Re: [SLUG] Gateway machine
I am using Redhat 7.0. One network card is a realtek 10 Tbase clone (the one the network doesn't use)and I can't remember what the other is. Jon Biddell wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2001 18:12, you wrote: Sluggers, I am new to Linux networking, I know how to navigate linux as a workstation, but today, I purchased myself a second network card, to make this machine a gateway. The problem is, that I now have 2 network cards, and both networks (eth0 my bigpond cable connection, and eth1 my interal network) try to use both the same network card and both networks fall over. I use ip 192.168.0.* for my internal network, this should be right? but how do I assign a particualar network to a network card? I might also add this in, how do I allow the winblows machine access to the net? use ipv4 and set this as the gateway on the linux machine? What distribution of Linux are you using ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Micros~1 adds on bus stops
hehe, thats a good idea :) On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, Has anybody noticed all the M$ adds popping up on bus stops here in Sydney? The line they're pushing is "Business runs better with Micorsoft". Wouldn't it be really cool to get some stickers made up saying "Everything runs faster, cheaper AND better with Linux" and pasting these up over the M$ ones? Erik -- +--+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes its valid) +--+ "I've nothing against OO, I do have something against C++. Its a dogs dinner. Anyone who's (tried) to read Stroustrups book on C++ like I had the misfortune of doing knows that the man is very intelligent but has about as much clarity of thought as Timothy Leary on a bad day." -- NJR in comp.os.linux.development.apps -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] setting Sender in postfix
I'm using postfix and mutt. I have my From address set to the email.com domain but my machine's FQDN is spiral.localnet and I have postfix setting the hostname to spiral and the domain to homeip.net. The problem is the Sender header gets set to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", whereas I would rather it's my email.com address, cos Sender is what seems to be used for bounces and mail delivery problems - so I mostly miss out on those. Should it be set in postfix or mutt? I can't find any useful references in the doco of either of them, and just setting a Sender header in mutt appears to be replaced by one generated by postfix. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Gnome 1.2 Easter Eggs
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:45:34PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who="Paul Cameron"
I like having all of the screen to myself, and minimising distractions.
For me, distractions are fancy window decorations, sound effects
whenever I so much as look at my wm, image background. fvwm doesn't
require much configuration to give that to me.
To each their own. "That's very pretty, now give me a fucking xterm"
I switched to sawfish from wmx, and consider myself a
"minimalist window manager" kind of guy. I stopped using
fvwm several years ago because maintaining the gargantuan
configuration file was getting me down. And I didn't like the
motif-esque window style, but that's a style isssue, and you
can't legislate that, can you...
With both wmx and my current sawfish config, xterm is at the top
of the right-mouse-root menu, so takes almost no effort at all.
You can (and I did) run sawfish without the rest of gnome, or
the space-sapping pannel. I am running it now though, to see if
it's useful. I'm not convinced, but it doesn't get in the way
too much when I have it on the right hand side of the screen,
with my rclock and xload applications docked into it. I still
don't run the gmc desktop file manager thingy, although I did
run kfm under wmx for a while.
Ah, so that's it.
See, now you have no excuse to be using fvwm. ;) I've mentioned it before:
Use lwm. It's beautifully small. [ See sig. ]
The thing that I particularly like about sawfish is that the
configuration is in scheme scripts. Dig my current .sawfishrc:
(require 'sawmill-defaults)
(setq apps-menu '(
("xterm" (system "xterm "))
("Mail-Mutt" (system "~/.wmx/Mail/Mutt "))
("Mail-Mozilla" (system "~/.wmx/Mail/Mozilla "))
("Mail-TKRat" (system "~/.wmx/Mail/TKRat "))
("News" (system "~/.wmx/News "))
("Notes" (system "~/.wmx/Notes "))
()
("Netscape" (system "netscape "))
("Galeon" (system "galeon "))
("Mozilla" (system "mozilla "))
()
("Address Book" (system "xmaddressbook "))
("Emacs" (system "gnuclient "))
("StarOffice" (system "~/.wmx/StarOffice "))
("VNC" (system "vncviewer "))
("GV" (system "ggv "))
("XMMS" (system "~/.wmx/XMMS "))
("xcalc" (system "xcalc ")))
)
Yes: Most of my sawfish config still uses my wmx config, which
was the best thing since sliced bread. I'm fairly confident
that if I expended a few brain cycles, it wouldn't be hard to
write a sawfish apps-menu that actually read this stuff out of
the .wmx directory, and created it on the fly, for full wmx
compatability.
