Re: [SLUG] Help !!!!!
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Garry wrote: Hi Guys, I am trying to install redhat linux 6.1 on a p200mmx machine with 64 Mb edo RAM, 4.3 gig HDD (C) 2.1gig HDD (D) in dos parlance, trident 9750 4Mb video card. I am installing it to the 2.1 gig HDD and trying to install lilo to the MBR on C. The installation goes great until it gets to the end of the process when linux says "performing post install configuration" and the system just hangs there and does nothing. Leaving aside the distribution, which is largely irrelevant (I'm using SuSE 6.3), I'm assuming you want to dual-boot the machine, with Windows on /dev/hda (drive "C") and Linux on /dev/hdb (drive "D"), yes ? I believe you'll have to have the second drive as the slave on the primary IDE controller, not the master on the secondeary channel - I tried this with RedHat and never could get it to work. What I did (although I was using Windows NT) was install Linux on the second drive and, when the configuration program asks you where you want it installed, tell it the boot sector of the SECOND hard drive... You can then dual-boot in a number of ways; 1. Use something like Partition Magic / Boot magic / System Commander under Windows 2. If using Windows NT, use the boot.ini file and install the appropriate entries to boot Linix (involves the use of the Linux "dd" command to create the "boot file". 3. Boot from a floppy, configured to boot and mount /dev/hdb as the root file system. From my (aging) memory, when I first started investigating Linux (Redhat 5.1 days), the boot.ini option was pretty easy to set up, but the floppy was the coward's way out !!! Apart from running Linux on a P200 as a fileserver, and on a P75 as a gateway / proxy server, I have a P233MMX with a removable drive bay (they cost $25 at North Rocks Markets), as I use Linux on it, but the Mrs uses Windows NT for editing photos and doing web-page stuff (see www/jon.fl.net.au/katelyn). The removable system works best, removing the need to dual-boot - when you need to change O/S, just plug in the other drive and re-boot. This is by far the best method if you are learning the OS, as some of the Linux tools make it VERY easy to overwrite your Windows partition . drive (speaking from bitter experience here !!) Come to think of it, I paid $25 for the drive kit (the frame and a removable tray) and about $15 each for the additional trays. If enough SLUG members are interested, we should be able to get a bulk price on them from somewhere. Hope this is of some help to you Garry - contact me off-list if you want any more details on the drive units. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NFS
Jon Biddell wrote: How do I mount a remote filesystem to appear as part of my current one ? i.e. I need to mount slave:/home/jon to appear under xena:/home/jon/slave. mount -t nfs slave:/home/jon /home/jon/slave (Notes: - Run as root, obviously. (Non-root approaches exist, but are somewhat more complex. Also, how often do you wish to do this?) - Requires xena:/home/jon/slave.to exist already, and presumably be accessible to jon. - You almost certainly require that the user called jon has the same UID (number) on both machines.) - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NFS
just wack the following line in your fstab slave:/home/jon /home/jon/slave nfs rsize=8096,wsize=8096,hard,intr 0 0 then "mount /home/jon/slave" youll wana tweak the options, i use those values on my desktop which is kernel 2.2.17pre16 (+usb +v3 +v3tv) using a realtek 8029as my server is a freebsd 3.5'd pentium 120 with a dlink 10/100 as you decrease the *size's you affect the packet size, so with 8096 it sends about once a second when i listen to mp3's with 1k its constantly sending as the howto suggest's tweak till you find a good medium, 4k is recommended i think the howto mentions problems with big packets on some *really* old isa nics portmap will have to be running (i think) and i think rpciod, these should be activitated by your init scripts on boot youll also need nfs in your kernel Dean Jon Biddell wrote: How do I mount a remote filesystem to appear as part of my current one ? i.e. I need to mount slave:/home/jon to appear under xena:/home/jon/slave. Regards, Jon -- "It is irresponsible to connect a Windows machine to the Internet" ... John Wiltshire (SLUG) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NFS
Jon, Read the NFS HOWTO (easiest way) and man 5 exports... Steve "First, it's done on UNIX, then done on Windows. It's always the way..." On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Jon Biddell wrote: How do I mount a remote filesystem to appear as part of my current one ? i.e. I need to mount slave:/home/jon to appear under xena:/home/jon/slave. Regards, Jon -- "It is irresponsible to connect a Windows machine to the Internet" ... John Wiltshire (SLUG) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux powered PABX
Hi all, I would like to install a PABX at home, We have three lines and it is a hassle to find the phone that is ringing etc.. PABX systems are *SO* proprietary and closed, does a PABX system exist that is powered by Linux? I have heard of one using NT. Does anyone have any usefull links that I could find out more? tia Ian. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problem finding in Ghostscript
Erich Schulz wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, you wrote:
Try setting the resolution on the command line eg -r120x120. If the postscript
is a bit mapped graphics, it might be the cause
Nope, not it. Tried it blank (no setting) and -r600x600. It is just
cropping the top left hand quarter of page out of the picture.
