[SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Kevin Saenz
Can anyone tell me what is a good time client/server I could install
so that I can synchonise time across all my machines?

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Kevin Saenz

 Can anyone tell me what is a good time client/server I could install so
 that I can synchonise time across all my machines?

The one, the only, ntp! It's the real deal, ie. it's what most of the real
time servers run, and you can run it too! (Isn't it cool that you can run
enterprise or infrastructure level standards software on your own machine?
Ah, the wonders of Free Software.)

  http://slug.org.au/sydney.html (see the bottom box)

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 19:01, Kevin Saenz wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what is a good time client/server I could install
 so that I can synchonise time across all my machines?

ntpd.

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh

   http://slug.org.au/sydney.html (see the bottom box)

Oh no! It links to a 404. D'oh!

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh

 quote who=Jeff Waugh
 
http://slug.org.au/sydney.html (see the bottom box)
 
 Oh no! It links to a 404. D'oh!

Fixed now, thanks to Conrad for pointing out the correct URL.

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Kevin Saenz
Um I think this link is dead
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock1a.htm

 quote who=Jeff Waugh
 
  quote who=Jeff Waugh
  
 http://slug.org.au/sydney.html (see the bottom box)
  
  Oh no! It links to a 404. D'oh!
 
 Fixed now, thanks to Conrad for pointing out the correct URL.
 
 - Jeff
 
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[SLUG] quick question

2003-02-20 Thread Kevin Saenz
I have a flat file that is comma delimited I would like to add to the
start of every line

insert into table1 (


and append to the end of every line with );

is there a way I can do this using one command line?

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Chris
Try looking at connect.com.au ntps.
As for software, just ntp will do :)

On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 19:01, Kevin Saenz wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what is a good time client/server I could install
 so that I can synchonise time across all my machines?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [SLUG] quick question

2003-02-20 Thread Mark A. Bell
--- Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a flat file that is comma delimited I would like to add to the
 start of every line
 
 insert into table1 (
 and append to the end of every line with );
 is there a way I can do this using one command line?

Hi Kevin,

How about this?

  awk '{print insert into table1 ( $0 )}' myfile.csv

...mark

P.S.: How do you do it with Sed?


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Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Ken Foskey
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:44, Brad Thomson wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:55:54PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
  
  The simple solution is either;
  
  A. Send them a PDF file
  
  Or
  
  B. Rename your resume.txt to resume.doc
  
  Either way they'll still read it.
 
 Nope, PDF files generally go in the too hard basket due to lack of ability
 to easily edit them.
 
 A couple of the agencies have databases that not only accept Word files for
 input natively, but only work with specific versions of Word, which is why
 many will insist on Word 6 or Word 97 format, for example.
 
 You're probably only doing yourself a disservice by refusing to comply with
 these people.

OOo marketing follows :-)

word doc files.

PDF documents  (next release is pretty good)

RTF files.

HTML files

Keep the original in OpenOffice.org sxw then export it to whatever you
want.

Personally I want round trip on pdf so that I can edit the suckers. 
Does anyone know how to merge a form with signatures (unsigned) with
another pdf.  We are build a system for the client to sign off on
results and we want to attach the sign-off form to the top of the image
we create.


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Re: [SLUG] quick question

2003-02-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Mark A. Bell

   awk '{print insert into table1 ( $0 )}' myfile.csv

 P.S.: How do you do it with Sed?

sed 's/\(.*\)/insert into table1 (\1);/' myfile.csv

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Re: [SLUG] internet time servers and time clients

2003-02-20 Thread Kevin Saenz
Thanks all for the answers to both my questions.


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Re: [SLUG] quick question

2003-02-20 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Jeff Waugh

 sed 's/\(.*\)/insert into table1 (\1);/' myfile.csv

sed 's/.*/insert into table1 ();/' myfile.csv

:)

(he didn't ask for the , btw)
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Re: [SLUG] quick question

2003-02-20 Thread mlh
On 20 Feb 2003 20:32:19 +1100
Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a flat file that is comma delimited I would like to add to the
 start of every line
 
 insert into table1 (

 and append to the end of every line with );

[mlh@localhost mlh]$ cat animaux
fish
cat
dog
[mlh@localhost mlh]$ sed 's/^/insert into table1 (/;s/$/);/'  animaux 
insert into table1 (fish);
insert into table1 (cat);
insert into table1 (dog);
[mlh@localhost mlh]$ 


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[SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread Mick Boda
Hi all,

I have a friend who wants to swap Debian Woody (3.0?) for Redhat 8.0. 

