Re: [SLUG] NTP time server settings
John Clarke wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:23:07 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: Mandrake 10 provides a user-friendly install for NTP time server connection but it doesn't seem to actually adjust my time.. the modem light flickers but time doesn't change. I've tried uadelaide.edu.au and Check your firewall rules. You need to allow ntp (port 123 udp) in and out. I don't know mandrake but I got the impression that it's standard practice to have a rule like: # allow established connections, or related packets iptables --append block --match state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED --jump ACCEPT which will allow a replying NTP packet pass through. That's much more convenient (and secure, IMHO) than completly opening the NTP port. (in case you want to check if such a rule exists, the iptables -L output for it looks like: ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ) Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeking GNOME application for image manipulation
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004, Tony Green wrote: Before switching to the OSX dark (but purty) side, I used to use the nautilus script function to do rotations on selected files. I just had an imagemagik script which called convert(?) with the right params... I hadn't really thought about Nautilus scripting but that might be a go-er. (I'm not scripting averse, but a terminal doesn't let me see photographs and Nautilus does.) -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NTP time server settings
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 10:31:58 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Clarke wrote: Check your firewall rules. You need to allow ntp (port 123 udp) in and out. I don't know mandrake but I got the impression that it's standard practice to have a rule like: # allow established connections, or related packets iptables --append block --match state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED --jump ACCEPT which will allow a replying NTP packet pass through. That's much more convenient (and secure, IMHO) than completly opening the NTP port. I agree, but I was suggesting things that might be stopping ntp from working, not a step-by-step method of fixing it :-) If you want to be even more paranoid (and who doesn't?), you should only allow ntp packets out to the designated time server(s). Cheers, John -- One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NTP time server settings
The final straw that made me switch to Linux was when I was spending more time downloading and applying security patches and then allowing and not allowing my firewall to let my computer have strange conversations with outside forces, most of whom I suspect were located in Redmond, than I was actually working. Then there was the attack of the bios-eating worm. My computer became Typhoid Mary and then a dead badger (hey, but 2.6.8 supports CONFIG_BLK_DEV_BADGERSCSI). In short, I kind of hoped that I could kiss firewalls and viruses goodbye.. I only download non-executable code and don't open nonauthenticated email attachments. I only compile and / or run code from reputable source like sourceforge, Mandrake or Mozilla. Any other security issues here ? I thought the problem with Windows was the basic architecture itself, not being designed to live in a hostile environment whereas I understand Linux was. ?? cheers Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Clarke wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:23:07 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: Mandrake 10 provides a user-friendly install for NTP time server connection but it doesn't seem to actually adjust my time.. the modem light flickers but time doesn't change. I've tried uadelaide.edu.au and Check your firewall rules. You need to allow ntp (port 123 udp) in and out. I don't know mandrake but I got the impression that it's standard practice to have a rule like: # allow established connections, or related packets iptables --append block --match state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED --jump ACCEPT which will allow a replying NTP packet pass through. That's much more convenient (and secure, IMHO) than completly opening the NTP port. (in case you want to check if such a rule exists, the iptables -L output for it looks like: ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ) Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] USB2 speed gain
How can I be ensure that I have got the USB2 speed gain. I pluged a friends hard drive based mp3 player to move files across. The files were moving in normal USBv1 speed. I mounted it as normal.. the only thing I can think if it the mounting. Below is from /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbvfatnoauto,user,rw 0 0 -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] USB2 speed gain
Simon Males wrote: How can I be ensure that I have got the USB2 speed gain. I pluged a friends hard drive based mp3 player to move files across. The files were moving in normal USBv1 speed. I mounted it as normal.. the only thing I can think if it the mounting. Below is from /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbvfatnoauto,user,rw 0 0 I don't think it has anything to do with the mount. What does lsusb -v says about the device? I think the interesting piece of info is bcdUSB, which on my machine gives either 1.10 or 2.00 depending on the devide. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bind: rndc setup, where the keygen files go ?