I stopped using wmx because (a) it was a little unstable, and
would do odd things from time to time, and (b) the neat-looking
shaped windows were really quite slow, in spite of the
minimalist, flat decoration.
Re lwm: I haven't used it, but sawfish doesn't have icons or
button bars, or icon docks either. It does have root menus. I
can't imagine why you'd want to live without them, and am not
sure why you would necessarily want to run _another_ program to
get them. (The NCD X-Terminals that I used in about '90 had a
built-in WM without a root menu. That made sense, because the
root menu typically wants to run applications, and that's a good
deal harder from the context of an X-Terminal. That doesn't
really apply in the normal workstation environment though.)
I find that I really _like_ that sawfish can configure most of
the sorts of things that you normally have to stuff around with
config files for with a nice GUI thing, and has really good
support for keyboard control.
Wow: that bit of sawfish advocacy certainly seemes to have
become a bit of a rant. Sorry. I've been wasting time tweaking
window managers since about '87 or '88, and with sawfish I
almost think that that's behind me.
--
Andrew
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Re: [SLUG] Control vs. Caps Lock
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:30:25AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: One of the first things I do with a new Linux setup is swap capslock and ctrl. Some people even go further and map capslock to ctrl, i.e. no capslock left. I'm beginning to think that makes sense too. For the uninitiated, this is most easily done in the XF86Config "InputDevice" section, with a line like: Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" I agree with ken. The PC101 keyboard was wrong. A real Unix keyboard, like all of the Sun ones, and every X terminal I ever used, (and DEC VT-series terminals?) and my current IBM Trackpoint keyboard has the control key just to the left of the "A" key. -- Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
Okay, it's a weird one but I rooly trooly need to know the font that is used in the Debian logo. A fair amount of searching has found for me a creepy amount of information about the logo (how much is there to say about a logo?) except the font. Any clue sticks out there? -- Cheers, Craige. --- Apt-get a clue. Apt-get Debian. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
Ask the person who desinged it?? Was that in the information?? Dan - Original Message - From: "Craige McWhirter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:52 PM Subject: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font? Okay, it's a weird one but I rooly trooly need to know the font that is used in the Debian logo. A fair amount of searching has found for me a creepy amount of information about the logo (how much is there to say about a logo?) except the font. Any clue sticks out there? -- Cheers, Craige. --- Apt-get a clue. Apt-get Debian. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 10:41:01PM +1100, Dan Treacy wrote: Ask the person who desinged it?? Was that in the information?? Good point Dan. I should have really put more info in. All I've found thus far is that the designer was one "Raul". No reference to email or any other 'net service. Even the original contest page at contest.gimp.org is gone. Perhaps someone know how to extract font info from PDF/EPS files? I do have these version of the logo. Okay, it's a weird one but I rooly trooly need to know the font that is used in the Debian logo. A fair amount of searching has found for me a creepy amount of information about the logo (how much is there to say about a logo?) except the font. -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
quote who="Craige McWhirter" Perhaps someone know how to extract font info from PDF/EPS files? I do have these version of the logo. In most vector drawing apps you'll be able to split the paths of the text up from the rest of the logo. Unless you have any really strange needs, this should suffice for just about any use. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "Everyone says they like Free Software - not everyone is ready to make the tough choices to make it happen." - Maciej Stachowiak, GNOME Hacker -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Printing problem on small home network
I have a small home network of three computers. longwing (running SuSE 6.4), adler (running Debian-unstable) and superchook (running Debian 1.3.1). There is a printer on longwing and I can print from this machine ok. If I try to print from adler I get the following: ken@adler:~$ lpr packages.txt ken@adler:~$ lpq adler: waiting for queue to be enabled on longwing.myplace Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stken2packages.txt 36178 bytes longwing: /usr/sbin/lpd: raw: Your host does not have line printer access ken@adler:~$ What do I have to do to enable the queue? Am I right in thinking that the problem is on longwing? I can ftp files between the machines in both directions. /etc/printcap on adler is as follows lp|Remote printer entry:\ :lp=:\ :rm=longwing.myplace:\ :rp=lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: adler is listed in /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.equiv and /etc/hosts.lpd on longwing. cluesticks anyone? regards, ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] setting Sender in postfix
quote who="Dave Fitch" Should it be set in postfix or mutt? I can't find any useful references in the doco of either of them, and just setting a Sender header in mutt appears to be replaced by one generated by postfix. ~/.muttrc: my_hdr From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "It's only ironic because it's true." - Reflexive irony, overheard. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] The things we do to low-end machines...