I'm not particularly happy Redhat 8.0, preferring 7.3 and am looking to change 
distros.  I have always wanted to try Debian, but after frustrating network 
and video problems, I never got past the install with potato.

Here are my main concerns.  I have a Dual head ATi Radeon 7500 which I'm happy 
to write XF86Conf files for, but I have heard that Debian does not support 
the Radeon cards.  I could work around this by using a text based internet 
browser to download the latest Xfree stuff (4.1 or whatever it is now).  But 
I also have a Realtek Rtl8139 100 base network card that Debian potato 
would not recognise.  Which makes it hard to log into the server to access 
the internet.

Hardware is AMD XP1700, 1 GB PC 2100 DDR-Ram, IDE 1 60GB Seagate HDD (pri) 52X 
Cdrom (sla) IDE2 CD-RW (pri) (may possibly be adding 40GB seagate this 
weekend)
AGP, Generic powered by ATi Radeon Dual Head 7500;  PCI slot 5 RTL8139 
100Base network card.

Can anyone see any possible unsupported hardware problems and can anyone 
suggest work arounds for those problems?


Regards

Mick


 
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Re: [SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread David Kempe
Get knoppix.
Its debian based, you don't actually have to install anything to try it, and
when you decide you like it, it asks a few simple questions and copies stuff
to your hard drive and you are done.
couldn't be easier for a desktop distro.
Then, once you know whats going on with debian, you can change your
sources.list and get all the wonders of debian unstable or woody.

dave

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Can anyone see any possible unsupported hardware problems and can anyone
suggest work arounds for those problems?



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Re: [SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread Ken Foskey
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 04:17, Mick Boda wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a friend who wants to swap Debian Woody (3.0?) for Redhat 8.0. 
 
 I'm not particularly happy Redhat 8.0, preferring 7.3 and am looking to change 
 distros.  I have always wanted to try Debian, but after frustrating network 
 and video problems, I never got past the install with potato.

I was looking for a page on creating a deb from kernel source and came
across this link:


http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br/debian-br/porque_debian/debian-da-bomb.html
   


At the bottom is a link about moving from redhat to debian in place that
might be useful.

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[SLUG] Raid Array on dell machine - debian install

2003-02-20 Thread scott
Hi all,
We have made the mistake of purchasing a system for a customer, and having 
troubles installing debian on it.
We have debian woody minimal install (the 180mb iso) and can't get it to 
install cause of the ide raid.
Thecard is a LSI Logic CERT ATA 100.
The only driver disk I have found is from the Dell website, and is for 
RedHat ONLY.
I guess I could muck around trying to extract the rpm's and make the 
module myself, but is there an easier way?
or am I stuck running RedHat on this machine.

I will never buy a Dell server again! (Not only for this reason!)

Cheers,

Scott
 

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Re: [SLUG] Raid Array on dell machine - debian install

2003-02-20 Thread Dave Kempe
There is a page somewhere that has extra disks for the debian install
with strange and wonderful modules.
You may be able to google for it.
I believe i needed it for an Adaptec i2o controller I was using once.
perhaps that might help your search

dave

On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 10:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 We have made the mistake of purchasing a system for a customer, and having 
 troubles installing debian on it.
 We have debian woody minimal install (the 180mb iso) and can't get it to 
 install cause of the ide raid.
 Thecard is a LSI Logic CERT ATA 100.
 The only driver disk I have found is from the Dell website, and is for 
 RedHat ONLY.
 I guess I could muck around trying to extract the rpm's and make the 
 module myself, but is there an easier way?
 or am I stuck running RedHat on this machine.
 
 I will never buy a Dell server again! (Not only for this reason!)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Scott
  
 
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Re: exif/jpg files (was Re: [SLUG] USB CF card readers on Linux)

2003-02-20 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 06:23:35PM +1030, David Fitch wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 15:40, John Clarke wrote:
  I wonder whether the image would still be viewable without the
  thumbnail.  It's easy enough to identify the start and end of the
  thumbnail within the file, so removing it would be simple (you'd have
  to adjust the APP1 data size accordingly).
  
  Something to do when I get an appropriately shaped tuit ...
 
 yes it is.  I run convert +profile APP1 over the images

Ah, thanks Dave, that's what I was missing.  I've been using convert
for ages, mostly to resize images, but I couldn't figure out how to get
rid of the thumbnail.


