Re: [SLUG] dhcpd..
hi Do you have a dhcpd.leases file? If not yhen you should touch one no.. just tried it still nothing.. What does your /var/log/messages file tell you? it shows nothing at all well besides the usall and a couple of --MARK-- Have you run tcpdump on eth1 to see what packets are happening? some bootp messages as ppl try to connect like 04:29:29.513642 0.0.0.0.bootpc 255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0x4f4a5a4a secs:3072 [|bootp] thanks. alex _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dhcpd..
Do a ps aux and grep for bootpd - if you have a bootpd service running, then you need to disable the bootp server. The bootp server is usually started in inetd.conf. np no bootp anything alex _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Nvi saved the file img-blah
Reading the headers solved the mystery of the location /var/tmp/vi.recover/ of the saved files and the recovery binaries. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sparc Hardware Update
I have slxt (sparc linux X term) working with some SparcStation SLCs I have at home. If anyone needs help setting this up, get in touch. Download from: http://www2.gol.com/users/gaijin/Linux/ I couldn't get XKernel working, but I don't like Solaris anyway. YMMV. --matt On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Scott Howard wrote: [snip] As for what software to run on them, there's a few options... XKernel is a hacked up SunOS 4.1.x kernel/X server which basically just turns the machine in an X server. It's made to be booted over the network from another machine (historically a Sun, but I'm sure you could talk a Linux box into doing it), and thus needs no local hard disk. It's reasonably fast, but unfortunately is a fairly old version of X. Another option is something I've been setting up of late. It's basically the same thing as XKernel, but based on Linux and X11R6.4. Boots over the network so again needs no local disk, and is little more than an X server. It's still a work in progress, but if anyones interested in playing with it, let me know. It needs a little more memory than XKernel, but it has the advantage of using a later version of X. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dhcpd..
What does your /var/log/messages file tell you? it shows nothing at all well besides the usall and a couple of --MARK-- Try /var/log/daemon.log that might be more helpful daves -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dhcpd..
ahha socket: Protocol not available - make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in your kernel configuration! now this looks more like it... which options are these.. i am using 2.2.18.. thanks alex On Sunday 04 February 2001 20:42, you wrote: What does your /var/log/messages file tell you? it shows nothing at all well besides the usall and a couple of --MARK-- Try /var/log/daemon.log that might be more helpful daves _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] CUPS Printing Question
Hi all, This is probably a fairly simple question, but i cant figure it out from the cups manual. I have an epson stylus colour 800 inkjet printer. It wors fine with linux, except i have a small problem with the paralell port on my computer. It doesn;t seem to work at all. Neither under linux or windows. Which dashed my first plans to hook my printer back up to my computer. Then I dug out an old intel netexpress printserver in a box i had lying around and set it up with lpd and samba facilites on it. Now I set cups up to point to this lpd printer, and plain text prints absolutely swimmingly. However when I try to print postscript to the printer, it prints post script all right, four pages of text post script commands, rather than a nice rendered image. Now what I want to know, is there any way to rasterise this image before i send it over the netowrk to the printer ? Or convert it into something useful for the printer, without having a whole second computer, seeing as this printserver is only being used becasue of an apparently faulty parralell port ? Any ideas ?? Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]
Terry Collins wrote: SIGs do not split Slug. They are a method of catering for diverse interests without forcing everything else onto everyone. agreed. snip The best people to help newbies/beginners are other newbies/beginners The "visually impaired" leading the blind Maybe an unfair comment, but as I do not fully understand Linux, I could be considered one of the "severley visually impaired". I wonder just how much help I could get from others in my position who may be struggling with the same concepts. Surely it is wiser in the long run to have newbies set on the best path rather than have bad habits and myths become entrenched. Very few experienced people are good at doing this. Too many things are just second nature and they can get pissed off coming down to newbie speed. This may be the case for some - I hope they are never given an assistant they have to train - but it is just this type of attitude that has convinced me to leave Debian to the hackers. During the many months I was trying to come to terms with Debian, whenever I had a problem I was told to RTFM (even though I usually had and did not find the solutions there). Thank heavens SuSE users are not so elitest. SIGs are a useful and fertile development within any club, just lets not let them become too exclusive. Sorry about the rant, Terry, but I have seen clubs lose members by refusing to assist newbies and developing the attitude of: "Let the newbies help themselves and each other and not bother us gods/gurus/experts as we are too far above them to bother with their petty hassles." Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Redhat 7.0 on PC164UX
Hi all, I was wondering if anybody has much experience in installing readhat 7.0 or 6.0 onto alphas, specifically on a PC164UX. I have milo seemingly working fine, and it gets to the point I can pick the bootimage to load. I give it the image and it reads through it and then responds with a bad magic number. I was wondering if anybody could help me out on this one? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] CUPS Printing Question
Hi all, This is probably a fairly simple question, but i cant figure it out from the cups manual. I have an epson stylus colour 800 inkjet printer. It wors fine with linux, except i have a small problem with the paralell port on my computer. It doesn;t seem to work at all. Neither under linux or windows. Which dashed my first plans to hook my printer back up to my computer. I have one of the epson color 12?? printers and it works very well with cups and the standard suse lpr script all right, four pages of text post script commands, rather than a nice rendered image. That obviously wont work as it is not a postscript printer. Have you used the correct driver with CUPS the epson printers are supported, although I dont know about the 800 Now what I want to know, is there any way to rasterise this image before i send it over the netowrk to the printer ? Or convert it into something useful for the printer, without having a whole second computer, seeing as this printserver is only being used becasue of an apparently faulty parralell port ? Cups has a modified version of ghostscript to do this I think. Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Sparc boot floppy label
\begin{Terry Collins}
Does anyone know what the error that sort of read
error not sun disk label" means.