quote who="Andrew Reilly" Re lwm: I haven't used it, but sawfish doesn't have icons or button bars, or icon docks either. It does have root menus. I can't imagine why you'd want to live without them, and am not sure why you would necessarily want to run _another_ program to get them. Now you must read this: http://advogato.org/article/248.html Especially the clueless rant from 'cmm', who manages to diss one of the cornerstones of Unix philosophy, calling it "completely nuts". I use Sawfish too, on my main machine. It's thin, not lacking in features, infinitely customisable (it's the Emacs of window managers), and very perky with the Eazel-developed Crux theme. ;) I'm running WindowMaker on the new SPARC, but only to play with... and to remember Uni, when every other poor sod was running fvwm! ;) lwm will go on soon. One click, and I have a terminal, plus I use the very cool minimal menu that Elliott wrote to go with it. Finally, take a peek at this: http://lazarus.aphid.net/misc/nautilus-sparc.png - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- 100% Pure Slashdot Wisdom: "Source code gives a whole new meaning to free software." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] setting Sender in postfix
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 11:16:08PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Dave Fitch" Should it be set in postfix or mutt? I can't find any useful references in the doco of either of them, and just setting a Sender header in mutt appears to be replaced by one generated by postfix. ~/.muttrc: my_hdr From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another way is: set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" set use_from It'll get your name from your GECOS field. But, my_hdr is nice, since with send-hooks you can modify your email address, depending on who/what you are sending your email to. Paul. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] setting Sender in postfix
On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 11:16:08PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Dave Fitch" Should it be set in postfix or mutt? I can't find any useful references in the doco of either of them, and just setting a Sender header in mutt appears to be replaced by one generated by postfix. ~/.muttrc: my_hdr From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] The really cool thing about mutt though is that you can make it do different things based on what folder your in ie I use these entries so depending who I'm emailing I get the email address I prefer them to use. my_hdr From: John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook work 'my_hdr From: John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook uni 'my_hdr From: John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -- John Ferlito Senior Engineer - Bulletproof Networks ph: +61 (0) 410 519 382 http://www.bulletproof.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] XMMS Stuff
Anyone know about XMMS mp3 Player on RH7? After XMMS use and proper exiting, when I log out the machine hangs for a while then gives a message 'xmms - no response to Save Yourself command etc' and I have to click on 'remove program'. What's wrong? (Anyway I thought we were supposed to save the 'women and children' first!) Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Why do the spammers bother [was] Re: [SLUG] GETTING BACK TO YOU
I sometime wonder what the motive is in spammers using crippled URLs such as this. I assume the purpose of the spam and the URL is to get the mug punter to go to their site, but I tried it in both Netscape and IE5 and it worked in neither. Are these URLs auto created? I also have my doubts about the 'remove' address, other than the fact that it should never be used under any circumstances. As for the rest, well it just has to be human generated as I cannot believe that a machine could spell so badly. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANOTHER CAHNCE HI, THANKS FOR YOUR INTREST. PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO CLICK BELOW THIS HAS LITERALLY CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER. http://%3350%36%35%36%31%349%37/%6E%65%77%6F%66%66e%72%7A%33%34%356 IF THE LINK IS NOT HIGHLIGHTED OR YOU CANNOT CLICK ON IT. COPY AND PASTE IT IN YOUR BROWSER. TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE DATABASE, EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] WITH REMOVE SOMEWHERE IN THE SUBJECT LINE OR BODY TEXT. THANK YOU. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to deal with difficult Evilware users
Jon Biddell wrote: Apart from killing them, have a look at http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp This link is broken, but I always then wander up the tree to see who lives at the top. There are some nice Linux/M$ jokes if you just type in: http://www.hwnd.net You will find the old... If Operating Systems were ... * Beers * Cars * Televisions * Chickens * Airlines * Shooting yourself in the foot Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 URL: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~michael-lake/ Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Micros~1 adds on bus stops
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Wouldn't it be really cool to get some stickers made up saying "Everything runs faster, cheaper AND better with Linux" and pasting these up over the M$ ones? Actually it's not good at all. There is a Linux advocacy HOWTO which is required reading for a certificate in activist Linux revolutionary training :-) Have a read of it. Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 URL: http://www.science.uts.edu.au/~michael-lake/ Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] BPay/St.George with Linux/Netscape 4.75