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[SLUG] Simple sendmail questions

2003-02-20 Thread Peter Vogel
After much web seraching I surrender and ask the experts these dumb
questions:

Which sendmail.cf variable determines how often the queue is processed?
What command do I use to force the mail queue to be run?

What might be causing:
h1KLXOfJ021045  960 Fri Feb 21 08:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (reply: read error from mailin-02.mx.aol.com.)

to happen frequently (but not always) when I al lother mail goes out
just fine?

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Simple sendmail questions

2003-02-20 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:01:44AM +1100, Peter Vogel wrote:

 Which sendmail.cf variable determines how often the queue is processed?

The value given with -q switch passed to sendmail when it's started.

 What command do I use to force the mail queue to be run?

sendmail -q

 What might be causing:
 h1KLXOfJ021045  960 Fri Feb 21 08:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (reply: read error from mailin-02.mx.aol.com.)

mailin-02.mx.aol.com might be too busy, or the network might be
congested, or it might be a Notes or Exchange server which falls over
for no apparent reason.  Nothing to worry about, sendmail will retry
and the mail will be delivered.


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Re: [SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 04:17, Mick Boda wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a friend who wants to swap Debian Woody (3.0?) for Redhat 8.0. 
 
 I'm not particularly happy Redhat 8.0, preferring 7.3 and am looking to change 
 distros.  I have always wanted to try Debian, but after frustrating network 
 and video problems, I never got past the install with potato.

Out of interest, why weren't you happy with Red Hat 8.0?

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Re: [SLUG] Raid Array on dell machine - debian install

2003-02-20 Thread scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21-02-2003 09:50:40 AM:

 There is a page somewhere that has extra disks for the debian install
 with strange and wonderful modules.
 You may be able to google for it.
 I believe i needed it for an Adaptec i2o controller I was using once.
 perhaps that might help your search
 
 dave
 
Thanks for that.
I found a site that has drivers for exotic RIAD adapters, and after 
loading megaraid.o, has detected the drives nicely.

Regards,

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Re: [SLUG] Free content

2003-02-20 Thread Richard Hayes
At 12:19 PM 20/02/2003 +1030, Jamie Lovick wrote:


As part of building communtiy wireless networks, we want to ensure that
the network has legal content. Since a network is nothing without
content, I am looking for suggestions on what everything thinks should
be readilly accessible on the network.

This includes software, audio, video, texts, etc. Anything you would
consider be good content.

Also, in our attempts to help the concept grow, we do demonstrations
from time to time (the next one will be this weekend at the Wyong
HAMfest - http://www.terrigal.net.au/~vk2ydh/ccarc/fieldday/index.html),
we want to make sure we show off as much as possible. If anyone has any
concepts that they consider would be good to show, wireless, linux, or
otherwise, but preferablly free, I'd love to hear your feedback.


One the best sources of 'free beer' content is www.freesticky.com but libre 
content is harders.




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Re: [SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread Jean-Francois Dive
I think this is always the same story... Debian moves slower than any
other distribution in most of the packages it offers. This is an element
in the chose of a distribution. However, generally speaking, the
packages have a better quality. Setting up debian is definitively less
easy than the others due to the lack of nice install and detection
system etc.., this is a fact (even if a lot of people are working on
nice features arriving sometimes) , but eveything supported by any linux
distro can work in debian too, it is just a matter of patience (in the
case of Xfree) or doing the work yourself. Debian is alway compared to a
power user distro, this is a fact i reckon even if installing is a
really easy thing to do.I would never change from debian to anything
else anymore because i know how to make it work for my needs. If you're
happy with a distro, why change ? Major rule is to never change
something which works...

JeF

On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 10:41, Mike MacCana wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 04:17, Mick Boda wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I have a friend who wants to swap Debian Woody (3.0?) for Redhat 8.0. 
  
  I'm not particularly happy Redhat 8.0, preferring 7.3 and am looking to change 
  distros.  I have always wanted to try Debian, but after frustrating network 
  and video problems, I never got past the install with potato.
 
 Out of interest, why weren't you happy with Red Hat 8.0?
 
 Mike
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[SLUG] [OT ] Recovering WordPeferect 5.1 files

2003-02-20 Thread Richard Hayes
Dear list,

I want to recovery some old WP 5.1 dos files.

Does WP for linux support 5.1 files?

Can I run WP5.1 for dos under Linux?

Is there a easy solution?




