[SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
This is a general 'how do you do it if you do it' question about web application design. Although I use struts, I'm sure a Perl or Php example would suffice. Even if you know of an OSS project that does this thing... Here is the scenario. Web Form: - ORDER HEADER Order No: 0010 Order Date: 15/08/2004 Customer: __ LOOKUP CUSTOMER Customer Name: ? - So the user has entered a new order date and requests the LOOKUP CUSTOMER button to search the 1,000,000 customers in the database. (Note, I picked a cool million deliberately to stop the 'just use a combo' suggestions) The customer is found and selected. The user is returned to this form in exactly the same 'state' they left it. ie with the date entered as 15/08/2004, except their customer code is now filled in. As is the Customer name. - ORDER HEADER Order No: 0010 Order Date: 15/08/2004 Customer: ABC123 LOOKUP CUSTOMER Customer Name: ABC Inc. - Ways to do this: - Some sort of 'stack' where the state is maintained in a 'level' of the stack with all the form values from the web page. The user goes off and searches on the next level of the 'stack' and once sorted, pulls (or is it pops) the stack back to the previous 'level' and re-populates the form. - Something else. - Can't be done. I'm all ears, unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably write the 'stack' technology. TIA Stuart Guthrie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
This is a general 'how do you do it if you do it' question about web application design. As opposed to a how do you do it if you don't do it question- which is much easier to answer, the answer is simply you don't do it :-) Web Form: - ORDER HEADER Order No: 0010 Order Date: 15/08/2004 Customer: __ LOOKUP CUSTOMER Customer Name: ? - So the user has entered a new order date and requests the LOOKUP CUSTOMER button to search the 1,000,000 customers in the database. (Note, I picked a cool million deliberately to stop the 'just use a combo' suggestions) Very good idea not to use a combo, I once saw a webpage with a combo list of all usernames in a large organisation and there were just under 40,000 of them. Not the best thing to put into a select list. The customer is found and selected. The user is returned to this form in exactly the same 'state' they left it. ie with the date entered as 15/08/2004, except their customer code is now filled in. As is the Customer name. Think self calling CGI. A self calling CGI has a HTML form with the action target the same script. The script works out whether it's been called the first time (to display the form) or the second time (to look up the customer name) based on whether the field variable is present. Self calling CGIs are a standard CGI programming technique. - Some sort of 'stack' where the state is maintained in a 'level' of the stack with all the form values from the web page. The user goes off and searches on the next level of the 'stack' and once sorted, pulls (or is it pops) the stack back to the previous 'level' and re-populates the form. I wouldn't use the terms stack and level here, it's not really a stack based application. You're better off thinking in terms of web pages, page 1, page 2 etc. So you've got your start page then you've got your second page with the customer page displayed and so on. Have fun, Stuart. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 16:13 +1000, Stuart Guthrie wrote: I'm all ears, unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably write the 'stack' technology. I don't know that it's a stack problem. I can think of two ways to do it: 1. Use the zany xml-rpc stuff in Javascript to do the query. This sounds like a nice idea in theory but I don't know how compatible it would be. Anyone played with this? 2. Have your lookup butt submit the data and set some magical flag that says I'm only searching, don't act on this data, which has the side affect of committing your input to session data or whatever, so that it can be used for default values the next time the page is loaded You'd do the lookup when sending back your default data. Make your magic variable a hidden input and have the 'lookup' button re-set that hidden variable and then call submit on the form. I've not explained that very clearly, but hopefully you'll get the gist of it. Ask if you need clarification. HTH, James. -- James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Talk: Martin Gregory from Microsoft, Thursday August 12th
Just to clarify, the same as all our monthly meetings, this event is open to non-SLUG-members and the general public also. If you're interested, please come along. With Martin's permission, we'll also video the talk and make the recording available afterward. Cheers, Jan. quote who=Jan Schmidt Apologies for the late notice. We had some trouble sorting out a room and time to host this talk. i We are holding this talk separately to the ordinary SLUG meeting, as it doesn't clearly meet SLUG's normal talks, but we still thought that it would be of interest to some SLUG members. When: Thursday, August 12, 7:00pm - 9:30pm Location: UTS Broadway, Building 10, Level 2, Room 410 This is located in the Fairfax Building - UTS Building 10 - in Jones St on the corner of Thomas St. It is between UTS Building 1 and Wattle St. Level 2 is street level from Jones St. Synopsis: Martin Gregory has been with Microsoft for 15 years and works on the company's platform strategy. He is based in Sydney. Martin will be joining us to talk about what Microsoft has learned from the Open Source community, the feedback they have received from various players in the industry, including customers, partners and developers and Microsoft's view of Open Source. Martin is keen to hear your views on the Open Source versus commercial software debate and the key concerns IT decision makers face, including total cost of ownership, security and sharing source code. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SLUGAMuSIG meeting - 4 September
Meeting of SLUGAMuSIG - Audio/ Music Special Interest Group When: Saturday, 4 September; 10:30am to 4pmish Where: Macquarie University, Department of Contemporary Music Studies, building W6A, room 607 All interested in music/ audio and Linux are invited for the next gathering of the group. A more detailed list of proposed discussions will follow shortly, but the general plan is a demonstration/ discussion in the morning, followed by an open session of jamming/ coding/ talking in the afternoon. All levels of interest are welcomed. A relevant map of Macquarie is at http://www.bgo.mq.edu.au/campus.htm. The best way to get to the Music Department (on the 6th floor of building W6A) is from the Balaclava Rd entrance (opposite Woolies from Epping Rd). The closest parking is W4, and costs $8.00 for the whole day. There is side-of-road (free) parking on Culloden Rd, but it's a longer walk. For people arriving at various times through the day, the front door might be locked, but we'll keep an eye out, or call me on 0408 478 802. Denis Crowdy -- Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia, ph: +61 (0)2 9850 6787, fax: 9850 6593 http://www.ccms.mq.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SLUG Installfest: Saturday 21st August.
Hey everyone, SLUG is having an installfest on Saturday (21st August), next week. For those who've never been to an installfest, we'll be installing Linux on people's computers. If you're curious about Linux but don't want to install it yourself, then the installfest is for you. We also need volunteers to install Linux on other people's machines to come along. If you're coming as a volunteer installer, please let the activities list[1] know. Onlookers are also welcome, but we can't promise that you won't be roped in to helping out with installs :) The installfest will run from 9:30am until 4:30pm at UTS Broadway, in room 02.05.33 (Building 2, level 5, room 3). A map of UTS is available at http://www.uts.edu.au/about/mapsdirections/bway.html. If you're coming to have Linux installed, please: - bring along your computer and if possible your monitor; and - de-fragment your hard drive if you want to dual boot Linux and another operating system. If you're coming along as a volunteer, you only need to bring yourself. However, if you've got any cool toys on your Linux machine to show off, feel free to bring it along. Cheers, Chris [1] http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/activities -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 04:13:29PM +1000, Stuart Guthrie wrote: This is a general 'how do you do it if you do it' question about web application design. Although I use struts, I'm sure a Perl or Php example would suffice. Even if you know of an OSS project that does this thing... Here is the scenario. Web Form: - ORDER HEADER Order No: 0010 Order Date: 15/08/2004 Customer: __ LOOKUP CUSTOMER Customer Name: ? - So the user has entered a new order date and requests the LOOKUP CUSTOMER button to search the 1,000,000 customers in the database. (Note, I picked a cool million deliberately to stop the 'just use a combo' suggestions) The customer is found and selected. The user is returned to this form in exactly the same 'state' they left it. ie with the date entered as 15/08/2004, except their customer code is now filled in. As is the Customer name. Multiple windows and JavaScript. When the 'lookup customer' button is clicked, a little window with the customer finder is loaded, and the user picks their customer. When they click the appropriate button, the window tells it's parent what customer the user chose, and then closes itself. It's maybe 15 lines of JS, and whatever you want for the web stuff. Unfortunately, with such a large number of customers, it's not practical to use a floating DIV to provide the box, otherwise you could fiddle it all in JavaScript. But with an appropriately pared-down window you should be fine. - Some sort of 'stack' where the state is maintained in a 'level' of the stack with all the form values from the web page. The user goes off and searches on the next level of the 'stack' and once sorted, pulls (or is it pops) the stack back to the previous 'level' and re-populates the form. This is possible, if you need to do everything in one window, but you'll go grey/bald/mad/all of the above trying to make it work properly, especially if you try to general-case it. I know, I've looked at it. Eventually I figured Xerox gave us multiple windows for a reason, dammit and since then my only problem has been shithouse pop-up blockers. - Can't be done. Anything's possible. It's just that anything useful is often a pain in the arse, especially if it's related to computing. - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SLUG Installfest: Saturday 21st August.
Hi all I would love to help out at the SLUG installfest, however since I am vision impaired, this makes things a little difficult when it comes to reading stuff on the screen during installation. However I would be happy to answer any questions people may have, and can bring my laptop to demonstrate most aspects of Linux, particularly Linux multimedia. So if help is needed, and there is something that I could help out with, I would be glad to come. In terms of the location of the installfest, if someone is able to meet me outside UTS, that would be great. I will be coming from Central station, and would need assistance to find the room. Look forward to hearing from someone about this, and am happy to help out. Luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Terminal with Regis support
Could you be reffering to Tek Support option menu you get when pressing CTRL+MiddleMouse in xterm? (I think it's the same graphics mode as in VT100's, so not sure the vt240 are the same but it's possible). --Amos Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, I'm wondering if anyone knows of a terminal emulation program on Linux that provides Regis support (That Dec standard for drawing graphics on hardware terminals like the vt240 and above). We have some legacy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Where is ulimit -v set?
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 08:28:49 +1000 Norman Gaywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's a RH'ish type system, /etc/security/limits.conf might be what you're looking for. Actually Debian, but yes, thats where they are set. Thanks, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ I have long argued that the entertainment industry doesn't want people to have computers. Computers give users too much capability, too much flexibility, too much freedom. The entertainment industry wants users to sit back and consume things. They are trying to turn a computer into an Internet Entertainment Platform, along the lines of a television or VCR. This bill is a large step in that direction. -- Bruce Schneier -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] HELP!!!
Hi, I am a novice Linux user, having completely installed Linux Suse Professional 9.1 on both my Laptop (Dell Inspiron 8500), and my home PC. I am seeking some basic help to finalize my configuration of my laptop. When I am at home I connect my laptop to a Benq FP731 LCD (17 Flat Screen) monitor. When I press Fn + F8 to view my laptop via my Benq monitor I get no response from the monitor. I need some help as to how I can configure my laptop to overcome this dilemma. Secondly, before I unstalled MS for the last time out of my PC's I saved, and backed up all of my information on an external hard drive. I am seeking help from someone also who can point me in the right direction. I am currently using Ximian Evolution to manage my e-mail. Is there some way that I can import files from Microsoft Outlook (.PST) into Evolution. I would greatly appreciate any advice, or help for either of my problems. Regards, Dom L. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] shutting down iptables actually erronously starts it
Hi sluggerrs
For some reason I cannot shut down iptables on
redhat9.
It always.. ("Resetting built-in chains to
the default ACCEPT policy: [ OK ]"
)
resets to some unknown policy. (certainly not
masquerading)
I force a "NAT" script which does the job
OK.
I can't find any configuration file that
maycause this behaviour.
I disabled it (chkconfig iptables off) and on next
boot it is disabled.
I on occasions start it with a customised script
...and when i shut down iptables it restarts to some other
configuration and seems to have nasty results to routing commands.
I want to shut it down as it seems to interfere
with routing to other networks... 192.168.x.x 10.0.0.x
Any idea how I can shut it down
permanently?
I have opted to have NO firewall on "adsl-setup"
haven't knowing set it for anything else
including firewalling.
I can't see it in the "ps"
proccesses.
Many thanks
Roger
The full text to some commands is below.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables
stopFlushing all
chains:
[ OK ]Removing user defined
chains:
[ OK ]Resetting built-in chains to the default ACCEPT
policy: [ OK ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa |gg pppoerp-pppoe-3.5-2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -r2.4.20-31.9
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# sh -v
ipmasq.script
/sbin/iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F; iptables -t mangle
-F/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADEecho 1
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i
! ppp0 -j ACCEPT/sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP #only if the first
two are succesful/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o ppp0 -j REJECT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qc
rp-pppoe/etc/ppp/firewall-masq/etc/ppp/firewall-standalone/etc/ppp/pppoe-server-options
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Re: [SLUG] Richard Stallman - bed
What about a talk on a COMPSOC event at UNSW? /me ex-UNSW student. :) On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:40:36 +1000, Bruce Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Stallman will be visiting Sydney for a week or three at the beginning of October this year. The initiating event is the Builder conference: http://www.builderconference.com.au/ I have been trying to line up a speaking engagements for him with the ACS while he is here (possibly taking him around the country), but this is taking some time to work out. Anyway, during the exchanges, RMS asked me if: o There were any venues where he could speak while in Sydney. He had in mind Universities. Does anyone on the list have any thoughts or suggestions about possible venues for an RMS talk? o Would anyone have a spare bed for the duration of his stay? It seems that RMS prefers to avoid hotels. If you have any ideas on either of these, please let me know. Thanks, Bruce -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com -- Lester Cheung http://www.gnub.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OT: Horde or PHP sessions
Hi all Any Horde users out there? I'm really beating my head against a wall about this one. I'm trying to get Horde running, have it all installed with dependencies and all. The test page reports all ok. I get the login screen fine - but that's it. I try logging in and it accepts my login info but just dumps me back on the login page with both the username and password cleared. That's it. I look at the logs and it reports successful login. I am using imp for authentication. If I click on the mail link on the bottom toolbar of the login page and then enter the username and password, then it actually loads IMP (the webmail) and seems to work OK, as long as I don't use the toolbar at the bottom. I've tried using sql (mysql) as authentication for horde, and it works the first time as long as I don't click anywhere else (ie cannot open anything else after loggin on). Every time after that it does the same as above (dumps me back on login screen without any error message and with username cleared). I think it has something to do with cookies and sessions (using file based sessions in PHP). What seems to happen is that when I first load the login page, a session is started on the server. The successful login then seems to create/use a different session identifier and dumps the data into that, whilst the horde application keeps using the original one (which has no auth credentials in it so horde thinks no logon yet). What am I missing? It's gotta be something bizzare on the session handling under horde. I've done lots of googling and haven't come up with anything (google or the horde mailling lists which I am also joining and seeking help from). I'm either searching with the wrong phrases or there's nothing out there. I've come across similar problems - same symptoms, but no fixes. Anyone got any clues or links to good info on sessions in php? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] wireless fest - request for impact drill
Dear list, Sorry for being so late but if someone who is coming to the wireless fest could bring an impact drill with masonry bit, I would be grateful. (Mind has just died) -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing 2/713 Pacific Hwy Gordon Australia 2072 Phone:+(61-2) 9418 4545 Fax:+(61-2) 9418 4348 Mob:+(61) 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Richard Stallman - bed
On Fri Aug 13, 2004 at 21:53:09 +1000, Lester Cheung wrote: What about a talk on a COMPSOC event at UNSW? /me ex-UNSW student. :) I have already suggested that to the Compsoc president. Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OpenOffice won't let me paginate an HTML document
Hi I have an HTML document. It needs to be formatted with page margin settings, etc. Using a stylesheet failed (browsers such as konqueror seem to ignore them when printing to Postscript). Using html2ps didn't get it right either. So I opened it in OpenOffice and could set nearly everything happily. Except I can't make it more than one page. Obvious: HTML has no concepts of page. But when I export it as PDF it STILL only has one page. xpdf and acroread can both display it (one page only), but printing it to postscript seems to stuff up many printers and even gs. Even my secretary using M/S can't deal with this PDF. Does anyone know a reliable way of getting multipage PDF's out of an HTML document when there are tight formatting constraints? TIA Jan -- Jan Newmarch, School of Network Computing Monash University Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://jan.netcomp.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 3 9904 4249, Fax: +61 3 9904 4124 (ESOS: Monash Provider No. 8C) If Pacman had affected us as kids, we'd be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music (Marcus Brigstocke) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Horde or PHP sessions
First, what version of Horde are you using (Released or CVS) ? Second, did you use 'rpm' files or tar files ? Third, have you installed 'pear' modules ? Use batch command, like #pear install module name. Phil Scarratt wrote: Hi all Any Horde users out there? I'm really beating my head against a wall about this one. I'm trying to get Horde running, have it all installed with dependencies and all. The test page reports all ok. I get the login screen fine - but that's it. I try logging in and it accepts my login info but just dumps me back on the login page with both the username and password cleared. That's it. I look at the logs and it reports successful login. I am using imp for authentication. If I click on the mail link on the bottom toolbar of the login page and then enter the username and password, then it actually loads IMP (the webmail) and seems to work OK, as long as I don't use the toolbar at the bottom. I've tried using sql (mysql) as authentication for horde, and it works the first time as long as I don't click anywhere else (ie cannot open anything else after loggin on). Every time after that it does the same as above (dumps me back on login screen without any error message and with username cleared). I think it has something to do with cookies and sessions (using file based sessions in PHP). What seems to happen is that when I first load the login page, a session is started on the server. The successful login then seems to create/use a different session identifier and dumps the data into that, whilst the horde application keeps using the original one (which has no auth credentials in it so horde thinks no logon yet). What am I missing? It's gotta be something bizzare on the session handling under horde. I've done lots of googling and haven't come up with anything (google or the horde mailling lists which I am also joining and seeking help from). I'm either searching with the wrong phrases or there's nothing out there. I've come across similar problems - same symptoms, but no fixes. Anyone got any clues or links to good info on sessions in php? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] shutting down iptables actually erronously starts it
This is how I'd do your specs in RedHat(or Fedora) #service iptables restart --Brings up your current filters #iptables -F --Removes all and any rules --meaning no filters #service iptables save--Saved the 'no filter' rules Next time you bring up your system it will recall the no filter rules. The Salisburys wrote: Hi sluggerrs For some reason I cannot shut down iptables on redhat9. It always.. (Resetting built-in chains to the default ACCEPT policy:[ OK ] ) resets to some unknown policy. (certainly not masquerading) I force a NAT script which does the job OK. I can't find any configuration file that may cause this behaviour. I disabled it (chkconfig iptables off) and on next boot it is disabled. I on occasions start it with a customised script ...and when i shut down iptables it restarts to some other configuration and seems to have nasty results to routing commands. I want to shut it down as it seems to interfere with routing to other networks... 192.168.x.x 10.0.0.x Any idea how I can shut it down permanently? I have opted to have NO firewall on adsl-setup haven't knowing set it for anything else including firewalling. I can't see it in the ps proccesses. Many thanks Roger The full text to some commands is below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables stop Flushing all chains: [ OK ] Removing user defined chains: [ OK ] Resetting built-in chains to the default ACCEPT policy:[ OK ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa |gg pppoe rp-pppoe-3.5-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -r 2.4.20-31.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# sh -v ipmasq.script /sbin/iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F; iptables -t mangle -F /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! ppp0 -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP #only if the first two are succesful /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o ppp0 -j REJECT [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qc rp-pppoe /etc/ppp/firewall-masq /etc/ppp/firewall-standalone /etc/ppp/pppoe-server-options -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] UNSW COMPSOC Linux Installfest (Sun Aug 15)
Hi everyone, It seems like my original email never made it to any SLUG lists, so I'm reposting here. Thanks, Andrew Netsnipe Lau - Forwarded message from Andrew Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Hi everyone, COMPSOC will hosting its second Linux Installfest for 2004 this upcoming Sunday (August 15) from 11 am to 5:30pm. It will be held in the Oboe CSE labs on the ground floor of the Electrical Engineering building. The COMPSOC Installfest has always been and still is open to everyone (though rarely advertised externally). However if we're understaffed on the day, first priority will be given to UNSW students. Compsoc will also be providing free pizza for people volunteering on the day. So if you've like to come down and give us SLUG regulars from UNSW such as Matt, Pascal, Tim and myself among others a helping hand, please drop us a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll also be providing free pizza for people volunteering on the day. Register at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Further details are available on the COMPSOC website http://www.compsoc.cse.unsw.edu.au/ Hope to see you there, Andrew Lau COMPSOC President -- --- Andrew Netsnipe Lau http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~alau/ Debian GNU/Linux Maintainer UNSW Computing Students' Society President - Nobody expects the Debian Inquisition! Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency! --- - End forwarded message - signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HELP!!!
When I am at home I connect my laptop to a Benq FP731 LCD (17 Flat Screen) monitor. When I press Fn + F8 to view my laptop via my Benq monitor I get no response from the monitor. There is no real easy way for a novice user. Turn your lappy off, plug in the vga, then turn on the lappy. Lappy should be blank, with output on screen. -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Richard Stallman - bed
Sounds great! Please let us know if you guys need any help. On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 22:02:57 +1000, Benno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Aug 13, 2004 at 21:53:09 +1000, Lester Cheung wrote: What about a talk on a COMPSOC event at UNSW? /me ex-UNSW student. :) I have already suggested that to the Compsoc president. Benno -- Lester Cheung http://www.gnub.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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hi, does anyone know how to get sendmail to do a complete rewrite on an address? I just found out that even though my email address appears as [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's showing up also as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using slackware 10.0 with sendmail- oh dear I forgot the version. anyway if there's any sendmail experts that could help me with dilemer I'd greatly appreciate it. -- Screw up your courage! You've screwed up everything else. Shaun Oliver http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice won't let me paginate an HTML document
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 22:10, Jan Newmarch wrote: Hi I have an HTML document. It needs to be formatted with page margin settings, etc. Using a stylesheet failed (browsers such as konqueror seem to ignore them when printing to Postscript). Using html2ps didn't get it right either. So I opened it in OpenOffice and could set nearly everything happily. Except I can't make it more than one page. Obvious: HTML has no concepts of page. But when I export it as PDF it STILL only has one page. xpdf and acroread can both display it (one page only), but printing it to postscript seems to stuff up many printers and even gs. Even my secretary using M/S can't deal with this PDF. In Openoffice.org Go to the 'view' menu Remove the tick 'online layout'. It should start paginating it for you. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Horde or PHP sessions
O Plameras wrote: First, what version of Horde are you using (Released or CVS) ? Horde 2.2.5 (Stable version) IMP 3.2.5 (Stable version) Second, did you use 'rpm' files or tar files ? tar Third, have you installed 'pear' modules ? Use batch command, like #pear install module name. Yes. Sorry. In my rush (some visitors arrived) I forgot to include those sort of details, which I included in the horde post. Fil Phil Scarratt wrote: Hi all Any Horde users out there? I'm really beating my head against a wall about this one. I'm trying to get Horde running, have it all installed with dependencies and all. The test page reports all ok. I get the login screen fine - but that's it. I try logging in and it accepts my login info but just dumps me back on the login page with both the username and password cleared. That's it. I look at the logs and it reports successful login. I am using imp for authentication. If I click on the mail link on the bottom toolbar of the login page and then enter the username and password, then it actually loads IMP (the webmail) and seems to work OK, as long as I don't use the toolbar at the bottom. I've tried using sql (mysql) as authentication for horde, and it works the first time as long as I don't click anywhere else (ie cannot open anything else after loggin on). Every time after that it does the same as above (dumps me back on login screen without any error message and with username cleared). I think it has something to do with cookies and sessions (using file based sessions in PHP). What seems to happen is that when I first load the login page, a session is started on the server. The successful login then seems to create/use a different session identifier and dumps the data into that, whilst the horde application keeps using the original one (which has no auth credentials in it so horde thinks no logon yet). What am I missing? It's gotta be something bizzare on the session handling under horde. I've done lots of googling and haven't come up with anything (google or the horde mailling lists which I am also joining and seeking help from). I'm either searching with the wrong phrases or there's nothing out there. I've come across similar problems - same symptoms, but no fixes. Anyone got any clues or links to good info on sessions in php? Fil -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies IT Contractor 0403 53 12 71 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Horde or PHP sessions
OK, let me just confirm a number of items to ensure we talking on the same 'frequency': 1. when you access HORDE, the web address is: http://your.domain.au/horde 2. if your docroot is /usr/html, then your installation has the ff structure: /usr/html/horde -where you untarred horde-2.2.5 -as horde (renaming 'horde-2.2.5' as 'horde') -important because all libs refs 'horde'. /usr/html/horde/imp -where you untarred imp-3.2.5 -as imp (renaming 'imp-3.2.5' as 'imp') 3. then in 'cd /usr/html/horde/config' you did, #for i in `ls *.dist`; do cp $i `basename $i .dist`; done 4. then in 'cd /usr/html/horde/imp/config' you did, #for i in `ls *.dist`; do cp $i `basename $i .dist`; done 5. in 'vi /usr/html/horde/config/registry.php', uncommented: $this-registry['auth']['login'] = 'imp'; $this-registry['auth']['logout'] = 'imp'; changed: 'status' = 'inactive'to 'status'='active' 6. in 'vi /usr/html/horde/imp/config/servers.php', modify to your correct mail server, domain name. I use standard UW-IMAP not Cyrus-IMAP. So, change 'server' = 'mail.acay.com.au' instead of 'server' = 'imap.example.com' 'maildomain' = 'acay.com.au' 'smtphost' = 'mail.acay.com.au' 'realm' = 'acay.com.au' instead of default example.com. So, once *.dist files have been copied to their operational config names, there are only two files to change to be able to login and use EMAIL functionalities. These two files are: /usr/html/horde/config/registry.php and /usr/html/horde/imp/config/servers.php. At this point there is no need to specify backend as IMP does not use it. Backend like MySQL is good for Turba, Kronolith, etc that use lots of data to store. Have fun. O Plameras Phil Scarratt wrote: O Plameras wrote: First, what version of Horde are you using (Released or CVS) ? Horde 2.2.5 (Stable version) IMP 3.2.5 (Stable version) Second, did you use 'rpm' files or tar files ? tar Third, have you installed 'pear' modules ? Use batch command, like #pear install module name. Yes. Sorry. In my rush (some visitors arrived) I forgot to include those sort of details, which I included in the horde post. Fil Phil Scarratt wrote: Hi all Any Horde users out there? I'm really beating my head against a wall about this one. I'm trying to get Horde running, have it all installed with dependencies and all. The test page reports all ok. I get the login screen fine - but that's it. I try logging in and it accepts my login info but just dumps me back on the login page with both the username and password cleared. That's it. I look at the logs and it reports successful login. I am using imp for authentication. If I click on the mail link on the bottom toolbar of the login page and then enter the username and password, then it actually loads IMP (the webmail) and seems to work OK, as long as I don't use the toolbar at the bottom. I've tried using sql (mysql) as authentication for horde, and it works the first time as long as I don't click anywhere else (ie cannot open anything else after loggin on). Every time after that it does the same as above (dumps me back on login screen without any error message and with username cleared). I think it has something to do with cookies and sessions (using file based sessions in PHP). What seems to happen is that when I first load the login page, a session is started on the server. The successful login then seems to create/use a different session identifier and dumps the data into that, whilst the horde application keeps using the original one (which has no auth credentials in it so horde thinks no logon yet). What am I missing? It's gotta be something bizzare on the session handling under horde. I've done lots of googling and haven't come up with anything (google or the horde mailling lists which I am also joining and seeking help from). I'm either searching with the wrong phrases or there's nothing out there. I've come across similar problems - same symptoms, but no fixes. Anyone got any clues or links to good info on sessions in php? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
I'm all ears, unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably write the 'stack' technology. I don't know that it's a stack problem. I can think of two ways to do it: 1. Use the zany xml-rpc stuff in Javascript to do the query. This sounds like a nice idea in theory but I don't know how compatible it would be. Anyone played with this? Do this all the time in my web apps. It works relatively well with a few little draw backs.. You have to worry about carriage returns and single quotes in the data that is being returned in the javascript as this will cause parsing errors in JS.. It's rather quick though and if you write good JS then it should work on all modern browsers. You could always use a two/more step method (back to the web server) but I particularly don't like these :) Adam. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Horde or PHP sessions
O Plameras wrote: OK, let me just confirm a number of items to ensure we talking on the same 'frequency': 1. when you access HORDE, the web address is: http://your.domain.au/horde 2. if your docroot is /usr/html, then your installation has the ff structure: /usr/html/horde -where you untarred horde-2.2.5 -as horde (renaming 'horde-2.2.5' as 'horde') -important because all libs refs 'horde'. /usr/html/horde/imp -where you untarred imp-3.2.5 -as imp (renaming 'imp-3.2.5' as 'imp') 3. then in 'cd /usr/html/horde/config' you did, #for i in `ls *.dist`; do cp $i `basename $i .dist`; done 4. then in 'cd /usr/html/horde/imp/config' you did, #for i in `ls *.dist`; do cp $i `basename $i .dist`; done 5. in 'vi /usr/html/horde/config/registry.php', uncommented: $this-registry['auth']['login'] = 'imp'; $this-registry['auth']['logout'] = 'imp'; changed: 'status' = 'inactive'to 'status'='active' 6. in 'vi /usr/html/horde/imp/config/servers.php', modify to your correct mail server, domain name. I use standard UW-IMAP not Cyrus-IMAP. So, change 'server' = 'mail.acay.com.au' instead of 'server' = 'imap.example.com' 'maildomain' = 'acay.com.au' 'smtphost' = 'mail.acay.com.au' 'realm' = 'acay.com.au' instead of default example.com. So, once *.dist files have been copied to their operational config names, there are only two files to change to be able to login and use EMAIL functionalities. These two files are: /usr/html/horde/config/registry.php and /usr/html/horde/imp/config/servers.php. At this point there is no need to specify backend as IMP does not use it. Backend like MySQL is good for Turba, Kronolith, etc that use lots of data to store. Have fun. O Plameras Correct. Did all that, re-did and then did it again just to be sure. All to no avail. However, just to add something else into the mix, what I have just tried is downloading the rpm's from the horde ftp site (rh9 I think - I am using a derivative of RHEL3 - Centos) to see if they worked.which they did. The only difference in the procedure is the untarring as opposed to rpm'ing and the different versions (rpm's are horde-2.2.3, imp-3.2.1). I haven't tried turba yet (there is no rpm for turba so have to tarball it). I suspect the major difference is the version as opposed to rpm or tar. Maybe I should try the same version from tar instead of rpm? I hate relying on rpm for something like this. Think I'll look through change-logs to see if anything relevant has changed. Maybe it's an incompatability between horde 2.2.5 and PHP 4.3.2? Any ideas? Your help so far has been much appreciated... :) Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Horde or PHP sessions
Horde 2.2.5 works with PHP 4.1.0 and over. I have PHP 4.3.3. I have, #rpm -qa | grep php php-imap-4.3.3-6 -required php-4.3.3-6 -required php-domxml-4.3.3-6 -required php-xmlrpc-4.3.3.6 -required php-mysql-4.3.3.6--required if using backend mysql php-devel-4.3.3.6 --required php-odbc-4.3.3.6 --required if using backend odbc php-ldap-4.3.3.6 --required if using backend ldap #rpm -qa | grep http httpd-2.0.47-10 httpd-devel-2.0.47-10 I tried just now to download and install Horde 2.2.5 and IMP-3.2.5. Got it working on my machine. Does your mail server support UW-IMAP ? If not, I believe you can use POP though I have not tried. Perhaps, you have to check your php installation. I used 'rpms'. Phil Scarratt wrote: Correct. Did all that, re-did and then did it again just to be sure. All to no avail. However, just to add something else into the mix, what I have just tried is downloading the rpm's from the horde ftp site (rh9 I think - I am using a derivative of RHEL3 - Centos) to see if they worked.which they did. The only difference in the procedure is the untarring as opposed to rpm'ing and the different versions (rpm's are horde-2.2.3, imp-3.2.1). I haven't tried turba yet (there is no rpm for turba so have to tarball it). I suspect the major difference is the version as opposed to rpm or tar. Maybe I should try the same version from tar instead of rpm? I hate relying on rpm for something like this. Think I'll look through change-logs to see if anything relevant has changed. Maybe it's an incompatability between horde 2.2.5 and PHP 4.3.2? Any ideas? Your help so far has been much appreciated... :) Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HELP!!!
For pst files there is a tool that will break the file down into smaller mailbox files. it's called pstlib. have a look on freshmeat. I am currently using Ximian Evolution to manage my e-mail. Is there some way that I can import files from Microsoft Outlook (.PST) into Evolution. I would greatly appreciate any advice, or help for either of my problems. Regards, Dom L. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] asking about samba PDC for linux
Dear all I have my samba working as a PDC for my windows everything is working very well. now is there any way to configure samba as my Linux for PDC. since this samba is working extremely well for my network. or else is there any suggestion for having one PDC for any machine either microsoft windows, mac or even linux and unix many thanks in advance Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] asking about samba PDC for linux
pesoy misak wrote: Dear all I have my samba working as a PDC for my windows everything is working very well. now is there any way to configure samba as my Linux for PDC. since this samba is working extremely well for my network. or else is there any suggestion for having one PDC for any machine either microsoft windows, mac or even linux and unix Yes, Linux SAMBA PDC can be a server of MS Win, Mac, Other Linux, and Unix. With MS Win, client software comes native. With Linux and Unix, client software comes with SAMBA. With Mac you need client software called 'DAVE' from http://www.thursby.com. If you are constructing SMB networks with more that one subnets, your Linux SAMBA PDC must support backend DB such as LDAP (or MySQL recently) as there are requirements to replicate authentication DBs across subnets. You have to also integrate encryption softwares like openssl, cyrus-sasl, and kerberos as SMB networks do not have stringent indigenous security tools. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] asking about samba PDC for linux
pesoy misak wrote: Dear all I have my samba working as a PDC for my windows everything is working very well. now is there any way to configure samba as my Linux for PDC. since this samba is working extremely well for my network. or else is there any suggestion for having one PDC for any machine either microsoft windows, mac or even linux and unix not sure i understand fully, but this might help http://www.idealx.org/prj/samba/smbldap-howto.en.html dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Latex conversion
Hello all, I have a rather large latex file (40,000 lines) that will soon need to go to a publisher who is accustomed to receiving MSWord files. Latex2rtf chokes on the file (works on other smaller files) with no very useful information. I can produce xhtml files using tth + tidy. Is there some handy xhtml -- rtf converter? Or someway to use OpenOffice.org? OO can read the xhtml file w/o problem, but I don't see how to spit it out in a useful format. Any help/directions gratefully appreciated. System is Debian Woody. Thanks, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex conversion
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:59:02 +1000 Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have a rather large latex file (40,000 lines) that will soon need to go to a publisher who is accustomed to receiving MSWord files. I have my resume in latex and all the recruiter parasites insist on .doc. My solution was to use latex2html to generate nice clean HTML, then pass that through a python script to cleanup a few little things and finaly rename the HTML file to .doc. That manages to fool most recruiter parasites and msword. The above might be a solution. The other thing I was going to suggest is to find another publisher. I co-authored a Linux book a number of years ago (before OOo) and the publisher had decided to use staroffice when working with its Linux authors. Latex2rtf chokes on the file (works on other smaller files) with no very useful information. Yep, I had no usefult results out of that either. Is there some handy xhtml -- rtf converter? Or someway to use OpenOffice.org? OO can read the xhtml file w/o problem, but I don't see how to spit it out in a useful format. OOo can definitely read the HTML and can then spit out word files in a number of different versions. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Ever since GNOME development began, I have urged people to aim to make it as good as the Macintosh. To try to be like Windows is to try for second-best. - Richard Stallman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex conversion
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:36:40 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:59:02 +1000 Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have a rather large latex file (40,000 lines) that will soon need to go to a publisher who is accustomed to receiving MSWord files. I have my resume in latex and all the recruiter parasites insist on .doc. My solution was to use latex2html to generate nice clean HTML, then pass that through a python script to cleanup a few little things and finaly rename the HTML file to .doc. That manages to fool most recruiter parasites and msword. The above might be a solution. Clever - I'll give it a try. The other thing I was going to suggest is to find another publisher. I co-authored a Linux book a number of years ago (before OOo) and the publisher had decided to use staroffice when working with its Linux authors. Not an option, I'm afraid. This is the 5th edition of the work and I can't begin to imagine the legal consequences of trying to change. Although I would like to see some faces when someone suggests moving because of file formats!! Latex2rtf chokes on the file (works on other smaller files) with no very useful information. Yep, I had no usefult results out of that either. Is there some handy xhtml -- rtf converter? Or someway to use OpenOffice.org? OO can read the xhtml file w/o problem, but I don't see how to spit it out in a useful format. OOo can definitely read the HTML and can then spit out word files in a number of different versions. I get it to read OK, but then the only export option is to PDF. Version 1.1.2. Thanks Erik, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Ever since GNOME development began, I have urged people to aim to make it as good as the Macintosh. To try to be like Windows is to try for second-best. - Richard Stallman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex conversion
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:41:32 +1000 Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get it to read OK, but then the only export option is to PDF. Version 1.1.2. File - Save as will give you the option os saving as ms-word doc file. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ I'm not proud We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security. -- Brian Valentine, Senior Vice President of Microsoft's Windows development team -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex conversion
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:49:04 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:41:32 +1000 Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get it to read OK, but then the only export option is to PDF. Version 1.1.2. File - Save as will give you the option os saving as ms-word doc file. I thought it would too, but it doesn't: Options are .html;.htm .stw .vor .txt I get the option for ms-word when I start with a OOo document, but not when starting with an HTML (or even with your idea of an HTML document renamed with a .doc extension). Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ I'm not proud We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security. -- Brian Valentine, Senior Vice President of Microsoft's Windows development team -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Richard Stallman - bed
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 21:53 +1000, Lester Cheung wrote: What about a talk on a COMPSOC event at UNSW? I don't think Stallman would speak there unless UNSW changed its name to GNU/UNSW. AfC -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