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Grahame Kelly wrote: Can anyone using Netscape 4.75 at St.George Bank help me out a little. My problem, is when I try to BPAY an amount to a vendor - after filling out all the details and depressing the "next arrow", the browser aborts (every time) i.e. completely kills itself and I have to restart another Netscape session (on SuSE 6.4/KDE). I had the same problem last Wednesday. But usually it works fine. I often find that hitting the `resize window' button to download and run alternative java code seems to fix problems like that. So if the large size doesn't work, try the small one. It's silly, but it does seem to work! Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cp command - Argument list too long
Bernhard Lder wrote: Hi, What is the solution for this? I am trying to copy files and directories from on place to another for backup purposes I use the following command Try, $ find . -print | cpio -pdmuv /backup -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Gnome 1.2 Easter Eggs
This explains why my GNOME managed sessions used up all my RAM ;) I switched to E, use the same GNOME apps and never use more than 32M ;) I guess now it was GNOME session management caching all the easter eggs in RAM ;) On 24 Feb 2001 11:59:47 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Okay, time to take the GEGL out of the hat. :) 1) Open the Gnome Control Centre, click to open the Panel configuration capplet. Right-triple-click at the bottom of the tab frame. 2) Open gnome-about (may as well run this from the run menu). Right click on the Gnome logo, and type 'gnome'. When the thing that appears appears, click it. This is much funnier if you have audio output. 3) Open the Search Tool from the Utilities menu. Right-triple-click near the bottom of the window. There *are* more! And yes, there are newer and wackier ones in Gnome 1.4. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Woody or Sid?
I'm planning a dist-uprgrade tonight on my potato box, from mirror.cse.unsw. So I was wondering what the Debianites think about the current non-stable branches? Is anything sufficiently broken in unstable right now to avoid it? It's only a desktop machine, and I'll be getting gnome from the ximian unstable site, but I *need* X4.0.1 to run my RIVA accelerated (mmm purty pictures). Points to mention: I have to drag this box upstairs to apt-get over the net, so i'd prefer something which *fairly* stable (56k Link). I know about getting perl-5.6 out of unstable before dist-upgrade, are there any other gotcha's? TIA P.S How able is Alien? All these magazines come with nice flashy RPM packages which sometimes would be good to update with, or is this going to horribly pollute my Deb system -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Disk Full
Hi, I have recently installed AUC on one of our old servers and am now a victim of my own success. I have found this morning that the disk is full and no one can use the email on the system (for obvious reasons!). I have connected to the server (SuSE 7.0) using samba from my W2K machine. When I look at a users directory properties, it reports two sizes: Size 115 Kb Size on Disk 1.37Mb df gives me: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 1937308 1847344 0100% / /dev/sda1 7496 2633 4463 37% /boot Given that adding 160 users has chewed up close to 250Mb of HDD I believe the second figure of 1.37Mb. I have deleted a number of old gz, tar and rpm files today but still I have no space available, should have freed up close to 70Mb Why the difference? What is the difference? Is it pre-allocated disk space for them? If this is normal then how do I add a second HDD and move the users home directories over to it? The machine currently has a SCSI drive and I have another old server that I can steal another SCSI drive from. Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Personal sacrifice and free software
James Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Ian Tester said: Erm, frei? freisoftware? Don't know too much German... 'Zimmer frei' literally translates as 'free room' -- I think some hackers will take offence at their software being labelled as 'empty' :) And free as in 'no cost' is usually 'kostenlos' in German. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
I need to know the font so I can generate matching images/text output. Will the vector programmes give me this? I couldn't get it out of the pdf/eps files via GIMP/gv/xfig. Should I have used another tool or have I missed something? On 25 Feb 2001 23:12:28 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Perhaps someone know how to extract font info from PDF/EPS files? I do have these version of the logo. In most vector drawing apps you'll be able to split the paths of the text up from the rest of the logo. Unless you have any really strange needs, this should suffice for just about any use. -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
Do: df -i to see if you have run out of inodes. You might have a runaway process. Do: ps ax and look for something that is using a lot of CPU time. I have found that logrotate sometimes runs away when using compression. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Simon Bryan wrote: Hi, I have recently installed AUC on one of our old servers and am now a victim of my own success. I have found this morning that the disk is full and no one can use the email on the system (for obvious reasons!). I have connected to the server (SuSE 7.0) using samba from my W2K machine. When I look at a users directory properties, it reports two sizes: Size 115 Kb Size on Disk 1.37Mb df gives me: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 1937308 1847344 0100% / /dev/sda1 7496 2633 4463 37% /boot Given that adding 160 users has chewed up close to 250Mb of HDD I believe the second figure of 1.37Mb. I have deleted a number of old gz, tar and rpm files today but still I have no space available, should have freed up close to 70Mb Why the difference? What is the difference? Is it pre-allocated disk space for them? If this is normal then how do I add a second HDD and move the users home directories over to it? The machine currently has a SCSI drive and I have another old server that I can steal another SCSI drive from. Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The things we do to low-end machines...