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Re: [SLUG] [OT ] Recovering WordPeferect 5.1 files

2003-02-20 Thread Jon Biddell
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 12:32, Richard Hayes wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I want to recovery some old WP 5.1 dos files.
 
 Does WP for linux support 5.1 files?
 
 Can I run WP5.1 for dos under Linux?
 
 Is there a easy solution?

At the risk of being obvious, have you tried OpenOffice ?  I'm pretty
sure it can read them with minimal formatting loss.

Jon


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Re: [SLUG] [OT ] Recovering WordPeferect 5.1 files

2003-02-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Richard Hayes

 Can I run WP5.1 for dos under Linux?

Try it in DOSEMU and freedos. I bet you it works. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] PDF Merging (Was: difficult recruiters.)

2003-02-20 Thread Anthony Wood
 Does anyone know how to merge a form with signatures (unsigned) with
 another pdf.  We are build a system for the client to sign off on
 results and we want to attach the sign-off form to the top of the image
 we create.

OK, if by form, you mean acrobat form, then you have to use either Acrobat
proper, or the perl module PDF::API2:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;
use PDF::API2; # 0.3a26 or higher

my $cover = PDF::API2-open('coverletter.pdf');
my $body = PDF::API2-open('body.pdf');
my $merged = PDF::API2-new(-file = 'merged.pdf');
foreach my $pdf ($cover,$body) {
  foreach my $pageno (1..($pdf-pages)) { # 1 (not 0) is 1st page !
$merged-importpage($pdf,$pageno); # insert it at the end
  }
}
$merged-save;

If you just mean a PDF when printed out becomes a paper form, then you can
use other tools, like pdflatex.

merge.tex:
\documentclass[a4paper]{minimal}
\usepackage{geometry}
\geometry{top=0cm,bottom=0cm,left=0cm,right=0cm,nohead,nofoot}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[pages={-}]{cover.pdf}
\includepdf[pages={-}]{body.pdf}
\end{document}

# pdflatex merge.tex

Many apps (notably word with PDFwriter) produce broken pdfs which
can't be used by many tools, but pdflatex is very tolerant, I use
it to clean/redistill pdfs before I use perl tools on them,
using the above TeX with only one pdf.

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:09:12PM +1100, Matt wrote:
 
 | It's completely unreasonable for such companies to dictate to the people
 | who they depend on for their mere existence (the technical talent) and
 | discriminate against those who don't happen to use their (poor) choice
 | of internal documentation
 
 
 You have to show these recruiters that you can bend, they're looking for

I don't think so - they have to demonstrate to you that it is worth your
time dealing with them. I automatically don't bother with recruiters who
insist on a particular format.

When those recruiters who bother to explain the problem -- I need to
replace your contacts details -- I send them a custom resume with the
appropriate details removed.

If I wanted them to edit my resume, I'd have them write it.

 flexibility in the technoical talent of candidates and besides don't most
 open sorce office suites have the option to read/write .doc, .xls etc.
 format?

Irrespective of what a particular office suite is capable, a recrutier
who can't explain why they want what they want isn't worth your time.
You should also note who they are and ensure you don't deal with them
when you are looking for people either.

Regards,
Anand

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Converting OpenOffice via XSLT was: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:43:09PM +1100, Mike MacCana wrote:
 This discussion began on the list. I'd like to keep it there.
 
 On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 16:34, Russell Davies wrote:
  ; Its significantly better. We're using an open documented format, that
  ; any application can support should it wish to. 
  ; 
  ; Even better, we're using a tool designed for the job, unlike HTML.
  ; OpenOffice has proper mechanisms for tracking changes in a document, far
  ; better support for a print oriented documents, spreadsheet functions,
  ; mail merging, etc.
  
  you obviously don't have a unix background. monolithic tools suck. You
  use smaller specialised tools for such tasks.
 
 You obviously know very little about OpenOffice

I suspect that you've not actually bothered to try your it's simple,
use XSLT to convert theory.

I have, well at least tried to. Let me know once you've got past the first 
stumbling block of no documentation for the DTDs. Even the referenced
URLs for the DTDs don't exist.

Waiting patiently,
Anand

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Re: [SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread Terry Collins
Mike MacCana wrote:

 Out of interest, why weren't you happy with Red Hat 8.0?

