[SLUG] Little SLUGlet - m0n0wall firewall
Because I can, I'll bring along a little box with monowall on compact flash to play with at tonights meeting. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ is the URL for the system. It's based on BSD of some kind and boots off compact flash and stores it's config there as well. Will fit easily in an 8MB flash (ie the one that comes with your camera and you quickly realise isn't big enough). -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasonal nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Little SLUGlet - m0n0wall firewall
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 16:00, Grant Parnell wrote: Because I can, I'll bring along a little box with monowall on compact flash to play with at tonights meeting. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ is the URL for the system. It's based on BSD of some kind Heretic! ;-) But the rest sounds great. See you tonight. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
at the risk of being helpful, John Clarke delivered up the following on Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 12:16:08PM +1000, On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:10:00AM +1000, Richard Ames wrote: They should be filtered before the listserver. We had this discussion a couple of weeks ago. All of you, stop whinging about the tiny bit of spam that makes it through the list filters. Something like 99% or more of spam *is* stopped at the list server, thanks to the efforts of the admins. The list admins, all unpaid volunteers, do a great job and should not have to listen to whiny gits who can't be bothered running their own spam filter and expect someone else to protect them. Or better yet --- member only. We've had this discussion too. It's not going to happen. You asked for this a couple of weeks ago and were told so then, what makes you think the answer's going to be any different this time? HERE HERE!! john, we may not have agreed on a couple of things a week or so ago but, is not the idea of Linux to a point total and utter customisability in as much as you can do wtf u need to be able to suit your purpose? at least that in part is what I thought running Linux was about, look quit bitching about the spam, personally, if someone wants to send spam about someone blowing a horse or some other sick crap like that there's an interesting function you should read about. it's called delete. christ sakes people, couple extra key strokes or a click of a mouse and a press of a key and it's gone. best fucken spam filter around. -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Yuk
Boys boys boys!!! John was only expressing his dislike for such spams... I'm sure he appreciates the efforts of the admins as much as the rest of us do... he didn't exactly go overboard, nor abuse anyone... basically asking if there was anything being done to solve the problem, with a hint of disgust at the content... He now has his answer that yes, things are being done and are 99% successful - no need to bite back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:48 PM To: John Clarke Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Yuk at the risk of being helpful, John Clarke delivered up the following on Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 12:16:08PM +1000, On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:10:00AM +1000, Richard Ames wrote: They should be filtered before the listserver. We had this discussion a couple of weeks ago. All of you, stop whinging about the tiny bit of spam that makes it through the list filters. Something like 99% or more of spam *is* stopped at the list server, thanks to the efforts of the admins. The list admins, all unpaid volunteers, do a great job and should not have to listen to whiny gits who can't be bothered running their own spam filter and expect someone else to protect them. Or better yet --- member only. We've had this discussion too. It's not going to happen. You asked for this a couple of weeks ago and were told so then, what makes you think the answer's going to be any different this time? HERE HERE!! john, we may not have agreed on a couple of things a week or so ago but, is not the idea of Linux to a point total and utter customisability in as much as you can do wtf u need to be able to suit your purpose? at least that in part is what I thought running Linux was about, look quit bitching about the spam, personally, if someone wants to send spam about someone blowing a horse or some other sick crap like that there's an interesting function you should read about. it's called delete. christ sakes people, couple extra key strokes or a click of a mouse and a press of a key and it's gone. best fucken spam filter around. -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
ah. I see what's happened here, and that's partly my fault. my email wasn't directed at john entirely. whilst I agreed with what he had to say, the rest of the content was directed at those who complained about the spam in the first place. so that was my mistake for not differentiating the 2. my apologies -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Perl Training Australia - Welcome to Perl Courses
