Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:49:34 +1000, Michael Lake wrote: This is quick. When I changed over to debian from RH my printing setup is gone. No printcap file at all. Have looked for combinatios of printcfg printconfig etc commands in bins, looked on debian doc site, and SLUG archives retured 55 matches but didnt actually show any text (must be doing something wrong there). personally, i did: % apt-get install lprng then % apt-get install apsfilter now, make sure lpr can communicate with your printer (echo hello /dev/lp0 or whatever your printer port is should do the trick). if your printer prints out garbage, that's okay. just make sure the lights flash on it or something. after you've made sure that lpr can converse with your printer (ignore the fact that the only thing you can print out at the moment is plain text ...): % apsfilterconfig check the linux printing website (http://www.linuxprinting.org/) to look up what driver your printer model needs. -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] PPP link frozen by a specific email message
Today I experienced a most frustrating problem - one message causing a ppp link to the ISP to freeze. The original messages was big (6mb) with 6 attached pictures. Broke it up and 5 went through with no problem. The 6th causes the link to freeze every time The message will start to go through and then the links stops (no ping, no nothing) only recourse is to take the link down. Has anyone seen this??? Any idea what the cause might be?? Regards, Richard. -- Richard Ames linsup.com, Sydney, Australia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.linsup.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: SLUG Membership WAS:[SLUG] JOB: Exciting Development Opportunit ies
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 01:01:52PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a feeling that I'm lapsed, simply because I haven't been to a meeting in a long time. I'd like to know how to make a payment. ditto (and getting to the meetings is nigh on impossible). Several people have asked the same questions and I haven't seen an official answer (or even an unofficial one I think). So can the committee sort out how people who can't get in to the meetings can renew (or join) please? Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Distributed SLUG Membership
quote who=Dave Fitch So can the committee sort out how people who can't get in to the meetings can renew (or join) please? Anand (with his Linux Australia hat on) has been working on getting our registrations done via their credit card processing facilities. This will be NEAT-O when it happens. [ This would have been posted out in the minutes, but Gus has gone AWOL. ] I'm hoping (due to the time it's taken already) that we will make a final decision on this at the SLUG meeting; then we can have a clicky credit cardy thing on the website. - Jeff -- Two words: Japanese technofetishism. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
Hi This is quick. When I changed over to debian from RH my printing setup is gone. No printcap file at all. Have looked for combinatios of printcfg printconfig etc commands in bins, looked on debian doc site, and SLUG archives retured 55 matches but didnt actually show any text (must be doing something wrong there). What do I apropos or man for the clue? Mike apt-get install magicfilter OR apt-get install printtool David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
On 0, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi This is quick. When I changed over to debian from RH my printing setup is gone. No printcap file at all. Have looked for combinatios of printcfg printconfig etc commands in bins, looked on debian doc site, and SLUG archives retured 55 matches but didnt actually show any text (must be doing something wrong there). What do I apropos or man for the clue? I have problem in the printing area as well. One thing I noticed about printing in the Linux community, is that not too much importance is given to it, to make it simple. The reason M$ is liked by normal users is that they can easily print any document on their system. I know I did not answer your question, but this should be a concern for Linux promoters. If they want to gain serious ground on M$ then printing from Linux (distro independent) should be made transparent or obviously simple. My .02 cents -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/subba9/ GPG public key ID 27FC9217 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
Andre Pang wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:49:34 +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
This is quick. When I changed over to debian from RH my printing setup
is gone. No printcap file at all. Have looked for combinatios of
printcfg printconfig etc commands in bins, looked on debian doc site,
and SLUG archives retured 55 matches but didnt actually show any text
(must be doing something wrong there).
personally, i did:
% apt-get install lprng
then
% apt-get install apsfilter
Done
now, make sure lpr can communicate with your printer (echo
hello /dev/lp0 or whatever your printer port is should do
the trick). if your printer prints out garbage, that's okay.
just make sure the lights flash on it or something.
Yep das blinken lights work :-)
after you've made sure that lpr can converse with your printer
(ignore the fact that the only thing you can print out at the
moment is plain text ...):
% apsfilterconfig
check the linux printing website (http://www.linuxprinting.org/)
to look up what driver your printer model needs.
Yepo, HP laserJet 1100 takes a ljet4 driver for Ghostscript.