Voytek wrote: well, using the docs you pointed out, it does tell me that the file is not required, but, I'm still not getting past 'connect failed: connection refused' This rings a very familiar bell - just a few weeks ago someone reportted exactly the same error (which says that nobody is listening on that port) with that application. Could it be that your dns server doesn't listen on that port? Or maybe rndc tries to connect to the wrong host/port? Try digging up the archives of the last month or two. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. If you insist on sticking with text database applications then how about going to http://freshmeat.net and typing text database in the search box? Here is a quick link to get you the results (161 of them): http://tinyurl.com/3t2ku HTH, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall
Hi, I've been using Smoothwall for about a month. I tested it using (amongst others): http://www.grc.com/ Go to 'shields up'. The site (though I've heard it has it's detractors) gives you an idea of which ports are stealthed/closed/open. One of my Win machines runs McAfee also (paranoid, me?) and it records only general activity on my home network - there are none of the repeated scans etc that generally occur on the 'net. From what I can gather, if you use the general setup, only port 113 is shown (as closed) - apparently some IRCs don't work if this is stealthed. I don't know if this is true as I don't use IRC software. You can also redirect port traffic from this port to a nonsense address (happy to exchange mail about this - it's new to me and I'm only just getting a chance to look at it). From my experience, overall, it would seem that Smoothwall works well... anybody else using it? Patrick -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall If anyone has some input I would be grateful, I have setup smoothwall at home and was wondering how it rates in security thanks for any input or advice Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia 612 9795 http://www.torchpublishing.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] networking dilema
I'm hoping someone can help with a problem I am having getting a Microsoft box and Linux box to recognise each other. The Microsoft box is running XP Pro and the Linux box is running Fedora. The IP addresses appear to be set up properly on each box but I cannot ping one to the other. Both boxes work well independently. I've checked the devices and everything seems to be working properly. When I ping I get destination host unreachable message. Please help Thanks, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall
Does anybody ever using Smoothwall with Dlink200 with TPG? I've tried IPCop but it seems can not connect to Internet. the box can ping the gateaway, but unable to ping DNS server. --- Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been using Smoothwall for about a month. I tested it using (amongst others): http://www.grc.com/ Go to 'shields up'. The site (though I've heard it has it's detractors) gives you an idea of which ports are stealthed/closed/open. One of my Win machines runs McAfee also (paranoid, me?) and it records only general activity on my home network - there are none of the repeated scans etc that generally occur on the 'net. From what I can gather, if you use the general setup, only port 113 is shown (as closed) - apparently some IRCs don't work if this is stealthed. I don't know if this is true as I don't use IRC software. You can also redirect port traffic from this port to a nonsense address (happy to exchange mail about this - it's new to me and I'm only just getting a chance to look at it). From my experience, overall, it would seem that Smoothwall works well... anybody else using it? Patrick -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall If anyone has some input I would be grateful, I have setup smoothwall at home and was wondering how it rates in security thanks for any input or advice Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia 612 9795 http://www.torchpublishing.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] networking dilema
Brad Dolph wrote: I'm hoping someone can help with a problem I am having getting a Microsoft box and Linux box to recognise each other. The Microsoft box is running XP Pro and the Linux box is running Fedora. The IP addresses appear to be set up properly on each box but I cannot ping one to the other. Both boxes work well independently. I've checked the devices and everything seems to be working properly. When I ping I get destination host unreachable message. Please help Thanks, Brad How are they physically connected? Can Linux ping XP? vice-versa? neither? What are the IP addresses? Any firewalls? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] networking dilema
