tell you that I did this same upgrade
today on a Slackware 13.37 x86_64 system, downloading and building the
package from slackbuilds.org with sbopkg, and R 2.13.1 works fine, and the R
executable is in /usr/bin, where you'd expect it to be.


  Any ideas-

To try to help you, I'd be interested in knowing the architecture and
version of the Slackware system you are running and seeing the result of

ls -l /var/adm/packages/R*

cat /var/adm/packages/R-2.13.1*

hash

and

echo $PATH

from the instance of bash giving you the error would be useful.

/Don Allen


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Why Might a SBo Application Look in /usr/local? [SOLVED]

2011-08-29 Thread Donald Allen
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Rich Shepard wrote:

  I've no idea where to look to see where the shell is getting the wrong
 location. I've been using the SlackBuild packages for several versions now
 and haven't before come across this issue.

  Well, I came up with the right idea and looked in ~/.bash_profile. For
 some reason I aliased R to look in /usr/local/bin. Since I installed R from
 the SBo packages over the past few years I've no idea why I did this nor do
 I know why R ran (from /usr/bin) until today.

  I am suitably embarrassed.

Well, you should be; no one else has ever done anything that dumb
before, certainly not me :-) (Believe me, I really am kidding!)

For years, I've talked about writing a book about the various strange
and wonderful ways we screw ourselves with computers (not a
particularly original idea). If you can stand a war story, 35+ years
ago, I worked on and later ran the Tenex project at BBN. BBN was one
of the key companies that built the ARPAnet (the predecessor of the
Internet) and Tenex, an operating system developed by us for the DEC
PDP-10, was the most common host OS on the network. One of the guys in
the Tenex group wrote a backup and archiving system. The first time he
ran it in production, it archived its own executable and source files.
Archived files could only be read by the archiving program. Me: So
should be no problem -- you have a copy of all that stuff on DECTape,
right? Him: Um, no.

/Don


 Mea culpa!

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Fwd: yajl source link broken

2011-08-28 Thread Donald Allen
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Niels Horn niels.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  This is still broken.
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:41 AM
  Subject: yajl source link broken
  To: slackbuilds-users@slackbuilds.org, easu...@gmail.com
 
 
  Following the link to the source file on the page
  http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/libraries/yajl/
  results in a 404 Not Found error.
  /Don Allen
 

 Indeed it is and I could not find a working direct link to the tarball.
 It can be found on github though.


Yes -- I found it there, too, and was able to get the package built.


 I'm copying the maintainer - maybe he knows a better link to the tarball.


Why can't the link on
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/libraries/yajl/ simply be changed to
point to

http://github.com/lloyd/yajl/tarball/2.0.1/lloyd-yajl-2.0.1-0-gf4b2b1a.tar.gz
 ??

That's the file I downloaded. Works fine.

/Don


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Installing gnucash 2.4.5----

2011-08-08 Thread Donald Allen
2011/8/8 Ozan Türkyılmaz ozan.turkyil...@gmail.com

 remove old version and re try the build. It's a known problem without
 a real solution.


Yes, that's certainly good advice. I think this is inherent in the extremely
complex method used to build gnucash from source. I ran into similar
problems trying to build one of the 2.4 series from source with 2.2.9
installed. The advice I got from Derek Atkins, one of the gnucash gurus, was
to either remove the old version or configure with a --prefix != /usr/local.
The former would seem to apply in this case.


 2011/8/8 jamesgilmour jh-gilm...@bigpond.com:
   Hi,
 I'm trying to install gnucash but it doesn't get past the
 bottom of this page.
 I had no problem with gnucash 2.2.9 and then tried the upgrade.
 I followed the dependency compilation instructions without
 apparent difficulty and elected to include 'webkit' and libdb,
 also ok.
 
 Here is the last screen of the 'gnucash'build process before it
 stops.
 Can you help?
 
   after-statement -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686 -Wall -Wunused
   -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations  -Wno-unused   -o gnucash
   gnucash-bin.o  ../../src/libqof/qof/libgnc-qof.la ../../src/core-utils/
 libgnc-core-utils.la ../../src/engine/libgncmod-engine.la ../../src/gnome/
 libgnc-gnome.la 
 ../../src/gnome-utils/libgncmod-gnome-utils.la../../src/app-utils/
 libgncmod-app-utils.la ../../src/gnc-module/libgnc-module.la
   -pthread  -lguile -lltdl -lgmp -lcrypt -lm -lltdl -pthread
   -Wl,--export-dynamic -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lrt
   -lglib-2.0   -pthread -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2
   -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lbonobo-2 -lbonobo-activation
   -lORBit-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0
   -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo
   -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgconf-2 -lgmodule-2.0
   -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0   -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0
   -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0
   -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig
   -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0   -lm  -lm
   libtool: link: gcc -Wdeclaration-after-statement -O2 -march=i486
   -mtune=i686 -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations
   -Wno-unused -o .libs/gnucash gnucash-bin.o -pthread -pthread
   -Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread
   -pthread  ../../src/libqof/qof/.libs/libgnc-qof.so
 ../../src/core-utils/.libs/libgnc-core-utils.so
 ../../src/engine/.libs/libgncmod-engine.so
 ../../src/gnome/.libs/libgnc-gnome.so
 ../../src/gnome-utils/.libs/libgncmod-gnome-utils.so
 ../../src/app-utils/.libs/libgncmod-app-utils.so
 ../../src/gnc-module/.libs/libgnc-module.so /usr/lib/libguile.so
 /usr/lib/libgmp.so
   -lcrypt /usr/lib/libltdl.so /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so /usr/lib/libSM.so
 /usr/lib/libICE.so /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so
 /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so /usr/lib/libpopt.so
 /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so /usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so
 /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so
 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/
 libatk-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so /usr/lib/
 libpangocairo-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so /usr/lib/libcairo.so
 /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/lib/libfreetype.so /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so
 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so /usr/lib/
 libgthread-2.0.so
   -lrt /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -lm -pthread -Wl,-rpath
   -Wl,/usr/lib/gnucash /usr/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-report-gnome.so:
   undefined reference to
   `gnc_html_export' /usr/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-report-gnome.so:
   undefined reference to
   `gnc_html_copy' /usr/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-report-gnome.so: undefined
   reference to `gnc_html_new' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
   make[4]: *** [gnucash] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory
   `/tmp/SBo/gnucash-2.4.5/src/bin' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
   make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/SBo/gnucash-2.4.5/src/bin' make[2]:
   *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory
   `/tmp/SBo/gnucash-2.4.5/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
   make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/SBo/gnucash-2.4.5' make: *** [all]
 