After going thru apsfilterconfig and setting it all up with correct
settings I get a chance to print a test page :-) goody
I get some postscript errors like
Dictionary stack:
--dict:780/809-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:89/200-- --dict:16/23--
--dict:780/809--
followed by...
do {Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow
while(1)
U?
If I lpr -Plp test.ps it silently adds a job to the spool dir
/var/spool/lpd/lp with no complains but nilch comes out.
Can I apt-get install jeanie ?
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[SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
quote who=Subba Rao One thing I noticed about printing in the Linux community, is that not too much importance is given to it, to make it simple. I have often pondered this when printing questions come up on SLUG; I have no idea how to answer them, as I've only ever done 'join the dots' Samba integration stuff. A couple of answers that may apply: 1) Killing trees completely sucks, and we are sensitive new-age electricity hogs. 2) I have a network, email and the web; what the hell do I need a printer for? Just a thought. :) - Jeff -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
I think this is what CUPS is trying to acheive. (sorry, no URL). Thus spake Subba Rao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On 0, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi This is quick. When I changed over to debian from RH my printing setup is gone. No printcap file at all. Have looked for combinatios of printcfg printconfig etc commands in bins, looked on debian doc site, and SLUG archives retured 55 matches but didnt actually show any text (must be doing something wrong there). What do I apropos or man for the clue? I have problem in the printing area as well. One thing I noticed about printing in the Linux community, is that not too much importance is given to it, to make it simple. The reason M$ is liked by normal users is that they can easily print any document on their system. I know I did not answer your question, but this should be a concern for Linux promoters. If they want to gain serious ground on M$ then printing from Linux (distro independent) should be made transparent or obviously simple. -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
I use apsfilter under Debian, or atleast I did, until I dismantled my home gw. It was easy to setup. Just apt-get install apsfilter, and answer the questions. Had my HP Laserjet 6L working in no time, and then set it up to share out via samba. Cheers This is quick. When I changed over to debian from RH my printing setup is gone. No printcap file at all. Have looked for combinatios of printcfg printconfig etc commands in bins, looked on debian doc site, and SLUG archives retured 55 matches but didnt actually show any text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 05:58:03 +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
Yepo, HP laserJet 1100 takes a ljet4 driver for Ghostscript.
After going thru apsfilterconfig and setting it all up with correct
settings I get a chance to print a test page :-) goody
I get some postscript errors like
Dictionary stack:
--dict:780/809-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:89/200-- --dict:16/23--
--dict:780/809--
followed by...
do {Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow
while(1)
U?
hmm, bugger. try apt-get remove gs and apt-get install
gs-aladdin instead. (gs-aladdin is a newer version.) if you're
lucky, a newer gs will solve those problems :).
oh, to make sure that you can actually view the test page okay,
gv /usr/share/apsfilter/setup/test.ps. if that doesn't work,
then nothing will ...
(it's a nice test page when it works!)
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[SLUG] CD Labels, LaTeX Gus
A couple of questions have come up regarding CD label creation, and a few regarding LaTeX (mostly due to Gus' dastardly influence)... http://sis.fbm.vutbr.cz/~honza/cdl/ Might be a bit less masochistic. :) - Jeff -- W.O.R.K: Weekend Over, Resume the Killings. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 05:58:03AM +1000, Michael Lake uttered:
Andre Pang wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:49:34 +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
personally, i did:
% apt-get install lprng
then
% apt-get install apsfilter
Done
now, make sure lpr can communicate with your printer (echo
hello /dev/lp0 or whatever your printer port is should do
the trick). if your printer prints out garbage, that's okay.
just make sure the lights flash on it or something.
Yep das blinken lights work :-)
after you've made sure that lpr can converse with your printer
(ignore the fact that the only thing you can print out at the
moment is plain text ...):
% apsfilterconfig
check the linux printing website (http://www.linuxprinting.org/)
to look up what driver your printer model needs.
Yepo, HP laserJet 1100 takes a ljet4 driver for Ghostscript.
Good.
After going thru apsfilterconfig and setting it all up with correct
settings I get a chance to print a test page :-) goody
I get some postscript errors like
Dictionary stack:
--dict:780/809-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:89/200-- --dict:16/23--
--dict:780/809--
followed by...
do {Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow
while(1)
Ek.