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Andrew Reilly" Re lwm: I haven't used it, but sawfish doesn't have icons or button bars, or icon docks either. It does have root menus. I can't imagine why you'd want to live without them, and am not sure why you would necessarily want to run _another_ program to get them. Now you must read this: http://advogato.org/article/248.html Has anyone on the list tried aewm? It seems even smaller than lwm and claims to be ICCM compliant (whatever that ma mean). I am using lwm on this machine but it does not handle the drop down menus in WordPerfect correctly. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
Simon Bryan wrote: I have deleted a number of old gz, tar and rpm files today but still I have no space available, should have freed up close to 70Mb Why the difference? What is the difference? Is it pre-allocated disk space for them? When ext2 partitions are created, 5% of the space is reserved for root by default. The Use% parameter shown by df is the percentage of the space available to users that is used. You can control the amount of space reserved for root only when you create the partition, by specifying it as a switch to the mke2fs command. Unfortunately, none of the distributions that I've ever installed let you specify the amount of reserved space before creating the partitions. In the past I've booted first with something like tomsrtbt (http://www.toms.net/rb/) and create the partitions manually before performing the real installation. These days I install Debian and it's just a matter of Alt-F2-ing to a prompt to manually mke2fs the partitions mid-installation. If you want to fix it, do a backup, re-mke2fs the partition (man mke2fs will help) and restore the backup. Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 10:55:28AM +1100, Matthew Dalton wrote: Simon Bryan wrote: I have deleted a number of old gz, tar and rpm files today but still I have no space available, should have freed up close to 70Mb Why the difference? What is the difference? Is it pre-allocated disk space for them? When ext2 partitions are created, 5% of the space is reserved for root by default. The Use% parameter shown by df is the percentage of the space available to users that is used. You can control the amount of space reserved for root only when you create the partition, by specifying it as a switch to the mke2fs command. Unfortunately, none of the distributions that I've ever installed let you specify the amount of reserved space before creating tune2fs is your friend. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])*** Jenna has joined the channel. cat speaking of mental giants.. Jenna me, a giant, bullshit Jenna And i'm not mental - An IRC session, 20/12/2000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Printing problem on small home network
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ken Caldwell wrote: I have a small home network of three computers. longwing (running SuSE 6.4), adler (running Debian-unstable) and superchook (running Debian 1.3.1). There is a printer on longwing and I can print from this machine ok. If I try to print from adler I get the following: ken@adler:~$ lpr packages.txt ken@adler:~$ lpq adler: waiting for queue to be enabled on longwing.myplace Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stken2packages.txt 36178 bytes longwing: /usr/sbin/lpd: raw: Your host does not have line printer access snip I think what you want to do is add "adler" to /etc/hosts.lpd. Cheers, Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 11:17:47AM +1100, Simon Bryan wrote: If I am reading all this correctly then the best this will get me is 5%?? Don't mean that to sound ungrateful! I've set it down to 0 before. The default's 5. ...and I should unmount the filesystem first? Only if it doesn't work with it mounted. ;) [lots of overquoting snipped] -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])*** Jenna has joined the channel. cat speaking of mental giants.. Jenna me, a giant, bullshit Jenna And i'm not mental - An IRC session, 20/12/2000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