 
 
 
   Error 2 gnucash: Would you like to continue processing the rest of the
   build queue or would you like to abort?  If this failed package is a
   dependency of another package in the queue then it may not make sense
   to continue. (Y)es to continue, (N)o to abort, (R)etry the build?:
   README gnucash-2.4.5.tar.bz2
   gnucash.SlackBuild.build   gnucash.info
   gnucash.info.sbopkg doinst.sh
   gnucash.SlackBuild gnucash.SlackBuild.sbopkg
   gnucash.info.build slack-desc
 
 
   James Gilmour.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-08-07 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:


 I have reached the point where I've had enough problems with slackbuilds
 and I'm tired of the pain of slackware package management (or lack thereof)
 that I'm giving debian a try (I found that I could install it without a
 desktop environment, exactly what I wanted; I just run dwm) and I have to do
 it on the netbook for various reasons. So I no longer have slackware
 installed on that machine, so I won't be able to do further testing in a
 car.


Well, this was an interesting exercise, leaving me sheepishly coming back to
Slackware after a couple of days of experimentation. Having been reminded,
at my advanced age, that convenience exacts a price.

Debian's wireless stuff is flakey on my netbook, a showstopper. It worked,
and then it didn't; config files unchanged and correct, dhcpcd installed
properly. Plus, Debian's packages tend to be old, so for certain
applications where I care about having the most recent version, such as
gnucash, I'd be in the business of building from source, without the help of
slackbuild scripts and dependency information (building gnucash 2.4.7 was
not fun). Then there's the awful Sys V init setup and the general feeling
that Debian is too complicated.

Speaking of complicated, I then I spent some time trying Gentoo, which I
used for a couple of years in the past. Installation is a multi-hour
proposition, especially on a slow machine, and I found that X did not work
correctly on the machine where I tried it. It's also an ongoing maintenance
headache, which is the reason I gave up on it when it was my primary
distribution. Once I started having X problems, that was that.

I didn't even bother with Arch, which I tried a few years ago. Their rolling
release idea means that because they are continuously releasing new stuff,
they can't possibly test the whole system every time something new appears.
And occasionally, something new will appear that will blow up your system if
you install it, at which point you get to boot from a CD and learn how to
use chroot.

I have been running FreeBSD 8.2 on three of my machines and it's a solid
system. But yesterday, I tried to upgrade gnucash to 2.4.7, that version
having appeared in /usr/ports after an update. One of the standard port
management tools (portmaster) failed miserably in managing the upgrade,
leaving me with a gnucash executable that segfaulted immediately. Various
attempts to rescue the situation failed. Getting to gnucash 2.4.7 with
slackware is easy. I have a home-brew make-based tool that I use to wget
slackbuilds, source files, info files, etc. from slackbuilds.org and
whatever it points to. Dependencies are expressed in the makefile. I had
built 2.4.5 using this (that's the current version available from
slackbuilds.org), so all the dependencies were installed, and therefore
upgrading to 2.4.7 was a simple matter of downloading the source tarball and
running the slackbuild script manually. When I realized how easy this was,
compared to what I had been through with debian and freebsd, it dawned on me
that I was heading in exactly the wrong direction, away from from slackware.
So I'm back, chastened. The moral of the story is that while things in the
Slackware world aren't perfect, for my minimalist tastes (I don't run a
desktop environment, just dwm with some of the standard patches, one of
which I contributed), it's better for me than anything else I can find. Live
and learn.

/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-08-07 Thread Donald Allen
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Pierre Cazenave pwcazen...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 07/08/2011 15:01, Donald Allen wrote:

 snip


  I have a home-brew make-based tool that I
 use to wget slackbuilds, source files, info files, etc. from
 slackbuilds.org


 /snip

 I'm sure you're aware, but just in case, there's sbopkg (
 http://www.sbopkg.org) which takes care of a lot of the mundane fetching,
 checking md5sums, checking signatures etc. for building packages from
 SlackBuilds.org. I honestly can't imagine building package for Slackware
 without it since it's queuing functionality means you can figure out the
 build order in a text file and then give it that queue file, set it running
 and forget about it until it's finished.


Yes, I'm aware of it and have it. I'm looking at how to use it, probably in
conjunction with my make-based tool. But thanks for the helpful comments.

/Don

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-08-05 Thread Donald Allen
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Pedro Mendes pe...@gepasi.org wrote:

 Too bad, I had already submitted. I think I can pull it out and will
 wait for further information from you. We can add a patch to the
 slackbuild, this is done in other packages when it cannot be avoided.


Hi --

Sorry it has taken me awhile to get back. We had a family emergency that
took me away for a couple of days.

I have not tested tangogps with the changes I installed as thoroughly as I
would have liked, but the testing I did resulted in no segfaults, which were
pretty easy to provoke before I installed the changes below.

I have reached the point where I've had enough problems with slackbuilds and
I'm tired of the pain of slackware package management (or lack thereof) that
I'm giving debian a try (I found that I could install it without a desktop
environment, exactly what I wanted; I just run dwm) and I have to do it on
the netbook for various reasons. So I no longer have slackware installed on
that machine, so I won't be able to do further testing in a car. But I think
it's safe to install the changes below.

Here are the diffs:

diff src/tile_management.c
/home/dca/Software/tangogps-0.99.4/src/tile_management.c
249a250
   curl_easy_setopt(curl, CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, 1);
diff src/util.c /home/dca/Software/tangogps-0.99.4/src/util.c
111a112
   curl_easy_setopt(curl_handle, CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, 1);
168a170
   curl_easy_setopt(curl_handle, CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, 1);

The left-hand files (in src/) as the originals; the right-hand files are the
ones I modified, adding the calls to curl_easy_setopt.