I much prefer apsfilter over magicfilter, as apsfilter works, and magicfilter broke
fatally, but one thing that magicfilter does is Depend or Recommend most of the
filters you need to use. I've tried filing it as a bug against apsfilter, but the
Debian Bug reporting system doesn't like me much.
But, other than that, I'm offically out of ideas.
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Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 08:42:55PM +1000, Craige McWhirter uttered: I think this is what CUPS is trying to acheive. (sorry, no URL). Funnily enough: www.cups.org apt-get install cupsys -- Steve I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. --Me -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] One Liner Challenge!
Here's one for the one liner gladiators: I need to get the first URL found in a file or stdin. Much like urlview (man urlview for a regexp), but without all the UI guff. Think procmail... As usual, least amount of processes spawned, most minimal software used, and shortest length wins. ;) - Jeff -- chown -R us:us yourbase -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Printer problem
Alister Waller wrote: Hi, Redhat 6.2 I am using LPR to print. If I send a print job to remote printer on a PC running a LP daemon the print job goes through fine. If I try and print to the local printer attached to the server by a parallel cable 9 times out of 10 the job seems to sit in the queue until I turn the printer off and on and then it prints. This is not specific to one system, I have 3 Linux machines all having the same problem. The printers are OKI Microlines in all cases. If I move one of the printers to a pc and print remotely then it prints fine. I just need some pointers as to what could be causing this and what to look for or change etc. This is a common problem with windoze as well. It is occasionally caused by an incompatibility between the machine settings and the printer. eg. the machine set for a4 and the printer expecting letter. However, the most common cause of this problem is the parallel cable. Some printer cables are designed to be bidirectional and some are not. Try using a new parrallel printer cable. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] monkeys broke my apt?
This one time, at band camp, Geoffrey Robertson said: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-4_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/idl/name-service.idl', which is also in package libgnorba27 dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-4_all.deb and then continue with the apt-get -f install -- jamesw Always two there are; a Bastard, and a PFY. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Slug membership
At $2 per month I consider SLUG excellent value. For those non-members cough up! KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Remote Service checker for linux
Hi Guys, We've developed a need at work for a package that can check a whole bunch of servers and see which services are up and running (not to mention checking if our dns (telstra) is up or not. Does anyone currently use anything on linux like this? I know we could write one however it would be preferable if there is something already written (why re-invent the wheel) that will do the job for us. It would be preferable if it had a web front end (so cgi or php or something). Does anyone know of anything that might suit? I've already googled as well as checking a few other search sites. Haven't come up with anything that close.. Cheers, Paul The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. -- anon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Remote Service checker for linux
quote who=Paul Robinson We've developed a need at work for a package that can check a whole bunch of servers and see which services are up and running (not to mention checking if our dns (telstra) is up or not. Not quite the standard watchdog style solution, but how about nmap? Gotta have a left field answer now and then. :) - Jeff -- A rest with a fermata is the moral opposite of the fast food restaurant with express lane. - James Gleick, Faster -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:00:39PM +1000, David Kempe uttered: Funnily enough: www.cups.org apt-get install cupsys cups is nice. get it. its works nicely and has way more sexy features than the others... dead easy to do useful things as well... No. :-) Been there, done that. It's web-based frontend is sexy, but the way it handles printers is brain dead, and if you don't have a HP, they want you to pay for the drivers. I'm more than happy with lprng and apsfilter. And, when i used it, it refused to print graphics. At all. Dave -- Steve I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. --Me -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] One Liner Challenge!