If I am reading all this correctly then the best this will get me is 5%?? Don't mean that to sound ungrateful! ...and I should unmount the filesystem first? At 11:01 26/02/2001, CaT wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 10:55:28AM +1100, Matthew Dalton wrote: Simon Bryan wrote: I have deleted a number of old gz, tar and rpm files today but still I have no space available, should have freed up close to 70Mb Why the difference? What is the difference? Is it pre-allocated disk space for them? When ext2 partitions are created, 5% of the space is reserved for root by default. The Use% parameter shown by df is the percentage of the space available to users that is used. You can control the amount of space reserved for root only when you create the partition, by specifying it as a switch to the mke2fs command. Unfortunately, none of the distributions that I've ever installed let you specify the amount of reserved space before creating tune2fs is your friend. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])*** Jenna has joined the channel. cat speaking of mental giants.. Jenna me, a giant, bullshit Jenna And i'm not mental - An IRC session, 20/12/2000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
No only 27% in use and nothing suspicious in terms of processes At 10:32 26/02/2001, you wrote: Do: df -i to see if you have run out of inodes. You might have a runaway process. Do: ps ax and look for something that is using a lot of CPU time. Hi, I have recently installed AUC on one of our old servers and am now a victim of my own success. I have found this morning that the disk is full and no one can use the email on the system (for obvious reasons!). I have connected to the server (SuSE 7.0) using samba from my W2K machine. When I look at a users directory properties, it reports two sizes: Size 115 Kb Size on Disk 1.37Mb df gives me: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 1937308 1847344 0 100% / /dev/sda1 7496 2633 4463 37% /boot Given that adding 160 users has chewed up close to 250Mb of HDD I believe the second figure of 1.37Mb. I have deleted a number of old gz, tar and rpm files today but still I have no space available, should have freed up close to 70Mb Why the difference? What is the difference? Is it pre-allocated disk space for them? If this is normal then how do I add a second HDD and move the users home directories over to it? The machine currently has a SCSI drive and I have another old server that I can steal another SCSI drive from. Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] SNMP vs Netsaint
Hey sluggers, I have a general monitoring assignment and i need to descide between SNMP and netsaint. Now i know they can be used together, however if I can get away with just netsaint that would be nice. What do people think of UCD-SNMP? Is anyone using it? also what are peoples opinions on SNMP in general? does it afford easier monitoring of linux boxes. All we need to monitor is linux boxes, so other devide support is not a must. I have found that SNMP seems pretty tricky to setup for a basic monitoring situation. The conditions we need to monitor are just load, disk space and perhaps ping an upstream router. Are people using netsaint for this? Any other tools that are easy to setup and manage? Output triggers to paging such as qpage. thanks, dave __ solutionsFirst.net Consulting http://solutionsfirst.net Ph: (02) 9413 9604 Fax: (02) 9413 9719 Mob: 0413 022 143 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Full
CaT wrote: tune2fs is your friend. Oooh, cool. Learnt something new today. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
Thanks David, I appreciate this. Drop me a line when you've found it. On 26 Feb 2001 11:43:52 +1100, David Kempe wrote: I need to know the font so I can generate matching images/text output. Will the vector programmes give me this? I couldn't get it out of the pdf/eps files via GIMP/gv/xfig. Should I have used another tool or have I missed something? For font matching i sometimes resort to a big book of fonts like the ones that come with CorelDraw and a magnifiying glass. Or a whole list of fonts. If you have a big enough list all it takes is time -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian SPARC Installation Method
Jeff Waugh wrote:
I decided to write a log. I'll flesh this out into an intelligent guide if
needs be (however it seems the Debian documentation is good enough... too
easy).
00:40 Sent "Start the clock!" email to SLUG list.
00:53 Powered up Sun machine. Bugger me, this monitor is big.
01:02 Downloading tftpboot.img, reading installation instructions.
Something in between a HOWTO a Dummies guide would be rather helpful,
i.e.
Download from where? how? - what did you download and what did you do
with it.
What errors did you find and how did you fix them?