I hope this helps.

/Don


 thanks
 pedro

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Pedro --
  I should have copied you on this, because you need to be aware of this
  discussion. We don't have an answer yet, but B Watson may have identified
  the problem. I'll be sure to let you know how my testing turns out. Right
  now, even tangogps 0.99.4 (built from source) is unreliable on slackware
  13.37. Hopefully, this will fix the problem. More when I know more.
  /Don
 
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  From: B Watson yalh...@gmail.com
  Date: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 5:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work
  To: SlackBuilds.org Users List slackbuilds-users@slackbuilds.org
 
 
  On 7/31/11, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If you google for 'libcurl error 6 segfault', you get hits involving
 all
  sorts of applications that apparently use curl. Try it. This looks to me
  like a bug in libcurl. So unless you are feeling better, stay in bed.
 This
  appears to be someone else's problem.
 
  This sounds really similar to the issue with uget that I dealt with a
  while back.
 
  If it's the same issue, it can be fixed by adding
 
  curl_easy_setopt(curl, CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, 1);
 
  somewhere in the bit of code that sets the other curl options.
 
  The issue is actually documented in the curl API docs: if curl is
  built with threads but without c-ares support (like the one shipped
  with slackware), the default DNS timeout handling (which uses signals,
  presumably SIGALRM) is unsafe.
 
  Adding to the confusion is that (at least in the case of uget) this
  didn't actually hurt anything on slackware 13.1, but it does on 13.37.
 
  I dunno if you can consider this a bug in curl or not: it's documented,
  but if I were a curl dev, I'd want to fix it (by having CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL
  default to 1 when curl is built without c-ares). Application code can
  set CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, but I don't know how hard it is for a configure
  script or makefile to detect whether curl was built with c-ares, and I
  don't know what happens if you set CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL when using a libcurl
  with c-ares support.
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[Slackbuilds-users] yajl source link broken

2011-08-03 Thread Donald Allen
Following the link to the source file on the page

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/libraries/yajl/

results in a 404 Not Found error.

/Don Allen
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[Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-07-31 Thread Donald Allen
The tangogps slackbuild does not work with gpsd (on a 64-bit 13.37 Slackware
system running on a Toshiba NB305 netbook), also installed from
slackbuilds.org. I am using a GlobalSat BU-353 gps receiver. After starting
gpsd, I run xgps to test, and I get a 3D fix and everything looks normal.
But when I start tangogps, while the chatter it produces indicates that it
has successfully hooked up with gpsd, there is no indication of that in the
map display. Current position is not displayed correctly, and various bits
of data that would normally come from the gps are blank or displayed as
zero, nor does it display your track and heading.

So I decided to download the source from the tangogps website and built and
installed it (configure complained that libsoup was not installed, which I
fixed; it is not mentioned as a dependency on
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/misc/tangogps/; this may have to do
with the version issues I will discuss below). This version works properly
(though it does occasionally seg-fault).

I noticed that the slackbuilds.org package uses tangogps version 0.99.2
(which was released on 12/3/2009) and the version I built from source, the
current version, is 0.99.4 (released 6/25/2010).  I note that the release
notes for 0.99.4 include support for the new gpsd protocol. So perhaps the
failure of the slackbuild is due to tangogps trying to talk old protocol to
gspd, which no longer supports it? (I am running gpsd v2.96, as supplied by
the slackbuild) It appears that gpsd switched to the new protocol with
version 2.90 and from what I can tell from their website, the old protocol
is no longer supported. So I'm guessing that any version of tangogps before
0.99.4 is not going to work with any gpsd version = 2.90. (As I've
indicated, I'm speculating about the cause of the breakage -- I've written
to the tangogps author about this, and if I learn anything further I will
share with this list.)

As for the libsoup issue, perhaps that dependency was introduced after
0.99.2?

In any case, I would recommend updating this slackbuild and the associated
web-page to use the current version, 0.99.4, which I think will solve the
problem. libsoup needs to be added to list of dependencies.

/Don Allen
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-07-31 Thread Donald Allen
2011/7/31 Ozan Türkyılmaz ozan.turkyil...@gmail.com

 2011/7/31 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com:
  http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/misc/tangogps/; this may have to
 do
  with the version issues I will discuss below). This version works
 properly
  (though it does occasionally seg-fault).

 What's the output when it SEGFAULTs.


'Segmentation fault'. No core file, due to the 'core file size' resource
limit defaulting to zero.  Debugging myself looks hopeless (21 comment lines
in almost 8300 lines of C) and I'm not going to put any effort into this
until I hear from the the author, who has been unresponsive thus far (just a
couple of days).

/Don


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-07-31 Thread Donald Allen
2011/7/31 Ozan Türkyılmaz ozan.turkyil...@gmail.com

 2011/7/31 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com:
 
 
  2011/7/31 Ozan Türkyılmaz ozan.turkyil...@gmail.com
 
  2011/7/31 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com:
   http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/misc/tangogps/; this may have
 to
   do
   with the version issues I will discuss below). This version works
   properly
   (though it does occasionally seg-fault).
 
  What's the output when it SEGFAULTs.
 
  'Segmentation fault'. No core file, due to the 'core file size' resource
  limit defaulting to zero.  Debugging myself looks hopeless (21 comment
 lines
  in almost 8300 lines of C) and I'm not going to put any effort into this
  until I hear from the the author, who has been unresponsive thus far
 (just a
  couple of days).

 How about /var/log/messages?



 Jul 30 15:41:32 olympia kernel: [  486.225116] tangogps[2468]: segfault at
 811 ip 7f143b3c2a02 sp 7f142e7f9d58 error 6 in
 libcurl.so.4.2.0[7f143b398000+56000]






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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-07-31 Thread Donald Allen
2011/7/31 Ozan Türkyılmaz ozan.turkyil...@gmail.com

 2011/7/31 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com:
  Jul 30 15:41:32 olympia kernel: [  486.225116] tangogps[2468]: segfault
 at
  811 ip 7f143b3c2a02 sp 7f142e7f9d58 error 6 in
  libcurl.so.4.2.0[7f143b398000+56000]

 Hmm libcurl. But as you said before, without debug symbols, It's
 really hard tyo see where this goes.