[This email is being sent with the blessings of the SLUG committee] G'day folks, Perl Training Australia is about to run some public courses, and since we're telling everyone else about these, I thought I should let you all know as well. We're offering an additional[1] discount to those people who mention SLUG when making their booking. This discount saves $50 per person on our Introduction to Perl course and $30 per person on our Intermediate course. If you book and pay before the early bird discount dates (see below) you will get a further discount per person. [1] (We're making this offer to a few other user groups as well. This additional discount is applicable once only, so mentioning SLUG and Perl Mongers and the others will still only give you it once. I'm really sorry if you receive this email too many times because you're associated with all of the above groups.) Bookings can be made at http://www.perltraining.com.au/bookings.html Perl Training Australia - Welcome to Perl Courses Perl Training Australia will be running public courses in Sydney on the following dates: Introduction to Perl- Thursday 27 - Friday 28 November 2003 Intermediate Perl - Friday 5th December 2003 Courses start at 9:00am and finish at 5:00pm. There will be breaks for morning and afternoon teas as well as a 60 minute break for lunch. Lunch will be provided. These courses will be held at the Univeristy of Technology Sydney No 1 Broadway Ultimo NSW Perl Training Australia believes that the best way to teach Perl is to allow participants to experiment with each new concept as it's being taught. As a result these are hands-on courses, with participants using workstations provided to complete a number of programming exercises throughout the day. Each course participant will receive the following on the day: * Bound course notes * Floppy disk of exercises and answers for later reference * Certificate of course completion. Course costs are $1100 per person for the Introduction to Perl course and $660 per person for the Intermediate Perl course. A early bird discount of $100 per person for the Introduction to Perl course and $60 per person for the Intermediate course applies if payment is received on or before the following dates: - Introduction to Perl - Friday 31st October. - Intermediate Perl- Friday 7th October. Further discounts apply to bookings of 3 or more people. To register your interest in any of these courses please visit our booking page at http://www.perltraining.com.au/bookings.html Please note that places will be limited and bookings are on a first-come first-served basis. Perl Training Australia will be running further courses in both Melbourne and Sydney over the coming months, so please feel free to register your interest if you cannot make these dates. All the best, Jacinta Richardson -- (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia| (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +613 9354 6001 | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 05:35:10PM -0700, Jared Pritchard wrote: John was only expressing his dislike for such spams... Now go back and READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. Do you see where you went wrong? If not, go back and READ IT AGAIN. Repeat as many times as necessary. I DID NOT complain about the spam. John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] YahooIM Protocol
On Fri 26 Sep, James Gray bloviated thus: Quick question. Has Yahoo changed their IM protocol? Yes. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,39020369,39116464,00.htm Pretty rich coming from an IM network that isn't particularly popular. I only know one person who uses it. That person will be strongly encouraged to move to something else. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net There's no 'I' in 'team'. But then there's no 'I' in 'useless smug colleague', either. And there's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. Go figure. - David Brent, The Office -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Porn spam
Hello sluggers, Is there a way to expunge this from our lists? Before it goes to print... Regards, Nicholas Tomlin. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Yuk
Richard, I have been suggesting a member only posting list for at least a year, and was always shot down in flames by Jeff, saying that the members didn't want it. What I propose is that we have an anyone can read, only members can post list - if people who are reading the list can't be bothered joining to be able to post, then I question the necessity of having them post at all. Flames /dev/null Jon --- semper in excreto es sed profundum variat -= The problem with this rational is that you did recieve them -= and pay for -= the bandwidth. -= -= They should be filtered before the listserver. -= -= Or better yet --- member only. -= -= Richard. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Yuk
-= All of you, stop whinging about the tiny bit of spam that -= makes it through the list filters. Something like 99% or -= more of spam *is* stopped at the list server, thanks to the -= efforts of the admins. -= -= The list admins, all unpaid volunteers, do a great job and -= should not have to listen to whiny gits who can't be -= bothered running their own spam filter and expect someone -= else to protect them. I beg your pardon ? Tiny ? Well, if you call 50+ in the last two weeks tiny, I guess that's so... Anyway, who made you the bloody mailing list police ? Some of us whiny gits, as you so eloquently put it, have to PAY for the data we download over piss-poor 56k dial-up connections. Not EVERYONE has the luxury of ADSL or CABLE. I get more spam from this list than any other I'm on. John, sounds like you've been taking personality lessons from Jeff...:-) Try taking your head out of your ass for a change. -= -= Or better yet --- member only. -= -= We've had this discussion too. It's not going to happen. -= You asked for this a couple of weeks ago and were told so -= then, what makes you think the answer's going to be any -= different this time? Jeff's gone Yes, the admins are volunteers, and a members-only list would LESSEN the workload, not increase it. If you can't see that then maybe you should go back to Windows... You're obviously too THINK to use Linux ! Oh, before I forget; cat flames /dev/crapper Jon --- semper in excreto es sed profundum variat -= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Results of election of new committee members