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[SLUG] motorola cable to DOCSIS cable
I have a gateway/firewall box that used to be on BPA using the old Motorola cable modem. Ive moved and got BPA reconnected at my new premises and its using the new Nortel DOCSIS modems (this is a good thing). I will be setting up my gateway tonight to use the cable again, is there anyone that has made this change over before? Judging from what ive seen I dont think I need to do anything different. I still need to run bpalogin to get going. Im not after a basics of getting cable going in *nix, Ive got that going its just I thought that Telstra new DOCSIS cable network was the same as Optus's in that I didnt need to actually login. This is what has me confused. TIA Andrew -- Andrew Best -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian SPARC Installation Method
quote who="Terry Collins" Something in between a HOWTO a Dummies guide would be rather helpful, I considered writing one, but there's really no point. It's all explained elsewhere, so I'd be replicating work already done. Download from where? how? - what did you download and what did you do with it. You only need one link: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst What errors did you find and how did you fix them? All of them were flesh-ridden, and described in the log. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "Can we have a special TELSABUG category, and everything gets dropped to fix them first?" - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] usb webcams
hey, from doing a few searches i can see there's support for quite a few usb webcams, does anyone have any experiences with getting these going under linux? Alexander. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] motorola cable to DOCSIS cable
Andrew, Nothing that I would know of. All I did was setup my network, blah blah blah execute bpalogin and i was off. The best thing I found to do to make sure the network works, just type ftp update-server even before executing bpalogin if that connects your flying -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Best Sent: Monday, 26 February 2001 1:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] motorola cable to DOCSIS cable I have a gateway/firewall box that used to be on BPA using the old Motorola cable modem. Ive moved and got BPA reconnected at my new premises and its using the new Nortel DOCSIS modems (this is a good thing). I will be setting up my gateway tonight to use the cable again, is there anyone that has made this change over before? Judging from what ive seen I dont think I need to do anything different. I still need to run bpalogin to get going. Im not after a basics of getting cable going in *nix, Ive got that going its just I thought that Telstra new DOCSIS cable network was the same as Optus's in that I didnt need to actually login. This is what has me confused. TIA Andrew -- Andrew Best -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] usb webcams
Alexander Else was once rumoured to have said: hey, from doing a few searches i can see there's support for quite a few usb webcams, does anyone have any experiences with getting these going under linux? Uh. yes. I have a CPIA USB webcam set up in our office. I'm now using RedHat 7, camE and Linux 2.4.1+devfs Don't do it using a stock Lin.2.2.18 unless you like rebooting a lot. To test it, use xawtv to make sure you're getting input from the camera. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] usb webcams
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 01:51:08PM +1100, Alexander Else wrote: from doing a few searches i can see there's support for quite a few usb webcams, does anyone have any experiences with getting these going under linux? I've been using a Philips Vesta cam for a while now with the 2.4-pre, and now 2.4.0 kernels. In my experience, the driver is rock-solid, and I get better performance in Linux than Windows. I haven't tried with a 2.2 kernel, but I hear the driver works well with those kernels as well. If you don't mind using a closed-source driver (The author has entered into an NDA with Philips..), it's an excellent choice. xawtv is really designed for tuner cards and the like. I don't think it's ever actually worked for me. There are much better apps around for looking at webcam output like camstream and gspy. Cheers, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Look, Ma! I've got a new email address!) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Disk Full - Follow Up
I was able to use tune2fs to get my system going again, and have spent the best part of today deleting unwanted packages (mozilla, netscape, StarOffice etc.) I would like to unistall KDE as well, (this system is purely a server - no monitor etc). I am using a mixture of Webmin and commandline rpm uninstalls. Is there a way to delete the entire KDE package and its dependents in one go - as opposed to nodeps which still leaves the other packages installed. There is another 175MB waiting to be reclaimed and the rate I am going it will take me another day yet. Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] cp command - Argument list too long
This would not exactly work, as I want to file to be DOZE readable in case the main server goes down. More like a mirror, that is updated once a night, I guess. But do you have any suggestion on total mirroring? Point me in the right direction for RTFM, please. Bernhard Lder This electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender by electronic mail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Rundle Sent: Monday, 26 February 2001 09:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] cp command - Argument list too long Bernhard Lder wrote: Hi, What is the solution for this? I am trying to copy files and directories from on place to another for backup purposes I use the following command Try, $ find . -print | cpio -pdmuv /backup -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cp command - Argument list too long