Jeff Waugh wrote: Here's one for the one liner gladiators: I need to get the first URL found in a file or stdin. Much like urlview (man urlview for a regexp), but without all the UI guff. Think procmail... As usual, least amount of processes spawned, most minimal software used, and shortest length wins. ;) Here's a try using lynx's parser: cat index.html | lynx -stdin -dump | grep ^References -A 2 | tail -1 | perl -lne '$_=~/\d+\. (.+)/; print $1;' It does run perl (I don't know awk) and lynx, which are both pretty heavy but it does the job. Regards, Sonam - Jeff -- chown -R us:us yourbase -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Electronic Commerce Corporate Express Australia Ltd. Phone: +61-2-9335-0725 Fax: +61-2-9335-0753 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IP and MAC addresses
# more /proc/net/arp Jon - Original Message - From: marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: [SLUG] IP and MAC addresses hi guys i am seeing some traffic on a network with some spoofed IPs... i am able to filter out the packets at the next router so they aren't doing anything bad, but i want to track down who is generating them... i have found IPtraf which is a nice little tool, but i need something that is better at linking IP traffic with the MAC address of the sender... any ideas? later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
Been there, done that. It's web-based frontend is sexy, but the way it handles printers is brain dead, and if you don't have a HP, they want you to pay for the drivers. I'm more than happy with lprng and apsfilter. And, when i used it, it refused to print graphics. At all. http://cups.sourceforge.net/cups-drivers.html we use it quite successfully on a number of printers Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Slug membership
At $2 per month I consider SLUG excellent value. For those non-members cough up! Alright already! what about these things like a Pay Pal account? Does that work for $AUD? Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Remote Service checker for linux
Hi Guys, We've developed a need at work for a package that can check a whole bunch of servers and see which services are up and running (not to mention checking if our dns (telstra) is up or not. Does anyone currently use anything on linux like this? I know we could write one however it would be preferable if there is something already written (why re-invent the wheel) that will do the job for us. It would be preferable if it had a web front end (so cgi or php or something). Netsaint with webmin's netsaint module does exactly that. netsaint.sourceforge.net i think. webmin is at www.webmin.com/webmin Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Remote Service checker for linux
Paul Robinson wrote:
wheel) that will do the job for us. It would be preferable if it had a web
front end (so cgi or php or something).
Cheops - can test various services on any box.
Not a web front end, but has colour coded responses when used in the
list format. I've used it for both internal and external services.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
2) I have a network, email and the web; what the hell do I need a printer for? So you can give dead trees with bits of carbon on it to management types to make them feel secure. :) //umar. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] CD Labels, LaTeX Gus
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: A couple of questions have come up regarding CD label creation, and a few regarding LaTeX (mostly due to Gus' dastardly influence)... http://sis.fbm.vutbr.cz/~honza/cdl/ Might be a bit less masochistic. :) - Jeff . still doesn't make the round picture with a hole in the middle. N -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RH70 Problems Keyboard
Hello Folks
I've just in the process of rebuilding the linux server (nfs, samba,
netware?) with a new install of RH70 and a few quirks have poped up.
Suddenly startx is complaining that there is No Keyboard in
XF86Config. There is, but I'm curious as to why it isn't seeing it.
It was working okay, but yes, I did do something, but not to the
keyboard section. The monitor (LG 995E) has been occacssionally
complaining about signal problems (screen settings that it can not
support), so I thought I would just comment out all the modelines and
resolutions that I don't use and do not want it to use. This is
everything below 640x480 and above 1024x768. Once that was done it
started complaining about the keyboard. I put the old one back and it is
still complaining. Shrug! Any ideas? the card is a Matrox Millenium, if
that matters.
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Re: [SLUG] Remote Service checker for linux
Big Brother is worth having a look at http://bb4.com/ regards Michael Paul Robinson wrote: Hi Guys, We've developed a need at work for a package that can check a whole bunch of servers and see which services are up and running (not to mention checking if our dns (telstra) is up or not. Does anyone currently use anything on linux like this? I know we could write one however it would be preferable if there is something already written (why re-invent the wheel) that will do the job for us. It would be preferable if it had a web front end (so cgi or php or something). Does anyone know of anything that might suit? I've already googled as well as checking a few other search sites. Haven't come up with anything that close.. Cheers, Paul The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. -- anon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Michael De Santis[EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems AdministratorHarvestroad Limited http://www.harvestroad.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Slug membership