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003, Mary Gardiner wrote: Ben Leslie and Michael Kortvelyesy were elected unopposed to the two vacant SLUG committee positions at this evening's SLUG meeting. Congratulations to Benno and Michael. And I intended to say that Chris Deigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] has also been added to the committee list as an unofficial honourary committee member. Chris has been doing a lot of behind the scenes work for SLUG lately, and the committee is looking forward to having him help us out :) -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Results of election of new committee members
Ben Leslie and Michael Kortvelyesy were elected unopposed to the two vacant SLUG committee positions at this evening's SLUG meeting. Congratulations to Benno and Michael. The complete SLUG committee is now: President: Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice-President: Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Secretary: Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Treasurer: Jamie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other members: Jaime Hemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Kortvelyesy [EMAIL PROTECTED] The entire committee can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you to Jeff Waugh and Tony Green, outgoing President and Vice-President, for their work on the SLUG committee. Mary Gardiner, SLUG Secretary. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] This list has changed for the worst
Hi all, I'm not far from Sydney, so if anyone takes exception to this critisim, I can easily make the next SLUG meeting. There are no FLAMERS on this post, hasn't been, shouldn't be. If you take exception to what is said in an email, leave it be... kick the dog, beat your partner, or whatever else you need to do to boost your ego. Don't infect the list with faceless, gutless rubbish. (ref to paragraph 1) This list is for people who; a. Are advanced enough to actually confuse the rest of us when they have problems b. Are advanced enough to actually help newbies when they are not helping each other. When I see take your head out of your arse on the SLUG mailing list, I know we have problems. That's Microsoft talk for I found the command line, nah nah! SLUG is above all that, Slug is about helping and nurturing a growing community. Slug is the public face of Linux for alot of Sydneysiders (and possibly much further a field). Slug is where you turn when Debian bites you on the arse and you somehow manage to get Pine or Mutt to send a big Linux SOS. If this mailing list degrades into some windows orientated flame war with a lot half wit know it alls telling people off because they know better, then I'll go back to using windows where I can avoid/ don't need to contact/associate/speak/type messages to people like that. So will alot of other people. Get it together SLUG, we depend on you, we depend on your knowledgable members and we more than ever we need a sense of community. Like I said, I am available anytime ... Flame this post and you'd better have it to front the next slug meeting, otherwise, your just datavapour ... For all who have kept the faith, and especially for our departing el presidenti and vice Brave, Encore, Encore, Encore! Mick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
On Friday 26 September 2003 11:33 am, Jon Biddell wrote: Richard, I have been suggesting a member only posting list for at least a year, and was always shot down in flames by Jeff, saying that the members didn't want it. What I propose is that we have an anyone can read, only members can post list - if people who are reading the list can't be bothered joining to be able to post, then I question the necessity of having them post at all. Flames /dev/null Jon What about combining the two? - Just direct the public posts to a directory vetted by a volunteer, who then sends on to the private list. All non-relevant public posts are then trashed. If the same public posters are then posting often, they can be invited to join. (The vetting job could be rotated every few months, to be less onerous.) regards Doug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
On Friday 26 September 2003 03:12 pm, Jon Biddell wrote: -= All of you, stop whinging about the tiny bit of spam that tiny, I guess that's so... Anyway, who made you the bloody mailing list police ? Some of us whiny gits, as you so eloquently put it, have to PAY for the data we download over piss-poor 56k dial-up connections. Not EVERYONE has the luxury of ADSL or CABLE. I download on a 56K modem. The mail takes a small amount of time to download, [EMAIL PROTECTED] all. One month, my family downloaded 3.2G (total traffic), which must be approaching the theoretical limit. Connected almost full time, sitting behind a IPCop f/w. Lucky city-ites with cable ADSL. All country options to 56K are too expensive, including ISDN, which currently has a 30c/hr connect fee, which I think is discrimination cf ADSL. Moaning Null, regards Doug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] This list has changed for the worst