make sure they both plugged into the hub/switch properly or crossover cable is connecting properly (heaven forbid, check your coaxial cable is working right) your problem from there is most likely that you havent set your network settings correctly you might pick something like windows IP 192.168.0.1 NETMASK 255.255.255.0 linux IP 192.168.0.2 NETMASK 255.255.255.0 other settings arent really that important, make sure they arent set or they will cause problems then try pinging 192.168.0.1 from linux or vice versa. Dean Brad Dolph wrote: I'm hoping someone can help with a problem I am having getting a Microsoft box and Linux box to recognise each other. The Microsoft box is running XP Pro and the Linux box is running Fedora. The IP addresses appear to be set up properly on each box but I cannot ping one to the other. Both boxes work well independently. I've checked the devices and everything seems to be working properly. When I ping I get destination host unreachable message. Please help Thanks, Brad -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] networking dilema
Let's see if we can get more info about your network because as it is the info supplied is insufficient. On your linux box, login as root. What is the output of 'arp' ? For example, I get this, [EMAIL PROTECTED] oscarp]$ su - root Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# arp Address HWtype HWaddress Flags Mask Iface otr.noy.com.au ether 00:11:2F:14:5A:18 C eth0 compaq.noy.com.au ether 00:10:5A:67:F2:A1 C eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# If you get something similar for your linux and Windows, this means that your cable connections are correct. If not, you have to fix it. If correct, the next thing to do is issue this command, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# route Kernel IP routing table Destination GatewayGenmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo You should get something similar to the above. If you do, it means your Linux TCP is configured correctly and you have to go back to your Win XP and check the TCP configuration, Now, to be able to route IP packets outside your network your Linux box should have a route output similar to the ff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# route Kernel IP routing table Destination GatewayGenmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default 192.168.1.100 0.0.0.0UG 0 00 eth0 Brad Dolph wrote: I'm hoping someone can help with a problem I am having getting a Microsoft box and Linux box to recognise each other. The Microsoft box is running XP Pro and the Linux box is running Fedora. The IP addresses appear to be set up properly on each box but I cannot ping one to the other. Both boxes work well independently. I've checked the devices and everything seems to be working properly. When I ping I get destination host unreachable message. Please help Thanks, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NTP time server settings
Rod Butcher wrote: The final straw that made me switch to Linux was when I was spending more time downloading and applying security patches and then allowing and not allowing my firewall to let my computer have strange conversations with outside forces, most of whom I suspect were located in Redmond, than I was actually working. Then there was the attack of the bios-eating worm. My computer became Typhoid Mary and then a dead badger (hey, but 2.6.8 supports CONFIG_BLK_DEV_BADGERSCSI). In short, I kind of hoped that I could kiss firewalls and viruses goodbye.. I only download non-executable code and don't open nonauthenticated email attachments. I only compile and / or run code I feel pretty secure running stuff as non-root, or open Microsoft Office documents using OpenOffice (and feel he he, I wouldn't dare do THIS on windows every time I do this). Am I too complacent? I have yet to catch a virus on my Linux machine :). But I also run chkrootkit from time to time and watch my logs. from reputable source like sourceforge, Mandrake or Mozilla. Any other security issues here ? I thought the problem with Windows was the basic architecture itself, not being designed to live in a hostile environment whereas I understand Linux was. ?? I think you are basically right - Windows was not designed for the harsh hostile environmnet that the Internet is today (or any hostile environment, for that matter. It's very naive actually). But the Internet is still a hostile environment and firewalls still have to be raised on anything connected to it. cheers Rod Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Archlinux
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:59:23 +1000 Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I have installed a base system, although as I mentioned to ctd lastnight it appears it lacks support out of the box for my nforce2 onboard ethernet. Should I go grab nvidia package for support and patch a kernel or something? I looked at the 2.6.3 kernel tree and I cant see no mention of nforce2 ethernet module/drivers. The stock Arch Linux kernel has support for it by default. I'm using Arch with an nforce board and i'm not having any problems at all. The Arch forums and wiki are a great resource for finding info on stuff like this. Any comments for me to go explore in attempt to get my ethernet working? If you know what driver Linux uses just do a modprobe modname and you should be fine. If you don't know what driver it uses, just google the chipset of the card to find out what driver it uses. Every single network driver under Linux is compiled as a module under Arch, so it'll be there when you modprobe it. Good luck, and welcome to the goodness of Arch Linux. :-) Lindsay -- http://www.asymmetrics.net/~auxesis/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New website rocks!