Exactly. I proposed to the author that I compile with -g and run under gdb,
but, as I said, unless and until I hear from him, I'm not going to spend any
time on this, since the code is inscrutable, and there's a lot of it.

/Don


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-07-31 Thread Donald Allen
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:53 PM, David Spencer 
baildon.resea...@googlemail.com wrote:

  There is a newer / older version of gpsd in the pending queue (not
  approved yet).
  I'm copying the maintainer to see if he has any idea...

 The gpsd maintainer is lying in bed feeling very very ill and reading
 email with the brightness set to minimum :-(

 gpsd-2.96 has an API change (the function set_raw_hook was removed)
 which means viking-1.1 doesn't build.  That's why I recently submitted
 the downgraded gpsd-2.95.  Both tangogps-0.99-2 and tangogps-0.99.4
 build ok with both gpsd-2.96 and gpsd-2.95.  I don't know of any
 specific changes in gpsd-2.96 that will cause a runtime segfault in
 tangogps.  Because it's difficult to get a satellite fix in bed,
 actual testing of tangogps-0.99.4 will require the gpsd maintainer to
 get out of bed :-/

 digression I've only just noticed there is a problem with SBo's
 viking.info at the moment.  Although the SlackBuild is for version
 1.1, the .info file is still for the old version 0.9.94 /digression

 FWIW, libcurl's error 6 is Couldn't resolve host. The given remote
 host was not resolved. which doesn't sound like the sort of thing
 that would provoke a segfault.



 The gpsd maintainer is now feeling a bit better, having spent the last
 20 minutes thinking about tangogps, viking and gpsd instead of
 migraine.  Maybe later tonight the gpsd maintainer will get out of bed
 :-)


If you google for 'libcurl error 6 segfault', you get hits involving all
sorts of applications that apparently use curl. Try it. This looks to me
like a bug in libcurl. So unless you are feeling better, stay in bed. This
appears to be someone else's problem.

/Don





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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] tangogps slackbuild doesn't work

2011-07-31 Thread Donald Allen
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 5:39 PM, B Watson yalh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7/31/11, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

  If you google for 'libcurl error 6 segfault', you get hits involving
 all
  sorts of applications that apparently use curl. Try it. This looks to me
  like a bug in libcurl. So unless you are feeling better, stay in bed.
 This
  appears to be someone else's problem.

 This sounds really similar to the issue with uget that I dealt with a
 while back.

 If it's the same issue, it can be fixed by adding

 curl_easy_setopt(curl, CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, 1);

 somewhere in the bit of code that sets the other curl options.

 The issue is actually documented in the curl API docs: if curl is
 built with threads but without c-ares support (like the one shipped
 with slackware), the default DNS timeout handling (which uses signals,
 presumably SIGALRM) is unsafe.

 Adding to the confusion is that (at least in the case of uget) this
 didn't actually hurt anything on slackware 13.1, but it does on 13.37.

 I dunno if you can consider this a bug in curl or not: it's documented,
 but if I were a curl dev, I'd want to fix it (by having CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL
 default to 1 when curl is built without c-ares). Application code can
 set CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, but I don't know how hard it is for a configure
 script or makefile to detect whether curl was built with c-ares, and I
 don't know what happens if you set CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL when using a libcurl
 with c-ares support.


Thanks for this -- I'll try it. It sounds like the curl people may not have
chosen the most conservative default, but you concede to not completely
understanding the trade-offs and I know a good deal less than you do about
this, so I will leave this as pure speculation.

I will report back to the list when either

1. I've run tangogps for a good deal longer than the
mean-time-between-segfaults without a crash, or
2. I continue to see segfaults even with the suggested fix installed..

/Don

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] lapack

2011-05-20 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:51 AM, markus reichelt m...@mareichelt.com wrote:
 * Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

 For me, it's no longer a problem; I got it built. My concern is
 just that others might trip over this and waste time figuring out
 what I already did.

 Folks using SBo should know about env variables and how to adapt
 them.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more strongly. The page on
slackbuilds.org says the version is 3.3.0. The info file says the
version is 3.3.0. The source is for 3.3.1, except there is no way to
find that out other than to run the slackbuild script, have it fail,
and then dig through the error messages to find out what went wrong.
That's not normal use of environment variables, that's debugging. I
already did that and am suggesting passing that information on to
others.



 Maybe put a note on the page alerting people that the version has
 changed, the slackbuild awaits updating,

 Too much of a hassle. And quite frankly, users should expect such
 minor inconveniences - life, it's out there.

Changing a web page is too much hassle to save some people some time
and aggravation?


 Also, there's several scripts on SBo that don't get updated just
 because of a new version.

 A bummer for sbopkg users but hardly a show-stopper for the rest of
 us.

You and I have different standards, apparently.


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] lapack

2011-05-20 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM, markus reichelt m...@mareichelt.com wrote:
 * Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

 You and I have different standards, apparently.

 You are not listening.

Ah, what you say must be right, because YOU said it, so if I disagree,
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] lapack

2011-05-19 Thread Donald Allen
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.comwrote:

 The 13.37 version of lapack does not build without a little help. The
 Slackbuild script defaults VERSION to 3.3.0, but the sources are 3.3.1.
 Changing the default or passing in VERSION works. The default should be
 updated.


The lapack.info file pointed to on the

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/libraries/lapack/

page also has the version at 3.3.0.