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 01:45, Mick wrote: Hi all, I'm not far from Sydney, so if anyone takes exception to this critisim, I can easily make the next SLUG meeting. There are no FLAMERS on this post, hasn't been, shouldn't be. If you take exception to what is said in an email, leave it be... kick the dog, beat your partner, or whatever else you need to do to boost your ego. Don't infect the list with faceless, gutless rubbish. (ref to paragraph 1) This list is for people who; a. Are advanced enough to actually confuse the rest of us when they have problems b. Are advanced enough to actually help newbies when they are not helping each other. When I see take your head out of your arse on the SLUG mailing list, I know we have problems. That's Microsoft talk for I found the command line, nah nah! SLUG is above all that, Slug is about helping and nurturing a growing community. Slug is the public face of Linux for alot of Sydneysiders (and possibly much further a field). Slug is where you turn when Debian bites you on the arse and you somehow manage to get Pine or Mutt to send a big Linux SOS. If this mailing list degrades into some windows orientated flame war with a lot half wit know it alls telling people off because they know better, then I'll go back to using windows where I can avoid/ don't need to contact/associate/speak/type messages to people like that. So will alot of other people. Get it together SLUG, we depend on you, we depend on your knowledgable members and we more than ever we need a sense of community. Like I said, I am available anytime ... Flame this post and you'd better have it to front the next slug meeting, otherwise, your just datavapour ... For all who have kept the faith, and especially for our departing el presidenti and vice Brave, Encore, Encore, Encore! Mick Thanks for the post, Mick. I've been subscribed to this list for only 24 hours, but had almost had enough of the whole Re: [SLUG] Yuk flamewar... Having only been subscribed to the debian-user list, where you're (just about) guaranteed better treatment than what I've seen so far, I was pretty close to firing off that unsub to Slug. Just glad to see not everyone's out for a flame fest! Regards Damien -- ~~ Using Linux on the Inspiron 1100: http://geocities.com/randomnumbergenerator2001/ *regularly updated* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RE spam: Lisa sucks=3, Yuk=17
I'm hoping that the obove score will make a point. I'm also amused to see that Lisa made it into the SLUG archive ;-) This was particularly useful for me, because my spamassassin trapped Lisa, so I had no idea what the fuss had been about. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk
doug foskey wrote:
Lucky city-ites with cable ADSL.
Most people in the city can not get ADSL either.
a) Because they are too far from an exchange and
b) The technology only allows a few adsl services in each cable.
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RE: [SLUG] Yuk
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 15:12, Jon Biddell wrote: I apologise for posting this to SLUG, but since I know Jon would 'accidentally' post it there when he responds anyway, it seemed worthwhile. John, sounds like you've been taking personality lessons from Jeff...:-) Try taking your head out of your ass for a change. Jon, please grow up. Jeff's gone Well, it looks like I lost that bet. I had it as 4 days before you made some snide remark about the departing committee members. One of the advantages at no longer being VP is that I can say what I think now. Put up or shut up. If you think SLUG was being run poorly, why not get up off your backside and nominate yourself to the committee? Do something about it, or is it more fun to sit there and moan about how other people do things? Yes, the admins are volunteers, and a members-only list would LESSEN the workload, not increase it. If you can't see that then maybe you should go back to Windows... You're obviously too THINK to use Linux ! If and when the list policy changes, I'm sure it will come from a consensus from the financial members. Details for actually becoming a financial member can be found here btw : http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html I would welcome such a vote, to put an end to the bi-weekly flamewars that seem to be occuring. I have no real feelings one way or the other, but I do feel that if the policy changes it should be down to full members to make the call. The committee do run all of SLUG, not just the mailing lists. It's not an easy job and it takes a lot of time. It's made a lot harder by the lack of understanding and support from the people on the list. If you don't like something on the list, you have a few options *) Change it yourself (Install spamassassin to catch the spams) *) Try to get enough support so that the list policy is changed *) Leave the list *) Live with it I don't see many people complaining about it. Yes there are a few SPAM and the ctte are working hard to resolve them. Moving to a closed list is being investigated and a number of good suggestions for improvements have been posted to the ctte list. Oh, before I forget; cat flames /dev/crapper http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=linux+advocacy+for+dummiesbtnG=Google+Searchmeta= Jon, you REALLY need to get out more. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk
doug foskey wrote: Lucky city-ites with cable ADSL. Most people in the city can not get ADSL either. a) Because they are too far from an exchange and b) The technology only allows a few adsl services in each cable. How about making a little research and try WIRELESS. Check, http://www.nodedb.com/australia/nsw/sydney/ More and more hobbyist are only willing to share resources. Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] trouble booting.....Mounting local filesystems
Hi people, Ive done something stupid to my /etc/fstab. I made some changes because I wasnt having much luck getting supermount to work. Anyway after a reboot, I found my system now hangs at the stage where it says Mounting local filesystems, and I cant find a way to bypass this. Ive left the machine for quite some time hoping it might pull through but no luck Ive tried using programs for Windows to read the ext2 partition so that I can copy /etc/fstab to windows, edit the file, and then copy it back to the ext2 partition, but Im not having any luck copying it back. Ive tried booting a Slackware Linux installation cd-rom, gone to a terminal and tried mounting /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1 but I get errors telling me theres either too many filesystems mounted, theres a bad superblock, its the wrong fs type, etc So can anyone think of any other ways I could fix the problem? Im using Mandrake 9.1 by the way. Thanks very much, Chris Barnes. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] trouble booting.....Mounting local filesystems