testing
Bingo - you are actually onto something. I think ghostscript is broke
though. Spec -r150 or -r300 and there is no stretching, only shifted
it in the vertical dimension. I'll think I'll work on the fact that it
is broke an re-install.
Thanks all.
What is really annoying was I had all this somewhere and I think I've
accidentally deleted it as the folder for the sender is gone.
..bummer...
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Re: [SLUG] NFS
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Steve Kowalik wrote: Jon, Read the NFS HOWTO (easiest way) and man 5 exports... Already printed out and reading over dinner...:-) Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux powered PABX
At 07:09 PM 13/08/2000 +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Ian Ward wrote: Hi all, I would like to install a PABX at home, We have three lines and it is a hassle to find the phone that is ringing etc.. PABX systems are *SO* proprietary and closed, does a PABX system exist that is powered by Linux? I have heard of one using NT. I know of one using NT too - and no-one can find the ringing phone !!! OS/2 is a good choice for PABX systems, as it already has a strong integration of voice into it. our NT one keeps dying ;) Regards, Patrick Kelso aragorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://psyberiamatrix.com -- Powered by Apache, coded in vi PGP Public Key http://psyberiamatrix.com/aragorn.asc -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT/CC D++ S+: A--- C ub+ ul+ us+ P+ L++ E--- W++ N++ o-- K- w O-- M V-- PS+++ PE-- Y PGP++ t+ 5+++ X++ R !tv b DI+ D+++ G+ e h r y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Help !!!!!
Do you have a network card? On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Garry wrote: Hi Guys, I am trying to install redhat linux 6.1 on a p200mmx machine with 64 Mb edo RAM, 4.3 gig HDD (C) 2.1gig HDD (D) in dos parlance, trident 9750 4Mb video card. I am installing it to the 2.1 gig HDD and trying to install lilo to the MBR on C. The installation goes great until it gets to the end of the process when linux says "performing post install configuration" and the system just hangs there and does nothing. I have tried to reinstall the OS a number of times but always it gets as far as the above process and hangs on me... Grrr. I really want this OS bad and I want to learn it REAL BAD. Can you offer me any help as to how I can get it to install correctly. I cant go to red hat for help because I am installing it from an APC mag pocketbook and they have said in their documentation that I can't get any help from Red hat or from APC so you guys are my last resort. The funny thing is that I had this OS successfully installed a few months ago but had to reformat because I sold one of my HDD's and had to wait until I could get a new one. I have checked the HDD using a prog called spinrite and it reports all is well with the HDD and I am running win98 quite happily (yuk). If you need any more info please email me and I will provide all I can. Regards Garry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problem finding in Ghostscript
I just remembered: I bought a Brother HL1240, which is supposed to be 600x600, but the GS HPCL driver does not set the resolution correctly, for some reason the printer only prints in 300x300. If I tell GS to print in 600x600, I only get 1/4 of the page. So I have to live with 300x300 printouts under linux. Hope that helps Cheers Erich -- Erich Schulz Instrumental Technologies PO Box 6028, Lake Munmorah, NSW 2259 Ph: (+61)0500 551 228 , Fax: (+612) 43583113 Mob: 0408 201 228 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