quote who=David Kempe Alright already! what about these things like a Pay Pal account? Does that work for $AUD? Mon Apr 23 18:18:01 2001... http://slug.org.au/lists/archives/slug/2001/April/msg00666.html - Jeff -- Web development with PHP is like injecting pure rust with a high-pressure hose. For pain relief. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] (fwd) Coder by day, love machine by night
Exerpt from iTnewsWire Tuesday, 24 April 2001, Morning Coder by day, love machine by night A survey done by IT job site JustTechJobs.com says adult male tech types have sex 37 percent more often than folks in other careers. http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=6289 So.. Rusty was right after all! Kernel hackers ARE Sexy! --- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
I guess it's OK for you office/IT types to trash your printers but out here in the land of chalkdust and sloooww internet connections and one computer per 25 students most of my work is in preparing document-type resources for students. Again if you look at domestic PC use, after games, chat, Hotmail(!) and inet browsing the things are used for document preparation - Johnnie's Assignment, lists, garage sale announcements, banners, birthday cards and every other template that Corel or MS have created! Applications that don't talk simply, without command line interference to my printer are just not good enough. Laurie Savage earth science @ orange high school == Many say it was a mistake to come down from the trees, some say the move out of the oceans was a bad idea. Me, I say the stiffening of the notochord in the Cambrian was where it all went wrong, it was all downhill from there. - The Dean, University of Ediacara www.ediacara.org == -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (fwd) Coder by day, love machine by night
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:18:41AM +1000, Anthony Rumble ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Exerpt from iTnewsWire Tuesday, 24 April 2001, Morning Coder by day, love machine by night A survey done by IT job site JustTechJobs.com says adult male tech types have sex 37 percent more often than folks in other careers. http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=6289 *UNIX *IS* Sexy: who -- grep -i blonde -- date;cd ~;unzip;touch;strip;finger;mount;gasp;yes;uptime;umount;sleep -- People without trees are like fish without clean water! |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (fwd) Coder by day, love machine by night
Na sorry just a reflection of the fact that most geeks are younger and still have it on their minds all the time. Any way, geeks get used to fscking computer systems all day, so it's just an extention of their day job. On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Anthony Rumble wrote: Exerpt from iTnewsWire Tuesday, 24 April 2001, Morning Coder by day, love machine by night A survey done by IT job site JustTechJobs.com says adult male tech types have sex 37 percent more often than folks in other careers. http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=6289 So.. Rusty was right after all! Kernel hackers ARE Sexy! --- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Gossip - Schools Debian Blind Re: [SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
.
I guess it's OK for you office/IT types to trash your printers but o
good start
Again if you look at domestic PC use,
yep, we are with you...
template that Corel or MS have created!
Lousy finish.
Apart from the hole in the middle of the CD rom {:-), linux does it all.
Actually, WP (on that other OS) had a text thing that would postion text
along a line - does it have it in the linux version?
earth science @ orange high school
Gossip from Maclug on the weekend
1 - Richmond High school has been using linux for 5 years - can anyon
confirm?
2 - Someone ran into blind young person they knew from Commodore Club
days - What OS are you using? debian says blind person and he now off
at uni studying. The bloke decided it was time to start learning about
linux.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
I second Laurie's point. I guess most of the folks who jump on to the Linux bandwagon are only going with the hype in the media. It is not enough to create a server class operating system. Especially, when it come to dealing with documents. Even OS/2 (does it exist) made printing simple. End users (who are not techies) that I have talked to are begining to ask questions about Linux. My only selling point is that it is a server class OS. These are the people who would print tons of documents. Most of the computer users print documents and are not techies. Unless Linux makes it easy to print documents, it will not make much headway onto desktop environment. -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/subba9/ GPG public key ID 27FC9217 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
