[SLUG] Sixth Edition - LinMagAu - Survey
Hi all, I don't usually send this overview to all LUGS each month however this month we would like you all to know so that you can participate in the survey...at http://www.linmagau.org **A Survey** Demographics, membership and usage survey. Gathering information from across Australia about your community. Please visit the site and take 10 minutes to go through the survey.. Other great things to look out for.. Interviews --- Andrew Morton 2.6 Kernel Maintainer Michael Davies - Meta-organiser George Staikos - Linux Drivers Software Apps --- OpenOffice.org: Where is MS Access? JPEG to MPEG conversion HOWTO PhotoShelf Tractorgen PHP TODO PHPSurveyor Other Features -- Distro Day (Measuring Gentoo) Software Crash Recovery Tips Essential CVS - A review Lo-Fat 2 - The Post Install Tune-Up Why Debian over Redhat in 15 seconds Gentoo Emerges Free Software Project Pyramid Tips and Tricks --- Bash Scripts Google Loop Counting Readable PATH ? KDE - Gnome - Clicking Download script (Concord EyeQ Duo LCD) Community - ICH - Internet Community Hour AUUG OpenSource Awards 2003 The OSV Scholar Challenge UG focus - HUMBUG (QLD) Updates --- LinMagAu LCA2004 AUUG Election Results OzZope Sprint Rekonstruction Linux Australia Conferences Events AUUG 2003 SAGE-AU 2003 NOIE OSS Seminars User Group Day LPI Information Seminar -Syd Ideation and Fun --- Open letter to suers Windows/Linux a fair look? Slackware is 10, reminiscing Linux the future? Random Gatherings Email of the Month Once again, thanks to all those who have supported the magazine over the last month. Regards Kimberly Shelt -- http://www.linmagau.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] sql2tinydns
Hi All, I am trying to setup sql2tinydns and I am having some drama's. I have installed the username and database ok into my SQL server, and I have imported the schema ok also (i think, at least I didn't get any errors). However when I try and bring up the webpage I am getting the following error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/admin/sql2dns/includes/db.inc.php on line 50 now logic would tell me to have a look at line 50 in that php file which has: # make the connection $link = mysql_connect ($dbhost, $dbuser, $dbpwd) or die (Could not connect); mysql_select_db($db, $link) or die(Could not select database); I thought maybe it doesn't like the line break on the line before and joined them, however I still got the same error and changed it back. Has anyone used sql2tinydns and had similar issues? or anyone have an idea? Any help would be appreciated. Adam. PS. Please dont ask why I am using 'that tinydns sh*te'...lets just say I dont have the option. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multi-page tiff (again)
Hi there again, My last submitted convert script works OK for small tifs by converting them to PDFs however, for large ones (or perhaps non-standard ones who knows) it wrecks my CPU and forces a reboot. I have a 2Mb tiff that does this every time. So FWIW, here is an alternative, its called tiffsplit. mkdir ~/tmptif rm -f ~/tmptif/* tiffsplit $1 ~/tmptif/prefix kuickshow ~/tmptif This is also sub-optimal but works. It creates the individual pages as seperate images which kuickshow was able to view in preview or fullscreen mode. Not too bad. Suboptimal because it would be better to re-combine them to PDF (anyone?) so that they could be printed as one and sent to others as a PDF. Update solved it: cd ~/tmptif tiff2ps * prefix.ps ps2pdf prefix.ps xpdf prefix.pdf This views it as a PDF successfully. I guess these tools are better with tiff files than the ImageMagick convert tool? BTW http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/ This site was helpful but in the end all of the non-commercial image viewers (that I could actually install) failed to do the job. FWIW Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] problem Remote X
Dear all I am a newbie in the linux world so please guide me. I just install woody in my AMD K6 500Mhz everything work fine including the Xserver. I Just read an article about XDMCP and remote host and very interested in it. I did what the XDMCP-HOWTO that shipped with woody 3 and I ssh the woody using putty with tunnel enable but the response is cannot open display and then I set the DISPLAY environment variable by set the command export DISPLAY=windows:0.0 and type the startx again the result is cannot find display windows:0.0 is there any problem with the setting please guide me? and another problem when I go to KDE environment I found an error said /dev/dsp device not found and I list the dev the dsp is there and I add the group audio to my user still has the error please help me __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] problem Remote X
Dear all I am a newbie in the linux world so please guide me. I just install woody in my AMD K6 500Mhz everything work fine including the Xserver. I Just read an article about XDMCP and remote host and very interested in it. I did what the XDMCP-HOWTO that shipped with woody 3 and I ssh the woody using putty with tunnel enable but the response is cannot open display and then I set the DISPLAY environment variable by set the command export DISPLAY=windows:0.0 and type the startx again the result is cannot find display windows:0.0 is there any problem with the setting please guide me? and another problem when I go to KDE environment I found an error said /dev/dsp device not found and I list the dev the dsp is there and I add the group audio to my user still has the error please help me __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Web sever locally unaccessible.