So LA have our new website. Finally! :) http://www.linux.org.au. Any breakages reported would be much appreciated! Rock on Australia, Pia -- Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
quote who=Pia Smith http://www.linux.org.au Rock on Australia, Phwoar! Sweet! ROCK ON AUSTRALIA! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ Whoever wrote [the Twisted documentation] uses a vivid and interesting style of prose which triggers pleasure. - Francois Pinard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] MythTV vs Freevo
So what have people tried and what was there experience with these things ? Any recommendations ? Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New site
Great new web site. Congrats to all involved. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Archlinux
For archives... The problem was the fact that 0.6 has issues with modules... modules I had listed in the rc.conf wouldn't load at boot (but I could load them manually via insmod pathtomodule etc) Updated to 0.7 via internet (one of the updated packages was modules init script) and this solved the problem. Slowly I am configuring the machine, and with the help of Chris (ctd) we should have some mythtv ported/compiled packages this weekend. Hopefully these happen, otherwise I am in a bad situation. Stay tuned... now that ethernet is working I have since installed various stuff and its quite nice. archlinux is pretty nice in its own sort of way. On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:44:53 +1000, Lindsay Holmwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:59:23 +1000 Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I have installed a base system, although as I mentioned to ctd lastnight it appears it lacks support out of the box for my nforce2 onboard ethernet. Should I go grab nvidia package for support and patch a kernel or something? I looked at the 2.6.3 kernel tree and I cant see no mention of nforce2 ethernet module/drivers. The stock Arch Linux kernel has support for it by default. I'm using Arch with an nforce board and i'm not having any problems at all. The Arch forums and wiki are a great resource for finding info on stuff like this. Any comments for me to go explore in attempt to get my ethernet working? If you know what driver Linux uses just do a modprobe modname and you should be fine. If you don't know what driver it uses, just google the chipset of the card to find out what driver it uses. Every single network driver under Linux is compiled as a module under Arch, so it'll be there when you modprobe it. Good luck, and welcome to the goodness of Arch Linux. :-) Lindsay -- http://www.asymmetrics.net/~auxesis/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MythTV vs Freevo
I am yet to setup mythtv for myself, hopefully in about 3 weeks time when my hdtv card is purchased. In the meantime I have played around with a friends mythtv setup and the web interface he has is quite nice. This feature alone has interested me. I am yet to see how else you work with it. On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:49:08 +1000, Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what have people tried and what was there experience with these things ? Any recommendations ? Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] networking dilema
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Brad Dolph wrote:
I'm hoping someone can help with a problem I am having getting a
Microsoft box and Linux box to recognise each other. The Microsoft box
is running XP Pro and the Linux box is running Fedora. The IP addresses
appear to be set up properly on each box but I cannot ping one to the
other. Both boxes work well independently.
I've checked the devices and everything seems to be working properly.
When I ping I get destination host unreachable message.
You really haven't given enough information to diagnose this.
How are the devices connected - via a hub? Switch? Directly? Are you 100%
certain the physical media in use is functioning {are the link lights on
the hub/switch/cards active?}
Are both devices in the same IP subnet - I.E. same address range subnet
mask? If not, do you have a routing device somewhere which knows about
both subnets involved?
For a start, what IP addresses/subnet masks are you using on each box?
What does ifconfig in the linux box show, and ipconfig /all on the windows
box show regarding the link.
