[SLUG] MS Powerpoint is a killer
OVER-RELIANCE ON POWERPOINT LEADS TO SIMPLISTIC THINKING NASA's Columbia Accident Investigation Board has fingered the agency's over-reliance on Microsoft PowerPoint presentations as one of the elements leading to last February's shuttle disaster. The Board's report notes that NASA engineers tasked with assessing possible wing damage during the mission presented their findings in a confusing PowerPoint slide so crammed with bulleted items that it was almost impossible to analyze. It is easy to understand how a senior manager might read this PowerPoint slide and not realize that it addresses a life-threatening situation, says the report. NASA's findings are echoed in a pamphlet titled The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint, authored by information presentation theorist Edward Tufte, who says the software forces users to contort data beyond reasonable comprehension. Because only about 40 words fit on each slide, a viewer can zip through a series of slides quickly, spending barely 8 seconds on each one. And the format encourages bulleted lists -- a faux analytical technique that sidesteps the presenter's responsibility to link the information together in a cohesive argument, according to Tufte, who concludes that ultimately, PowerPoint software oozes an attitude of commercialism that turns everything into a sales pitch. (New York Times 14 Dec 2003) -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Powerpoint is a killer
I've been looking for the Shakespeare Powerpoint presentation which does Shakespeare's great monologues as dodgy powerpoint slides. A great example of how NOT to use Powerpoint. It did the rounds a few years back but now I can't find it :( Any ideas? -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, now would it? - Albert Einstein -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Powerpoint is a killer
quote who=Rev Simon Rumble I've been looking for the Shakespeare Powerpoint presentation which does Shakespeare's great monologues as dodgy powerpoint slides. A great example of how NOT to use Powerpoint. It did the rounds a few years back but now I can't find it :( Any ideas? You might find it on... slug-chat! ;-) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ Learning and doing is the true spirit of free software -- learning without doing gets you academic sterility, and doing without learning is all too often the way things are done in proprietary software. - Raph Levien -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] gnome terminal vs konsole
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:57:28 +1100 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you echo the input of one tab to all the tabs? konsole has this handy feature where one tab can be like the master, and whatever you type in there gets typed in all the konsoles. useful for admining lots of boxes at once :) That's... well, I would call it a horrific idea. There are better ways of doing these kinds of admin tasks than having crackrock features in your terminal emulator (expect, cfengine, and so on). I don't think it's that bad. FWIW, the Sun Solaris cluster product has this feature where one terminal's commands get sent to each/all of the cluster's individual machines. Useful for keeping them all in sync. Bit featuritis p'raps. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dd speed (copying whole disks)
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:12:24 +1100 Bret Comstock Waldow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 20G disk copies in 2 hours and 40 minutes. I've experimented with Mine took 15 minutes for 6.4Gb. (athlon 1700+, dma4 disks) Why do people dd disks anyway. There's a few pitfalls such as duplicate serial numbers, duplicate mac addresses. (yes, sometimes mac addresses are stored in file base configuration) tar/dump/cpio are faster and more flexible. Matt ps. i had a specific data recovery purpose in my exercise -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] mkisofs 2GB file size limit, plus ramblings
Anyone else noticed this? It looks like mkisofs has a 2GB max file size limit - it will not write files that size. This means you can't write a DVD iso image, either! This seems like a serious limitation. Maybe I've misunderstood, though? $ growisofs -Z /dev/dvdrw -quiet -J -T -R -V 0.1.00 -r . Executing 'mkisofs -quiet -J -T -R -V 0.1.00 -r . | builtin_dd of=/dev/dvdrw obs=32k seek=0' mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File ./cpio-bkp is too large - ignoring The same thing happens if I try -udf instead of -J and/or -R. $ find /usr/include/ -type f -print | xargs grep Value too large for defined data type /usr/include/asm/errno.h:#defineEOVERFLOW 75 /* Value too large for defined data type */ Also, when it does, this, growisofs does not return an error exit code, it returns 0, as if it were successful. (So backups fail without being detected.) $ growisofs --version * growisofs by [EMAIL PROTECTED], version 5.14, front-ending to mkisofs: mkisofs 2.0.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) The file I'm trying to write is a 4GB cpio file, for backups. This is under Linux kernel 2.4.23. The workaround I used was to copy the files for backup to a separate area, rather than storing them in a cpio archive. This does mean you can only fit about 3.9GB of files on a 4.7GB disc (guess ext3 is a more compact format than ISO9660), plus you're not guaranteed to be able to store all ownership. permission, etc. info. Changing over to use DVDs for backups was an interesting exercise. I learned about the strtoul() function, and realised that 4.7GB 2^32, so had to limit my backup calculations to MAXINT. (I guess a better fix would be to reduce the precision of my units from bytes to 1kB blocks.) The thing that's going to push everyone to 64 bit platforms is storage media, I reckon. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mkisofs 2GB file size limit, plus ramblings