Hi Sluggers, I am a linux newbie. Just got an ADSL connection and already setup a local network with a linux server and MS workstations. I have successfully set up a web server on the same linux server. My problem is this. I have three web sites running in my server using virtual hosts. I have a Dlink DSL 504 router. I am unable to see the web pages from the local network. I can only see the default page with the local IP address. When ever I use the www.mydomain.com.au, it says connection refused. How can I change this situation, so that I can also view the pages locally? Thanks in advance. pathman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Web sever locally unaccessible.
Check out your virtual hosts settings in apache and/or just address it on your local machine directly via its ip address. You could also put an entry in your hosts file with the local ip address range. Finally, is your web server definately running? HTH Stu Myuran Pathmanathan wrote: Hi Sluggers, I am a linux newbie. Just got an ADSL connection and already setup a local network with a linux server and MS workstations. I have successfully set up a web server on the same linux server. My problem is this. I have three web sites running in my server using virtual hosts. I have a Dlink DSL 504 router. I am unable to see the web pages from the local network. I can only see the default page with the local IP address. When ever I use the www.mydomain.com.au, it says connection refused. How can I change this situation, so that I can also view the pages locally? Thanks in advance. pathman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat
G'day all... If I was wanting to move a file called ---.dat to another name (say foo.dat) - how would I go about it? mv interprets the - in the filename as a parameter switch (and as the shell expands wildcards, they are futile) - how do I tell mv that its the file to operate upon? Thanks. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 10:38, Michael Kraus wrote: G'day all... If I was wanting to move a file called ---.dat to another name (say foo.dat) - how would I go about it? mv interprets the - in the filename as a parameter switch (and as the shell expands wildcards, they are futile) - how do I tell mv that its the file to operate upon? This type of question normally starts a huge thread about the best ways In my book, the best way is mv -- ---.bar foo.bar The initial double dashes tell mv that everything after is NOT an option but an arg. TG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat
have you tried mv ---.dat foo.dat G'day all... If I was wanting to move a file called ---.dat to another name (say foo.dat) - how would I go about it? mv interprets the - in the filename as a parameter switch (and as the shell expands wildcards, they are futile) - how do I tell mv that its the file to operate upon? Thanks. Mike -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb Your one stop shop for I.T solutions. Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Web sever locally unaccessible.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:22:12PM +0800, Myuran Pathmanathan wrote: I have three web sites running in my server using virtual hosts. I have a Dlink DSL 504 router. I am unable to see the web pages from the local network. I can only see the default page with the local IP address. When ever I use the www.mydomain.com.au, it says connection refused. Smells to me like the router isn't doing it's NAT job properly. Let me describe what I think your network is: The DSL line has a single public IP address assigned. The 504 is configured to NAT onto that address, and to port forward 80 to the private IP'd linux box. The DNS for your VHosted domains is the public IP. If this is the case, you need to get the 504 to NAT the source IP for web requests to the public IP to the private address of the router if the source address is your local network, because what will happen otherwise is that the webserver will see a local source address and send it straight back (as itself), which will confuse the hell out of the requesting machine, because it's talking to public IP not private IP. How to do this mapping on a 504 I have no idea, because my routers are Linux boxes. I could give you IPTables rules to do it, but that wouldn't help. Of course, if your network setup is different, then this is all bollocks. In which case, more network description would be desirable. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat
% mv ./---.dat foo.dat Worth a try, i guess. Raj ::-Original Message- ::From: Michael Kraus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 10:38 AM ::To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Subject: [SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat :: :: ::G'day all... :: ::If I was wanting to move a file called ---.dat to another name (say ::foo.dat) - how would I go about it? :: ::mv interprets the - in the filename as a parameter switch ::(and as the ::shell expands wildcards, they are futile) - how do I tell mv that its ::the file to operate upon? :: :: ::Thanks. :: ::Mike :: :: ::-- ::SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ ::More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug :: -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [plug] sql2tinydns