We have the debian 2.2.2 rescue bin on a floppy using
dd if=rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync; sync
and are getting an error message about the floppy not having a sun disk
label.
There is nothing in the installation notes other than the dd command.
sounds like its trying to boot the floppy as a hard drive..
how did you tell it to boot from the floppy?
(i just had to do: "boot floppy" - it was really tricky)
I'd also appreciate it if someone can tell me how I can get dd to stop
the speaker squarking - the first dd switch the speaker on. It is also
flashing lights on the front panel, but I can ignore those.
that sounds .. healthy.
this is a dd process on your i386 or from another sparc?
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[SLUG] Re: Sparc Hardware Update
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Classics, LX and IPX are all similar spec and make slow, but OK machines
for playing with.
hey! my workstation at work is a sparc classic.
the speed is fine (most of our heavy work is done remotely on another
machine). the worst bit is the 8-bit display, but thats no reason to
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Sparc boot floppy label
With sparc problems its seriously worth looking through the linux-sparc
mail archives and even mail archives of openbsd and netbsd.
i believe sparc linux is at www.ultralinux.com (or org or something)
Dean
Angus Lees wrote:
\begin{Terry Collins}
Does anyone know what the error that sort of read
error not sun disk label" means.
We have the debian 2.2.2 rescue bin on a floppy using
dd if=rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync; sync
and are getting an error message about the floppy not having a sun disk
label.
There is nothing in the installation notes other than the dd command.
sounds like its trying to boot the floppy as a hard drive..
how did you tell it to boot from the floppy?
(i just had to do: "boot floppy" - it was really tricky)
I'd also appreciate it if someone can tell me how I can get dd to stop
the speaker squarking - the first dd switch the speaker on. It is also
flashing lights on the front panel, but I can ignore those.
that sounds .. healthy.
this is a dd process on your i386 or from another sparc?
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Re: [SLUG] dhcpd..
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 05:52:50AM +1100, Alex Salmon uttered: ahha socket: Protocol not available - make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in your kernel configuration! Simple error. It's hit me a few times, and I'm sure it's done it again, because 2.4.1 doesn't work on my network :-) now this looks more like it... Yep, very helpful error. which options are these.. i am using 2.2.18.. If you use either 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig' (*NOT* make config :-), if you select the help option for the different kernel options. It's standard across the config's, which is why they are in the error message. Now, because there has been a bunch of crap on the list about how Debian users are elistist, and just say "RTFM", i've told you _how_ to do it, but i'll also tell you what you need to do: Run 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig', whichever floats your boat. Enter the 'Networking options' (menuconfig) or '' (xconfig) You need both 'Packet socket' (CONFIG_PACKET) and 'Socket Filtering' (CONFIG_FILTER) selected. Recompile your kernel, run lilo, etc, etc... _And_, I just fixed my 2.4.1 problem (forgot CONFIG_FILTER) :-) thanks alex On Sunday 04 February 2001 20:42, you wrote: What does your /var/log/messages file tell you? it shows nothing at all well besides the usall and a couple of --MARK-- If you find the "--MARK--" annoying like I do, put: SYSLOGD="-m 0" (which means set mark interval to zero) in your /etc/init.d/sysklogd Try /var/log/daemon.log that might be more helpful daves Terry, etc... Debian users elitist!! What a total bunch of crap. Now, i could go on a total #linux thread here, and say 'knowledge gained by yourself is much better than the answer,' but i'll refrain, and just say that Debian users __aren't__ elistist, we will help, if asked nicely, and the person is willing to RTFM, or be pointed at the relevant part of TFM... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Steve "I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest." --Me -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] pppd problems with mgetty
Hi All, I'm having problems with getting mgetty1.1.20 to connect a ppp connection. I've done the following i) Compiled with the line CFLAGS=-02 -Wall -pipe -DAUTO_PPP" in the Makefile to enable PPP. ii) Included the line "/AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth login +pap -chap /dev/ttyS1 crtscts proxyarp lock" in the login.config file iii) Run the command "mgetty -D -a /dev/ttyS1" In the log file I get the error "yS1 can't get group 'modem': No such file or directory" and mgetty sends the modem to /bin/login rather than pppd. Any ideas? cheers, Richard Pang -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
Hi, I saw ur message, at the message board while searching for the Skywell MagicTV card Latest Drivers, I've got this card for long, and was functioning perfectly, (all Image and vidoe captures) when I was using Intel 740 AGP card, but when I cahnged my card to TNT2 M64, its not working well, so I wanted the latest drivers, I would be very thankful if u could help me know where I would find the latest drivers for this card, and just incase if u went thru the same prob, how to sort it out, I'ld really appriciate ur help. thanks vj _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]
