[SLUG] ask tool

2002-03-06 Thread henry



Dear List :

  I need 
to 
addblank to eachstring from a file
so that 
theyare of the same length .
,then 
locate them on screen as I like. 
  It seems thatPerl 
has no concept of file-coordinates(row,colum),align.
 if I use Perl to do with it,
 It takestimeto count number of blanks in 
shell-processing
  and
 it waste effortsforprogramming(program 
then throw it).

 
It may not be Perl's speciality to do thing as above.
 Am I right?
 If so ,could someone promote a good tool?


BestRegards
Henry


[SLUG] Capturing keyboard values

2002-03-06 Thread Kevin Saenz

Hi all,

I have one of those HP internet Keyboards with the extra buttons,
for volume control, launching webbrowsers, and the like. Can anyone
tell me how I can capture the values of those buttons so that I can
use them under X?

TIA

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Re: [SLUG] Capturing keyboard values

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Kevin Saenz

 I have one of those HP internet Keyboards with the extra buttons, for
 volume control, launching webbrowsers, and the like. Can anyone tell me
 how I can capture the values of those buttons so that I can use them under
 X?

xev(1)

If you use Sawfish and X 4.x, you can make your keyboard do lots of cool
stuff by assigning actions to them, etc.

(Plus, if you install the XMMS sawfish and rep bindings - apt-get install
sawfish-xmms - you can control it from the multimedia keys too.)

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Re: [SLUG] Re: slug digest, Vol 1 #1612 - 18 msgs

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Kevin Saenz

 I had to install the X11R6 contrib for mandrake. Now that I have captured
 the Keycodes where do I input the values to activate them?

Not sure. Thus the sawfish recommendation, as it includes all of these for
you. eg. XF86Search for the search button, XF86AudioPlay for the play
button, etc.

If you don't use Sawfish, go with Andre's option.

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[SLUG] Disable

2002-03-06 Thread D. Babbage

Being a complete newbie I installed Red Hat 7.2 and tried to set up my
machine to be a server (just for an office intranet - file and print
serving - like an NT server). Now on bootup it sits for a long time on
loading sendmail (about 2 mins) before continuing. How do I disable this
function? What settings do I need for using the machine as a server (as
described above)?
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Re: [SLUG] Disable

2002-03-06 Thread Stephan Borg

Hello Don,

If you wish to disable it, login as root and at a command prompt type:

chkconfig --levels 2345 sendmail off

OTOH, I have had a similiar problem, and I found that I had a static IP
address, but no /etc/hosts entry pointing back to myself. Use your
favorite editor to edit /etc/hosts and confirm there is a line for your
server:

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
192.168.x.x myserver.mydomain.com   myserver

The first line should always be there, modify the second line to your
needs.

The other time I had a similiar problem was due to a NIC driver not
loading properly. If you can ping other servers, then that's not your
problem.

Regards,
Stephan


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[SLUG] DOS

2002-03-06 Thread D. Babbage


This is REALLY basic but how do I get a DOS prompt? (From KDE desktop)
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Re: [SLUG] DOS

2002-03-06 Thread Howard Lowndes

Call an xterm shell from the Panel.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, D. Babbage wrote:


 This is REALLY basic but how do I get a DOS prompt? (From KDE desktop)
 Don


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Re: [SLUG] DOS

2002-03-06 Thread David Kempe

Well that would get you a linux (probably bash) prompt at least.
For a dos prompt you will have to download and install freedos and dosemu.
:-)

that is unless you have been really keen with Cygwin and got KDE running on
windows :)


dave


 Call an xterm shell from the Panel.

 On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, D. Babbage wrote:

 
  This is REALLY basic but how do I get a DOS prompt? (From KDE desktop)
  Don
 


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[SLUG] linux help

2002-03-06 Thread Vladimir VRA09 Rakic

hi,

is this the correct e-mail address for linux help, and if not, i'd
appreciate the correct one .

Thanks,

Vladimir


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[SLUG] Firewire???

2002-03-06 Thread Lyle Chapman

Anybody know of a distribution that supports firewire out of the box.
(No stuffing around with rebuilding kernels and inserting new mods)

Any help would be extremely appreciated.

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[SLUG] Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-06 Thread Angus Lees

On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 11:59:47AM +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 A little trick I find useful is using the cache search functionality:
 apt-cache search cups

please note that apt-get/apt-cache are no substitute for a real
user-friendly apt frontend.

if you don't like dselect (and thats understandable), you could try
deity-curses, deity-gtk or aptitude.

these allow searching, browsing, prompt you for package recommends and
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Re: [SLUG] Firewire???