Bernhard Lder wrote: This would not exactly work, as I want to file to be DOZE readable in case the main server goes down. More like a mirror, that is updated once a night, I guess. But do you have any suggestion on total mirroring? Point me in the right direction for RTFM, please. For "total mirroring", I use rsync fired off via cron each night. Very easy to set up, very quick and ssh friendly. See http://rsync.samba.org/ I think. Regards, Shaun -- Shaun Cloherty Graduate School of Biomedical Engineering University of New South Wales -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] About the oe2mbx
Sir , I have followed this archive to get the downloads and install that so that I can see the .pst formated mails in my linux machine... Can I see that using the above mentioned thing. If yes can any one please tell me where can i download those because when i went to micropop.com or so I did not find any to download... Waiting for reply.. Sincerely Phani -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] IN-ADDR DNS servers
Is it possible to run a publically visible IN-ADDR.ARPA DNS server to handle a subnet of a Class C block? If so, how is it done? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] About the oe2mbx
quote who="Phani Kishore Talluri" I have followed this archive to get the downloads and install that so that I can see the .pst formated mails in my linux machine... Ah, you must have followed one of my emails in our list archive. oe2mbx doesn't actually convert .pst files, the "oe" stands for Outlook Express, not Outlook. There doesn't seem to be a .pst converter that I know of - best thing to do is upload to an IMAP server with standard backend mailstores. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "Everyone says they like Free Software - not everyone is ready to make the tough choices to make it happen." - Maciej Stachowiak, GNOME Hacker -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] usb webcams
logitech quickcams work in linux... observe at http://bong.com.au/zortcam/ drivers at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12924release_id=18002 buggy, but usable Dean Peter Hardy wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 01:51:08PM +1100, Alexander Else wrote: from doing a few searches i can see there's support for quite a few usb webcams, does anyone have any experiences with getting these going under linux? I've been using a Philips Vesta cam for a while now with the 2.4-pre, and now 2.4.0 kernels. In my experience, the driver is rock-solid, and I get better performance in Linux than Windows. I haven't tried with a 2.2 kernel, but I hear the driver works well with those kernels as well. If you don't mind using a closed-source driver (The author has entered into an NDA with Philips..), it's an excellent choice. xawtv is really designed for tuner cards and the like. I don't think it's ever actually worked for me. There are much better apps around for looking at webcam output like camstream and gspy. Cheers, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Look, Ma! I've got a new email address!) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] setting Sender in postfix
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:11:09AM +1100, Jeffrey Borg wrote: yep I'm doing that already, it's the Sender header that's the problem (and setting it in mutt like you've got above for From doesn't work). If postfix is anything like exim then you are going have to tell postfix that you are a trusted user so that it does not (re)write a sender header for you. If this is not wanted then configuring mutt to use smtp to send email out will work. thanks for the suggestions but I found the "canonical sender" setting in postfix that allows me to do what I want. Fixing it in postfix was my preferred option cos then it'll work for all MUAs (and for my chick using Eudora under NT). Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IN-ADDR DNS servers
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 04:46:40PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: Is it possible to run a publically visible IN-ADDR.ARPA DNS server to handle a subnet of a Class C block? If so, how is it done? Yes lets say you have 203.78.54.0/24 on your name server you host 54.78.203.in-addr.arpa and then you need to get whoever has the 78.203.in-addr.arpa zone to delegate the 54 to you by adding 54 IN NS yournameserver in their zone file. And this only works nicely on /24 boundaries by the way. if it's 203 space it's probably apnic and all you have todo is go to www.apnic.net and fill in the appropriate form or it might come under aunic. -- John Ferlito Senior Engineer - Bulletproof Networks ph: +61 (0) 410 519 382 http://www.bulletproof.net.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] usb webcams
quote who="Moe" anyone got info on getting 3com homeconnect to work under linux. anyone here know about this model? http://www.linux-usb.org/ Lots of info, and links to kernel modules/patches. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "Can we have a special TELSABUG category, and everything gets dropped to fix them first?" - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Setting up local user accounts on an intranet
At school am running RH 5.1 proxy. Thats no problems. I'd like to have a go at having some users have local pages available on the proxy server as an intranet. Setting up users is not a problem. I'd like it so that when a browser points to the machine's users page eg localmachine/~user their page is displayed I keep getting permission denied. Where am I going wrong Thanks Trevor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Logo Font?
On 26 Feb 2001, Craige McWhirter wrote: I need to know the font so I can generate matching images/text output. Will the vector programmes give me this? I couldn't get it out of the pdf/eps files via GIMP/gv/xfig. Should I have used another tool or have I missed something? Geez, Postscript is just text. Read it yourself! look for the 'findfont' command, like: /Courier findfont 10 scalefont setfont hope this helps. -- 8888888 Ian Tester *8)# \7\LINUX: because geeks will find a way [EMAIL PROTECTED] \7\ http://www.zipworld.com.au/~imroy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