This one time, at band camp, Heracles said: Terry Collins wrote: The best people to help newbies/beginners are other newbies/beginners The "visually impaired" leading the blind Maybe an unfair comment, but as I do not fully understand Linux, I could be considered one of the "severley visually impaired". I wonder just how much help I could get from others in my position who may be struggling with the same concepts. Surely it is wiser in the long run to have newbies set on the best path rather than have bad habits and myths become entrenched. I find I teach a subject best if I've just mastered it. I think what Terry means is the best person to learn from is someone who's just a few steps ahead of you. SIGs are a useful and fertile development within any club, just lets not let them become too exclusive. If you make a SIG inexclusive, it's just a mini-UG. That's when you split the main UG. Granted you need to remember to keep a perspective, and make sure all members of the SIG are still part of the UG. I've been here for a while now, and what I really appreciate from this list is the openness, and the ability to tolerate a lot. There's a nice laid-back atmosphere here. I doubt forming SIGs will have a significant effect on the stability of SLUG as a whole. -- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using (o_ ' Windows NT for mission-critical applications." //\ -- What Yoda *meant* to say, Devin L. Ganger, scary.devil.monastery v_/_ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] I vote one for a newbies list
This one time, at band camp, Ken Foskey said: My hat goes in with Terry. I think that there is great scope for a newbies list. This list should have predefined answers to 'which is the best distro' with input from each camp. We KNOW that archives will not really work with newbies. Hrm, I think the main SLUG list is good for newbies, what is being suggested is SIGs for advanced users. What you're really suggesting is a FAQ, and I'll wager that SLUG maintaining a FAQ will be just replicating answers from official FAQs. -- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using (o_ ' Windows NT for mission-critical applications." //\ -- What Yoda *meant* to say, Devin L. Ganger, scary.devil.monastery v_/_ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
Just to throw another controversial topic onto the new mailing list debate. Could we get a slug-chat or slug-social list if we do end up creating another one? We can move some of the banter off slug and onto slug-chat. I would love to have a list were I could post general computer or chat type stuff. Yes there are news groups and other mailing lists, but to me SLUG is a community and I want to sit in the local coffee shop to chat, not have to go into the city where I don't know anyone and they don't necessarily have the same frame of reference that I do. Just a thought. Rodos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Sparc boot floppy label
Angus Lees wrote:
..snip...
sounds like its trying to boot the floppy as a hard drive..
how did you tell it to boot from the floppy?
(i just had to do: "boot floppy" - it was really tricky)
Which is exactly what we tried a number of times with different
floppies. Hmm.
It seems the only way to do floppy boots and just keep downloading and
retrying - multiple times. Notes do say this.
I'd also appreciate it if someone can tell me how I can get dd to stop
the speaker squarking - the first dd switch the speaker on. It is also
flashing lights on the front panel, but I can ignore those.
that sounds .. healthy.
this is a dd process on your i386 or from another sparc?
i386 - as you say, it sounds healthy not.
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Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
VIJAYENDRA HAJARE wrote:
Hi,
I saw ur message, at the message board while searching for the Skywell
MagicTV card Latest Drivers, I've got this card for long, and was
functioning perfectly, (all Image and vidoe captures) when I was using Intel
740 AGP card, but when I cahnged my card to TNT2 M64, its not working well,
so I wanted the latest drivers, I would be very thankful if u could help me
know where I would find the latest drivers for this card, and just incase if
u went thru the same prob, how to sort it out, I'ld really appriciate ur
help.
Umm, I have no idea why changing your video card would affect the
capture card, but obviously something in the TNT2 M64 now interferres
with the capture card.
Is this Linux we are talking about. I only answer Win95 questions for
servere $.
There is no reason to update the drivers unless the newer drivers have
some new feature. What are your startup values for the five drivers and
have you changed anything of them.
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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
quote who="Rodos" Just to throw another controversial topic onto the new mailing list debate. Go on then, complicate the issue! ;) Could we get a slug-chat or slug-social list if we do end up creating another one? This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I certainly agreed with that for a long time, but... ;) I've been chatting to a couple of ILUG people, to find out how they deal with these kinds of things, and they reckon that their social list has made the main Linux discussion list heaps better. I reckon if we created the list, knowing full well that it was going to be a big mess of craziness, and that a reasonable number of people would join anyway, it would work. The only little annoying thing would be when something is posted to the inappropriate list... But we can deal with that. Rodos - I guess it has to keep coming up until we try it, hey? - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- make: *** No rule to make target `whoopee'. Stop. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Sorry ! Re: [SLUG] Pascal, anyone?
transfer Fidonet packets {if you don't know, don't ask - you're probably
too young anyway!} via the internet/IP.
Eeee;... flashback time
Wasn't there a C version of this (written, as I recall, by a Minister
from Manly) ??
Let me see if I can contact him and ask..