2002-03-06 Thread Kevin Saenz

I would be under the impression that most distros would as long as you have
the latest kernel release.
The distro should see the device and add it in as a module.



 Anybody know of a distribution that supports firewire out of the box.
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Re: [SLUG] Firewire???

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Booth

Probably go with something like Mandrake if you are after eas(ier) setup.

Mandrake 8.2 is about to come out, it is in Beta 4 release at present.

Even v8.0 features state
... can detect and automatically configure many of the most recent hardware devices. 
Kernel 2.4.3 provides enhanced support for USB, Infrared and FireWire devices,  ...
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/mainfeatures8.0.php , 20572 bytes

Mandrake has kudzu and hardrake for hardware detection, and configuration.

Chris

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[SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Christopher Booth

 Probably go with something like Mandrake if you are after eas(ier) setup.
 
 Mandrake 8.2 is about to come out, it is in Beta 4 release at present.

When's about? I'm going to push very hard for Mandrake to be the 'default
recommended' install option for new users at the Linux Workshop.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-06 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Angus Lees wrote:
if you don't like dselect (and thats understandable), you could try
deity-curses, deity-gtk or aptitude.

Aptitude comes highly recommended by a while bunch of top Debian
maintainers, who were really wrapped with the other day.

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Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Booth

It seems very imminent, no release date mentioned on their site

http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1959lang=en

Some people are requesting delaying the release till Gnome 2.0 and KDE 3.0 come out 
but I don't think they will hold off on that.

Chris

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  Probably go with something like Mandrake if you are after eas(ier)
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[SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi slugs,
excuse me if this is obvious to some.

If I edit inetd.conf is there a way to re-run inetd.conf with the new
settings without restarting the computer?

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Re: [SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Peter Hardy

  # killall -HUP inetd
 
 Or (and I think this only works under Linux..)
 # telinit q

That's inittab, dude.

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RE: [SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread Low Christopher - clow

Ben,

The way I would do it is
# ps -ef | grep inet

Once you get the PID then 
# kill -HUP inetd pid

Hope this helps

Chris

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Hi slugs,
excuse me if this is obvious to some.

If I edit inetd.conf is there a way to re-run inetd.conf with the new
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[SLUG] removing linux

2002-03-06 Thread Vladimir VRA09 Rakic

Hello all,

First of all, I apologize for the disclaimer, it comes up with Qantas
e-mails automatically.

Here's my problem.

Many moons ago, i have installed Linux Mandrake on my laptop - as an
experiment.  This was about 6 months ago.  I haven't used the system much
and have forgotten the userid and password.  On top of that, i got rid of
the manuals and now i need to remove Linux from the laptop and re-format
the hdd, so that Win98 will fit on it again.

Is it as simple as sticking a DOS disk in fdd and re-formatting the hdd or
it's more involved then that ?

Thanks for your help,

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Re: [SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy wrote:
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 13:07, Michael Lake wrote:
 Ben Donohue wrote:
  Hi slugs,
  excuse me if this is obvious to some.
  If I edit inetd.conf is there a way to re-run inetd.conf with the new
  settings without restarting the computer?
 
 # killall -HUP inetd

Or (and I think this only works under Linux..)
# telinit q

You're thinking of init, not inetd.

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Re: [SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread Stuart Cooper


although this trick doesn't seem to work with the RedHat xinetd (g)

in general for other services
/etc/init.d/SERVICE stop
/etc/init.d/SERVICE start
where SERVICE is a background service like inetd, apache, nfs, smb etc.

might be a different pathname on some flavours of Linux, but good to know.

Stuart.



   
 
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# killall -HUP inetd


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Re: [SLUG] removing linux

2002-03-06 Thread Graeme Robinson

On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Vladimir VRA09 Rakic wrote:
 Is it as simple as sticking a DOS disk in fdd and re-formatting the hdd or
 it's more involved then that ?

Sorry to hear you are reinstalling win98 - you'll be back!
Anyway, nothing special is required unless there is data on the disk you 
need to extract - then you should boot in single user mode (not sure of 
what this is in Mandrake - hit the tab key at the lilo prompt to find out 
- probably 
linux single
) which will allow you to change the password of the root user.

If there's nothing on the disk though it's just a matter of installing 
windows as if the disk was blank - ie install the windows install cdrom 
and boot using it.  It will delete the exisiting partititons and install 
it's dreadful stuff ...