Totally agree... here I am still using my Mac for printing related applications every day because I have no choice... too many things don't work easily enough on Linux for me, much less the kids and family. Geeks tend to forget there are people out there who are mere mortals, and don't even know what a CLI is (nor should they need to!). Why is that if i plug a printer.. pretty much any printer.. into my mac, double click the install icon and ask it to print it will work. Can any geek tell me why that is a bad idea? Is there some special priviledge given to geeks because they spend an hour configuring drivers and interfaces? I'm not knocking linux... god knows, what it does well it does better than anything. Just I think some geeks need a reality check. On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Laurie Savage wrote: I guess it's OK for you office/IT types to trash your printers but out here in the land of chalkdust and sloooww internet connections and one computer per 25 students most of my work is in preparing document-type resources for students. Again if you look at domestic PC use, after games, chat, Hotmail(!) and inet browsing the things are used for document preparation - Johnnie's Assignment, lists, garage sale announcements, banners, birthday cards and every other template that Corel or MS have created! Applications that don't talk simply, without command line interference to my printer are just not good enough. Laurie Savage earth science @ orange high school == Many say it was a mistake to come down from the trees, some say the move out of the oceans was a bad idea. Me, I say the stiffening of the notochord in the Cambrian was where it all went wrong, it was all downhill from there. - The Dean, University of Ediacara www.ediacara.org == -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (fwd) Coder by day, love machine by night
quote who=David Na sorry just a reflection of the fact that most geeks are younger and still have it on their minds all the time. What a horrible misinterpretation of the great range of geeks around - even here on the SLUG list! You obviously haven't been regaled by the traditional, but in MY day... stories at dinner after SLUG meetings. Finding the average age for the group would still be interesting, however. - Jeff -- I used the word 'infrastructure' when describing her cooking style... and she didn't speak to me for a week. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] (fwd) Coder by day, love machine by night
I would have to assume that this figure is high because it includes Cyber sex ;) I wonder what the percentage would be if that was not taken into account alister -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony Rumble Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] (fwd) Coder by day, love machine by night Exerpt from iTnewsWire Tuesday, 24 April 2001, Morning Coder by day, love machine by night A survey done by IT job site JustTechJobs.com says adult male tech types have sex 37 percent more often than folks in other careers. http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=6289 So.. Rusty was right after all! Kernel hackers ARE Sexy! --- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RH70 Problems Keyboard
Terry Collins wrote:
Suddenly startx is complaining that there is No Keyboard in
XF86Config. There is, but I'm curious as to why it isn't seeing it.
Problem solved - somewhere after pumpkin hour I had vi'd XF86Config in
/etc, which created an empty /etc/XF86Config. X was looking at this
rather than /etc/X11/XF86Config, where the real stuff is.
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Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
Thanks guys for the suggestions. I tried the lprng route first. Looks
like it's working now in that I can print emails and print ps files sent
to the printer. Some prob in the apsfilterconfig test.ps though. Info
below.
Andre Pang wrote:
hmm, bugger. try apt-get remove gs and apt-get install
gs-aladdin instead. (gs-aladdin is a newer version.) if you're
lucky, a newer gs will solve those problems :).
OK decided to try that. I apt-get removed gs and installed instead
gs-aladdin, then
re put on gv.
oh, to make sure that you can actually view the test page okay,
gv /usr/share/apsfilter/setup/test.ps. if that doesn't work,
then nothing will ...
Good point. gv shows any ps or pdf file created by me with LaTeX fine
but barfs on the test.ps supplied by apsfilterconfig. If I try to cat my
own test.ps file to the printer via gs it crshes with a stack error. The
apsfilterconfig still gives the same error below when trying to do the
test page.
Anyhow ignoring the failed test I just did lpr -Plp myTest.ps and out
poppped those hellos' I had echoed to the printer followed by my own
test page quite fine so its working.
Thanks for the help all :-) *
(it's a nice test page when it works!)
Yeah I think thats the one one with the tiger on it?
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 05:58:03 +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
Yepo, HP laserJet 1100 takes a ljet4 driver for Ghostscript.
After going thru apsfilterconfig and setting it all up with correct
settings I get a chance to print a test page :-) goody
I get some postscript errors like
Dictionary stack:
--dict:780/809-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:89/200-- --dict:16/23--
--dict:780/809--
followed by...
do {Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow in
Unrecoverable error: Unrecoverable error: execstackoverflow
while(1)
U?