Just a couple of questions: Firstly does anyone know of any good resources for info on Win2k/linux multibooting. I have a few but most aren't that great. Just wondering if there were some that I missed. Second is related to this I'm still tossing up between Mandrake and Debian.. I've used RH/Mandrake pretty much since I've started using Linux (Although my first experience was actually with Slackware) but after seeing alot of the comments both here and elsewhere I'm pretty much convinced to give Debian a go. Two questions mainly . Just quickly are there any main/radical difference that one should be aware of, traps for the unwary coming from the other distros etc.. And the second is about 2.1/2.2 what's the general consensus on which to use at present. My intial impression was 2.2 but I imagine some of the Debian gurus out there might be able to shed a little more light. Finally. I've been given the exultant task of designing and implementing the ritual scarring for the peguinillas at the Installfest. As I'm totally without artistic talent any submissions will be gladly excepted (and I promise to be extra gentle with your scarring if you submit) also volunteers to help hold down the victim^H^H^H^H^H^H followers will be gladly accepted. I'm a deft hand with a soldering iron and machete so the act of scarring is all covered :-) Thanks, Dan. Chief Priest of Church of Penguinilla -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] oracle download
Has anyone been able to get the oracle download from aarnet and install it successfully? I have d/l it twice and get crc errors the file is oracle8161_tar.gz Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 08:02:20PM +1000, Dan Treacy wrote: Just a couple of questions: Firstly does anyone know of any good resources for info on Win2k/linux multibooting. I have a few but most aren't that great. Just wondering if there were some that I missed. There's a WinNT/Linux mini-HOWTO which covers this for NT and it works fine in Win2000 cos I've done it :). Basically it's a matter of using dd to create a boot sector thingy, then copy it over to your win2k partition, edit boot.ini and away you go. Second is related to this I'm still tossing up between Mandrake and Debian.. I've used RH/Mandrake pretty much since I've started using Linux (Although my first experience was actually with Slackware) but after seeing alot of the comments both here and elsewhere I'm pretty much convinced to give Debian a go. Two questions mainly . Just quickly are there any main/radical difference that one should be aware of, traps for the unwary coming from the other distros etc.. And the second is about 2.1/2.2 what's the general consensus on which to use at present. My intial impression was 2.2 but I imagine some of the Debian gurus out there might be able to shed a little more light. Well I've just been that way too. Started on Slackware way back in kerne; 0.99 and moved onto RedHat after coming back to Linux after a few years. I thought I'd give Debian a shot and I'm pretty darn impressed. I might even be considered a convert :). Probably the only thing to watch out for is package management. It's pretty radically different as far as things like apt-get goes anyway. Also the RH equivalent of sysconfig and network scripts is wirth watching out for but Debian handles this better. I'm going to try getting Win4Lin going next. I reckon I've got the kernel OK and I used Alien to convert the RPM so fingers crossed. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] oracle download
I havnt yet tried to install it, but it unzipped ok... Daron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] oracle download Has anyone been able to get the oracle download from aarnet and install it successfully? I have d/l it twice and get crc errors the file is oracle8161_tar.gz Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problem finding in Ghostscript
I just remembered: I bought a Brother HL1240, which is supposed to be 600x600, but the GS HPCL driver does not set the resolution correctly, for some reason the printer only prints in 300x300. If I tell GS to print in 600x600, I only get 1/4 of the page. So I have to live with 300x300 printouts under linux. It sounds like the problem is your printer doesn't have enough memory to render the raster image of a full page at 600x600. About 4 MB of memory is needed. If you use the built-in fonts, it's rendered piecemeal so you don't need the full amount of memory. -- This mail sent via NLC WebMail: http://www.nlc.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
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Why does woody make for a better desktop? You can install Helix GNOME!
The Helix people are committed to have Gnome working with potato, that is,
if it doesn't work for you, file a bug report via their (not Debian's) BTS.