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Re: [SLUG] removing linux

2002-03-06 Thread Michael Lake

Vladimir VRA09 Rakic wrote:
 First of all, I apologize for the disclaimer, it comes up with Qantas

I have the same problem :-(

 Is it as simple as sticking a DOS disk in fdd and re-formatting the hdd or
 it's more involved then that ?

Pretty much so. One uses the DOS program fdisk to delete the Linux
partitions off the hard disk and to recreate one big one for Windows
again. Then use the DOS format command to actually format that new
partition for Windows. 

But can we stop you doing this? Think carefully, a whole new world of
Linux is emerging. Do you want to be a part of it? It's exiting, it's
fun and it's a revolution :-)

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Re: [SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Booth

/etc/rc.d/init.d/*network restart 

:D

Chris


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Stuart Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 although this trick doesn't seem to work with the RedHat xinetd (g)
 
 in general for other services
 /etc/init.d/SERVICE stop
 /etc/init.d/SERVICE start
 where SERVICE is a background service like inetd, apache, nfs, smb etc.
 
 might be a different pathname on some flavours of Linux, but good to
 know.
 
 Stuart.
 
 
 
  
 
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[SLUG] news server for use at UTS

2002-03-06 Thread Mike Lake

Hi all,

The news server here at the Uni of Technology, Sydney no longer seems to be
operational (news.uts.edu.au). I have not been able to find out why or who 
looks after it so I am looking for another source of news for comp.text.tex 
(no not alt.bins). I tried news.unsw.edu.au and it told me that it wasn't
going to talk to me but at least it said hello unlike the one here at uts.
The news server at Syd Uni only has one newsgroup for societies. Google
shows lots of servers but I wanted to use one in Australia and pref from a
uni as uts would pay less. Anyone use one regularly and know one that is up?
I dont want a web based one, they suck :-)

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[SLUG] Help on Smoothwall

2002-03-06 Thread Phillipus








Is there anybody using smoothwall for optus cable
connection?

How they connect it if I want to
have 3 NIC installed?

1st NIC for the LAN

2nd NIC for the DMZ

3rd NIC for the optus



Thats how the smoothwall capture my NICs. I
only set the 3rd NIC to request DHCP only.



Since I know, the cable connection
should be in the 1st NIC

But anyhow, it might be different
using smoothwall.



Anyone could help?








[SLUG] the computer error (was: need donation processor)

2002-03-06 Thread Phillipus








Something
funny here



Last time I found out that my fan
on the processor is broken.

Now, I try to plug the metal on
the processor back and put my desk fan into the computer.



I put my redhat
cd and try to boot from it.

Its funny that found, I can see
the help of the cd (press f1 until f5)



But, after I press enter to
continue the installation, its hang, just stop at



Loading initrd.img



Then its
never continue beyond that.

Anybody might know whats wrong?



Thanks.










Re: [SLUG] restarting after editing inetd.conf

2002-03-06 Thread David



From RH7.1:

[root@ns init.d]# pwd
/etc/init.d
[root@ns init.d]# head xinetd
#!/bin/bash
#
# xinetdThis starts and stops xinetd.
#

I think you will find that 

/etc/init.d/xinetd restart

will do the job for you, but I could be wrong. The old version was
/etc/rc.d/init.d/inet restart

David.


On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Christopher Booth wrote:

 /etc/rc.d/init.d/*network restart 
 
 :D
 
 Chris
 
 
 On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:17:06 +1100 
 Stuart Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  although this trick doesn't seem to work with the RedHat xinetd (g)
  
  in general for other services
  /etc/init.d/SERVICE stop
  /etc/init.d/SERVICE start
  where SERVICE is a background service like inetd, apache, nfs, smb etc.
  
  might be a different pathname on some flavours of Linux, but good to
  know.
  
  Stuart.
  
  
  
   
  
  Michael Lake
  
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  .edu.au cc:
  
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  restarting after editing inetd.conf
  slug-admin@slu
  
  g.org.au
  
   
  
   
  
  07/03/2002
  
  01:07 PM
  
  Please respond
  
  to Michael
  
  Lake
  
   
  
   
  
  
  
  
  Ben Donohue wrote:
   Hi slugs,
   excuse me if this is obvious to some.
   If I edit inetd.conf is there a way to re-run inetd.conf with the new
   settings without restarting the computer?
  
  # killall -HUP inetd
  
  
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[SLUG] The computer error (was: need donation processor)

2002-03-06 Thread Phillipus








Something
funny here



Last time I found out that my fan
on the processor is broken.