/Don


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] chicken slackbuild issue

2011-04-23 Thread Donald Allen
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On a 64-bit Slackware 13.1 system, the Chicken (Scheme compiler) slackbuild
 fails if you specify ARCH=x86_64:

 chicken-4.6.0/LICENSE
 chicken-4.6.0/srfi-1.c
 make -f ./Makefile.linux CONFIG= all
 make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/SBo/chicken-4.6.0'
 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `apply-hack.x86_64.S', needed by
 `apply-hack.x86_64.o'.  Stop.
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/SBo/chicken-4.6.0'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 If you don't specify ARCH, it fails differently:

 gcc  -shared -Wl,-soname,libchicken.so \
   -o libchicken.so library.o eval.o data-structures.o ports.o
 files.o extras.o lolevel.o utils.o tcp.o srfi-1.o srfi-4.o srfi-13.o
 srfi-14.o srfi-18.o srfi-69.o posixunix.o regex.o scheduler.o profiler.o
 stub.o expand.o chicken-syntax.o chicken-ffi-syntax.o runtime.o
 apply-hack.x86-64.o -lm -ldl
 gcc  -L. -shared -Wl,-R. setup-download.o -o setup-download.so \
   -lchicken \
   -lm -ldl
 ./libchicken.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[1]: *** [setup-download.so] Error 1
 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 ln -sf libchicken.so libchicken.so.5
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/SBo/chicken-4.6.0'
 make: *** [all] Error 2


I think the second error was caused by my use of parallel make (specifying
-j 4 to make). The chicken README file mentions that parallel make is not
supported and I get the same error when I simply download the 4.6.0 source
tarball and attempt to build it with -j 4. Without -j 4, the slackbuild
works -- builds the slackware package successfully.

/Don


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] [uzbl-dev] Problem downloading gzipped tar files

2011-04-11 Thread Donald Allen
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Robby Workman rwork...@slackbuilds.org wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:56:13 -0400
 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Robby --
 
  Below is a response from one of the uzbl developers to a message I
  sent them, which unfortunately is truncated in his response. The
  issue is that with the uzbl browser, which is built on top of
  webkitgtk, when I download slackbuild tar files, they get
  gunzipped, though the locally stored file is still named
  foo.tar.gz. As mentioned below, I do not see this behavior when
  downloading .tar.gz files from other sites, nor do I see it with
  Firefox. His message explains all this, including asserting that
  slackbuilds.org sending Content-Encoding: gzip is incorrect. If
  you agree that this is an error (in my experience, the uzbl guys
  know what they are talking about when it comes to browser matters,
  web protocols, etc.), please put fixing this on your to-do list.

 I just did a bit of reading on this and it's pretty clear that he's
 right. Content-Encoding: gzip asks the browser to gunzip what the
 server sends. Whatever Firefox is doing is a heuristic, a hack to
 avoid uncompressing .tar.gz files even if the server says
 Content-Encoding: gzip incorrectly.


 That sounds right; the problem is that RemoveEncoding (which I'm
 pretty sure works as expected on httpd-2.x) doesn't seem to do
 what I think it should on apache-1.x.

 Until/unless we either figure out the required magic, or upgrade
 to a later release of Slackware (which probably won't happen
 unless we get new hardware), wget or some other browser is my
 recommended solution :-)

The automated (make-based) thing I use to obtain packages from
slackbuilds.org uses wget, so except in oddball cases (such as
flash-plugin, which generates a slackware package with a version
number different than that in the .info file) where I need to do
things manually, it's not an issue. And now that I know what's going
on, I use firefox instead of uzbl in situations like that, so it's not
an operational problem for me. I just wanted to get it on your list
because others might trip over it. Too bad apache isn't cooperating --
thanks for trying.

/Don

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[Slackbuilds-users] Fwd: [uzbl-dev] Problem downloading gzipped tar files

2011-04-07 Thread Donald Allen
Robby --

Below is a response from one of the uzbl developers to a message I
sent them, which unfortunately is truncated in his response. The issue
is that with the uzbl browser, which is built on top of webkitgtk,
when I download slackbuild tar files, they get gunzipped, though the
locally stored file is still named foo.tar.gz. As mentioned below, I
do not see this behavior when downloading .tar.gz files from other
sites, nor do I see it with Firefox. His message explains all this,
including asserting that slackbuilds.org sending Content-Encoding:
gzip is incorrect. If you agree that this is an error (in my
experience, the uzbl guys know what they are talking about when it
comes to browser matters, web protocols, etc.), please put fixing this
on your to-do list.

By the way, my earlier message about the flash-plugin slackbuild may
have been a result of this problem. I don't remember if I tried
downloading it with firefox. If I didn't, the file may actually have
been ok and was delivered uncompressed to me because of the above
issue.

Thanks --
/Don


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From: Dan Winship d...@gnome.org
Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [uzbl-dev] Problem downloading gzipped tar files
To: Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
Cc: uzbl-...@lists.uzbl.org


On 04/06/2011 11:24 PM, Donald Allen wrote:
 uzbl, what I end up with is the tar file gunzip-ed, but it is still
 named foo.tar.gz. For example, go to

 http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/academic/ess/

 and click the 'ess.tar.gz' link. Unless there's something about my
 setup that's causing this, you will get an ess.tar.gz file that is
 actually an uncompressed tar file. Doing the same with Firefox 3.6.15
 results in a
 gzipped tar file, as one would expect.

 I do not see this behavior when downloading gzipped tar files from
 some other sites, e.g., gnucash.org.

It's because slackbuilds is sending Content-Encoding: gzip, which is
wrong. Other browsers work around this, but WebKitGTK doesn't.

There's a bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613361. We
never got around to figuring out exactly how Firefox is special-casing
this, so it never got fixed.

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] [uzbl-dev] Problem downloading gzipped tar files

2011-04-07 Thread Donald Allen
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robby --

 Below is a response from one of the uzbl developers to a message I
 sent them, which unfortunately is truncated in his response. The issue
 is that with the uzbl browser, which is built on top of webkitgtk,
 when I download slackbuild tar files, they get gunzipped, though the
 locally stored file is still named foo.tar.gz. As mentioned below, I
 do not see this behavior when downloading .tar.gz files from other
 sites, nor do I see it with Firefox. His message explains all this,
 including asserting that slackbuilds.org sending Content-Encoding:
 gzip is incorrect. If you agree that this is an error (in my
 experience, the uzbl guys know what they are talking about when it
 comes to browser matters, web protocols, etc.), please put fixing this
 on your to-do list.