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Re: [SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
Herbert Xu wrote: The Helix people are committed to have Gnome working with potato, that is, if it doesn't work for you, file a bug report via their (not Debian's) BTS. True, true... They're providing all of the necessary packages (above and beyond potato, as well as their GNOME distro) in their deb archive, right? For interest's sake, just add the follwoing line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main I'm pretty sure you *don't* use frozen/potato instead of unstable in this case... Herbert will correct me if I'm wrong. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.org.au/installfest/ http://linux.conf.au/ I am Jack's implicit trust of ActiveX VBScript. http://slug.org.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux will disappear (a good thing)
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Re: [SLUG] Linux powered PABX
Ian Ward wrote: ... PABX systems are *SO* proprietary and closed, does a PABX system exist that is powered by Linux? http://www.asteriskpbx.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] mainboard hassles
Hi I hope someone out there can help. I loaned my nephew my box while I was away last week (I know I was stuped but I did it) at least I use cadies for my hard drives, anyway, he managed to fry the mainboard, modem LAN adapter (I sore the reminance) so he had a new board installed for me. Well the problem is that the new one is an 'all-in-one' board with only 1 ISA, 1 PCI slots 1 serial port, also since the LAN, Sound, display modem are onboard (they can be disabled) I had to reload my linux system from scratch and guess whatthe onboard sound (card)? a C-media 8738 is only sort of working, the LAN a DAVICOM 9102 is cralling at 20Kps and best of all the modem will only open the phone line then refuse to do anything else including disconect the line. so I've used my (extrem)Emergency hard drive (WinDoz sleepy8) to search the web (it handles the new board with only miner hic-ups) for a sulution. the only site with any help at all (http://calo.oceano.furg.br/~roberto/m585lmr.shtml) can't help very mutch as the owner never got his modem to work. I tryed all the drivers at the links he gave on the page with no sukcess. Please someone help! the board is an PC100-M585LMR and my linux version is RH 6.2 yours in nead : ( Robert -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] NTP Configuration File Required
I have just loaded the RPM for ntp (time protocol) and I am wondering if any fellow slug members has a working sample configuration file that can be used as a reference. The RPM was based on version 4.0.93a instead of the current release of 4.0.99k The configuration file I am looking for would be to allow connection of a Linux (RH6.1) to an external stratum 0 or stratum 1 time server such as 'time.nist.gov', This would then allow clients, down stream *nix and Window system to be synchronised accordingly Any help, guidance would be greatly appreciated. Peter Worboys -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
From: Dan Treacy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Firstly does anyone know of any good resources for info on Win2k/linux multibooting. I have a few but most aren't that great. Just wondering if there were some that I missed. Check out http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm. The HOWTO is kinda nice, but nowhere near as nice as using bootpart to set up the multiboot. Note that bootpart doesn't require you to recopy your boot sector every time you rebuild your kernel (which helps a lot). John Wiltshire -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian .h files / Kernel building
I'm trying to work out what Debian package I need to install to supply me with files such as sys/types.h, fcntl.h etc, related to making a kernel. These files usually live in /usr/include. I've got them on one Debian system but not another. One was a clean Potato install, the other an upgrade from Slink to Potato. I've not been able to figure out which package supplies me with those files. If anyone can shed some light on that for me, or even better let me know how I can use dpkg tools to find out which package provided a particular file, that'd be great. Cheers, Craige. (Recent Debian convert) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Virtual desktops in GNOME
I am pretty new to GNOME. My .xinitrc has gnome-session at the end. What I am looking for is virtual desktops (like I had in FVWM2). I would like that available on the desktop or in the panel(if that's what it is called) on the bottom. Where can I find some sample configurations on how to setup virtual destops in GNOME? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ = Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. = http://www.smcinnovations.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian .h files / Kernel building
I think I'll try your idea because the problem doesn't make sense to me either. It's been a few years since I've compiled a kernel but I don't recall having silly problems like this. I'd provide the complete error but it's on a none networked machine. Firstly it complains there is no /usr/local/lib then dialog.h says it can't find sys/types/h and half a dozen others. Why would a kernel compile look anywhere else but it's own source tree? I'm no developer so I if someone knows why that would be.. Cheers, Craige Graeme Merrall wrote: On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:01:07AM +0200, Craige McWhirter wrote: I'm trying to work out what Debian package I need to install to supply me with files such as sys/types.h, fcntl.h etc, related to making a kernel. These files usually live in /usr/include. I've got them on one Debian system but not another. One was a clean Potato install, the other an upgrade from Slink to Potato. I've not been able to figure out which package supplies me with those files. If anyone can shed some light on that for me, or even better let me know how I can use dpkg tools to find out which package provided a particular file, that'd be great. other Debian-ites may be able to help with this but I found this setup quite confusing. There's /usr/include/linux, kernel-headers and include/linux in the linux kernel source. I had a read about kernel-headers in the docs that came with it but it didn't make much sense. I had a problem compiling the NVidia kernel module and the solution I found was to backup /usr/inlude/linux and link it to /usr/src/linux/include/linux so it would compile. I've never encountered something like that previous to Debian. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Journaling File Systems