Apolgies, couldn't resist:
A programming Minister from Manly,
needed Fidonet packets handily
said he, with devlish glee
I'll translate this Pascal to C
And is now contactable randomly
Jamie
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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I certainly agreed with that for a long time, but... ;) I have always been reserved about splitting the list. With slug-chat I am suggesting a new list, not a split, its for banter and crap. I think it can only enhance the main list, not distract from it. The only thing that moves there is stuff which caused a flame war or beer posts on the old one. Rodos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
I agree with this sentiment, but see this as being the precise reason why SLUG should not be fragmented. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Rodos wrote: ... but to me SLUG is a community and I want to sit in the local coffee shop to chat, not have to go into the city where I don't know anyone and they don't necessarily have the same frame of reference that I do. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] gdm displays
I have read as much as I could on X, gdm, etc. and still cannot figure out how to do it, if it can be done. 1) Update /etc/gdm/gdm.conf: Ensure in [xdmcp] section, Enable=1 2) Restart gdm on host machine 3) Check gdm access From within X, "gdmchooser" 4) On client machine either: a) outside of X : "X -query host" b) within X (requires Xnest ; for debian apt-get install xnest) "Xnest :1 -query" Jeff Ewing -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I certainly agreed with that for a long time, but... ;) I have always been reserved about splitting the list. With slug-chat I am suggesting a new list, not a split, its for banter and crap. I think it can only enhance the main list, not distract from it. The only thing that moves there is stuff which caused a flame war or beer posts on the old one. I'd be a fan for that. I know alot of people on this list share not only linux interests. It would be good. Would probably enhance the meetings if we can get stronger social bonds between the members. Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
How about a SLUG-NEW-LISTS-DEBATE list...so we don't have to watch this thread. alister -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Kempe Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 8:29 AM To: Rodos; Syndey Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists. On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I certainly agreed with that for a long time, but... ;) I have always been reserved about splitting the list. With slug-chat I am suggesting a new list, not a split, its for banter and crap. I think it can only enhance the main list, not distract from it. The only thing that moves there is stuff which caused a flame war or beer posts on the old one. I'd be a fan for that. I know alot of people on this list share not only linux interests. It would be good. Would probably enhance the meetings if we can get stronger social bonds between the members. Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] I vote one for a newbies list
At 15:13 4/02/01 +1100, KenF wrote: My hat goes in with Terry. I think that there is great scope for a newbies list. As a Newbie I worry that this will leave us playing in the shallow end of the pool for ever. It's like learning any foreign language - the more you read the more you absorb (even if you don't understand the questions at first, let alone the answers). Hunting the archives for an answer you often learn other stuff along the way. Let us hang in and read and learn, and forgive us the odd dopey question. The blind never did lead the blind very far. Julian Pringle -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
quote who="Howard Lowndes" I agree with this sentiment, but see this as being the precise reason why SLUG should not be fragmented. Trouble is, we have a pretty heavy list already, and all the time people are getting more and more annoyed with the casual fun stuff (the bits they think are a waste of time, whilst others might enjoy them). How about we put a voting thingy on the website? :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- 100% Pure Slashdot Wisdom: "Source code gives a whole new meaning to free software." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Hi all, What happens when a PC CPU overheats? (it's a Cyrix/IBM P200) I'm talking about what effects do you see on the PC? My main gateway machine refused to boot on Saturday. No video and although the lights came on on the disks etc there was no normal startup noises (eg. that ticking as it checks the memory etc). I wondered if I had overloaded the power supply (as I've recently added another disk, so it's got 3 IDE disks and 1 IDE CDROM) but unplugging things didn't help. I didn't have time for any further mucking around so there it sat until Sun night when I turned it on again. No video, but turning it on/off and the monitor on/off seemed to get it going. It started up, but when it listed all the disks, the last one had junk chars for the name and the size was wrong (4Gb instead of 2.5Gb). The only hint I've got is that when I took the lid off, the CPU fan was hardly spinning at all, and laying the case on it's side stopped the fan altogether. I don't know how long it's been like that. This machine is usually left on all the time. Another possible hint is last week (thurs/fri) it had a kernel panic (null pointer ref and a pile of other stuff that meant nothing to me). It was locked solid and required a stab of the reset button to bring it back. The disks seemed ok after that. So any ideas/suggestions what could be wrong with it will be gratefully received... please Cc any replies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Hi Dave, You really need to keep the fan going on a PC; without it you can cook things. This applies to any PC irrespective of what operating system it's running on. On more modern ones, sometimes the BIOS detects the temperature on the mobo / CPU and will not allow boot it the temperature is over a certain amount (whatever that is, varies from machine to machine). On the older ones, the video often karks it first. It puts out maybe 7W of heat and is not necessarily in the path of the fan. Also at high temperature (say over 35 deg C) the disk media change physical size compared to the head positioning hardware so the tracks ain't where they used to be. So if you write to it, you might not be able to read it again at a lower temperature. Other effects for pentiums might include executing the wrong instructions because the chip internal timing is also temperature dependent. Different parts of the instruction might arrive at the (say) ALU at different times or might be clocked into the wrong internal register because the setup times are violated. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 10:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour Hi all, What happens when a PC CPU overheats? (it's a Cyrix/IBM P200) -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: Hi all, What happens when a PC CPU overheats? (it's a Cyrix/IBM P200) I'm talking about what effects do you see on the PC? snip The only hint I've got is that when I took the lid off, the CPU fan was hardly spinning at all, and laying the case on it's side stopped the fan altogether. I don't know how long it's been like that. This machine is usually left on all the time. The symptoms of overheating vary, usually wierd random crashes errors and lockups. If the fan is not spinning, that would definitely explain the problem. I've had a cpu fan fail and was getting all sorts of wierd symptoms, I don't remember exactly what. However, if the cpu has been overheating for some time, it may be damaged, and it may have written a fair bit of crap to the HD. The best thing to do is to open the case, let it cool to room temperature, blow a room fan into it, and start the machine. If you have problems that don't appear hard disk related at that point (ie, in the first minute or so) you've almost certainly cooked your cpu, and need to replace it. Otherwise, replace the fan, check the hd and you may be lucky. cheers, Martin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OT: wysiwyg://0 in logs
