Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-17 Thread Willy Sudiarto Raharjo
> Go ahead and submit it as-is (listing jack-audio-connection-kit in
> REQUIRES), if you're ready to. I will wait until Willy's regular weekly
> update is done, before making any changes.

You can start in a separate branch and mark it as nomerge (or other
names that clearly state that i should not merge it) and once you are
done, merge it to your branch so i know it can be safely merged in the
next public update.


-- 
Willy Sudiarto Raharjo



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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-16 Thread B Watson
On 1/16/20, Christoph Willing  wrote:
>
> Is there a timetable for this?

Probably over the weekend, with final update Sunday or possibly Monday. I
had thought it would take longer since there are so many builds, but
apparently I'm not the only one who quietly upgraded to jack2. I want
to check a few of my own (stuff I haven't used recently), but I have
some time to do it in the next day or so.

> Will all the renaming changes happen automagically in the background
> sometime or will maintainers each have to apply them to their own
> SlackBuilds?

Automagic is the order of the day. The only thing maintainers will want
to check is the formatting of their READMEs, if jack-audio-connection-kit
is mentioned there (usually as an optional dependency). The replacement
name is much shorter, so I'll reflow the text, but everyone should
double-check & make sure it looks good to them.

I won't be doing it all in one huge commit. Each build will get its
own git commit, meaning they can be rolled back or otherwise adjusted
without making a mess in the log.

> One of my SlackBuilds currently needs updating to a new
> version (though not urgently). How to proceed - should I incorporate any
> jack related changes now or sit tight?

Go ahead and submit it as-is (listing jack-audio-connection-kit in
REQUIRES), if you're ready to. I will wait until Willy's regular weekly
update is done, before making any changes.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-16 Thread Christoph Willing
On 15/1/20 8:16 am, B Watson wrote:
>
> So I propose to do this:
> 
> - Rename jack-audio-connection-kit to jack1-legacy.
> - Rename jack2 to jack.
> - Update all .info files and READMEs that mention jack-audio-connection-kit,
>   so they say "jack" instead.
> - Eventually, get rid of jack1-legacy from our repo. No hurry on this.
>

Is there a timetable for this?

I've checked all my own relevant SlackBuilds as being OK for the change
(and klaatu seems to have already checked most/all others).

Will all the renaming changes happen automagically in the background
sometime or will maintainers each have to apply them to their own
SlackBuilds? One of my SlackBuilds currently needs updating to a new
version (though not urgently). How to proceed - should I incorporate any
jack related changes now or sit tight?

chris
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-16 Thread Christoph Willing
On 15/1/20 8:30 am, Christoph Willing wrote:
> On 15/1/20 8:16 am, B Watson wrote:
>>
>> Here's a list of all the builds that currently depend on
>> jack-audio-connection-kit (REQUIRES or mentioned in the README), broken
>> out by maintainer. If your name is on this list, please let me know you
>> got this message...
>>
>> Christoph Willing 
>> graphics/Blender
>> graphics/vsxu
>> multimedia/obs-studio
>> multimedia/openshot
>> multimedia/vlc
>>
> 
> OK, I'll check these in the next few days.
> 

All checked OK.

chris
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-15 Thread Dave Woodfall
On 2020-01-14 17:16,
B Watson  put forth the proposition:

> David Woodfall 
> audio/lash

Will do.

-daw


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-15 Thread Franzen

Hi,


- Update all .info files and READMEs that mention jack-audio-connection-kit,
   so they say "jack" instead.


.. and make jack2 saying jack also.

I did some testing a while ago, consider my builds working with jack2, 
i'll tell if i find issues with jack2.



If your name is on this list, please let me know you
got this message...


Got the message.

Johannes
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-15 Thread Felix Pfeifer



On 1/14/20 11:55 PM, Klaatu wrote:
...
> I have also tested, extensively, these applications with jack2 (by running 
> them on either my computer or computers I maintain for band mates and 
> collaborators):
...
> * Felix Pfeifer  * audio/muse
>  

Thanks for testing!

I tested these:

Felix Pfeifer 
audio/SuperCollider
audio/Pd-extended
Michales Michaloudes 
audio/pd

They all work with jack2. For pd/Pd-extended jack is an
optional dependency.

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-14 Thread Μιχάλης Μιχαλούδης
15 Ιαν 2020, 12:55 πμ, ο χρήστης «Klaatu » έγραψε:

>> On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 05:16:35 PM B Watson wrote:
>> 
>> Maintainers of builds that depend on jack-audio-connection-kit, you
>> can help by installing jack2 (instead of jack-audio-connection-kit)
>> and testing your builds with it. If things fail to build, or run
>> incorrectly, and you get stuck trying to fix them, contact me by email
>> or IRC (freenode, user Urchlay) and I'll attempt to help you out.
>> 
>> Here's a list of all the builds that currently depend on
>> jack-audio-connection-kit (REQUIRES or mentioned in the README), broken
>> out by maintainer. If your name is on this list, please let me know you
>> got this message...

Thank you about your care and your solution. (I also prefer jack name over 
jack-audio-connection-kit)

I had a no-go problem (years ago) with jack2 but I don’t remember anything 
about the problem.

I don’t have too much time, but I will try to migrate to jack2 and test my 
builds.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-14 Thread Klaatu
On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 05:16:35 PM B Watson wrote:
> So I've been thinking about this, and talking to upstream JACK
> developers...
> 
> We current have jack-audio-connection-kit (JACK version 1.x) and jack2
> (version 2.x). I maintain both builds these days...
> 
> Upstream considers version 1 to be archaic, and it'll only be updated if
> major issues are discovered (e.g. security fixes). They say nobody should
> still be using jack1, and if something that works on jack1 doesn't work
> on jack2, that's a bug in jack2 that should be reported.
> 
> So I propose to do this:
> 
> - Rename jack-audio-connection-kit to jack1-legacy.
> - Rename jack2 to jack.
> - Update all .info files and READMEs that mention jack-audio-connection-kit,
> so they say "jack" instead.
> - Eventually, get rid of jack1-legacy from our repo. No hurry on this.
> 
> Why not rename jack2 to jack-audio-connection-kit? Because the switchover
> is already going to cause enough confusion without also having the names
> clash. Also, upstream refers to it as "jack" these days.
> 
> Maintainers of builds that depend on jack-audio-connection-kit, you
> can help by installing jack2 (instead of jack-audio-connection-kit)
> and testing your builds with it. If things fail to build, or run
> incorrectly, and you get stuck trying to fix them, contact me by email
> or IRC (freenode, user Urchlay) and I'll attempt to help you out.
> 
> Here's a list of all the builds that currently depend on
> jack-audio-connection-kit (REQUIRES or mentioned in the README), broken
> out by maintainer. If your name is on this list, please let me know you
> got this message...
> 

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Amazing, I LOVE this solution. Welcome to 2020, JACK.

My builds are tested with jack2 as it is, because jack2 is what I run on all 
of my machines.

I have also tested, extensively, these applications with jack2 (by running 
them on either my computer or computers I maintain for band mates and 
collaborators):

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] jack-audio-connection-kit vs. jack2, redux

2020-01-14 Thread Christoph Willing
On 15/1/20 8:16 am, B Watson wrote:
> 
> Here's a list of all the builds that currently depend on
> jack-audio-connection-kit (REQUIRES or mentioned in the README), broken
> out by maintainer. If your name is on this list, please let me know you
> got this message...
> 
> Christoph Willing 
> graphics/Blender
> graphics/vsxu
> multimedia/obs-studio
> multimedia/openshot
> multimedia/vlc
> 

OK, I'll check these in the next few days.

chris
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