Well, I've now got to debug dvips because it won't pipe to lpr in RH8.0.
Major reason {:-)
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Re: [SLUG] Raid Array on dell machine - debian install

2003-02-20 Thread Angus Lees
At Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:59:03 +1000, Scott Ragen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21-02-2003 09:50:40 AM:
  There is a page somewhere that has extra disks for the debian install
  with strange and wonderful modules.
  You may be able to google for it.
  I believe i needed it for an Adaptec i2o controller I was using once.
  perhaps that might help your search

all things dell and linux: http://www.domsch.com/linux/

 I found a site that has drivers for exotic RIAD adapters, and after 
 loading megaraid.o, has detected the drives nicely.

i note that megaraid.o is already in my standard debian
kernel-image-2.4.20-686 package.  the debian 2.4 kernels also include
the aacraid drivers, which are not in the linus tree (yet?) and are
often needed for dells with hardware raid (in my brief experience).

if you are installing off woody install disks, make sure you boot
using the 2.4 kernel (default is 2.2) (see install docs if the boot
loader doesn't make it clear). that should make most things Just Work.

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Re: Converting OpenOffice via XSLT was: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Glen Turner
Anand Kumria wrote:


I have, well at least tried to. Let me know once you've got past the first 
stumbling block of no documentation for the DTDs.

DTDs are at:
 http://xml.openoffice.org/source/browse/xml/xmloff/dtd/

Explanation of items described by DTD are at:
 http://xml.openoffice.org/xml_specification.pdf

For XSLT examples working with the OpenOffice DTDs see
 http://www.chez.com/ebellot/ooo2sdbk/

There's also a good article, with examples, at

 Adventures with OpenOffice and XML
 http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/02/07/openoffice.html

The author, Matt Sergeant, is the principal of AxKit which
contains Apache-AxKit-Provider-OpenOffice which renders
OpenOffice XML into HTML and PDF.

 Even the referenced URLs for the DTDs don't exist.

I assume you mean the System Identifier URL doesn't point
to the DTDs.  Which is fine, if annoying.

Hope this helps,
Glen

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[SLUG] Wireless at UTS

2003-02-20 Thread Jamie Lovick

Hi,

Could any UTS students who would be interested in joining a wireless
club at UTS please contact me off list.

Regards

Jamie

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Re: [SLUG] Free content

2003-02-20 Thread Matthew Davidson
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:49, Jamie Lovick wrote:
 As part of building communtiy wireless networks, we want to ensure that
 the network has legal content. Since a network is nothing without
 content, I am looking for suggestions on what everything thinks should
 be readilly accessible on the network.

Don't have much to suggest besides the obvious mirroring as much of
ibiblio.org as your servers can handle.

Are you familiar with http://www.creativecommons.org?  You may find some
sources of content through there.

I am doing a lot of volunteer work at an arts centre at Parramatta, and
am thinking of doing an evangelical presentation on publishing artistic
works under Creative Commons licences.  Also looking to find anybody
else knowledgeable/ravingly zealous about free-as-in-speech
self-publishing to participate in the discussion.  Anybody?

Matthew.

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OT: Re: [SLUG] Free content

2003-02-20 Thread Jamie Lovick

Hi,

On 21 Feb 2003, Matthew Davidson wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:49, Jamie Lovick wrote:
  As part of building communtiy wireless networks, we want to ensure that
  the network has legal content. Since a network is nothing without
  content, I am looking for suggestions on what everything thinks should
  be readilly accessible on the network.
 
 Don't have much to suggest besides the obvious mirroring as much of
 ibiblio.org as your servers can handle.

Thanks.

 Are you familiar with http://www.creativecommons.org?  You may find
 some sources of content through there.

No, but thanks.

 I am doing a lot of volunteer work at an arts centre at Parramatta,
 and am thinking of doing an evangelical presentation on publishing
 artistic works under Creative Commons licences.  Also looking to
 find anybody else knowledgeable/ravingly zealous about
 free-as-in-speech self-publishing to participate in the discussion.  
 Anybody?

If there is anyway we can help out as an assocation, let me know. We are
very community orientated.

Also, if you know of any locations where wireless access points may be
mounted (preferably on a well placed roof with good line of site in all
directions) in exchange for technical assistance or knowledge, we'd be
interested in hearing from you (or anyone).

Regards

Jamie

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Re: Converting OpenOffice via XSLT was: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 01:23:01PM +1030, Glen Turner wrote:
 Anand Kumria wrote:
 
 I have, well at least tried to. Let me know once you've got past the first 
 stumbling block of no documentation for the DTDs.
 