I just did a bit of reading on this and it's pretty clear that he's
right. Content-Encoding: gzip asks the browser to gunzip what the
server sends. Whatever Firefox is doing is a heuristic, a hack to
avoid uncompressing .tar.gz files even if the server says
Content-Encoding: gzip incorrectly.

/Don


 By the way, my earlier message about the flash-plugin slackbuild may
 have been a result of this problem. I don't remember if I tried
 downloading it with firefox. If I didn't, the file may actually have
 been ok and was delivered uncompressed to me because of the above
 issue.

 Thanks --
 /Don


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 From: Dan Winship d...@gnome.org
 Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [uzbl-dev] Problem downloading gzipped tar files
 To: Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
 Cc: uzbl-...@lists.uzbl.org


 On 04/06/2011 11:24 PM, Donald Allen wrote:
 uzbl, what I end up with is the tar file gunzip-ed, but it is still
 named foo.tar.gz. For example, go to

 http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/academic/ess/

 and click the 'ess.tar.gz' link. Unless there's something about my
 setup that's causing this, you will get an ess.tar.gz file that is
 actually an uncompressed tar file. Doing the same with Firefox 3.6.15
 results in a
 gzipped tar file, as one would expect.

 I do not see this behavior when downloading gzipped tar files from
 some other sites, e.g., gnucash.org.

 It's because slackbuilds is sending Content-Encoding: gzip, which is
 wrong. Other browsers work around this, but WebKitGTK doesn't.

 There's a bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613361. We
 never got around to figuring out exactly how Firefox is special-casing
 this, so it never got fixed.

 -- Dan

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] flash-plugin

2011-04-05 Thread Donald Allen
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Robby Workman rwork...@slackbuilds.org wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:10:35 -0400
 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

 The flash-player-plugin SlackBuild (flash-player-plugin.tar.gz)
 referenced

 http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/

 is not gzipped. It's an ordinary tar file. This confuses some
 automated stuff I've built to deal with packages from slackbuilds.org
 that expects .tar.gz files to be what they say they are -- gzipped.


 Fixed; thanks!

Thank you!

/Don


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[Slackbuilds-users] Fwd: Dangling postgresql source pointer

2011-02-19 Thread Donald Allen
I sent this message 11 days ago and it is still broken. The fix is
simple -- point to 9.0.3 instead.

/Don


-- Forwarded message --
From: Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:59 PM
Subject: Dangling postgresql source pointer
To: slackbuilds-users@slackbuilds.org


The link

ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v9.0.1/postgresql-9.0.1.tar.bz2

to the source on the page

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/postgresql/

does not work; the v9.0.1 directory no longer exists. v9.0.2 and
v9.0.3 are available.

/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Fwd: Dangling postgresql source pointer

2011-02-19 Thread Donald Allen
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Erik Hanson e...@slackbuilds.org wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:17:02 -0500
 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I sent this message 11 days ago and it is still broken. The fix is
 simple -- point to 9.0.3 instead.

 This needs to go to the maintainer of postgresql, who may not be
 subscribed to this list.

It did (take a careful look at the addressees on the message I sent).

/Don



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[Slackbuilds-users] Dangling postgresql source pointer

2011-02-08 Thread Donald Allen
The link

ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v9.0.1/postgresql-9.0.1.tar.bz2

to the source on the page

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/postgresql/

does not work; the v9.0.1 directory no longer exists. v9.0.2 and
v9.0.3 are available.

/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Spam - is it only me?

2010-12-07 Thread Donald Allen
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Niels Horn niels.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Martin Pagnan mpag...@acanac.net wrote:
  Hi,
  I have suddenly been flooded with spam. I am trying to understand how my
  email address got into the hands of nasties. I recently joined
 Slackbuilds
  Users List and I notice that the content is searchable through Google
  together with the email addresses in the format someone at mail
 site.
  It is by now a pretty old and easy trick to parse  at  as @ and to try
 the
  address.
 
  Is anyone else at the site experiencing problems?

 Not more than normal... My e-mail address has been on the internet for
 years, through newsgroups, forums, etc.
 But my spam-filter works well. I get the occasional false-positive,
 but I can live with that.


Same with me. Spam arrival rate is normal, mostly taken care of by gmail's
excellent spam filter.

/Don



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[Slackbuilds-users] libtasn1 source link broken

2010-10-08 Thread Donald Allen
The link to the source on

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/libtasn1/

is broken.

/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] make -j -l

2010-06-20 Thread Donald Allen
Thanks for the responses. I guess you've convinced me that setting -j as a
function of cores/hyperthreading is probably a bad idea.

Question: the gnu make man page and the info writeup are not clear on the
effect of MAKEFLAGS. There's a lot of chatter about sub-makes, but it is not
clear that

env MAKEFLAGS='-j 4' make

is equivalent to

make -j 4

If anyone knows definitively, plz let me know. Otherwise, I'll get the
answer by experiment.

But if the above equivalence holds, then I agree that there's no need to
modify the slackbuild scripts.

/Don
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[Slackbuilds-users] fotoxx problem

2010-05-21 Thread Donald Allen
On the page

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/graphics/fotoxx/

if you click the

fotoxx-9.9.tar.gz

link, you get a Page not found error.

/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] fotoxx problem

2010-05-21 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Niels Horn niels.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the page

 http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/graphics/fotoxx/

 if you click the

 fotoxx-9.9.tar.gz

 link, you get a Page not found error.

 /Don

 Newer versions were released since the SlackBuild was approved.
 Have you tried using the script with the newer tarballs from here:
 http://kornelix.squarespace.com/downloads/

Thanks for the pointer, but my main purpose in sending the message was
to alert Robby et al that the source link on this page was dangling.

/Don


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Call for testing: Latest Opera snapshot

2010-05-15 Thread Donald Allen
Have any of you run opera and top at the same time? I tried opera for
the umpteenth time a few months ago on a Linux system and found that
while it worked, the processor utilization was extremely high, much
higher than Firefox. I've also seen complaints about this on opera
user groups. So, for the umpteen+1th time, I gave up on it. I'd be
curious to know if any of you are seeing the same thing.