Reiserfs: Indeed, reboots are quick and clean. So quick that if I really want to look at the BIOS setups I have to be real quick with the keyboard! XFS on SGI (IRIX) equipment: I never have to worry about fsck time. Again, reboots are quick and clean. Highly recommended. I would say especially recommended for things like laptops that have to be shut down often. We saw a prototype XFS on Linux at the PC show; the demo involved deliberately corrupting a file (by turning the power off) and seeing how long it took the laptop to reboot. Given the same size disk partitions, ext2 was still thinking about fsck whereas the XFS partition came up in about half a second. That was with SGI's prototype XFS for Linux. Regards, Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jason Rennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 August 2000 19:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Journaling File Systems Hi all, What are ppl's experience with the plethora of jfs's for linux that are floating about currently. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Journaling File Systems
Quoting Jill Rowling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Reiserfs: Indeed, reboots are quick and clean. So quick that if I really want to look at the BIOS setups I have to be real quick with the keyboard! Is it possible to convert an existing ext2 fs server to Reiser without loosing data, or is it better to backup and restore ? Jon P.S. I'm running SuSE 6.3 (soon to nbe 7.0 Professional) if that makes any difference. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Security of auto updates; was Debian/Mandrake
Roland Turner wrote: Second is related to this I'm still tossing up between Mandrake and Debian.. wrong so rarely as to not matter. The only obvious trap is that if you wish to install a package, you don't download it yourself. Instead just type 'apt-get install packagename' and let Debian the rest. If you do go ahead and download the .deb archive, you'll find yourself needing to get more intimate with the package management system than you might wish. Have been following this as I intend to swap to Debian from RedHat on my Alpha. One thing that the above raises is security during an internet install. I have used rpm update but only to download rpms as a normal user and after disconnecting logon as root and do the install/update. I have grave doubts about having an app running as root or suid root while downloading stuff and installing from the net. What are the security implications, is rpm update or apt get-install written in such a way to not pose a problem, am I being too paranoid? Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 URL: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~michael-lake/ Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Journaling File Systems
I'd strongly suggest to backup everything before modifying any fs (jfs or otherwise). In this case, going from ext2 to another fs is similar to windows formatting, so, yes, you need to copy everything off that partition and put it all back on after the new fs is prepared. - Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is it possible to convert an existing ext2 fs server to Reiser without loosing data, or is it better to backup and restore ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Virtual desktops in GNOME
Subba Rao wrote: Where can I find some sample configurations on how to setup virtual destops in GNOME? Hmm. Not sure about sample configs, but... This is really a matter for your window manager, not GNOME itself. Are you using Helix GNOME and Sawfish? Then you can go into the Control Centre and change your viewports settings in the Sawfish Workspaces section. I'm sure others will be able to help you with other window manager setups. You'll need to let us know. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to have the passion to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Probems installing IMAP RPM.
Hi all, I ftp'ed this file to a remote RedHat 6.2 "Bleeding Edge" server and tried to RPM install the file and got this message. The file transfered OK as it was in binary mode and file size is correct... but what the hell does it mean??? corrupted? [root@penguin gvieira]# rpm -i imap-4.7-5.i386.rpm warning: /etc/pam.d/imap saved as /etc/pam.d/imap.rpmorig warning: /etc/pam.d/pop saved as /etc/pam.d/pop.rpmorig unpacking of archive failed: cpio: Bad magic thanks, George Vieira Network Administrator Citadel Computer Systems P/L http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian .h files / Kernel building
Michael Lake wrote: Craige McWhirter wrote: I've got them on one Debian system but not another. One was a clean Potato install, the other an upgrade from Slink to Potato. Ah the replies to this will provide some info between how Debian and RH packages can answer this question. lazarus: ~ $ dpkg -S /usr/include/fcntl.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/fcntl.h lazarus: ~ $ dpkg -S /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h lazarus: ~ $ dpkg -S /usr/include/bits/fcntl.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/bits/fcntl.h lazarus: ~ $ dpkg -S /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/asm-i386/fcntl.h dpkg: /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/asm-i386/fcntl.h not found. which really means, "2.2.14 kernel? You're kidding, right?" :D I'm a compulsive kernel tester, so I don't use kernel packages. Check my X-Operating-System header. :) Actually, what it really means is that Debian doesn't package kernels and kernel sources quite like RedHat. There's a whole other system that I haven't aquainted myself with... I always use the tar.bz2's anyway. Herbert, Anand or Gus will be able to fill you in on Debian's ruthless kernel package policies, and the utilities that go with them. Craige again: I've not been able to figure out which package supplies me with those files. If anyone can shed some light on that for me, or even better let me know how I can use dpkg tools to find out which package provided a particular file, that'd be great. As you saw above, dpkg -S. The output of dpkg --help is pretty good. Long, but good. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to have the passion to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Upgrading Alpha from RedHat - Debian :-)