 DTDs are at:
  http://xml.openoffice.org/source/browse/xml/xmloff/dtd/
 
 Explanation of items described by DTD are at:
  http://xml.openoffice.org/xml_specification.pdf
 
 For XSLT examples working with the OpenOffice DTDs see
  http://www.chez.com/ebellot/ooo2sdbk/
 
 There's also a good article, with examples, at
 
  Adventures with OpenOffice and XML
  http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/02/07/openoffice.html
 
 The author, Matt Sergeant, is the principal of AxKit which
 contains Apache-AxKit-Provider-OpenOffice which renders
 OpenOffice XML into HTML and PDF.
 
  Even the referenced URLs for the DTDs don't exist.
 
 I assume you mean the System Identifier URL doesn't point
 to the DTDs.  Which is fine, if annoying.

No, inside the various .xml files the referenced DTDs are:

http://openoffice.org/2000/office, etc.

Which return 404 currently.

Thanks for the various links however, I'd found some of those only 
recently.

Regards,
Anand

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[SLUG] Milter or mail footer

2003-02-20 Thread Phil Scarratt
Howdy

I thought this was going to be easy but after a quick sendmail 
investigation and a google I'm starting to think otherwise

What I am being asked to do is to add one of those annoying 
footer/signatures to the end of all outgoing mail. The mail daemon is 
sendmail.

Am I correct in saying I need a milter? If so what's available or the 
best to use? Is there any other way of doing it?

Fil

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Re: [SLUG] Milter or mail footer

2003-02-20 Thread Dave Airlie

Yes, but read
http://www.professional.org/procmail/smtp.html

first.. Question: I want to put a disclaimer tag on all of the messages
sent by our server, like all those legal firms do.

getting it work with MIME is interesting at the best of times ..

I think milter is the best bet .. or maybe MIMEdefang...

Dave.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Phil Scarratt wrote:

 Howdy

 I thought this was going to be easy but after a quick sendmail
 investigation and a google I'm starting to think otherwise

 What I am being asked to do is to add one of those annoying
 footer/signatures to the end of all outgoing mail. The mail daemon is
 sendmail.

 Am I correct in saying I need a milter? If so what's available or the
 best to use? Is there any other way of doing it?

 Fil



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Re: [SLUG] Free content

2003-02-20 Thread wm
how about wikipedia - a useful and free encylopedia (GNU Free Documentation 
License) - http://www.wikipedia.org/

and their sister but still early days project - http://wiktionary.org/

some audio stuff - http://openmusicregistry.org/

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:49, Jamie Lovick wrote:
 Hi,

 As part of building communtiy wireless networks, we want to ensure that
 the network has legal content. Since a network is nothing without
 content, I am looking for suggestions on what everything thinks should
 be readilly accessible on the network.

 This includes software, audio, video, texts, etc. Anything you would
 consider be good content.

 Also, in our attempts to help the concept grow, we do demonstrations
 from time to time (the next one will be this weekend at the Wyong
 HAMfest - http://www.terrigal.net.au/~vk2ydh/ccarc/fieldday/index.html),
 we want to make sure we show off as much as possible. If anyone has any
 concepts that they consider would be good to show, wireless, linux, or
 otherwise, but preferablly free, I'd love to hear your feedback.

 Regards

 Jamie

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Re: [SLUG] Milter or mail footer

2003-02-20 Thread Phil Scarratt
I do like his comment in the second question of the faq

...I include this question specifically because I'd like to point out 
how asinine such disclaimers are

Couldn't agree more. Waste of good electrons.

Fil

Dave Airlie wrote:
Yes, but read
http://www.professional.org/procmail/smtp.html

first.. Question: I want to put a disclaimer tag on all of the messages
sent by our server, like all those legal firms do.

getting it work with MIME is interesting at the best of times ..

I think milter is the best bet .. or maybe MIMEdefang...

Dave.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Phil Scarratt wrote:



Howdy

I thought this was going to be easy but after a quick sendmail
investigation and a google I'm starting to think otherwise

What I am being asked to do is to add one of those annoying
footer/signatures to the end of all outgoing mail. The mail daemon is
sendmail.

Am I correct in saying I need a milter? If so what's available or the
best to use? Is there any other way of doing it?

Fil








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Re: [SLUG] To Debian or not to Debian, that is the ......

2003-02-20 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On 21 Feb 2003 11:47:52 +1100
Jean-Francois Dive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this is always the same story... Debian moves slower than any
 other distribution in most of the packages it offers. 

Debian testing does not move slower than other distros, it moves significantly
faster. 

Erik
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