Cheers for your replies, I have now got sql2dns up and running, however when I try to add a new domain I am getting the following error: Insert failed: Unknown column 'rr_fqdn' in 'field list' and when I try and 'preview data file changes' I get: Failed to query for data According to the install file, you need to make the tiny-dns data file writable by the web server, which I have done by changing the owener and group to www-data. I have then tried logging with the user www-data and make changes with the data file, and it works no problems. Any ideas? Cheers, Adam. On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 16:40, Adam Hewitt wrote: Hi All, I am trying to setup sql2tinydns and I am having some drama's. I have installed the username and database ok into my SQL server, and I have imported the schema ok also (i think, at least I didn't get any errors). However when I try and bring up the webpage I am getting the following error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/admin/sql2dns/includes/db.inc.php on line 50 now logic would tell me to have a look at line 50 in that php file which has: # make the connection $link = mysql_connect ($dbhost, $dbuser, $dbpwd) or die (Could not connect); mysql_select_db($db, $link) or die(Could not select database); I thought maybe it doesn't like the line break on the line before and joined them, however I still got the same error and changed it back. Has anyone used sql2tinydns and had similar issues? or anyone have an idea? Any help would be appreciated. Adam. PS. Please dont ask why I am using 'that tinydns sh*te'...lets just say I dont have the option. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
Educational Allies and other dudes, A few TAFE people had a meeting yesterday in Sydney's west---we have launched the process to creating some Linux Statement of Attainment courses. I think I'm right in saying these will be the first courses in Australia to offer an inexpensive ($150) open entry Linux specific qualification. They formalize the courses we have had running at Granville TAFE Electrical Engineering Dept. for a number of years. For your comment The courses: Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. o Running Linux (72 hours) Introduction to Linux for computer literate people. Aimed at people studying Computer Science at other institutions, administrators of legacy commercial systems or any all those who have been running Linux somewhere and would like to fill in the gaps in their knowledge. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. Statement of Attainment in LPI Certification Level 1 o LPIC 101 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: Completed Running Linux or equiv. or RPL or LPIC 102 Exam Preparation This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 101. o LPIC 102 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: Completed Running Linux or equiv. or RPL or LPIC 101 Exam Preparation This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 102. Statement of Attainment in LPI Certification Level 2 o LPIC 201 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: LPIC 101 Exam Preparation and LPIC 102 Exam Preparationor LPIC Level 1 Certification. This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 201. o LPIC 202 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: LPIC 101 Exam Preparation and LPIC 102 Exam Preparation or LPIC Level 1 Certification. This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 202. Comments Geoffrey lcdp.sf.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
I would love to be able to find people competent in the administration of NIS, samba, NFS and able to use tapes with tar etc, be competent in shell scripting. There seems to be such an emphases of linux as a webserver compared to other tasks. On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 11:40, Geoffrey Robertson wrote: Educational Allies and other dudes, A few TAFE people had a meeting yesterday in Sydney's west---we have launched the process to creating some Linux Statement of Attainment courses. I think I'm right in saying these will be the first courses in Australia to offer an inexpensive ($150) open entry Linux specific qualification. They formalize the courses we have had running at Granville TAFE Electrical Engineering Dept. for a number of years. For your comment The courses: Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. o Running Linux (72 hours) Introduction to Linux for computer literate people. Aimed at people studying Computer Science at other institutions, administrators of legacy commercial systems or any all those who have been running Linux somewhere and would like to fill in the gaps in their knowledge. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. Statement of Attainment in LPI Certification Level 1 o LPIC 101 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: Completed Running Linux or equiv. or RPL or LPIC 102 Exam Preparation This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 101. o LPIC 102 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: Completed Running Linux or equiv. or RPL or LPIC 101 Exam Preparation This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 102. Statement of Attainment in LPI Certification Level 2 o LPIC 201 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: LPIC 101 Exam Preparation and LPIC 102 Exam Preparationor LPIC Level 1 Certification. This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 201. o LPIC 202 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: LPIC 101 Exam Preparation and LPIC 102 Exam Preparation or LPIC Level 1 Certification. This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 202. Comments Geoffrey lcdp.sf.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