I work on a listings site for clubs around the world and have put a lot of work in it. This weekend this referrer showed up in the web logs: wysiwyg://0/http://www.spraci.co.uk/cgi-bin/listings.cgi What is wysiwyg:// Is that something Netscape Composer or some other web editor puts in? I just want to know if someone is ripping off our listings which wouldn't be nice. -- Rev Simon RumbleCurrent physical location: London, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED]Travel site: http://www.rumble.net/travel http://www.rumble.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Hi Jill, Jill Rowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] You really need to keep the fan going on a PC; without it you can cook things. ok, so is that permanently cook things? so far, in this machine, I must have have replaced the CPU fan at least 2-3 times (not buying the real el-cheapo ones either). This applies to any PC irrespective of what operating system it's running on. On more modern ones, sometimes the BIOS detects the temperature on the mobo / CPU and will not allow boot it the temperature is over a certain amount (whatever that is, varies from machine to machine). yeah seen that, not much use if it only prevents booting though. Anyway mine is the next case... On the older ones, the video often karks it first. It puts out maybe 7W of heat and is not necessarily in the path of the fan. sounds like mine. The only fans are the CPU fan and the one inside the power supply. [cut interesting disk stuff, can't say I've really thought about that before] Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The symptoms of overheating vary, usually wierd random crashes errors and lockups. If the fan is not spinning, that would definitely explain the problem. I've had a cpu fan fail and was getting all sorts of wierd symptoms, I don't remember exactly what. However, if the cpu has been overheating for some time, it may be damaged, and it may have written a fair bit of crap to the HD. dunno, the disks had seemed ok... The best thing to do is to open the case, let it cool to room temperature, blow a room fan into it, and start the machine. maybe that's why it started Sun night then, cos it had been off since Sat morning. If you have problems that don't appear hard disk related at that point (ie, in the first minute or so) you've almost certainly cooked your cpu, and need to replace it. Otherwise, replace the fan, check the hd and you may be lucky. ok, I'll give it a go. Thanks, Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Dave said: ok, so is that permanently cook things? Yes, if you keep it going. At worst, you can lose smoke... Also you might want to check how much dust fluff there is. Acts like an electrically conductive blanket. You might want to vacuum it out if it's real gross. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
I sent something about this last week but I guess it got lost with all the stuff about meeting formats, ADSL, etc. I have a Sony SDT-7000 tape drive to be used to back up a Linux server. Everything was fine until I tried to back up a large amount of data on a 20gb drive. I have tried using both dump and tar and with each got a message at the end of the first volume that it was time to change volumes. When I did so, I got an I/O error message and had to abort the dump (or tar). I suspect there may be something wrong with the driver. Formerly I used this same drive on a SCO Unix box without a problem. Thanks, Dennis GIF image
Re: [SLUG] OT: wysiwyg://0 in logs
quote who="Rev Simon Rumble" What is wysiwyg:// Netscape print preview. Alarming though, isn't it? I just want to know if someone is ripping off our listings which wouldn't be nice. Only if they're handing it out in the clubs, and that would be nice. ;) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- No clue is good clue. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Laptop-specific install-/fix-fest?
With all the discussion about SIGs and installfests, I thought I'd throw my 2c worth into the ring. I have Redhat 7.0 running on a Sony VAIO. I've been able to get everything working pretty much to my requirements, but haven't had a lot of luck getting the sound to work (as far as I can tell, there are two things that look like sound chips inside this machine). Tridge suggested moving to the 2.4 kernel and installing a particular module, but that's more than I'm happy to attempt by myself at the moment with this machine, because I use it all the time and I'd hate to break it. What I was thinking was it would be nice ... at least for me :-) ... to have either a laptop installfest, or a fix-it day where people more knowledgeable than me can help to sort out specific issues people are having with their setups. I'm not sure how many people out there have Linux running on a laptop, which is why I think a general fix-it session would potentially be more useful. If people had somewhere to send an explanation of their issues before the day, that would give people with hardware/kernel backgrounds a chance to think about the problems. Anyone else think this is a good idea? Or have all the previous installfests been like this anyway? I meant to get to one out at Macquarie uni a few of months ago, but something came up at the last minute that made me miss it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
How about we put a voting thingy on the website? :) yaya voting thingy! dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] The Great SLUG Social Vote
quote who="David Kempe" yaya voting thingy! I doubt Animal (Muppet legend if ever there was one) could have said it better himself. Thank you, David. ;) You can now vote *and* comment on the creation of a new list for SLUG randomness at URL: http://slug.org.au/. You will have to enter your email address, so we can filter out any bollocks votes. Some of the comments may be published when voting closes, so if you have any wisdom you'd like to share, please do. This is unofficial, and entirely unscientific (a quick hack on the website does not a referendum make). http://slug.org.au/ - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Getting magicpoint to recognise my freetype fonts.