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like mkisofs has a 2GB max file size limit Surely that's your filesystem... - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ Perl - The Movie Starring 'Weird' Al Yankovic -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mkisofs 2GB file size limit, plus ramblings
On 16 Dec, Jeff Waugh wrote: It looks like mkisofs has a 2GB max file size limit Surely that's your filesystem... No, the file is 4.2GB in size. The error message comes from mkisofs. : /data/cdimages/tmp; ls -l total 4092696 -rw-r--r--1 root root 4186821632 Dec 14 23:13 cpio-bkp I did a Google search, and found a few other people have been discovering this over the last year or so. I didn't see any solution mentioned. There's a page that describes the UDF file format for DVDs, which states that it's not a problem with the UDF spec, but that most software (Windows included) can't write a file bigger than 2GB. Presumably because they've used signed 32 bit ints in their code. There was one mention of someone who used dvdrecord to write a 4GB file once. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mkisofs 2GB file size limit, plus ramblings
I found this a while back when I attempted to use a DVD for backups. In the end I just split the 2gig file into 2gig chunks and worked it like that. From memory, it was the ISO9660 standard that caused the 2gig limit, but my memory has been off in the past. If you've got a DVD+RW capable (and linux supported) drive you could probably format the disc as ext3 and then dump your large file onto it that way. Downside to this is that you won't be able to read it on many machines. -Piers. On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 23:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Dec, Jeff Waugh wrote: It looks like mkisofs has a 2GB max file size limit Surely that's your filesystem... No, the file is 4.2GB in size. The error message comes from mkisofs. : /data/cdimages/tmp; ls -l total 4092696 -rw-r--r--1 root root 4186821632 Dec 14 23:13 cpio-bkp I did a Google search, and found a few other people have been discovering this over the last year or so. I didn't see any solution mentioned. There's a page that describes the UDF file format for DVDs, which states that it's not a problem with the UDF spec, but that most software (Windows included) can't write a file bigger than 2GB. Presumably because they've used signed 32 bit ints in their code. There was one mention of someone who used dvdrecord to write a 4GB file once. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mkisofs 2GB file size limit, plus ramblings
Dear Luke, Hi, did you use the latest version of Mkisofs and compile it? ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/cdrtools-beta.tar.gz I tested it last night, with a huge file ie 4Gb and it created an ISO for me okay. Using the most recent version and/or source, might work for you too and ensure that -DUSE_LARGEFILES is defined (which it should be by default, iirc) kind regards, Norman On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else noticed this? It looks like mkisofs has a 2GB max file size limit - it will not write files that size. This means you can't write a DVD iso image, either! This seems like a serious limitation. Maybe I've misunderstood, though? -- Epsilon-6! Ph:+612 8807-4780 Fax: +612 8807-4498 E-Solutions for BSD and Linux http://www.paladincorp.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dd speed (copying whole disks)
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 22:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:12:24 +1100 Bret Comstock Waldow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 20G disk copies in 2 hours and 40 minutes. I've experimented with Mine took 15 minutes for 6.4Gb. (athlon 1700+, dma4 disks) Why do people dd disks anyway. In my case it's my backup method, so duplicates are in fact the idea in the first place. There's a few pitfalls such as duplicate serial numbers, duplicate mac addresses. (yes, sometimes mac addresses are stored in file base configuration) tar/dump/cpio are faster and more flexible. dd gets any partition changes I've made. I'm using PartitionMagic, and slowly shrinking my Window$ partition, and occassionally making other changes. Matt ps. i had a specific data recovery purpose in my exercise Me too. Cheers, Bret -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During the printing process, gs seems to take up full processor capacity, but we've seen this perform better on slower processors. We've tried the file with or without graphics; the time quoted is for the no graphics version, but there doesn't appear to be much difference. Can anyone explain this, or suggest ways of speeding it up? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RE: more smoothwall questions.
Shaun, ok my reason for this post is 2 fold. 1. first and foremost can one get an indication of one's linespeed with smoothwall if so how or where, 2. I'm seriously considering optus cable within the next few months. how can I set it up to be accessable by all the computers on my network? or, can I just connect it to the uplink on my hub I have here and designate 1 machine as the router? You connect the hub to the green NIC in smoothie and the cable modem to the red NIC. Give smoothie an address of (say) 192.168.1.1 and then specify it as the gateway for all the other PCs on your network. In your browsers specify the use of a proxy server with address 192.168.1.1 The smoothwall documentation is pretty good and there is also a good chat link for deeper issues. See http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=12sid=8288ec329b56787157155b7b726fd550 Hope this helps David thanks in advance for any and all answers. -- Shaun Oliver -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Powerpoint is a killer
Gottfried Szing wrote: Kevin Waterson wrote: OVER-RELIANCE ON POWERPOINT LEADS TO SIMPLISTIC THINKING NASA's Columbia Accident Investigation Board has fingered the agency's over-reliance on Microsoft PowerPoint presentations as one of the elements leading to last February's shuttle disaster. The Board's [cut cut] s/power point/tool for creating presentations/ig i am new on the list an maybe this is the wrong place to defend MS; but in this case the word powerpoint should replaced with tool for creating presentations. IMHO is not the tool the problem, it is a problem that everyone want to behave like a manager and create presentations. because presentations are a sign for superior knowledge and management. just my 2euro-cents, gottfried I'm inclined to agree with you on that point. Whether it's PowerPoint or OO Impress, the same problems are common on both. The main problem seems to be between keyboard and chair. :P I've seen some very good use of digital slide presentations but mostly it's just a wank; Hey look at this - every time I reveal a new element on every slide you get to hear 'whoosh'! *ugh*. Matt Palmer: You ever attended one of Ping Yu's lectures?? Talk about death by PowerPoint!! Now remember all: KISS --James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Powerpoint is a killer
Matt Palmer: You ever attended one of Ping Yu's lectures?? Talk about death by PowerPoint!! Tell me about death by powerpoint, you haven't seen a presentation done in flash or something similar. Especially when they implement music if you want to call it that. They don't take into consideration musical tastes of the general populous, it pretty much I like the beat stuff everyone else. Then they wonder why their pitch doesn't work. -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Powerpoint is a killer
On Wed Dec 17, 2003 at 11:16:49 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:38:03AM +1100, James Gray wrote: I'm inclined to agree with you on that point. Whether it's PowerPoint or OO Impress, the same problems are common on both. The main problem seems to be between keyboard and chair. :P I've seen some very good use of digital slide presentations but mostly it's just a wank; Hey look at this - every time I reveal a new element on every slide you get to hear 'whoosh'! *ugh*. I note that Uni lecturers seem to be the worst. My theory is that there is a total lack of content, so to hold the interest level (yeah, right) they just pile on the chrome. Wow, I have only had that experience in one or two courses, (and I've been enrolled in a lot of courses ;). Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mkisofs 2GB file size limit, plus ramblings
lukekendall == lukekendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lukekendall On 16 Dec, Jeff Waugh wrote: It looks like mkisofs has a 2GB max file size limit Surely that's your filesystem... lukekendall No, the file is 4.2GB in size. The error message comes lukekendall from mkisofs. Sounds like your version of mkisofs has been compiled without -D_LARGEFILE64_SRC (or the equivalent featureset selector). You could do: mkisofs ... -split-output -ofoo to generate your image in 1G chunks, then cat them together. -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
Edwin == Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edwin We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; Edwin it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to Edwin prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During Are you running out of memory? -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
The box has 128Mb RAM. It's running pgsql, apache, named, squid, ssh, sendmail, dhcpd, samba, and a couple of small proprietary routing aps; not X, so unless gs is extremely memory hungry, I would have thought it's OK. On 17 Dec 2003 at 11:27, Peter Chubb wrote: Edwin == Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edwin We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; Edwin it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to Edwin prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During Are you running out of memory? -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
Memory usage 16.5%, processor usage 95.2% On 17 Dec 2003 at 11:27, Peter Chubb wrote: Edwin == Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edwin We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; Edwin it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to Edwin prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During Are you running out of memory? -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
Edwin, You say that you are printing a postscript file. Do you mean that you have a postscript file that is then rendered by ghostscript to a raster (bitmap) image which is then sent to the windows printer? If this is case then you may well be needlessly invoking ghostscript, particularly if your windows printer already supports native postscript printing. You probably want to arrange your printer filters (the magic that cups or lpr uses) so that postscript is passed directly through without processing. (Ghostscript /postscript is really optimised for text and vector rendering rather than processing bitmaps. But it is the common page description language that we have. Particular with graphics if you can avoid scaling computation performance will be a lot better. Whether you actually can control that is another matter) Martin Martin Visser ,CISSP Network and Security Consultant Technology Infrastructure - Consulting Integration HP Services 3 Richardson Place North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia Phone *: +61-2-9022-1670Mobile *: +61-411-254-513 Fax 7: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail * : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Humphries Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During the printing process, gs seems to take up full processor capacity, but we've seen this perform better on slower processors. We've tried the file with or without graphics; the time quoted is for the no graphics version, but there doesn't appear to be much difference. Can anyone explain this, or suggest ways of speeding it up? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:27:59AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote: Edwin == Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edwin We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; Edwin it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to Edwin prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During Are you running out of memory? Also, the vias aren't very good on a Bang for Mhz thing. I think a 533 Via is probably equiv to a P][266. Similarly, a Centrino 1.6 beats a P4-M 2.4 and a P3-1.5 beats a P4-1.5, I think. But I'd go with Peter's memory theory. Also the newer ghostscripts are much better than the old ones (e.g. the Debian Potato version) cheers, Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Repurposing your LCA reject and other talks