Now, I try to plug the metal on
the processor back and put my desk fan into the computer.



I put my redhat cd and try to
boot from it.

Its funny that found, I can see
the help of the cd (press f1 until f5)



But, after I press enter to
continue the installation, its hang, just stop at



Loading initrd.img



Then its never continue
beyond that.

Anybody might know whats wrong?



Thanks.










Re: [SLUG] news server for use at UTS

2002-03-06 Thread Glen Turner

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Mike Lake wrote:
 The news server here at the Uni of Technology, Sydney no longer seems to be
 operational (news.uts.edu.au). I have not been able to find out why or who 
 looks after it so I am looking for another source of news for comp.text.tex 
 (no not alt.bins). I tried news.unsw.edu.au and it told me that it wasn't
 going to talk to me but at least it said hello unlike the one here at uts.
 The news server at Syd Uni only has one newsgroup for societies. Google
 shows lots of servers but I wanted to use one in Australia and pref from a
 uni as uts would pay less. Anyone use one regularly and know one that is up?
 I dont want a web based one, they suck :-)

Hi Mike,

All computers on the Australian Academic and Research Network (which
includes UTS) can use the Optus news server at news.optus.net.au.  This
has about 35,000 newgroups.  Let me know if comp.text.tex is not amoung 
them.

I'm not in a position to know if UTS have removed their USENET service or
if it is simply down.  Most university IT sections regard USENET as poor
value as the volume is massive and the readership low. [1]

Arranging direct access to the Optus news server from machines on AARNet
seemed a nice way of still giving people access to USENET without
downloading unread gigabytes per day.  We will pay a higher price for the
read megabytes, but will still be substantially financially better off.

But as I wrote above, I'm not sure that the USENET service at UTS has been
deliberately removed or simply has operatonal problems.  Either way, 
you're welcome and encouraged to use news.optus.net.au.

Regards,
Glen

[1] Normal ISPs love USENET.  They pay to get the traffic in once, and 
then get revenue sending out multiple copies.  The more images
the better :-)  Because AARNet is owned solely by its users we
are much more concerned about the value-for-money of those
gigabytes.

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[SLUG] mac icons

2002-03-06 Thread Paul Younis

Hi all.
I just did a serch on google to find something to view or convert mac
icons into a png or a .gif. Dose any one know of a piece of software
that dose this.

Thanks Phro



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Re: [SLUG] Was: Family mail server. Is now: Dons asbestos suit

2002-03-06 Thread Heracles

On Sunday 03 March 2002 16:08, Kerry Seibold wrote:
 Craige,
 It seems to me to be desirable to have your mail easily read by as many
 different MUAs as possible.
 Like I said if I can't read them first up I bin them.
 My guess is that there are an awful lot of Outlook Expresses out there.

 Flame me if you like but I've got Linux servers and MS on the desktop.

Not a flame, but why Windows on the desktop? I find my Linux desktop 
(enlightenment) much more pleasent to look at and very much easier to use. 

Stay well and happy
Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-06 Thread Heracles

On Thursday 07 March 2002 11:58, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Christopher Booth

  Probably go with something like Mandrake if you are after eas(ier) setup.
 
  Mandrake 8.2 is about to come out, it is in Beta 4 release at present.

 When's about? I'm going to push very hard for Mandrake to be the 'default
 recommended' install option for new users at the Linux Workshop.

Don't do that. It's too east to install ;-)
Make 'em suffer like we had to - give 'em Debian!

Stay well and happy
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[SLUG] PDF creation in Linux

2002-03-06 Thread Peter Rundle

Sluggers,

Does anyone have a neat / cool way to make PDF's? I've had a bit of a 
google around and found
doc2pdf but seems she's a M$ binary.

I'd basically like to create a print queue that outputs a PDF file,
or alternatively an e-mail address that converts the attached file to 
PDF. (al la doc2pdf)

I know that PDF is some kind of corruption of post script and vaguely 
remember someone on this
list mentioning how to do this kind of things

TIA's

Pete


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Re: [SLUG] PDF creation in Linux

2002-03-06 Thread Graeme Robinson

On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Peter Rundle wrote:

 Sluggers,
 
 Does anyone have a neat / cool way to make PDF's? 

Here is a howto for doing just this on an SME (e-smith) server. It may
help you set up the queue on a different distro too - certainly gives some
pointers on where to start.

http://e-smith.saxdalen.com/howto/How_to_install_PDF_over_LAN.html


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