/Don

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM, vvoody wxj.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: Šime Ramov s...@ramov.com
 Subject: [Slackbuilds-users] Call for testing: Latest Opera snapshot
 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:56:20 +0200 (CEST)
 Message-ID: 1273773380.87676...@192.168.2.228

 Hello - I created a new Opera SlackBuild targeting latest snapshot, 6336
 as of this writing. It is available here:

 http://dl.slackfu.com/opera.tar.gz

 Unix installer script is completely rewritten. More about latest
 packaging:

 http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/new-opera-unix-packages-arrive-deb-rpm-tar

 Prefix is hard coded (in addition to other annoyances like no DESTDIR
 support) and they actually recommend using the .deb archive and re-
 packaging that until they release a more capable install script.

 Please note Opera no longer depends on QT -- they use they own native
 libraries.


 Comments welcome. Thanks!

 Works, thank you Ramov.
 Opera's installation script gets even weirder.
 Now we have to generate the slack package by depending on the deb pkg. LOL...
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] postgresql again

2010-04-15 Thread Donald Allen
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Tim Dickson dickson@googlemail.com wrote:
 just a thought..

 It should be easy enough to just echo instructions using doinst.sh
 That way the end user/installer gets to know how to get things working,
 without the package interfering and doing it for them.
 Either that, or (or as well) include the instructions in an rc. file as
 comments, in the same way that the mysql package already does.

And (as I mentioned in my original post) in the README.SBo, together
with the instructions for how to initialize the database. I agree with
Robby that this isn't quite a bug -- it's more a documentation
issue. And despite what you've said above, if it turns out to be
inconvenient or undesirable to have the package check for the presence
of the postgres group and user at install time, anyone installing
postgresql is going to have to consult the README.SBo to know how to
edit rc.local/rc.local_shutdown get the server running/stopped and the
database initialized. So having the information about the needed group
and user there seems like the natural place to put it. I'd be happy
with just that. If the package can do the check at install time, so
much the better.

/Don


 Tim

 On 15/04/2010 03:22, Robby Workman wrote:

 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:03:30 -0400
 Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:



 When you run the postgresql.SlackBuild, you get reminded that you need
 to create a postgres group and user and you are given the commands to
 do so. You comply, the postgres package builds, you install it, and
 then get it running following the instructions in README.SBo.

 Some time later, you use the resulting package to try to install
 postgresql on another system. It installs, but when you attempt to get
 it running, you can't, because you need to create the postgres group
 and user, which you find out when you attempt to do

 su postgres -c initdb -D /var/lib/pgsql/data

 Except the error you get doesn't tell you how to fix the problem. So
 maybe you remember enough from when you originally built the package
 to dig through the postgresql.SlackBuild and figure it out.

 My point is this: the reminders to create the group and user should
 not occur at build time, they should occur at install time (or maybe
 both, if they are really needed at build time). At the very least, the
 README.SBo ought to tell you that the group- and user-creation is
 needed and how to do it. It seems to be assuming that this has already
 been done, which it may not be, if you are installing a package that
 you created on a different system six months ago.

 This issue is similar in nature to the issue I had with the gnucash
 package: the package is not self-contained and should be.


 This one is a WONTFIX, if only because I don't see it as a bug.

 That's not to say that I don't see your point -- I do -- but
 there's not any obvious way that we can do this better without
 adding some badness.  By badness, I mean: we are not going
 to have postinstall scripts create users and/or groups on the
 system.

 In essence, this is one of those things that's going to have to
 be documented by the system admin in a local ChangeLog or some
 such and then consulted when doing new installs.

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[Slackbuilds-users] postgresql again

2010-04-14 Thread Donald Allen
When you run the postgresql.SlackBuild, you get reminded that you need
to create a postgres group and user and you are given the commands to
do so. You comply, the postgres package builds, you install it, and
then get it running following the instructions in README.SBo.

Some time later, you use the resulting package to try to install
postgresql on another system. It installs, but when you attempt to get
it running, you can't, because you need to create the postgres group
and user, which you find out when you attempt to do

su postgres -c initdb -D /var/lib/pgsql/data

Except the error you get doesn't tell you how to fix the problem. So
maybe you remember enough from when you originally built the package
to dig through the postgresql.SlackBuild and figure it out.

My point is this: the reminders to create the group and user should
not occur at build time, they should occur at install time (or maybe
both, if they are really needed at build time). At the very least, the
README.SBo ought to tell you that the group- and user-creation is
needed and how to do it. It seems to be assuming that this has already
been done, which it may not be, if you are installing a package that
you created on a different system six months ago.

This issue is similar in nature to the issue I had with the gnucash
package: the package is not self-contained and should be.

/Don
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[Slackbuilds-users] A nit

2010-04-05 Thread Donald Allen
Here's another little nit that will be easy to fix.

On the gnucash page:

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/business/gnucash/

there is a list of dependencies. I copied that list to paste into a

for lib in slib libofx .
do
little script to build and install the lib
done

This didn't work quite right because the name of the ORBit2 library
incorrectly has a lower-case 'b' on that page -- 'ORbit2'. So the
build of that library fails, as does the subsequent build of GConf,
because ORBit2 isn't installed. I'd suggest fixing that little typo,
so someone else doesn't get bitten by this.

Thanks --
/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] postgresql

2010-04-05 Thread Donald Allen
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Ben Mendis dragonwis...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Adis Nezirovic a...@linux.org.ba wrote:

 Preserving mode for existing scripts is OK, but I personally think that
 the default for new scripts should be 0644. Admin should run chmod +x
 manually.

 I don't disagree that the Admin is ultimately responsible for making sure
 it's correctly configured, but I don't agree that the admin should be forced
 to do everything manually (especially things that could be so trivially
 scripted) as a general policy. IMHO, sane automation of the configuration
 (such as adopting the same permissions as the version being replaced) are
 preferable. This is especially useful in systems where the updates might be
 happening unattended.

 (Of course, in the absence of automation 0644 is a better default than
 0755.)

Exactly. Slavish worship of doing things manually *where there's no
clear benefit to doing so* doesn't make sense and this is one of those
cases.