Hi All, Q for the Alpha folks. During a long Olympic break coming up I will be upgrading my Alpha from 6.0 RH to Debian. Appears that 2.2 is not available for Alpha platform so will be buying a 2.1, installing this from scratch/RH and then using this aptget thingy to upgrade vi a telephone dialup (33.6k). Q1. How big approx would all the updates be from 2.1 - 2.2? Multiple choice answer: 10M __ 100M __ 100M++__ Q2. rpms have the architecture as part of the package name. Looking at the deb sites on aarnet it seems that debian place each architecture in a separate directory but otherwise the files have the same name. How do you tell when you go to a site like Helixcode that they are suitable for an Alpha? I notice that in the source directory (rather than the binary dir) they have however src files with a i386 in the name. How do you tell this aptget thing to get the right package? Mike Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 URL: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~michael-lake/ Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] interesting scsi question
guys I'm having a bit of trouble with a scsi CD writer. When I try mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdr I get a "not a block device" error. I have also tried MAKEDEV sg to make generic nodes but these dont work either. rob the details modprobe atp870u aec671x_detect: ACARD AEC-671X PCI Ultra/W SCSI-3 Host Adapter: 0IO:ec00, IRQ:5. ID: 6 MATSHITACD-R CW-7503 1.08 ID: 7 Host Adapter scsi0 : ACARD AEC-6710/6712 PCI Ultra/W SCSI-3 Adapter Driver V1.0 scsi : 1 host. scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries. SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. ACARD AEC-671X Driver Version: 1.0 cat /proc/scsi/atp870u/0 Adapter Configuration: Base IO: 0xec00 IRQ: 5 cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: snip SCSI storage controller: Artop Electronics Unknown device (rev 8). Vendor id=1191. Device id=8030. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xec00 [0xec01]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd9001000 [0xd9001000]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: NVidia Unknown device (rev 21). Vendor id=10de. Device id=2d. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd400 [0xd400]. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd600 [0xd608]. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Alpha from RedHat - Debian :-)
While being far from knowledgeable on Debian (a user of a whole two weeks) my experience on PPC/Intel/Sparc has been that the one command: apt-get install mozilla for example, run on each machine, will download, install and configure (interactively) whatever software you ask for. How it does this is pure speculation on my part and I don't really care. Works nicely, enough said :) Cheers, Craige. Michael Lake wrote: Hi All, Q for the Alpha folks. During a long Olympic break coming up I will be upgrading my Alpha from 6.0 RH to Debian. Appears that 2.2 is not available for Alpha platform so will be buying a 2.1, installing this from scratch/RH and then using this aptget thingy to upgrade vi a telephone dialup (33.6k). Q1. How big approx would all the updates be from 2.1 - 2.2? Multiple choice answer: 10M __ 100M __ 100M++__ Q2. rpms have the architecture as part of the package name. Looking at the deb sites on aarnet it seems that debian place each architecture in a separate directory but otherwise the files have the same name. How do you tell when you go to a site like Helixcode that they are suitable for an Alpha? I notice that in the source directory (rather than the binary dir) they have however src files with a i386 in the name. How do you tell this aptget thing to get the right package? Mike Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 URL: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~michael-lake/ Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Security of auto updates; was Debian/Mandrake
Michael Lake wrote: What are the security implications, is rpm update or apt get-install written in such a way to not pose a problem, am I being too paranoid? The honest answer is "I don't know". I do know that Debian packages are signed, so it is possible to confirm that the packages that are being downloaded are signed by trusted developers (or at least, that the intruder who signed them also managed to get him/herself onto the debian keyring, either for real, or on the substitute one that you were tricked into installing). I don't know whether this is actually being checked. In any event, it would probably easier for an intruder to insert bad code into a program that runs as root and have it included into Debian, than to spoof your download. I suspect that this is part of a broad trust issue that depends upon reputation (thus Debian's strong requriements on identifying developers). When (if) the first exploit of this type is reported, the mechanisms will be strengthened to meet the threat, as is typical. - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Printing HTML
Interesting problem. I have a whole heap of HTML pages. They are from a Uni subject so each page looks like a slide. Now I want to convert these into postscript so I can automate the printing and also print them 4 to a page. So is there anything out there that will parse html and print it decently. The only thing I can think of right now is converting them all to .ps manually with netscape but that's not very automated :) -- John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] interesting scsi question