- Original Message - From: Geoffrey Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux Educational Allies and other dudes, A few TAFE people had a meeting yesterday in Sydney's west---we have launched the process to creating some Linux Statement of Attainment courses. I think I'm right in saying these will be the first courses in Australia to offer an inexpensive ($150) open entry Linux specific qualification. They formalize the courses we have had running at Granville TAFE Electrical Engineering Dept. for a number of years. For your comment The courses: Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. o Running Linux (72 hours) Introduction to Linux for computer literate people. Aimed at people studying Computer Science at other institutions, administrators of legacy commercial systems or any all those who have been running Linux somewhere and would like to fill in the gaps in their knowledge. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. snip, yet again What about Multimedia in Linux? Configuring A/V Hardware, Music composition, Video Editing, Flash, etc? Not sure if it would fit in 72 hours though.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
Like I said. Video editing, etc. I watch DVDs with Xine too. I find that converting DVDs to divx/xvid is a little Faster under linux, though it's slightly more work. Muskie - Original Message - From: DE LUCA Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andar Broment [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux you do AV in linux? what sorts of things do you do? On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:06, Andar Broment wrote: - Original Message - From: Geoffrey Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux Educational Allies and other dudes, A few TAFE people had a meeting yesterday in Sydney's west---we have launched the process to creating some Linux Statement of Attainment courses. I think I'm right in saying these will be the first courses in Australia to offer an inexpensive ($150) open entry Linux specific qualification. They formalize the courses we have had running at Granville TAFE Electrical Engineering Dept. for a number of years. For your comment The courses: Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. o Running Linux (72 hours) Introduction to Linux for computer literate people. Aimed at people studying Computer Science at other institutions, administrators of legacy commercial systems or any all those who have been running Linux somewhere and would like to fill in the gaps in their knowledge. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. snip, yet again What about Multimedia in Linux? Configuring A/V Hardware, Music composition, Video Editing, Flash, etc? Not sure if it would fit in 72 hours though.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
This is an excellent step forward. It's great that the TAFE is starting with the basics in Linux. I would like to see how many people sign up for this course. Also what TAFEs would this appear in? Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. o Running Linux (72 hours) Introduction to Linux for computer literate people. Aimed at people studying Computer Science at other institutions, administrators of legacy commercial systems or any all those who have been running Linux somewhere and would like to fill in the gaps in their knowledge. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. snip, yet again -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:04:39PM +1000, DE LUCA Ben wrote: I would love to be able to find people competent in the administration of NIS, samba, NFS and able to use tapes with tar etc, be competent in shell scripting. There's no real shortage of them. Apart from the NIS requirement (shudder) I could do all of those blindfolded. s/NIS/LDAP/ and you're away. There seems to be such an emphases of linux as a webserver compared to other tasks. I think that's because a webserver is something easily pointed to as a service. Most people know that web pages come from webservers. User information and authentication services are slightly more esoteric... - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 11:40:08AM +1000, Geoffrey Robertson wrote: Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL From my understanding, basically every TAFE course has OHS components in it, because every job listing has knowledge of EEO and OHS requirements - at least, every job my fiancee has looked at lately seems to have it. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? I'd move it from proposal to definite. o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. So much to choose from. More scripting work, maybe some simple SA tasks (backups, user administration, etc), LDAP, other network services (DNS, mail, squid, etc). - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