Hi Guys, I have installed Magicpoint and gee it's great but need to get it working with TrueType fonts. If I configure with just ./configure I get: checking if --disable-freetype option specified... no checking for freetype library/header... /usr/lib and no checking for TT_Init_FreeType in -lttf... no Fatal: libttf.a not found so I configure with ./configue --disable-freetype and it goes fine and I can compile and it works but of course the display is bitty. I downloaded from www.freetype.org the free TrueType2.0 types and compiled it fine. The make install put several libraries in /usr/local/lib such as: libfreetype.a libfreetype.la libfreetype.so libfreetype.so.6 libfreetype.so.6.0.1 Nowthe README.fonts file that comes with MagicPoint says: "MagicPoint implements native support for the FreeType library. You can compile the renderer into MagicPoint. If you have the FreeType library (libttf.a) somewhere in your system, the "configure" script will find the library and links the library into the MagicPoint binary." So a ./configure in MagicPoint should now work. But ./configure still does not find it. I tried symlinking "libfreetype.a" to "libttf.a" as a guess but that didn't work. I have run ldconfig so the library database thingy should be up-to-date. What am I missing out on? Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 URL: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~michael-lake/ Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sony SDT-7000 tape drive problems
Dennis Gray wrote:
.snip...
I have a Sony SDT-7000 tape drive to be used to back up a Linux server.
Everything was fine until I tried to back up a large amount of data on a
20gb drive. I have tried using both dump and tar and with each got a message
at the end of the first volume that it was time to change volumes. When I
did so, I got an I/O error message and had to abort the dump (or tar).
Same problem here. I haven't solved it yet. I just split the backups.
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[SLUG] Ugh!
Well, After asking my question re laptop-specific installfests, I realised that I hadn't actually tried configuring the sound since I moved from 6.2 to 7.0, so I tried it. I ran sndconfig, it picked what seemed like the right Yamaha chip for my VAIO and sounded like it made a noise when it played the test sound, so I figured the volume was just too low. So, I said "Yes" when it asked whether I heard the sound. Of course, it updated my modules.conf file and then hung the machine completely! So, I powered it off and on again and now it hangs when it gets to starting the APM (power management). I have a nice little bootable recovery CD here, but that's not going to help much, since the machine doesn't have a CD drive. Is there any way I can tell the boot sequence to ignore the modules.conf file? Alternatively, where can I download a boot floppy image that will allow me to mount my hard drive, so I can move the file so I can reboot without it? As I say ... Ugh! Thanks for any help anyone can provide. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Getting magicpoint to recognise my freetype fonts.
try removing the config.cache or any other config files that might store wrong things. dave What am I missing out on? Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Ugh!
quote who="Harry Ohlsen" Is there any way I can tell the boot sequence to ignore the modules.conf file? Booting into single user mode may help... When LILO comes up, type: lilo entry single Alternatively, where can I download a boot floppy image that will allow me to mount my hard drive, so I can move the file so I can reboot without it? http://www.toms.net/rb/ - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I get my kicks above the .sigline, sunshine. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Fitch wrote: so far, in this machine, I must have have replaced the CPU fan at least 2-3 times (not buying the real el-cheapo ones either). Unless this is an old machine, I'd suggest a new brand of fan. it is an old machine (old in PC terms, it's younger than my sparc5 which has run untouched for yonks). But the fans I've replaced have all been with new ones. Perhaps you need to look at whole of case cooling, i.e. extra extraction and inlet fans to move air much faster through the case. yes I was coming to that conclusion myself Heatsink goo between the fan and CPU might also help move heat atout of the cpu better. yep sounds like mine. The only fans are the CPU fan and the one inside the power supply. If noise is not an issue, a 240v 5" fan ontop of the case will fix any over heating. Use a 12v if noise is the problem. minimal noise is better but noise is not the prime concern. I can make drill, hole cutters, nibbler, etc available on MacLUg days if you decide to go this way. thanks for the offer. I'd rather not mount it on top as my (external) cd burner and modem go there (at the moment efficent use of space is good). I was thinking of some of those fans that fit into a 5.25" slot on the front. Before all that though, I've got to get the damn thing working again. Dave (mumble mumble bloody PC shit etc). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The Great SLUG Social Vote
Rodos wrote:
VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN.
Who trains the people that run polling booths?
We had a by election on Saturday for the state seat of Campbelltown and
the young lass who handed out the voting papers was most emphatic that I
could only have one. I told her I thought it was VE - VO, but she
wouldn't budge {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
Jeff Waugh was once rumoured to have said: quote who="Howard Lowndes" I agree with this sentiment, but see this as being the precise reason why SLUG should not be fragmented. Trouble is, we have a pretty heavy list already, and all the time people are getting more and more annoyed with the casual fun stuff (the bits they think are a waste of time, whilst others might enjoy them). proposal Solution: We don't split the list, we standardise [and stick to] message tagging. If you're posting socially, then make sure you have a [social] in your subject. etc. The same goes for Newbie, etc. This is *REALLY* easy to filter in procmail and M$ products with message filtering. That way everybody gets the traffic, everybody can read it, and those who don't care can filter those threads into /dev/null with three lines in a .procmailrc. /proposal -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Laptop-specific install-/fix-fest?
On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:10:52 +1100 Harry Ohlsen wrote: I have Redhat 7.0 running on a Sony VAIO. I've been able to get everything working pretty much to my requirements, but haven't had a lot of luck getting the sound to work (as far as I can tell, there are two things that look like sound chips inside this machine). There seems to be alot of info on setting up linux on a vaio, what model do you have. Regards Mehmet Ozdemir This message powered by EMUMAIL. -- http://www.EMUMAIL.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] pppd problems with mgetty
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Richard Pang wrote: In the log file I get the error "yS1 can't get group 'modem': No such file So, do you have a 'modem' group? iii) Run the command "mgetty -D -a /dev/ttyS1" Dont use '-a' (autobaud), unless maybe if your modem is a museum piece. -- Mike Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==-- It is always the best policy to tell the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar. -- Jerome K. Jerome -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
The only downside to this is that the newbie will most likely be unaware of this protocol. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Crossfire wrote: The same goes for Newbie, etc. This is *REALLY* easy to filter in procmail and M$ products with message filtering. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The Great SLUG Social Vote
Having been a polling place manager for about 20 years now, for both state
and feral elections, I can tell you that you always get some PITA who
wastes your time. The favourites are those who can't decide how the
ballot paper works especially the big one, tears it into shreds and bins
it, and then asks for another. As each ballot paper has to be accounted
for (at least by an overall tally), they REALLY make your day.