Slackware seems devoted to finding a sensible balance in this area,
automating where it's useful (by making things easier or less
error-prone for the sys-admin) but not overdoing it (having things
happen behind the scenes that a sys-admin might want to know about
and/or control). I'm in the process of installing Slackware on four
systems for my personal use, and so far it feels like the decisions
relating to this issue have been very well thought out (which doesn't
surprise me, given the years of experience Patrick Volkerding brings
to the Linux-distribution problem).

/Don



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[Slackbuilds-users] gnucash 2.2.9 dependencies

2010-04-02 Thread Donald Allen
If you load just the dependencies (from a combination of
slackbuilds.org and a gnomeslackbuild.org mirror) specified on the
gnucash 2.2.9 page, namely

slib libofx ORbit2 GConf libtasn1 gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data libbonobo
gnome-vfs libgnomecanvas libgnome libbonoboui libgnomeui libgnomecups
libgnomeprint libgnomeprintui gtkhtml goffice

gnucash will not build. You get the following error:

-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0
-lpangocairo-1.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgconf-2
-lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lgmodule-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0   -pthread
-Wl,--export-dynamic -lgtkhtml-3.14 -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lglade-2.0
-lenchant -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt
-lbonobo-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lgconf-2
-lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
-lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lcairo
-lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-lglib-2.0   -pthread -L/usr/lib64 -lguile -lltdl -lgmp -lcrypt -lm
-lltdl -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0
-lglade-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0
-lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0
-pthread -L/usr/lib64 -lguile -lltdl -lgmp -lcrypt -lm -lltdl -pthread
-Wl,--export-dynamic -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-lglib-2.0../../lib/libqof/qof/libgnc-qof.la -lgoffice-0.8 -lgsf-1
-lglade-2.0 -lart_lgpl_2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
-lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfreetype
-lfontconfig -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-lglib-2.0-lxml2   -lX11  -lpopt -lm  -lm
grep: /usr/lib64/libavahi-glib.la: No such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib64/libavahi-glib.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib64/libavahi-glib.la' is not a valid libtool archive

I fixed this by installing

avahi-0.6.25-x86_64-8gsb.txz

from ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/gsb/gsb64-2.26_slackware64-13.0/gsb64/a/

I suggest that this be added to the dependencies on the gnucash page.

Thanks very much for the excellent service you provide! I've just
returned to Slackware, having used in it in the early 1990s, when it
was the distribution of choice (it might have been the only choice --
I don't remember). I want my computing environment very minimal -- a
window manager (dwm) and the apps I need, nothing more. So need a
distribution that gives me a lot of control and lets me build from the
ground up. I've been using Arch, but their rolling release scheme is a
bad idea. Periodically, updating your Arch system will blow it up (I'm
talking about so screwed up that the only choice is to re-install).
Given that their system is constantly changing, I think it's
impossible for them to thoroughly test each new configuration, and the
result is an unstable system. I've ignored Slackware, because of the
lack of so-called modern package management. But I decided to give
it a try when I finally got fed up with Arch, and was pleasantly
surprised at how easy it is to get what I need installed and working,
with much help from your site.

/Don Allen
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[Slackbuilds-users] postgresql

2010-04-02 Thread Donald Allen
Here's another one, given that I performed so brilliantly on the first
submission.

The postgresql page says:

Before you can run postgresql you'll need to create the database;
please see README.SBo.

README.SBo instructs you to add

# Startup postgresql
if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql ]; then
/etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql start
fi

to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. But this doesn't work (the postgres server
doesn't start) because /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql doesn't have execute
permission after installing the postgresql package that results from
running postgresql.SlackBuild.

Simply doing the obvious

chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql

in a root shell fixes the problem, but, of course, that shouldn't be
necessary. I think the SlackBuild script, or, more likely, its
associated doinst.sh, or the permissions on  the
postgresql/rc.postgresql.new (644) that results from from un-tarring
the downloaded postgresql.tar.gz needs a little tweaking.

/Don
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] gnucash 2.2.9 dependencies

2010-04-02 Thread Donald Allen
My apologies -- you are right. I'm not sure how I did this, but I
managed to convince myself that not all of gnucash's required gnome
libraries were present on slackbuilds.org (perhaps a copy-paste
error?). It looks like they are. So with this incorrect notion in my
head, I got the libraries from gsb. Different versions and thus the
avahi dependency. Actually, there's another one that shows up at boot
time -- avahi depends on libdaemon. Anyway, false alarm.

/Don

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Robby Workman rwork...@slackbuilds.org wrote:
 On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:28:24 -0600
 Vincent Batts vba...@hashbangbash.com wrote:

 Thanks for the input. Have you tried just compiling the requirements
 listed, only pulling from slackbuilds.org, on a slackware{,64}-13.0
 system? the avahi is not needed then.


 I'm adding Don to CC because he isn't (or at least wasn't)
 subscribed to the list when he sent this.

 As Batts said, this should all be fine *if* the dependencies
 are built on a clean system.  It sounds like something in
 the GSB package list requires avahi, so when gnucash tries
 to link that, the missing avahi is noticed.

 -RW

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] postgresql

2010-04-02 Thread Donald Allen
I do note that the README.SBo says make sure rc.postgresql is
executable, which I overlooked on first reading. I still think this
is a bug, or at least an inconvenience. Why require the user to add
execute permission? The installation should just take care of it.

/Don

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's another one, given that I performed so brilliantly on the first
 submission.

 The postgresql page says:

 Before you can run postgresql you'll need to create the database;
 please see README.SBo.

 README.SBo instructs you to add

 # Startup postgresql
 if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql ]; then
        /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql start
 fi

 to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. But this doesn't work (the postgres server
 doesn't start) because /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql doesn't have execute
 permission after installing the postgresql package that results from
 running postgresql.SlackBuild.

 Simply doing the obvious

 chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql

 in a root shell fixes the problem, but, of course, that shouldn't be
 necessary. I think the SlackBuild script, or, more likely, its
 associated doinst.sh, or the permissions on  the
 postgresql/rc.postgresql.new (644) that results from from un-tarring
 the downloaded postgresql.tar.gz needs a little tweaking.

 /Don

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