pass init=/bin/sh to your kernel boot line (using grub or lilo) then do mount -n -o remount,rw / vi /etc/fstab mount -n -o remount,ro / Dave. On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Chris Barnes wrote: Hi people, I've done something stupid to my /etc/fstab. I made some changes because I wasn't having much luck getting supermount to work. Anyway after a reboot, I found my system now hangs at the stage where it says Mounting local filesystems, and I cant find a way to bypass this. I've left the machine for quite some time hoping it might pull through but no luck. I've tried using programs for Windows to read the ext2 partition so that I can copy /etc/fstab to windows, edit the file, and then copy it back to the ext2 partition, but I'm not having any luck copying it back. I've tried booting a Slackware Linux installation cd-rom, gone to a terminal and tried mounting /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1 but I get errors telling me there's either too many filesystems mounted, theres a bad superblock, it's the wrong fs type, etc. So can anyone think of any other ways I could fix the problem? I'm using Mandrake 9.1 by the way. Thanks very much, Chris Barnes. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] trouble booting.....Mounting local filesystems
Chris Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi people, I've done something stupid to my /etc/fstab. I made some changes because I wasn't having much luck getting supermount to work. Anyway after a reboot, I found my system now hangs at the stage where it says Mounting local filesystems, and I cant find a way to bypass this. I've left the machine for quite some time hoping it might pull through but no luck. try booting in to single user mode by interrupting your boot loader and passing 1 or single as an argument to your kernel, usually; linux 1 That might not work, though, so try a larger hammer linux init=/bin/bash Then at the command prompt mount -o remount,rw / if fstab is broken you might need to specify the device, ie mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 fix fstab umount -a If paranoid, touch /test to confirm read only. reboot. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
I think people have to realise (and I didn't really want to enter this thread but what the hell), that connecting to the Internet and mailing lists means you will get some spam, deal with it, if you want to be on SLUG live with the fact that unless you can do better (and step up) the admins are doing what they can, Every mailing list I've ever been on has these debates and they are mostly pointless and bandwidth wasting .. The ILUG (Irish LUG) has this at least once a year I'd say, and the policy is simple , if a list is to help new users, they should easily be able to post to it .. moderation is a bloody hassle, and unless someone is willing to stop complaining and volunteer their time to moderate the postings at a decent rate, some spam will get through, and thank God your not me, I get on average 100 Spams a day, 30-40 to /dev/null, 30-40 to my spam folder, and 10-20 to my INBOX, my current spam folder is over 5000 messages (anyone wanna train their bayes filter..) and that is since July (and I delete a few hundred when I'm bored at work).. Dave. On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Richard Ames wrote: The problem with this rational is that you did recieve them and pay for the bandwidth. They should be filtered before the listserver. Or better yet --- member only. Richard. On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Kevin Saenz wrote: Ok I just had a look in my spam folder. Implement spamassassin, then you may limit the amount of spam arriving in your mailbox :) I received two or three just yesterday via SLUG list cut -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Net connection: welcome to debian/credativ/whatever
Hello, I'm writing from my parent's box which is running RH9 Gnome on the desktop, which incidentally as self-proclaimed 'proud luddites' they both absolutely love using in comparison to the other computing alternatives they have tried previously. The box hooks up to the net with Telstra big pond cable, which goes ok. My problem is this, I once hooked up my laptop running debian to the same modem, which then seemed to re-name the connection to 'debian' the login screen on red hat said welcome to debain then logging into gnome said it was unable to resolve 'debian' and to add debian to /etc/hosts. (which I did) I then booted Gnoppix on their box to see how that went, and the connection was renamed credativ and the same error message. Obviously I have no clue about what I'm doing here, ideally I'd like to be able to give the connection/computer a name on boot from RH9 something like Mum Dad's box or just Ashburner Any suggestions? /etc/hosts now looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost debian hostname.domain.com Link 144.136.71.171 debian hostname.domain.com Link 144.136.71.171 credativ hostname.domain.com Thanks SLUG Hal PS as a non-professional Linux user who has only recently started coming along to slug meetings and reading the mailing list, can I just say it is fantastic and very rewarding. Thank you to all concerned. -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] TeXmacs
Has anyone had any experience with TeXmacs? Good, bad, indifferent? Cheers, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk
Oscar Plameras wrote:
This is not a personal attack on anyone!
doug foskey wrote:
Lucky city-ites with cable ADSL.