If you really want to VE - VO then you could always go booth hopping.
It'll take about 3 months before they come to feel your collar (8-).
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LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Terry Collins wrote:
Rodos wrote:
VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN.
Who trains the people that run polling booths?
We had a by election on Saturday for the state seat of Campbelltown and
the young lass who handed out the voting papers was most emphatic that I
could only have one. I told her I thought it was VE - VO, but she
wouldn't budge {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
quote who="Howard Lowndes" The only downside to this is that the newbie will most likely be unaware of this protocol. Dare I say "56K"? Two lists gives you a choice in that regard too. *shrug* - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "The ability to procrastinate is what separates us from the machines." - Chris Gregory, Desktop Magazine -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
Howard Lowndes was once rumoured to have said: The only downside to this is that the newbie will most likely be unaware of this protocol. Document it with along with the "Before you post to this list" notes. Also, people would probably implicitly pick up on it with sufficent traffic running through the list. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.
Crossfire wrote: proposal If you're posting socially, then make sure you have a [social] in your subject. etc. [snip] /proposal better proposal Make a slug-social or slug-chat mail address that shares a common subscriber's list with [EMAIL PROTECTED], so the same people get sent the messages, but have the server prepend [social] to the subject of the messages. /better proposal -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Win4Lin, Kernel 2.4.x
Morning all, It is with much pain and gnashing of teeth that I install Windows on my Linux box, and I'm trying to avoid any more. I don't want to go back to the 2.2.x series... :) Has anyone found or made a patch to 2.4.x for Win4Lin? Netraverse sure don't have one so far. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- If Perl is gaffer, and Python Magic Tape, then Ruby is self-adhesive plate gold. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Bill Bennett wrote: The problem is that, at the moment, the laptop is infested with Windows 2000. I'd like to go completely over to Linux (ie, no partitioning. I assume that I should with a clean slate, ie., an empty hard disk, but I'm not sure how this can be done. The booklet accompanying the CDs is silent on the matter. So I asked about. The advice I've received thus far:--- 1) Uninstall Windows. 2) No, wipe the disk. 3) No, simply over write Windows. Can anyone comment on this, please? [I have a problem with logic here. It seems to me that I cannot order an operating system to destroy/remove itself, because what carries out this operation, ie., what's left after completion, is part of the operating system. Am I right?] 1) Obtain MSdos 6.x floppy boot disk. 2) Place MSDOS fdisk.exe program on MSDos 6.x disk 3) Boot from MSDos 6.x disk 4) Use fdisk.exe to remove all partitions from Winblows infection 5) Reboot from MSDos 6.x floppy 6) issue command "fdisk /mbr" from MSDos 6.x disk 7) Happily install Linux, Winblows infection removed. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
I'd like to install RH 7.0 on my laptop. The problem is that, at the moment, the laptop is infested with Windows 2000. I'd like to go completely over to Linux (ie, no partitioning. I assume that I should with a clean slate, ie., an empty hard disk, but I'm not sure how this can be done. The booklet accompanying the CDs is silent on the matter. So I asked about. The advice I've received thus far:--- 1) Uninstall Windows. 2) No, wipe the disk. 3) No, simply over write Windows. Can anyone comment on this, please? [I have a problem with logic here. It seems to me that I cannot order an operating system to destroy/remove itself, because what carries out this operation, ie., what's left after completion, is part of the operating system. Am I right?] Any help will be gratefully received. Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
Terry Collins wrote: Umm, I have no idea why changing your video card would affect the capture card, but obviously something in the TNT2 M64 now interferres with the capture card. Ordinarily I would tend to agree, but I upgraded to the nvidia 0.9.6 drivers last week and it broke... well lotsa stuff really. I was surprised to see really bad TV quality too. Like interference in the Xawtv window while moving the mouse etc. Changing the capture method from 'overlay' to 'grabdisplay' made it even worse. Needless to say... death to the 0.96 drivers, im back to using 0.95 (which works perfectly with my GF2 MX). But I dont think this is what he's having trouble with (seeing as he doesnt know where to d/l the new drivers). Just thought I'd bitch about how annoying the new 0.96 drivers were :-) Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
Start the RH 7.0 installation CD, using either boot floppies (which can be made using the CD under Windows, there are instructions there somewhere on the setup CD), or boot straight off the CD. Continue with the RH setup and somewhere you will reach the 'Disk Druid' partitioning part of the setup, choose something like "Advanced' to make/delete/look at the partitions on your drive. Here it should show what partitions you have and what type they are. Since you want no part of Windows, happily delete it's partition, then create what you need for Linux. (If you have no idea what you need, try 1 Linux Swap partition at 1.5 times your RAM amount, and the rest an ext2 Linux Filesystem), that is TWO partitions on your Hard drive. Continue with the RH setup. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
Arunava Sen wrote:
Terry Collins wrote:
Umm, I have no idea why changing your video card would affect the
capture card, but obviously something in the TNT2 M64 now interferres
with the capture card.