DaZZa
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RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall
Yes. I'm using a dlink 200 USB and smoothwall. I've not used IPCOP, so, sorry, can't help. Patrick -Original Message- From: Phillipus Gunawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 8:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall Does anybody ever using Smoothwall with Dlink200 with TPG? I've tried IPCop but it seems can not connect to Internet. the box can ping the gateaway, but unable to ping DNS server. --- Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been using Smoothwall for about a month. I tested it using (amongst others): http://www.grc.com/ Go to 'shields up'. The site (though I've heard it has it's detractors) gives you an idea of which ports are stealthed/closed/open. One of my Win machines runs McAfee also (paranoid, me?) and it records only general activity on my home network - there are none of the repeated scans etc that generally occur on the 'net. From what I can gather, if you use the general setup, only port 113 is shown (as closed) - apparently some IRCs don't work if this is stealthed. I don't know if this is true as I don't use IRC software. You can also redirect port traffic from this port to a nonsense address (happy to exchange mail about this - it's new to me and I'm only just getting a chance to look at it). From my experience, overall, it would seem that Smoothwall works well... anybody else using it? Patrick -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall If anyone has some input I would be grateful, I have setup smoothwall at home and was wondering how it rates in security thanks for any input or advice Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia 612 9795 http://www.torchpublishing.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Re: How to fix a memory leak in an old kernel
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:21:59 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (with JRE 1.4.2-05) been more useable, but even then, when Eclipse runs out of memory, I have to reboot the machine. That's very strange - have you tried restartting Eclipse? How about increasing the JVM's memory limits (the -Xmx/-Xms flags)? When Eclipse runs out of memory, I can't restart it because it crashes with an java.lang.OutOfMemoryError. That's why I reboot my machine. As for increasing the memory limits, once Eclipse runs out of memory, no amount of memory flag tweaking will make Eclipse run again until I reboot the machine. In general - a program shouldn't cause the system to require a reboot just by hogging memory. I agree. However, since I'm using an earlier version of the kernel, I'm suspecting a kernel problem. But that's my guess. I run Eclipse 2.1 on Windows XP Prof at work for months now and though it sometimes very slow I don't remember havign to reboot Windows because of this. Now you are talking about Linux, which should be much better at this. I also run Eclipse 3.0 on Win XP Pro on a 3Ghz 1Gb P4, and it's very stable in that respect. Chris Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Linux Advocate for Parliament
Hi Nicholas, Nicholas Tomlin writes: Hell SLUGers, Interesting freudian ;) If elected to Parliament I will be pushing many barrows, one of them will be to convert the Australian computing landscape over to Open Source Software, But we already have the Democrats, Greens and even labor and liberal pushing open standards, and in some cases preference for open source. What else can you offer the community in terms of policy? Hell we are already involved helping form these policies :) I think most of the open source industry isn't in it to 'get M$', but rather to ensure an equal playing ground so the best software wins on its own merits, and we do have the best software ;) PS - A major contributing factor to the present economic collapse, is the anti-human, bestial policies represented by the rock-drug-sex counterculture which took off in the 1960s. The me first, me only policies championed by the counterculture, are precisely those also championed by the economic policies of globalisation, privatisation, etc.; indeed, the former has helped prepare the way for the latter. The CEC is committed, as is Mr. LaRouche, to urgently re-establishing a new Golden Renaissance, based upon the Classical tradition in art and philosophy, where the creative powers of each individual are fostered, to the benefit of both the individual, and of the entire society. ^what does this actually mean? How does CEC plan to re-establishing a new Golden Renaissance and based on what Classical traditions. Does CEC truly believe that humankind will breakdown from a little anarchy, are we that fragile? I think anarchy is good, it stops small amounts of people getting too much power :) It promotes individual thought, it ensures that we don't fall into a trap of habitual behaviour based around traditions that may be completely irrelevant in todays society. It keeps us living fully. Cheers, Pia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall
I use IPCOP regularly with all types of ethernet modems and routers. Feel free to contact me if I can help. What are the specific problems you're having? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elliott-Brennan Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 9:17 AM To: 'Phillipus Gunawan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall Yes. I'm using a dlink 200 USB and smoothwall. I've not used IPCOP, so, sorry, can't help. Patrick -Original Message- From: Phillipus Gunawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 8:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall Does anybody ever using Smoothwall with Dlink200 with TPG? I've tried IPCop but it seems can not connect to Internet. the box can ping the gateaway, but unable to ping DNS server. --- Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been using Smoothwall for about a month. I tested it using (amongst others): http://www.grc.com/ Go to 'shields up'. The site (though I've heard it has it's detractors) gives you an idea of which ports are stealthed/closed/open. One of my Win machines runs McAfee also (paranoid, me?) and it records only general activity on my home network - there are none of the repeated scans etc that generally occur on the 'net. From what I can gather, if you use the general setup, only port 113 is shown (as closed) - apparently some IRCs don't work if this is stealthed. I don't know if this is true as I don't use IRC software. You can also redirect port traffic from this port to a nonsense address (happy to exchange mail about this - it's new to me and I'm only just getting a chance to look at it). From my experience, overall, it would seem that Smoothwall works well... anybody else using it? Patrick -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] smoothwall for home firewall If anyone has some input I would be grateful, I have setup smoothwall at home and was wondering how it rates in security thanks for any input or advice Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia 612 9795 http://www.torchpublishing.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.764 / Virus Database: 511 - Release Date: 15/09/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.764 / Virus Database: 511 - Release Date: 15/09/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
Looks great and works fine in Firefox 0.9. Checked it in IE 6 SP1 and I can't click on any link or select text on the left hand half of the front page. Looks like a div is overlaying it. This wouldn't be a problem except the people we're trying to move away from windows would most likely be using IE. (exact version is 6.0.2800.1106 if anyone else can confirm). HTH, Paul Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Pia Smith" http://www.linux.org.au Rock on Australia, Phwoar! Sweet! ROCK ON AUSTRALIA! - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] New website rocks!
Hi all, Yes, I can confirm under IE6 SP1 6.0.2800.1106 the left hand text is not selectable, but I have no probs with that as it shows up fine under view source. Nice site though. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Paul Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 11:47 AM To: SLUG Cc: linux-aus Subject: Re: [SLUG] New website rocks! Looks great and works fine in Firefox 0.9. Checked it in IE 6 SP1 and I can't click on any link or select text on the left hand half of the front page. Looks like a div is overlaying it. This wouldn't be a problem except the people we're trying to move away from windows would most likely be using IE. (exact version is 6.0.2800.1106 if anyone else can confirm). HTH, Paul Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Pia Smith http://www.linux.org.au Rock on Australia, Phwoar! Sweet! ROCK ON AUSTRALIA! - Jeff -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Debian sarge on vmware
Finally got gnome running. The vmware driver needed to have no default depth chosen. I then got the following error when starting gnome: oafiid:gnome_Settingsdaemon had to restart too many times or something like that. I re-did apt-get install gnome-core and now only the screensaver isn't working. Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tillsley Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2004 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Debian sarge on vmware Oops, yep, that was it. Very silly of me. Cheers Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -Original Message- From: Ryan Tsai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 September 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Tillsley Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Debian sarge on vmware is xserver-xfree86 installed? - Original Message - From: Robert Tillsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [SLUG] Debian sarge on vmware I've got a test server setup in vmware running sarge (2.6 kernel). I've got two problems that I'm having trouble resolving: The first is that I can't get X working. Yes I know X on a server shouldn't be necessary on a server, but I'm playing with vmware. The error I get is: GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/X : -audit 0 auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 Error: Command could not be executed! Please install the X server or edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to point to the right place. Now I installed xfree68, but there is no X in that folder. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start troubleshooting? The other thing was in regard to installing the vmware tools. The menu which is meant to do it, doesn't work (I think its because its not designed to work with debian). Its asks if you want to and then doesn't provide any feedback as to its lack of success. In the bottom left of the vmware screen is says as it did before the attempt that the vmware tools aren't installed. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: New website rocks!
Ahh, sorry disagree. Regards, Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] New website rocks!