Most people in the city can not get ADSL either.
a) Because they are too far from an exchange and
b) The technology only allows a few adsl services in each cable.
How about making a little research and try WIRELESS. Check,
http://www.nodedb.com/australia/nsw/sydney/
Yep, that is pretty good advice about research {;-).
We are talking 802.11b, which is 11 channels of 10Mb/sec stuff (on a
good, clear day) less that taken up by mobile base phones, toys,
garage door controllers, etc, etc, then divided by the population of
Sydney!
Dang that old 300 baud modem is starting to look really fast folks.
The limiting problem on wireless technology is to get the bandwidth for
everyone, you end up frying the user. Wireless works well in an open
office.
More and more hobbyist are only willing to share resources.
You obviously have never frequented the australian wireless list where
you would be told time and time again that this sort of activity is
illegal and you need a carrier liscence (sp?) for it.
Been there, done that, have 7 listings in the node list, got the
t-shirt, ran the WUG, gotta better things to do, i.e. I got fed up with
people who didn't get past the sales brouchure from the wireless sleazes
and had NAC (not a clue).
And I still haven't solved the problem of how to legally get a 10 metre
mast up to service the one person 3kms away (who can not get adsl) with
a clue.
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Re: [SLUG] trouble booting.....Mounting local filesystems
you could try and boot in single mode. I don't know if you would be able to do anything if you have killed fstab. Also you could try rescue boot, usually available in most distros. Hi people, Ive done something stupid to my /etc/fstab. I made some changes because I wasnt having much luck getting supermount to work. Anyway after a reboot, I found my system now hangs at the stage where it says Mounting local filesystems, and I cant find a way to bypass this. Ive left the machine for quite some time hoping it might pull through but no luck Ive tried using programs for Windows to read the ext2 partition so that I can copy /etc/fstab to windows, edit the file, and then copy it back to the ext2 partition, but Im not having any luck copying it back. Ive tried booting a Slackware Linux installation cd-rom, gone to a terminal and tried mounting /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1 but I get errors telling me theres either too many filesystems mounted, theres a bad superblock, its the wrong fs type, etc So can anyone think of any other ways I could fix the problem? Im using Mandrake 9.1 by the way. Thanks very much, Chris Barnes. __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk
Oscar Plameras wrote:
This is not a personal attack on anyone!
doug foskey wrote:
Lucky city-ites with cable ADSL.
Most people in the city can not get ADSL either.
a) Because they are too far from an exchange and
b) The technology only allows a few adsl services in each cable.
How about making a little research and try WIRELESS. Check,
http://www.nodedb.com/australia/nsw/sydney/
Yep, that is pretty good advice about research {;-).
We are talking 802.11b, which is 11 channels of 10Mb/sec stuff (on a
good, clear day) less that taken up by mobile base phones, toys,
garage door controllers, etc, etc, then divided by the population of
Sydney!
Do not channels ('or freeways on AIR') multiplexed ('or shared')
instead of dedicated ?
Dang that old 300 baud modem is starting to look really fast folks.
The limiting problem on wireless technology is to get the bandwidth for
everyone, you end up frying the user. Wireless works well in an open
office.
Because data and voice traffic multiplexed it is incorrect to assign
bandwidth on a one-to-one correspondence.
More and more hobbyist are only willing to share resources.
You obviously have never frequented the australian wireless list where
you would be told time and time again that this sort of activity is
illegal and you need a carrier liscence (sp?) for it.
Without being cynical can you advise which legal document says
operating 802.11b would require some form of 'carrier license' ?
Is a 'carrier license' required to install a remote garage or gate
control, etc.?
Been there, done that, have 7 listings in the node list, got the
t-shirt, ran the WUG, gotta better things to do, i.e. I got fed up with
people who didn't get past the sales brouchure from the wireless sleazes
and had NAC (not a clue).
And I still haven't solved the problem of how to legally get a 10 metre
mast up to service the one person 3kms away (who can not get adsl) with
a clue.
Can you elaborate why ? Is it cost ? Is it technical ? Is it logistics ?
The attitude should be that I'm not discouraged just because someone
tells me it is not possible.
Oscar Plameras
http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html
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