Ordinarily I would tend to agree, but I upgraded to the nvidia 0.9.6 drivers last
week and it broke... well lotsa stuff really. I was surprised to see really bad
If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.
So why did I upgrade from CPM then?
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Re: [SLUG] Installing RH 7.0
Huh? 1) Obtain MSdos 6.x floppy boot disk. 2) Place MSDOS fdisk.exe program on MSDos 6.x disk 3) Boot from MSDos 6.x disk 4) Use fdisk.exe to remove all partitions from Winblows infection 5) Reboot from MSDos 6.x floppy 6) issue command "fdisk /mbr" from MSDos 6.x disk 7) Happily install Linux, Winblows infection removed. I think that by "no partitioning" he meant no dual boot or seperate partition for Linux/windoze, not "I don't want to re-partition the disk". In which case just whack the CD in and go for it, do a text based install, chose fdisk as the tool, re-partition as desired, ( though I recommend a 16M /boot as the first partition on the disk) write the partition table, can/exit that install and re-start but this time in graphics mode (where you don't get a choice of fdisk, hence the mucking around with the text based install). 'course if you're paranoid about doze virus infections then do a low level format using the bios first. HTH Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian Install
Good afternoon all I am afraid I am becoming one of those Debian converts. In the last few days I have finished setting up a Debian based firewall (welll actually a firewall is never finished). The simplicity of apt-cache search, apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade is great. /flamesuit on What I am finding with Debian is they seem to have sorted out dependencies better than Redhat. With Redhat an installation of less than "install everything" seemed to be full of problems. So far, with Debian this has not been the case. I must say, however, I have not yet played with X setup under Debian. I might still change my mind about it. /flamesuit off Anyway, to the problem. I am now attempting to make my Acer portable dual boot W2k and Linux. Once I get Debian base installed it wants to re-boot. I have created a boot floppy so I can test it without breaking W2k. The bootup hangs seemingly indefinitely on pcmcia modules install. I tried re-installing and editing modules.conf to see if I could stop the pcmcia probe. This file tells me to look at another configuation file (modeprobe or something that I have now forgotten) but that file/directory does not exist. Any suggestions about how to stop pcmcia loading? I have not selected it as a module to load in the initial configuration. regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [ANN] Interest in a Debian SIG [Was: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]]
I'm going to post to the list when I sort out a venue. I may have to change from the venue I originally targeted due to the amount of interest. :) On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 03:32:47 James Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Craige McWhirter said: At present, the setting of sweeping views of Sydney Harbour by night, Jeff and myself sitting a darkened room lit only by the glows of our Debian systems, leaves me feeling a little bit less comfortable than I like to be. I can think of 2, maybe 3 people who would be interested in a debian SIG, myself included. -- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using (o_ ' Windows NT for mission-critical applications." //\ -- What Yoda *meant* to say, Devin L. Ganger, scary.devil.monastery v_/_ -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Terry Collins wrote: So why did I upgrade from CPM then? CP/M wasn't broke? Coulda bloody well fooled me! :-) DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Getting magicpoint to recognise my freetype fonts.
Hi Everyone, There were a few things I was doing wrong. I was not clearing the config.cache (tnx Dave), magicpoint was not looking in /usr/local/lib (thanks Marty) and more importantly libttf.a was in fact in the FreeType1 distribution not the FreeType2 distribution (thanks Jeff). I now have FreeType1 compiled and installed and ./configure in magicpoint finds libttf.a and compiles for TrueType fonts. I restarted te xfs font server and X windows. I hate to say it but they are still bitty compared to LaTeX fonts in PostScript :-( Thanks all. Mike -- --- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Ph: 9514 1724 Fx: 9514 1628 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~mikel --- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
DaZZa wrote:
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Terry Collins wrote:
So why did I upgrade from CPM then?
CP/M wasn't broke?
Coulda bloody well fooled me!
I had a word processor - Spellbinder,
I had a spread sheet - Super Calc
I had a database - Dbase II
I had comms (300 baud)
I had email - Fidonet
I had games - space invaders, and that other boring thing,
The list goes on.
I even had a S100 bus
The machine was luggable
Then the cmos battery shat itself and carved out tracks in the mobo
(hand size)
And I then had an unrepairable ophan, but CP/M was fine.
Actually, the only thing I was missing was a computer compiler - I just
wasn't too keen on hand compiling.
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[SLUG] re : Debian Install
I wrote Any suggestions about how to stop pcmcia loading? I have not selected it as a module to load in the initial configuration. It never fails. You can spend an hour looking for the answer to a problem and 5 minutes after emailing the list you find the answer. Of course pcmcia is not loaded as a module it is loaded through a script in init.d. I was also looking at the wrong site for laptops and have now found the guide for my particular laptop at http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
CP/M = rotten non-re-entrant piece of code. At least Linux runs under Linux! -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 16:21 To: Terry Collins Cc: Arunava Sen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Terry Collins wrote: So why did I upgrade from CPM then? CP/M wasn't broke? Coulda bloody well fooled me! :-) DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dhcpd.. thanks all
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 05:52:50AM +1100, Alex Salmon uttered: ahha about an hour after that so did all thoseusers on our network that now have net acess better then evr. once again thanks slug. alex _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