-= Subjects: -= o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours -= Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL -= -= From my understanding, basically every TAFE course has -= OHS components -= in -= it, because every job listing has knowledge of EEO and -= OHS requirements - at least, every job my fiancee has -= looked at lately seems to have it. If she's looking at Government jobs, the standard answers are available on the web for this...:-) -= o TBA 72 hours -= Your idea goes here. Email setup (sendmail, procmail, fetchmail primarily), Samba integration with Evilware clients -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [ALLIES] Statement of Attainment in Linux
Geoffrey, Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL Yes; one's health and safety is paramount. o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. You should allow for an easy prior recognition here. I might want to do the course (just to get a piece of paper) and I'd be mightily annoyed if I had to learn how to use the GUI. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. Ok. What prerequisites do the students/course takers/whatever their politically correct name is these days have? That is to say, can you assume that they'll understand: The samba server broadcasts on the 192.168.168.0/26 network In general it sounds good. The course materials...will they be free or do you intend to sell them? (i.e. can I get a copy of them). DSL -- Ce soir je vais coucher avec un chouchou! Oh la la! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:44:28PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: -= it, because every job listing has knowledge of EEO and -= OHS requirements - at least, every job my fiancee has -= looked at lately seems to have it. If she's looking at Government jobs, the standard answers are available on the web for this...:-) We've already got the stock answers on hand. Local gov't jobs, mostly (librarian). -= o TBA 72 hours -= Your idea goes here. Email setup (sendmail, procmail, fetchmail primarily), Samba integration with Evilware clients s/sendmail/MTA/ Sendmail's the last thing I think we should be handing to another generation of net.geeks. I don't care what we *do* give them, I just care that it *isn't* sendmail. As for the Samba stuff, I think that was covered in an earlier proposed module. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat
To: Michael Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 % mv ./---.dat foo.dat Worth a try, i guess. The readline() call stops interpreting command line options after it sees a -- on it's own. So you can do: mv -- ---.dat foo.dat Then the ---.dat will be interpreted as a filename, not as an option. (Now if only I could remember where that was documented, I could point you to the documentation). Regards, Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
Flash!, Linux! please, how do you marry the two? Flash, DreamWeaver and a networked foxpro database remain my obstacles to a 100% Linux set up. On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:06:24 +1000 Andar Broment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about Multimedia in Linux? Configuring A/V Hardware, Music composition, Video Editing, Flash, etc? Not sure if it would fit in 72 hours though.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Laurie Savage Physics/Maths/IT Teacher Pascoe Vale Girls' College Pascoe Vale, Victoria, AUSTRALIA -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mv ---.dat foo.dat
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:55:32PM +1000, Andrew Monkhouse wrote: The readline() call stops interpreting command line options after it sees a -- on it's own. So you can do: mv -- ---.dat foo.dat Then the ---.dat will be interpreted as a filename, not as an option. (Now if only I could remember where that was documented, I could point you to the documentation). getopt(3) The special argument `--' forces an end of option-scanning regardless of the scanning mode. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:50:33PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: Sendmail's the last thing I think we should be handing to another generation of net.geeks. I don't care what we *do* give them, I just care that it *isn't* sendmail. I disagree. Everyone should be taught sendmail as an example of how not to write an MTA :-) Cheers, John (a recent convert from sendmail to postfix) -- Either too much or not enough drugs... Hands up, everyone who thought sendmail.cf. -- Adam J. Thornton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
-= Sendmail's the last thing I think we should be handing to another -= generation of net.geeks. I don't care what we *do* give -= them, I just -= care that it -= *isn't* sendmail. -= -= I disagree. Everyone should be taught sendmail as an -= example of how not to write an MTA :-) I agree in principle, but how many organizations are there Out There that *are* running sendmail successfully, and don't see a need to change it ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 03:19:06PM +1000, John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:50:33PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: Sendmail's the last thing I think we should be handing to another generation of net.geeks. I don't care what we *do* give them, I just care that it *isn't* sendmail. I disagree. Everyone should be taught sendmail as an example of how not to write an MTA :-) We came here to bury sendmail, not to praise it. - Matt (A sendmail.cf guru turned exim nut) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug