[SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. I work for a small engineering firm as a design engineer, i also have the task of being the the IT manager for our small network. Hence please bear with me if i dont make complete sense since it is not my first trade! A large percentage of our work consists generating CAD drawings and instruction sheets (document type), this results in a large number CAD files and word format files, we have quite a sensible numbering system for each job hence it is relatively easy to find jobs when the job number is known. We operate a database system which contains records of all the jobs, these are manually inputted as the job is raised. This can be searched and will display the related documents but not there location. The database is not linked to the files. Thats where the sensible part ends! All the word documents are on a central server (doubling as a desktop for me!) hence these are quickly found when looking, but all the CAD files are stored on the respective engineers PC, hence if engo A does job # 123456 all the CAD related files will be located his machine. This can get quite messy if you are looking for job files quickly, also makes files get lost easily. Now most likely people are thinking why not keep all CAD files on the central server? The primary reason for this is: if there two or three people accessing CAD files on the server machine - the server slows to a standstill and the clients machine becomes unusable, this is a result of the CAD files being quite large and fully parametric. So the solution i am looking for? - (upgrading to a faster LAN is not really an option - although i would like too!!) We wish to have the ability to search a database using multiple options (job number, keyword etc), on completion of a successful search result, the software? would display the related documents for that job, ie CAD files, word docs, pix etc. To add another dimension to it, we would also like to be able to access any of the files presented in the results immediately without having to manually go to the individual machine and locate and open the file. To be able do this would greatly reduce the time spent chasing down lost files on each machine when a query comes in from a customer- not to mention making it much easier for staff who are not familiar with all files and their location! has anyone out there implemented solutions for this type of problem? I am sure larger organisations would have solved this problem quite some time ago. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could share their expertise in this area or point me in the right direction towards learning more about this. If more information is required please do no hesitate to contact me - i hope i have made some sense in identifying our needs. gerard - Aeronautical Design Engineer Gerard Blacklock Auto Avia Design P/L Ph. 61 2 9791 0164 Fax 61 2 9791 0175 http://www.autoavia.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to investigate a possible cause: bad sectors [2], in which I managed to kill 30GB of useful data. The crashes are still occuring, and *ONLY* in Linux. My dusty ECI Client only using Windows 2000 partition has survived, which is now assisting me PuTTying. Prior applying a drastic weight plan on my hard drive my system regularly locked up and crash on Linux (post new motherboard). Although that partition is flattend, I still jump into knoppix (and variants) and experince lock ups. I was just using Knoppix to use my TV Card, and it decided to lock up, I left it locked and ran to the TV to finish whatever I was watching. Came back my system off and wouldn't power on... on closer inspection, a nice smell from the PSU. I think PSU's have a timer to allow power after a certain time as I am using it now. Now is it my motherboard not being nice to my existing PSU, or does the PSU need to leave. The PSU is 5 months old (300W). A decision I have to make tomorrow as I visit the local PC shop. [1] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00171.html [2] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00200.html -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let them hate, so long as they fear -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:00, Gerard Blacklock wrote: I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. The is called document management and work flow management and there are specialised tools that handle this. A simple solution may be storing it in CVS. The engineer then simply checks out a copy and then commit's the changes when they are complete. The system ensures that if two engineers have two copies then they can be synchronised. Now the downside, the cad diagrams don't play well with CVS. Subversion apparently has ways to help this that I have read about and never worked with. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
This one time, at band camp, Simon wrote: This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to Have you run memtest to see if it's not bad RAM causing the problems? www.memtest86.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
Gerard Blacklock wrote: Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. I work for a small engineering firm as a design engineer, i also have the task of being the the IT manager for our small network. Hence please bear with me if i dont make complete sense since it is not my first trade! A large percentage of our work consists generating CAD drawings and instruction sheets (document type), this results in a large number CAD files and word format files, we have quite a sensible numbering system for each job hence it is relatively easy to find jobs when the job number is known. We operate a database system which contains records of all the jobs, these are manually inputted as the job is raised. This can be searched and will display the related documents but not there location. The database is not linked to the files. Thats where the sensible part ends! All the word documents are on a central server (doubling as a desktop for me!) hence these are quickly found when looking, but all the CAD files are stored on the respective engineers PC, hence if engo A does job # 123456 all the CAD related files will be located his machine. This can get quite messy if you are looking for job files quickly, also makes files get lost easily. Now most likely people are thinking why not keep all CAD files on the central server? The primary reason for this is: if there two or three people accessing CAD files on the server machine - the server slows to a standstill and the clients machine becomes unusable, this is a result of the CAD files being quite large and fully parametric. So the solution i am looking for? - (upgrading to a faster LAN is not really an option - although i would like too!!) We wish to have the ability to search a database using multiple options (job number, keyword etc), on completion of a successful search result, the software? would display the related documents for that job, ie CAD files, word docs, pix etc. To add another dimension to it, we would also like to be able to access any of the files presented in the results immediately without having to manually go to the individual machine and locate and open the file. To be able do this would greatly reduce the time spent chasing down lost files on each machine when a query comes in from a customer- not to mention making it much easier for staff who are not familiar with all files and their location! has anyone out there implemented solutions for this type of problem? I am sure larger organisations would have solved this problem quite some time ago. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could share their expertise in this area or point me in the right direction towards learning more about this. If more information is required please do no hesitate to contact me - i hope i have made some sense in identifying our needs. I am not sure about the on-topic'ness of the thread, but will put in my 2c worth anyway. After open-source solutions exist for this sort of thing. There's document management systems out there that could handle this sort of thing - although don't know of any off the top of my head. You must have some sort of centrally managed storage system or you've got problems. You basically need, at the very minimum, some way of controlling where files are stored (even if on each workstation), and ensuring that the rules thereof are followed rigidly. This in itself would be near impossible in some situations. Out of interest, how are all the files backed up if they are spread out? What OS? network structure? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
I am not sure about the on-topic'ness of the thread, but will put in my 2c worth anyway. After open-source solutions exist for this sort of thing. There's document management systems out there that could handle this sort of thing - although don't know of any off the top of my head. You must have some sort of centrally managed storage system or you've got problems. You basically need, at the very minimum, some way of controlling where files are stored (even if on each workstation), and ensuring that the rules thereof are followed rigidly. This in itself would be near impossible in some situations. Out of interest, how are all the files backed up if they are spread out? What OS? network structure? Fil Phil, in regards to how we (i) backup - all machines have certian directories where job related files are kept, each machince has a backup client which sychros with my machine (server ) and another machine every hour or so, this way there is always two separate copies of everything!, most documents are weekly backed up to cd and CAD files incrementally backed up (very big). I have found this to be the most efficent way for me - however i am willing to accept any advice on that one as well!! :) OS - 1 *nix (debian) - very old P1 200 MHz - the rest windoze - this is not really by choice since CAD packages we work with are not ported to *nix The most reasonable solution seems to be a central server and a fast LAN (we only have a 10/100) and a database on it. What database packages are available to do the previously mention tasks, preferably low cost since we are by no means a large organisation! thankyou for you time gerard - Aeronautical Design Engineer Gerard Blacklock Auto Avia Design P/L Ph. 61 2 9791 0164 Fax 61 2 9791 0175 http://www.autoavia.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
I cant see a PSU deciding to smoke having to much relevance to the OS used to be honest...basically it just shouldn't smoke if its OK. To be honest I smell a rat here it could be Linux is activating something on the motherboard thats faulty that win2000 isn't thus stuffing up your PSU... without a meter and CRO I can't say with 100% surety . Also check earthing and make sure the output of the PSU is correct with a multimeter. Also beware with PSU's you DO get what you pay for Ive seen some pretty pathetic examples of 300/400w PSU's running around with caps and regulators really pushing the limit of their design. If its an OEM PSU beware there are examples running around that have the wrong pinouts on the connectors for some motherboards (bloody morons). On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 22:12, Simon wrote: This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to investigate a possible cause: bad sectors [2], in which I managed to kill 30GB of useful data. The crashes are still occuring, and *ONLY* in Linux. My dusty ECI Client only using Windows 2000 partition has survived, which is now assisting me PuTTying. Prior applying a drastic weight plan on my hard drive my system regularly locked up and crash on Linux (post new motherboard). Although that partition is flattend, I still jump into knoppix (and variants) and experince lock ups. I was just using Knoppix to use my TV Card, and it decided to lock up, I left it locked and ran to the TV to finish whatever I was watching. Came back my system off and wouldn't power on... on closer inspection, a nice smell from the PSU. I think PSU's have a timer to allow power after a certain time as I am using it now. Now is it my motherboard not being nice to my existing PSU, or does the PSU need to leave. The PSU is 5 months old (300W). A decision I have to make tomorrow as I visit the local PC shop. [1] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00171.html [2] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00200.html -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let them hate, so long as they fear -- GPLG GPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGP GPL MICROSOFT GPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPL GPLGPL Richard Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux on mac
On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 13:16, Philip Gomes wrote: Hiya, I'm looking for someone called the tongmaster. Apparently he's familiar with linux on Mac setups. I've got a G3/400/6 Gig bronze powerbook. I also purchased a Yellow Dog to help me get started but need help on the install etc. That would be me, I'm very behind on my email, as usual :) Any help out there for this linux virgin. The advice given thus far has been sound, did you have any particular issues you wanted answers on? -- o/~ I'm going to die with a twinkle in my eye 'cause I sung songs spun stories loved laughed and drank wine o/~ - The Cat Empire signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22
Having read Stuart's description, I wanted to see this amazing mapping technology. It's broken on my machine. I get a vertical, crooked red line that looks like York St. An outline of the harbour and a marker for the hotel. That's it. Not really spectacular but probably a bug! Moz 1.4. jvm installed. It probably works really well in IE... Stu On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 00:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event? Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is! Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and then click the Map of Event Location link. A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street from anywhere in the Sydney CBD will appear. You'll be amazed! It starts at 1000ft but you can zoom in with the magnifying glass + gif to 500ft then 250ft to 100ft to 50ft; it's amazing just how detailed and useful the information is; the folks at whereis.com.au could really learn from these guys. Enjoy, Stuart. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
Hi, I've had a similar problem. I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.24 and now when I use my toaster there is a very strong acrid smell + smoke. I took the toaster back for repair and the guy said it's definitely a software problem and as such not covered under warranty. I now have to cook my toast on the pilot light of my hot water service (HWS). I plan to upgrade to 2.4.25, but before I do has anyone had problems with 2.4.25 and HWS? Cheers, - Guy. At 10:12 pm 11/03/2004 +1100, you wrote: This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to investigate a possible cause: bad sectors [2], in which I managed to kill 30GB of useful data. The crashes are still occuring, and *ONLY* in Linux. My dusty ECI Client only using Windows 2000 partition has survived, which is now assisting me PuTTying. Prior applying a drastic weight plan on my hard drive my system regularly locked up and crash on Linux (post new motherboard). Although that partition is flattend, I still jump into knoppix (and variants) and experince lock ups. I was just using Knoppix to use my TV Card, and it decided to lock up, I left it locked and ran to the TV to finish whatever I was watching. Came back my system off and wouldn't power on... on closer inspection, a nice smell from the PSU. I think PSU's have a timer to allow power after a certain time as I am using it now. Now is it my motherboard not being nice to my existing PSU, or does the PSU need to leave. The PSU is 5 months old (300W). A decision I have to make tomorrow as I visit the local PC shop. [1] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00171.html [2] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00200.html -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let them hate, so long as they fear -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
quote(Ken Foskey); A simple solution may be storing it in CVS. The engineer then simply or Arch. ;-) - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] BSD Sockets
Is there a definitive source of information on BSD sockets? e.g. is there an RFC? Many thanks, Bruce -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
h I have the complete opposite. On one machine it would spazmodically crash on me in windows leaving a black screen. I hold down the power button for several seconds to reboot the machine. With Mandrake 8.0 I was experienced extended uptime and I could still play alot of the games I wanted, under winex Now with mandrake 9.0 I have the same problems with my machine as it was Windows. To me, even though it's highly unlikely it sounds like faulty hardware. I have taken my machine to various Computer experts in the area of Campbelltown. (I should call them computer cowboys) Hoping they know more than myself component level and $300 less in my pocket, my conclusion is faulty hardware somewhere. Remeber your local computer shop expert will not know about linux they are just minor gumbies with the I.Q of a gold fish. Especially when they have a MCP after their names ;-) This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to investigate a possible cause: bad sectors [2], in which I managed to kill 30GB of useful data. The crashes are still occuring, and *ONLY* in Linux. My dusty ECI Client only using Windows 2000 partition has survived, which is now assisting me PuTTying. Prior applying a drastic weight plan on my hard drive my system regularly locked up and crash on Linux (post new motherboard). Although that partition is flattend, I still jump into knoppix (and variants) and experince lock ups. I was just using Knoppix to use my TV Card, and it decided to lock up, I left it locked and ran to the TV to finish whatever I was watching. Came back my system off and wouldn't power on... on closer inspection, a nice smell from the PSU. I think PSU's have a timer to allow power after a certain time as I am using it now. Now is it my motherboard not being nice to my existing PSU, or does the PSU need to leave. The PSU is 5 months old (300W). A decision I have to make tomorrow as I visit the local PC shop. [1] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00171.html [2] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00200.html -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let them hate, so long as they fear -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
h I have the complete opposite. On one machine it would spazmodically crash on me in windows leaving a black screen. I hold down the power button for several seconds to reboot the machine. With Mandrake 8.0 I was experienced extended uptime and I could still play alot of the games I wanted, under winex Now with mandrake 9.0 I have the same problems with my machine as it was Windows. What PSU do you have and what hardware do you have in the machine? I've seen this problem a fair bit and most of the time it's an underpowered (or shoddy) PSU.-- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat
Hi, I have run into a problem in upgrading my Linux systems. I bought a copy of RedHat Enterprise 3 WS in the USA a couple of months ago, thinking that it was about time to retire my v7.2 system. Unfortunately, when I installed it on a Dell Dimension that has been working perfectly with v7.2 for a long time, it was a disaster. Many applications didn't work properly or at all, my USB ports disappeared and in the end I had to reinstall v7.2 to get anything useful done. I didn't dare try upgrading my Web server. I wonder if anyone has any idea why this should happen. Is it RedHat moving away from supporting KDE? (a completely speculative hypothesis) I'm thinking of moving to SUSE, as I tried it and RedHat when I last upgraded (RedHat was slightly better). I'd appreciate advice from anyone who is a RedHat and/or SUSE guru. Thanks in advance. Please CC me as I'm not subscribed (I'm already getting too much mail from other lists). Jim -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
Danger! Danger! Will Robinson another engineering dude maintaining I.T whilst completing their normal job description ;-) I have several engineering clients like this and it has been fun cleaning up a huge mess. I think you will get very vague views on what you can do in getting a solution as IMHO this is most slug member's life blood. It's like us asking your group for an engeering solution for free. We (standard discalimer applies) are more than happy providing Linux support and help with software related with Linux. If you have a direction and know of a possible solution that you want to implement we may have some people who have experience in resolving some configurational problems you may come across. I hope I have not jumped on anyone's toes here. As most of slug subscribers are aware I am more than happy in providing free help to Linux problems when I know of a solution. [snip] Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. I work for a small engineering firm as a design engineer, i also have the task of being the the IT manager for our small network. Hence please bear with me if i dont make complete sense since it is not my first trade! [snip] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
Dunno about the PSU, I will look tonight. CPU AMD 1200 128 MB of RAM MSI Mother board (intergrated sound) 3Com NIC NVIDIA GeForce MX4 Leadtek TV capture card Can't remember everything in my system I will have a look at the brand of PSU and get back to you. I have been looking at a few opterons to replace the out dated piece of equipment. ;-) h I have the complete opposite. On one machine it would spazmodically crash on me in windows leaving a black screen. I hold down the power button for several seconds to reboot the machine. With Mandrake 8.0 I was experienced extended uptime and I could still play alot of the games I wanted, under winex Now with mandrake 9.0 I have the same problems with my machine as it was Windows. What PSU do you have and what hardware do you have in the machine? I've seen this problem a fair bit and most of the time it's an underpowered (or shoddy) PSU.-- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat
Jim, I have installed RH ES3 on a *ell Optiplex GX260 under vmware it seems to work nicely. I don't know if it was the host system that finds everything and transfers it to the virtual machine usb flash drives worked each time you plugged one in. The only problem is that the Kernel delays the boot process when it only finds only 128 Mb of RAM. (mind you this is server that I am talking about) The GUI works I don't use KDE, but Gnome works fine. I didn't see KDE when I built a RHES3 on a ML370, I don't think I saw a mention of KDE at all. So your hypothesis may be correct. Go to Debian it rocks it has a bit of a learning curve compared to the other distros, it has a text based install process. Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Mozilla/Firebird issue with stgeorge.com.au
Hi! A BIG thanks to all who replied and helped out. I can now access my stgeorge account through Mozilla/Firebird. --Kanwar Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
Gerard, Another product probably worth looking at is Team Centre from EDS... Yes it is more expensive than CVS, but it is designed for the job you are trying to do. Cheers Peter. Phil Scarratt wrote: Gerard Blacklock wrote: Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. I work for a small engineering firm as a design engineer, i also have the task of being the the IT manager for our small network. Hence please bear with me if i dont make complete sense since it is not my first trade! A large percentage of our work consists generating CAD drawings and instruction sheets (document type), this results in a large number CAD files and word format files, we have quite a sensible numbering system for each job hence it is relatively easy to find jobs when the job number is known. We operate a database system which contains records of all the jobs, these are manually inputted as the job is raised. This can be searched and will display the related documents but not there location. The database is not linked to the files. Thats where the sensible part ends! All the word documents are on a central server (doubling as a desktop for me!) hence these are quickly found when looking, but all the CAD files are stored on the respective engineers PC, hence if engo A does job # 123456 all the CAD related files will be located his machine. This can get quite messy if you are looking for job files quickly, also makes files get lost easily. Now most likely people are thinking why not keep all CAD files on the central server? The primary reason for this is: if there two or three people accessing CAD files on the server machine - the server slows to a standstill and the clients machine becomes unusable, this is a result of the CAD files being quite large and fully parametric. So the solution i am looking for? - (upgrading to a faster LAN is not really an option - although i would like too!!) We wish to have the ability to search a database using multiple options (job number, keyword etc), on completion of a successful search result, the software? would display the related documents for that job, ie CAD files, word docs, pix etc. To add another dimension to it, we would also like to be able to access any of the files presented in the results immediately without having to manually go to the individual machine and locate and open the file. To be able do this would greatly reduce the time spent chasing down lost files on each machine when a query comes in from a customer- not to mention making it much easier for staff who are not familiar with all files and their location! has anyone out there implemented solutions for this type of problem? I am sure larger organisations would have solved this problem quite some time ago. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could share their expertise in this area or point me in the right direction towards learning more about this. If more information is required please do no hesitate to contact me - i hope i have made some sense in identifying our needs. I am not sure about the on-topic'ness of the thread, but will put in my 2c worth anyway. After open-source solutions exist for this sort of thing. There's document management systems out there that could handle this sort of thing - although don't know of any off the top of my head. You must have some sort of centrally managed storage system or you've got problems. You basically need, at the very minimum, some way of controlling where files are stored (even if on each workstation), and ensuring that the rules thereof are followed rigidly. This in itself would be near impossible in some situations. Out of interest, how are all the files backed up if they are spread out? What OS? network structure? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] BSD Sockets
The BSD sockets API has become part of the IEEE Posix standards. The specific part is IEEE Std 1003.1g, Protocol Independent Interfaces. See http://www.pasc.org/. All this info from page 25 of W Richard Steven's Unix Network Programming, which is IMHO the definitive source of information on BSD sockets. Carl. On Friday 12 March 2004 08:17, Bruce Badger wrote: Is there a definitive source of information on BSD sockets? e.g. is there an RFC? Many thanks, Bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and then click the Map of Event Location link. A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street from anywhere in the Sydney CBD will appear. You'll be amazed! Yeah click, see a useless, zero detailed scene, click to go into more detail wait . Ummm I am still to high, click.. wait..click..wait .. click . wait - kill. Bye Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1724 Fx: 9514 1460 UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
Hi Gerard, That sounds similar to something my employer had pre-1999. Then we changed it gradually. The current system uses a variety of CAD software on multiple OS's (optimised according to needs). AutoCAD only works on Windows, for example, so the user has to use Windows. I-Deas 3D runs on several OS (but not Linux). What we ended up doing is putting all Windows-only CAD files on a NAS server, and all the Unix-based CAD databases on a Unix server. Both servers have tape backup locally on robots, and offsite backups via a tape service provider. Files stored locally to PCs or workstations are not backed up; it is up to the user to save their work to the server(s). In the case of the Unix workstations this is automatic. Workflow is fairly rigid to comply with ISO9001 requirements; drawing title block information is entered into a (locally designed) database which uses PHP/MySQL/Apache. Part of the project release procedure involves creating PDF copes of CAD drawings or views. This is placed (manually) on one of the servers and referenced in the database, and cross-referenced to an ERP package manually. The released CAD information is thus available to all staff anywhere in the world, and currently receives about one lookup per minute (from apache logs) from 6:30 am when the local factory starts a shift, through to about 3:30 am when the US office finishes. There are a few manual parts to the process, but the product is so complicated and needs to be checked, that it would be hard to justify automating those processes. We also looked at using Teamcentre, Hummingbird, Tower (now part of another company), Documentum (now part of EMC), Windchill. All very good products which will deeply embed with your CAD systems but you will not get much change out of $1M. If you are really strapped for cash I would suggest getting a nice PC, plenty of hard drive space, put Linux on it, mySQL, Apache, PHP (or mod PERL if you have a programmer), and also think about putting released CAD drawings separate from completed CAD work. Most end users don't know how to drive a CAD system anyway, and often they just want to see a dimensioned drawing. In which case PDF is fine, create an internal web site to display that for you. Then when they really need to modify the design, they can use the DB to get the design files from the archive area and work on them. If you put SAMBA on the Linux box, and setup the user accounts properly, then all users can access their archives as easily as from a Windows server. Of course you don't have two people working on the one design, they only work on parts of it. And there are certainly plenty of lurkers on the list who can create this for you. Hope that helps a bit, Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerard Blacklock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution? Slug, snip A large percentage of our work consists generating CAD drawings and instruction sheets (document type), this results in a large number CAD files and word format files, we have quite a sensible numbering system for each job hence it is relatively easy to find jobs when the job number is known. snip -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic
Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat
Jim Lemon wrote: Hi, I have run into a problem in upgrading my Linux systems. I bought a copy of RedHat Enterprise 3 WS in the USA a couple of months ago, thinking that it was about time to retire my v7.2 system. Unfortunately, when I installed it on a Dell Dimension that has been working perfectly with v7.2 for a long time, it was a disaster. Many applications didn't work properly or at all, my USB ports disappeared and in the end I had to reinstall v7.2 to get anything useful done. I didn't dare try upgrading my Web server. Since you purchased RHEL 3, you get access to Red Hat technical support. Have you opened any tickets with us? I can take a look at them if so. Generally speaking, RHEL 3 supports *lots* more hardware than RHL 7.2, especially USB. Not sure what applications weren't working for you, but let me know. I wonder if anyone has any idea why this should happen. Is it RedHat moving away from supporting KDE? (a completely speculative hypothesis) I'm thinking of moving to SUSE, as I tried it and RedHat when I last upgraded (RedHat was slightly better). I'd appreciate advice from anyone who is a RedHat and/or SUSE guru. Thanks in advance. The fact of the matter is that Red Hat has much more in-house expertise when it comes to GNOME, but that certainly doesn't mean we'll abandon KDE. Actually, we're making efforts to better integrate KDE and GNOME (see Bluecurve). mcm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian RC Bug Squish / Code Fest
Just a reminder that it's on tomorrow. See you there and head here for more the latest updates: http://debian.slug.org.au/ On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 02:15, Craige McWhirter wrote: When: Saturday, March 13, 10:00am - 6:00pm Where: Sydney Uni To do our bit to bring the next Debian release closer to fruition, we're holding a Debian RC Bug Squish and Code Fest. The idea of of the day is to have a social, coding day, learn a few things and close some Debian RC Bugs, for which we will be having prizes etc for a variety of achievements such as closing the most bugs, closing the most difficult bug, closing the most important bug. The winners will be chosen by those attending the day. Food and drink will be organised throughout the day and dinner be held afterwards at a venue decided on by the participants. For more information on Debian RC (release critical) bugs, head to the DebSIG website http://debian.slug.org.au/ and key on there for updates, detailed location information, maps and other news relating to this event. -- Cheers, Craige. o/~ I'm going to die with a twinkle in my eye 'cause I sung songs spun stories loved laughed and drank wine o/~ - The Cat Empire signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Mozilla/Firebird issue with stgeorge.com.au
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004, Kanwar Plaha wrote: A BIG thanks to all who replied and helped out. I can now access my stgeorge account through Mozilla/Firebird. I'd suggest that everyone who is using the pretend to be Mozilla for Windows workaround contact St George and inform them of this: it might help them realise that supporting Linux (even unofficially) again would not be a massive endeavour. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Jim Lemon wrote: Hi, I have run into a problem in upgrading my Linux systems. I bought a copy of RedHat Enterprise 3 WS in the USA a couple of months ago, thinking that it was about time to retire my v7.2 system. Unfortunately, when I installed it on a Dell Dimension that has been working perfectly with v7.2 for a long time, it was a disaster. Red Hat has a guide to migrating RHL to RHEL available from here: http://www.redhat.com/whitepapers/rhel/ASESWS_Migration_rev2.pdf Many applications didn't work properly or at all, Could you provide more detail? There's been quite a few changes since 7.2, and it's likely you'll need to update a few third party apps. Is it RedHat moving away from supporting KDE? (a completely speculative hypothesis) No. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GUI works I don't use KDE, but Gnome works fine. I didn't see KDE when I built a RHES3 on a ML370, I don't think I saw a mention of KDE at all. Its available both during the install (if you do a custom install) and afterwards using the Add/Remove Applications tool. Just click KDE and it, plus its dependencies, will get installed. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] March DebSIG
When: Wednesday, March 17, 7:00pm - 8:00pm Where: James Squire Brewery This month, Angus Lees will be dissecting defoma, along with the usual free-form discussions / debates that will precede and follow his talk. Food, drink and internet access are available and people generally start wandering in from 18:30 for a good 'ol chin wag. For more detailed information, maps, RSS feeds and the like, head here: http://debian.slug.org.au/ See you all there! -- Cheers, Craige. o/~ I'm going to die with a twinkle in my eye 'cause I sung songs spun stories loved laughed and drank wine o/~ - The Cat Empire signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:57:41AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event?
Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is!
Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and
then click the Map of Event Location link.
A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street
from anywhere in the Sydney CBD will appear. You'll be amazed!
It starts at 1000ft but you can zoom in with the magnifying glass + gif
to 500ft then 250ft to 100ft to 50ft; it's amazing just how detailed
and useful the information is; the folks at whereis.com.au could really
learn from these guys.
You're kidding, are you?
* no road names
* if you are not from sydney you wouldnt no that line across
that blue stuff is some famous piece of metal.
* from 2500ft onwards all you see is some blue and yellow
areas with a grey line across and a 1 pointing to
the road or some building?
The only reason *I* know from THAT map where the venue
is because I stayed there a number of times.
not amazing after all.
jobst
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[SLUG] rights of root from su
sorry for such an elementary Q... :-( I thought you could do ANYTHING as root.. Debian Woody -- su to root to install e.g. OO.o, error message: glibc version: 2.2.5 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0 so I have to logout as user and login as root on X11... why? (or should I just install as user?) Geoffrey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su
which did you use? su or su - su will give you root priviliges with your path su - will give you root with root's paths. sorry for such an elementary Q... :-( I thought you could do ANYTHING as root.. Debian Woody -- su to root to install e.g. OO.o, error message: glibc version: 2.2.5 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server .../setup: cannot connect to X server :0 so I have to logout as user and login as root on X11... why? (or should I just install as user?) Geoffrey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. Then I was thought I might sound a little too eager. :) I will begin to download it to night but the prob is that I'm not in the surry hill district. Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 02:30:12PM +1100, Geoffrey Cowling wrote: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0 so I have to logout as user and login as root on X11... why? Because of X authorisation (xauth). If you are the only using this box, do a 'xhost localhost' before su'ing. This will allow anyone on the local machine to connect. If you're not the only one, well don't do this, use xauth instead; export the xauth cookie from your account and import to root's xauth. (let me know if you a detailed howto; or google for it) Or ... you might try ssh'ing to the same machine, and login as root (if you can). This will end up using the original accounts authorisation. I believe there is a PAM module for X that you tell su to do option 1 above automgically, but the details escape me at the mo. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 02:30:12PM +1100, Geoffrey Cowling wrote: sorry for such an elementary Q... :-( I thought you could do ANYTHING as root.. Debian Woody -- su to root to install e.g. OO.o, error message: glibc version: 2.2.5 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0 X11 is a network protocol. It's not affected by the user ID of the user trying to connect, it just makes sure that user can present the right credentials to be allowed access. This is usually stored in .Xauthority in your home directory. So, after su'ing, run # export XAUTHORITY=/path/to/homedir/.Xauthority (where /path/to/homedir is, of course, the path to your regular user's home directory, usually /home/username) -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
Tell me about it. I'm on dialup, and I've seriously been considering getting broadband. $30/month isn't bad at all, Exetel even gives you unlimited off-peak downloads.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. Then I was thought I might sound a little too eager. :) I will begin to download it to night but the prob is that I'm not in the surry hill district. Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
Well my broadband is in campbelltown and i am stuck in canberra without real internet connection after hours :( Tell me about it. I'm on dialup, and I've seriously been considering getting broadband. $30/month isn't bad at all, Exetel even gives you unlimited off-peak downloads.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. Then I was thought I might sound a little too eager. :) I will begin to download it to night but the prob is that I'm not in the surry hill district. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22
Try here: http://www.whereis.com.au From: Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:57:41AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event? Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is! Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and then click the Map of Event Location link. A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street from anywhere in the Sydney CBD will appear. You'll be amazed! It starts at 1000ft but you can zoom in with the magnifying glass + gif to 500ft then 250ft to 100ft to 50ft; it's amazing just how detailed and useful the information is; the folks at whereis.com.au could really learn from these guys. You're kidding, are you? * no road names * if you are not from sydney you wouldnt no that line across that blue stuff is some famous piece of metal. * from 2500ft onwards all you see is some blue and yellow areas with a grey line across and a 1 pointing to the road or some building? The only reason *I* know from THAT map where the venue is because I stayed there a number of times. not amazing after all. jobst _ Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp?banner=emailtagreferrer=hotmail -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. Then I was thought I might sound a little too eager. :) I will begin to download it to night but the prob is that I'm not in the surry hill district. Who currently has updated mirrors? If any isps in NSW on pipenetworks peering have it, I'd be happy to download and have it available next week. I work in North Sydney. Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD1.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD2.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD3.i586.iso Is that it? I am guessing it's a pre-release but not the offical release, however I've never used mandrake, and no fimilar with it naming of iso releases. Let me know, if it is, I can download for you from tonight onwards and have them available next week, will be happy to burn and swap you for 3 blank cdr's. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0 so I have to logout as user and login as root on X11... why? this works on RH/Fedora but it is a bit of a nasty hack :-), for Debian after su'ing do export XAUTHORITY=/home/yourhomedir/.Xauthority and life should be okay... Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Mandrake/iso/ 646500352 Jan 7 16:55 MandrakeMove-i586.iso 728651776 Mar 4 13:40 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso 728797184 Mar 4 13:41 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD2.i586.iso 728829952 Mar 4 13:42 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD3.i586.iso 491 Mar 4 14:50 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download.md5sums.asc These look better... And pacific is on pipe peering, so these are a free download for anyone with a broadband isp in sydney who is peered with pipenetworks. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
Michael Fox wrote: Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD2.i586.iso Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD3.i586.iso Actually these look like the better ones.. if you are stuck, as I said will download for you and bring next week, if you wish to travel over to North Sydney. Thanks that looks like it. what's the date on the files? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
Michael Fox wrote: Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Mandrake/iso/ 646500352 Jan 7 16:55 MandrakeMove-i586.iso 728651776 Mar 4 13:40 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso 728797184 Mar 4 13:41 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD2.i586.iso 728829952 Mar 4 13:42 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD3.i586.iso 491 Mar 4 14:50 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download.md5sums.asc These look better... And pacific is on pipe peering, so these are a free download for anyone with a broadband isp in sydney who is peered with pipenetworks. Yep, that's it. Any chance you could burn a copy?... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
Michael, No their no the ones. We are after the official release iso's. Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD1.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD2.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD3.i586.iso Is that it? I am guessing it's a pre-release but not the offical release, however I've never used mandrake, and no fimilar with it naming of iso releases. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 20:30, Matthew Palmer wrote: OK, I've gotten myself roped into doing some talks for the BSP next Saturday (must remember to duck *then* dodge next time g). The problem is, there's a lot of different stuff which *could* be useful, but there's only a limited amount of time for me (and others g) to talk. I finally got to read this thread. Great work Matt, and great suggestions everyone :) -- Cheers, Craige. o/~ I'm going to die with a twinkle in my eye 'cause I sung songs spun stories loved laughed and drank wine o/~ - The Cat Empire signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] computers to give away
first in gets them 1 x powermac 6200 1 x powermac 7200/20 1 x powertower pro 200 all working please call me -linley on 0409 831 404 localtion: Mascot -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
Yep, that's it. Any chance you could burn a copy?... Yes, I am happy to download these starting from tonight when I get home, and then burn them onto 3 discs. I can bring them to work on Monday, I work in North Sydney, so if you want to arrange to come over. Drop us a email over the weekend etc. Just bring 3 blank discs with you and we can do a nice trade. Offer open to anyone else who wishes to obtain these discs. I also download images of other distributions from time to time. If I ever make a slug meeting in the near future, will be happy to bring them along from time to time. Cheers -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, No their no the ones. We are after the official release iso's. You can get it from the primary mandrake mirror: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/iso/ James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
quote(Michael Fox); And pacific is on pipe peering, so these are a free download for anyone with a broadband isp in sydney who is peered with pipenetworks. Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
Michael Fox wrote: Yep, that's it. Any chance you could burn a copy?... Yes, I am happy to download these starting from tonight when I get home, and then burn them onto 3 discs. I can bring them to work on Monday, I work in North Sydney, so if you want to arrange to come over. Drop us a email over the weekend etc. Just bring 3 blank discs with you and we can do a nice trade. Offer open to anyone else who wishes to obtain these discs. I also download images of other distributions from time to time. If I ever make a slug meeting in the near future, will be happy to bring them along from time to time. Cheers What time do you finish work? I live and work in Zetland, but I could probably get to North Syd by 5.30 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] computers to give away
quote(linley); first in gets them 1 x powermac 6200 1 x powermac 7200/20 1 x powertower pro 200 all working please call me -linley on 0409 831 404 localtion: Mascot You may like to talk to the ComputerBank[1] guys about this as a worthy cause. Take a look at http://cbnsw.org.au/ [1] http://cbnsw.org.au/ - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
re: [slug] new mobo now freezes
Simon, did you put any heat sinking paste on the cpu/sink interface?? It helps immensely, goto dick smiths to get some and put it in if you haven´t. Regards, Nicholas Tomlin. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU
Guy Ellis wrote: I plan to upgrade to 2.4.25, but before I do has anyone had problems with 2.4.25 and HWS? Can't say I have. but I did experience kernel joy to find that LFS is in SMBFS in 2.4.25 dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) this is indeed true, I believe internode recently changed this and pipe data is now free. however, I am on neither isp so can't really be certain how true that is :) Currently use netspace, but soon to change to westnet (in about 2 months) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:12, Michael Fox wrote: Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) this is indeed true, I believe internode recently changed this and pipe data is now free. however, I am on neither isp so can't really be certain how true that is :) Not quite. Internode have recently declared PIPE traffic un-prioritised (as opposed to un-metered) for Flatrate customers only. So, while PIPE traffic will still count towards your 7 day rolling download total (reduced from a 30 day rolling total recently), it will always come down at full speed when other traffic is slowed by Flaterate prioritisation. Btw, I have to say that I'm not really concerned, as my plan (512/128 premium) has just gone down in price from $99.95p/m to $79.95p/m with a download limit increase from 24GB to 32GB, so I'm over the moon! :) As far as I am concerned, 32GB per month is unlimited enough to not have to worry about excess fees... Cheers, John... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)
John McQuillen wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:12, Michael Fox wrote: Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) this is indeed true, I believe internode recently changed this and pipe data is now free. however, I am on neither isp so can't really be certain how true that is :) Not quite. Internode have recently declared PIPE traffic un-prioritised (as opposed to un-metered) for Flatrate customers only. So, while PIPE traffic will still count towards your 7 day rolling download total (reduced from a 30 day rolling total recently), it will always come down at full speed when other traffic is slowed by Flaterate prioritisation. Btw, I have to say that I'm not really concerned, as my plan (512/128 premium) has just gone down in price from $99.95p/m to $79.95p/m with a download limit increase from 24GB to 32GB, so I'm over the moon! :) As far as I am concerned, 32GB per month is unlimited enough to not have to worry about excess fees... Cheers, John... 32GB? But that's only six DVD's Surely not enough.. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] A valid analogy.
It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was Well, Linux is differently organised. Feeble, I know, but the enquirer was not a nurd and, if it comes to that, neither am I. So I thought about the matter. I wanted a good analogy. This was the best that came to mind: Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is a Wenkel. As I say, the best I could do. Can anyone do better? The issue *must* have surfaced in the past and valid analogies must have been drawn for the non-technical. My reason for wanting this is that, occasionally I'm asked why I will not even look at, or consider going back to MS. Blinding people with technicalia generally gets you nowhere. Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Windows machines come configured as the initial user the system Administrator. Most users don't realize this and never change it - even though Microsoft tells you all about it in the help. When a virus / worm / trojan comes along it is analogous to having 'The fox in the chicken coop'. Any good??? Richard. On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:24, Bill Bennett wrote: It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was Well, Linux is differently organised. Feeble, I know, but the enquirer was not a nurd and, if it comes to that, neither am I. So I thought about the matter. I wanted a good analogy. This was the best that came to mind: Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is a Wenkel. As I say, the best I could do. Can anyone do better? The issue *must* have surfaced in the past and valid analogies must have been drawn for the non-technical. My reason for wanting this is that, occasionally I'm asked why I will not even look at, or consider going back to MS. Blinding people with technicalia generally gets you nowhere. Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Bill Bennett wrote: It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was Well, Linux is differently organised. Feeble, I know, but the enquirer was not a nurd and, if it comes to that, neither am I. 1. Windows has historically either parsed or execcuted all attachments arriving in mail to thats its easy for the user if they are interested, even mildly, in the ad. 2. In Linux you have to explicitly save the attachment from the mail, set its exec permissions and then explicitly execute it as ./unknown_program So maybe its like this Lots of speciial offers arrive in the mail all the time. Saving on new roofing guards for the roof, trials of new shampoo and sales on bed linen. Gee its so hard to read over all that and decide what I want and dont want. I dont want to miss anything. It doesnt cost much for the trial offers and I can back out after the 1 month trial with no cost if I dont want the product. I know lets automatically connect the offer to my cedit card so its automatically debited as soon as a potential savings oportunity comes along. Then I wont miss anything and lots of companies will be able to send me special offers. No one would take advantage of me would they Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1724 Fx: 9514 1460 UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Bill Bennett wrote: It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was Well, Linux is differently organised. Feeble, I know, but the enquirer was not a nurd and, if it comes to that, neither am I. So I thought about the matter. I wanted a good analogy. This was the best that came to mind: Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is a Wenkel. Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) Continuing the automotive theme... Perhaps 'because you can't get a leaded petrol bowser to fit into an unleaded[1] vehicle'. The virii are designed to attack MS systems (mostly) not UNIX/Linux ones. [1] unleaded being the choice for the Linux OS as it wont cause learning disabilities, behavioral problems, and, at very high levels, seizures, coma, and even death (http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/about/about.htm) like the MS alternative :-) cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Bill Bennett wrote: You're right. I have a feeling that it may be extinct now, but a Wenkel engine did not run on pistons. Bill Bennett. =+- Brad Kowalczyk wrote: =+- Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) Is it not (or similar to) Mazda's rotary engine? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 05:43:10PM +1100, Michael Lake wrote: Bill Bennett wrote: Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is a Wenkel. I actually like this analogy. The particular immunity is a sort of accidental thing, not necessarily an overall, inherent strength of design. 1. Windows has historically either parsed or execcuted all attachments arriving in mail to thats its easy for the user if they are interested, even mildly, in the ad. 2. In Linux you have to explicitly save the attachment from the mail, set its exec permissions and then explicitly execute it as ./unknown_program This is not quite true, as vim and emacs have had vulnerabilities in the past where they executed content which could be malicious. Anyone commenting on windows and unix should realise that they're like people and chimpanzees. Even though they may look quite different they share 98% of their dna. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 06:10:30PM +1100, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: =+- Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) Is it not (or similar to) Mazda's rotary engine? Same thing; it's a Wankel rotary engine. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
How about this one... It's like entering a house through the door: Windows OS has key locks, most virii use some variation of a lock picker. Unix/Linux OS have numeric key pads, a lock picker is completely useless, you have to use something else to break in. In both cases you can still stand in front of the door and not let people in or out. Or simply walk in if somebody leaves the door open. With Unix/Linux, once you're in you find other doors locked in various ways depending on importance. On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Bill Bennett wrote: It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was Well, Linux is differently organised. Feeble, I know, but the enquirer was not a nurd and, if it comes to that, neither am I. So I thought about the matter. I wanted a good analogy. This was the best that came to mind: Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is a Wenkel. As I say, the best I could do. Can anyone do better? The issue *must* have surfaced in the past and valid analogies must have been drawn for the non-technical. My reason for wanting this is that, occasionally I'm asked why I will not even look at, or consider going back to MS. Blinding people with technicalia generally gets you nowhere. Bill Bennett. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