Re some discussion on IRC: There's an increasingly large number of good talks being rejected from the linux.conf.au conference. If one of those talks was yours, please consider giving it at SLUG. (Accepted speakers might also like to give a talk if they think it's SLUG appropriate.) You would have to repurpose it a bit: the SLUG audience is slightly less technical on average and our talks are 30 minutes talks, but we'd love to have you. Also, if you're preparing a talk for a Free Software or other conference that is relevant to SLUG, and that you think SLUG would be interested in, offer us a talk based on that. Anyone wanting to give a talk at SLUG meetings should mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a topic and a very informal abstract (just a paragraph summary of the material and some idea of the intended audience will be fine). -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dd speed (copying whole disks)
Im copying 40g drive onto a 120g drive. I am using a CD live type linux distro. Which is SystemRescueCd I have a little theory that running top may freeze the process, because since running top once, the dd or cat process cpu time has not changed. I think my theory pulled through. I ran dd and didnt touch it and the job was done in 45mins. I then ran qtparted (run_qtparted on the CD) to resize it GUI magically. I didnt use cpio because it was NTFS. What took me 4 days initially will take me an hour now. PS i just moved here from the digest, could like the list have 'reply to list' switched on?! -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] dd speed (copying whole disks)
On Wed Dec 17, 2003 at 13:14:46 +1100, Simon Males wrote: PS i just moved here from the digest, could like the list have 'reply to list' switched on?! I take this time to introduce members to our wonderful FAQ which is at: http://www.slug.org.au/faq/, and in particular http://www.slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html#q9. Cheers, Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Delay between booting and going to gdm login screen
Hi, I recently did a clean install of RedHat 9 onto my system (and run the updates), and initially had it booting to runlevel 3. I later changed that in inittab to go to runlevel 5. Now when I boot, it stops at the terminal login screen until I press enter a few times, then it starts X and goes to the graphical login screen. This is not a case of me being impatient: if I leave it at the terminal login screen for a few hours, it will still be there. Then when I press enter a few times, it will start X and go to the graphical login screen. Any ideas? Regards, Andrew _ E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
I need to transfer a W2K HD to a new PC, totally different hardware, is there a way to do it short of re-installing W2K, or: don't waste time, just reinstall afresh all user data is on a different partition, so, fresh install is not really an issue, apart from time it takes Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Repurposing your LCA reject and other talks
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 11:50, Mary Gardiner wrote: There's an increasingly large number of good talks being rejected from the linux.conf.au conference. Hi Mary, The organisers noticed this and put on another stream. But if anyone has any good ideas for linux.conf.au 2005 then make them known as I suspect the problem is only going to get worse. Having more than four streams makes little sense and making a six-day conference longer is also problematic. We also had to reject some possibly-good presentations because people wrote poor summaries for the Call for Papers. I wrote Bogotron doesn't tell us much about the *presentation*, even if Bogotron is a well-known package. When we do the paper evaluation all we have to go on is people's CFP response, our joint memories of people's effectiveness at presenting, and whatever material is on the web. So people wanting to present at a future LCA would help us (and if the presentation is good, themselves) by presenting the material beforehand, such as to a user group. That may not be true of people wanting to speak at other conferences (some demand only unseen material). If one of those talks was yours, please consider giving it at SLUG. (Accepted speakers might also like to give a talk if they think it's SLUG appropriate.) Unlike most conferences, LCA2004 deliberately leaves the copyright with the presenter so that people can re-present their material to people that couldn't make it to LCA. Cheers, Glen One of the overworked organisers of linux.conf.au 2004. http://www.linux.conf.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
If the hardware isn't too different there may not be a problem, and it maybe just find all the hardware... I've found it's usually only a problem when moving between single and multi proccessor systems... ghost the disk first though, just in case. I've heard another way around it is to do an 'apgrade', if you have a W2K upgrade CD (eventhough it's already running W2K), and pull the disk out before it reboots. Then put it in the new system and watch it find all the hadware on it's 'first-boot' Never tried this myself though. ~~~ Im online, therefore I am! ~~~ Original Message Follows From: Voytek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Voytek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:31:59 I need to transfer a W2K HD to a new PC, totally different hardware, is there a way to do it short of re-installing W2K, or: don't waste time, just reinstall afresh all user data is on a different partition, so, fresh install is not really an issue, apart from time it takes Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html _ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Perl Array Scoping Problem
Hi,
I am currently learning Perl. I have a problem that seems to be
related to the scoping of variables. Basically the program below
breaks a string up into an array. However, the array @words does
not seem to be accessible inside the code block starting with
if ( $string = /,/ == 0 )
Presumably it's some kind of scoping problem, but I don't seem to
be able to get a coherent answer from perldoc.