I'm having a bit of trouble with a scsi CD writer. When I try mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdr I get a "not a block device" error. I have also tried MAKEDEV sg to make generic nodes but these dont work either. rob snip what does your scd0 device look like ? mine looks like : [smills@proxy /dev]$ ls scd0 -al brw---1 root disk 11, 0 May 6 1998 scd0 you might want to have a fiddle with mknod it seems your scsi support is there, but you might want to make sure you have SCSI CDROM support - Redhat by default compiles it into the kernel --Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Printing HTML
Hi John! html2ps seems to work well. benno@lister:~$ wget http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cs3121/lectures/core01/overview.html ; html2ps overview.html overview.ps; gv overview.ps seems to work on my box. Of course you can prolly use wget -r to hack together something and pipe it to mpage, lpr to do waht you want, but I am sure you have a better chance of doing that than me ;) Cheers, Benno On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, John Ferlito wrote: Interesting problem. I have a whole heap of HTML pages. They are from a Uni subject so each page looks like a slide. Now I want to convert these into postscript so I can automate the printing and also print them 4 to a page. So is there anything out there that will parse html and print it decently. The only thing I can think of right now is converting them all to .ps manually with netscape but that's not very automated :) -- John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Printing HTML
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 03:22:13PM +1000, Ben Leslie wrote: Hi John! html2ps seems to work well. benno@lister:~$ wget http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cs3121/lectures/core01/overview.html ; html2ps overview.html overview.ps; gv overview.ps Thanks. he scary thing is that it's the same subject :) seems to work on my box. Of course you can prolly use wget -r to hack together something and pipe it to mpage, lpr to do waht you want, but I am sure you have a better chance of doing that than me ;) Cheers, Benno On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, John Ferlito wrote: Interesting problem. I have a whole heap of HTML pages. They are from a Uni subject so each page looks like a slide. Now I want to convert these into postscript so I can automate the printing and also print them 4 to a page. So is there anything out there that will parse html and print it decently. The only thing I can think of right now is converting them all to .ps manually with netscape but that's not very automated :) -- John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- -- John FerlitoPh: +612 9253 5755 Systems Engineer Fax: +612 9247 5276 Pacific Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd http://www.pacific.net.au Internet Wholesalers to Australian Business NASDAQ: PCNTF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Security of auto updates; was Debian/Mandrake
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 02:31:58PM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: Michael Lake wrote: What are the security implications, is rpm update or apt get-install written in such a way to not pose a problem, am I being too paranoid? The honest answer is "I don't know". I do know that Debian packages are signed, so it is possible to confirm that the packages that are being downloaded are signed by trusted developers (or at least, that the No, that's a myth. A good comparision is at URL: http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/. In Debian the .changes and the .dsc file are signed by the developer. Package signing will happen according to URL: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/24/ into installing). I don't know whether this is actually being checked. In any event, it would probably easier for an intruder to insert bad code into a program that runs as root and have it included into Debian, than to spoof your download. I suspect that this is part of a broad trust issue that depends upon reputation (thus Debian's strong requriements on identifying developers). Interesting you should pick up on them. The only "strength" to Debian identification process is that you ought to have your key signed by another developer. That has (recently) been loosened. Examine: URL: http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-step2 there are a number of problems with the guidelines listed there. Cheers, Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 11:59:42AM +, Herbert Xu wrote: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does woody make for a better desktop? You can install Helix GNOME! The Helix people are committed to have Gnome working with potato, that is, if it doesn't work for you, file a bug report via their (not Debian's) BTS. Unlike a lot of things in Debian, the bug system is broken. It should be able to figure out the source of a package and file the bug report at the correct location. Some changes are underway but they won't be enough to handle this situation elegantly. Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian .h files / Kernel building
If you tell LInus this, he will hate you forever. As far as he is concerned *any* distribution which make kernel source available under /usr/src/linux is broken (read the release note for 2.4). I'm not familiar with previous versions of Debian but 2.2 (out in a day or so I hope) puts them in /usr/src/kernel-source-version /usr/include/linux should always be provided by your C Library as changes to structures, or more usually, differences in structures as common. Seperating out the includes for the C library and the kernel source means that each can change without affecting the other. Thus stopping the (I hope) problem that different C libraries break with different kernels. Different C Libraries may still break applications -- but likely that application was doing something bad in the first place. Sounds pretty much like what I read in the readme for kernel-headers. What I failed to pick up was what/when and how you should use them. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