Mike
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[SLUG] RH7.1 install suggestions
All, Anybody having any suggestions regarding installing RH7.1? I just got hold of the complete CD set and want to upgrade my systems on Wednesday. Currently I am using 6.2 (have all latest fixes) and I want to upgrade to 7.1. What do I need to be aware of? Any drawbacks? The install guide says that the new kernel is more aggressive regarding swap space, whats a good value? The last time I did an upgrade (from 5.x to 6.1) the installer had its own understanding of what should be in /etc/rc.d/init.d and overwrote a lot of my scripts (saving the old ones with *.rpmsave), is it still doing this??? 2 of the machines are firewalls, how good is the firewall config util? Anybody tested it? (I use my own shell scripts in init.d to set it up) On another note: Has anyone tried Partition Magic 5.01 with Linux partitions? OK to use?? Other options??? jobst PS: Dont start a distro war, please. I made a decision to use RH a few years back and I stick with that. -- 186,262 miles/second : Not just a good idea, it's the LAW. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Project Management software
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:34:56PM +1000, Des Devlin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Runs under Zope. Not sure how close it is to prime time though: http://bits.netizen.com.au/Xen/ I had a look at that and because somebody said it looks like a dead project I wrote to one of the developers. Here is his reply | Xen was being developed by Netizen. Since Netizen is now no longer (VA Linux | bought up it's assetts but kept none of the employees), Xen is no longer being | developed. | | I would however be interested in persuing the development of Xen or a Xen-like | system although my current employer isn't interested in this. | | If you have any questions about the system, I can do my best to answer them. | I haven't looked at the code for a long time though. | | Yours, | Benno. This doesnt look good. jobst -- You win some, you loose some. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Project Management software
quote who=Jobst Schmalenbach I had a look at that and because somebody said it looks like a dead project I wrote to one of the developers. Here is his reply This doesnt look good. Skud was one of the main hackers on Xen too; perhaps esmith would be interested in shipping something like this with their intranet boxes. I think she's a little busy at the moment with Reefknot and other stuff though, but it's certainly worth a pitch. :) Built with Zope, so supposedly it's rapidly developable blibble schplah. - Jeff -- Markets are what you sell bubbly health drinks, flourescent blow up furniture and mobile phone ring melodies to. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Geeks Printing
I agree absolutely. One of my biggest problems is configuring /etc/printcap remotely. As a config file /etc/printcap is a bloody disaster. So, use printtool I hear you say; but I don't run X over the Internet for security and performance reasons. When is someone going to come up with a simple ncurses equivalent of printtool? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com ...well, it worked before _you_ touched it! On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Subba Rao wrote: I second Laurie's point. I guess most of the folks who jump on to the Linux bandwagon are only going with the hype in the media. It is not enough to create a server class operating system. Especially, when it come to dealing with documents. Even OS/2 (does it exist) made printing simple. End users (who are not techies) that I have talked to are begining to ask questions about Linux. My only selling point is that it is a server class OS. These are the people who would print tons of documents. Most of the computer users print documents and are not techies. Unless Linux makes it easy to print documents, it will not make much headway onto desktop environment. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Project Management software
That's a bummer. Have to admit it was early last year when I was looking at it. There's this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/midnightxen/ Registered: 2000-11-30 12:03 Midnight Xen is a project to finish the Xen project manager for zope. We also intend to implement Gantt and Pert Chart features. The first priority is to make a build that works right on improt into Zope and then re-initiate the security later. But, yeah: Activity Percentile: 0% Is not looking good. dd Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:34:56PM +1000, Des Devlin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Runs under Zope. Not sure how close it is to prime time though: http://bits.netizen.com.au/Xen/ I had a look at that and because somebody said it looks like a dead project I wrote to one of the developers. Here is his reply | Xen was being developed by Netizen. Since Netizen is now no longer (VA Linux | bought up it's assetts but kept none of the employees), Xen is no longer being | developed. | | I would however be interested in persuing the development of Xen or a Xen-like | system although my current employer isn't interested in this. | | If you have any questions about the system, I can do my best to answer them. | I haven't looked at the code for a long time though. | | Yours, | Benno. This doesnt look good. jobst -- You win some, you loose some. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Des Devlin smh.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RH7.1 install suggestions
Partition magics fine. Just don't have a power failure like i did. On another note: Has anyone tried Partition Magic 5.01 with Linux partitions? OK to use?? Other options??? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Project Management software
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:44:33PM +1000, Jeff Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: quote who=Jobst Schmalenbach Skud was one of the main hackers on Xen too; perhaps esmith would be interested in shipping something like this with their intranet boxes. Is that www.esmith.com? jhs -- Dont blink or you miss it! |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Project Management software
quote who=Jobst Schmalenbach Is that www.esmith.com? For you sir, http://www.e-smith.org/ [ Yes, the .com is them too. ;) ] - Jeff -- No clue is good clue. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to get printing setup under Debian
Funnily enough: www.cups.org apt-get install cupsys cups is nice. get it. its works nicely and has way more sexy features than the others... dead easy to do useful things as well... Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] IP and MAC addresses
hi guys i am seeing some traffic on a network with some spoofed IPs... i am able to filter out the packets at the next router so they aren't doing anything bad, but i want to track down who is generating them... i have found IPtraf which is a nice little tool, but i need something that is better at linking IP traffic with the MAC address of the sender... any ideas? later marty I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me. - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