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my @words = ();
my $string=This,is,separated,by,commas;
if ( $string = /,/ == 0 ) {
@words=split(/,/,$string);
}
else {
@words=split(/ /,$string);
}
my $i;
for ($i=0;$i@words;$i++) {
print($i\n);
print(@words[$i]\n);
}
---
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
cheers,
Bernard Doyle
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Re: [SLUG] Perl Array Scoping Problem
if ( $string = /,/ == 0 )
should be
if ( $string =~ /,/ )
BB
on Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 03:54:25PM +1100, Bernard Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am currently learning Perl. I have a problem that seems to be
related to the scoping of variables. Basically the program below
breaks a string up into an array. However, the array @words does
not seem to be accessible inside the code block starting with
if ( $string = /,/ == 0 )
Presumably it's some kind of scoping problem, but I don't seem to
be able to get a coherent answer from perldoc.
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my @words = ();
my $string=This,is,separated,by,commas;
if ( $string = /,/ == 0 ) {
@words=split(/,/,$string);
}
else {
@words=split(/ /,$string);
}
my $i;
for ($i=0;$i@words;$i++) {
print($i\n);
print(@words[$i]\n);
}
---
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
cheers,
Bernard Doyle
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Re: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
Eddie F wrote: If the hardware isn't too different there may not be a problem, and it maybe just find all the hardware... I've found it's usually only a problem when moving between single and multi proccessor systems... ghost the disk first though, just in case. In my experience W2k cannot handle being away from its orginial system. Ie moving a hard drive into a completly new system. Similar hardware seems logical, I think mobo is the big one. -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
In my experience W2k cannot handle being away from its orginial system. Ie moving a hard drive into a completly new system. Similar hardware seems logical, I think mobo is the big one. Linux on the other hand (and to return on topic) is just awesome in this regard. Just last week I removed my HD's from My Athlon (via chipset) workstation and installed them into my new P4 system (Intel Chipset) and.it booted and worked perfectly ! YAY Linux ! ;-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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I want to set up squid to pass all requests that it cant fulfill to my isp's non transparent proxy. Now I think the line is some thing like cache_peer proxy.my.isp.com parent 8080 0 default no-query My machine still cache still seems to connect to not the parent but goes looking for sites by it self. Any thoughts? I think it should work I've talked to my ISP and they are considering turning on ICP for me :) Can I tell my proxy to only use the proxy.my.isp.com for only some domains? Ben de Luca -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Re: [activities] Re: [SLUG] Repurposing your LCA reject and other talks
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003, Glen Turner wrote: The organisers noticed this and put on another stream. But if anyone has any good ideas for linux.conf.au 2005 then make them known as I suspect the problem is only going to get worse. Having more than four streams makes little sense and making a six-day conference longer is also problematic. I'm more familiar with academic conferences, but there doesn't appear to be any really good solution except a high reject rate. Rejected speakers then need to decide whether to resubmit elsewhere or give up on the presentation. (For some academics, conference papers are a career thing, so they usually go for repurposing.) That's why I'd like to encourage people with good material or good ideas or cool stuff to speak to the LUGs if appropriate, rather than just waiting a year to submit to l.c.a again -- since l.c.a has a high reject rate, and the LUGs are generally struggling a bit for speakers. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