I just tried to go there again (http://www.linux.org.au) and it's reverting to http://old.linux.org.au// Maybe the new server is down-- it couldn't handle the SLUGdot effect!! Stuart. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
yep, something killed it good whos hosting it, and what is it running on? (der linux, but hardware) Dean Stuart Cooper wrote: I just tried to go there again (http://www.linux.org.au) and it's reverting to http://old.linux.org.au// Maybe the new server is down-- it couldn't handle the SLUGdot effect!! Stuart. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:06:26 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: yep, something killed it good I've just tried from three places: work, via connect.com.au, home, via Internode, and Zip's (Pacific) shell server (text only). All show the new page. Are you sure it's not a problem at your end? Cheers, John -- SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
I was seeing the new site (hence earlier posts) but did, for about 30 mins, get redirected to old.linux.org.au.. The new site is now back up though. Paul John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:06:26 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: yep, something killed it good I've just tried from three places: work, via connect.com.au, home, via Internode, and Zip's (Pacific) shell server (text only). All show the new page. Are you sure it's not a problem at your end? Cheers, John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:06:26 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: yep, something killed it good I've just tried from three places: work, via connect.com.au, home, via Internode, and Zip's (Pacific) shell server (text only). All show the new page. Are you sure it's not a problem at your end? I also saw it revert to the old pages. I wouldn't describe the new site as something that 'rocks'. What's a geek's definition of 'rocks' in the context of web sites ? :-) Oh that question is prob something thats best for a slug-chat :-) Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
NOW its working. it was working this morning, but when i saw the post that it was down and so i checked it and had the same result here at work we area connected via commindico 1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 172.16.2.254 2 10 ms15 ms 10 ms eth1-bdr3.pen.pnc.com.au [203.91.245. 315 ms 10 ms16 ms eth4-bdr2.pen.pnc.com.au [203.91.225. 463 ms * 78 ms 105.54.220.203.comindico.com.au [203. 546 ms79 ms * fe0-0.wsr01-stge-pth.comindico.com.au 8.55] 663 ms78 ms78 ms eftel-link.pth.comindico.com.au [203. 762 ms63 ms 297 ms indigo-gw.per.dft.net.au [202.61.225. 862 ms79 ms 109 ms digital.linux.org.au [202.0.185.5] thats pretty close Dean John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:06:26 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: yep, something killed it good I've just tried from three places: work, via connect.com.au, home, via Internode, and Zip's (Pacific) shell server (text only). All show the new page. Are you sure it's not a problem at your end? Cheers, John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Web-team] Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
First of all, thanks for the feedback - it is appreciated Brian Robson said: The idea of having a new website for LA is great, but this new website does not ROCK at all. It has serious design and usability errors, a few of which are outlined below. But these are easily fixed. I wouldn't really call them too serious... but you're right, they are easily fixed. We've tried (over the past few weeks/months/whatever) to fix up most issues with standards compliance and consistency across rendering engines (this is tricky). Some of the smaller things have escaped this initial deployment - but hey, when you release something to a wide audience - you instantly get a set of good bug reports :) SLUGGers should not be deluded - good web sites only come from hard work, good content and attention to detail (just like programming) and not from having graphics designers using the latest fashion in typefaces and colour schemes. A good website is not made by deluding oneself that your own site is the best, and that critism is inappropriate or the critic must be a nasty person. Exactly. We've tried to keep to these principles with the new LA site. Of course, some things slip through - but they're easily fixed :) A lot of hard work has gone into this one :) Designing website is now a technology taught at TAFE (there are heaps of books on usability) and has not been a guru craft or a black art since 1998. Wages for people who build build sites have fallen from $130 per hour to $30 per hour. But *good* sites that are standards compliant, cross-rendering engine and compatible with accessibility stuff is hard. People still get paid very well for being able to do this. I'm not an expert, and either is most of the other people working on the team - but we do know some, and they've been invaluable over the development period of giving us some assistance when they can. I strongly encourage experts to help us :) contributions are welcome! 1. The logo on the main page can be clicked, and when it is, it displays the SAME page again. Whilst it is normal for the logo when clicked to return to the home page or all subsidiary pages, this is a big no-no on the main page. All textbooks on usability recommend against having anything which simply displays the same page, as users find it very confusing. Good argument - but point is arguable... consistency across each page? Hrrm... one for thought. May change it... not sure... 2. None of the images are sized with width= and height= tags. This causes the page to jump around while it's loading, and this is even more annoying on dial up lines and on the first visit. The worst example is the main logo, because it's above the fold on the first page. Yes - this is a known flaw with the current layout. I plan to fix this by going through with id's and css foo sometime soon. It was not deemed a show stopper. 3. The Linux Australia title includes a trailing space. Bug - will be fixed. 4. The menu choice at the top left includes links to things on the site and off the site. This is bad practice (a) it confuses the users and (b) Do your really want to provide links for your users to leave your site at the top of your main page. (you are a dill if you do). (top right i hope you mean... unless some bug has crept in :) These 'external' sites are actually run by linux australia. Linux.conf.au comes under our banner (even though it is very much delegated to the lca organisers). We also run the opensource.org.au domain. We don't see these to be problematic - far from it, we see them as useful links into the .au open source space. 5. The font at the very bottom of the page is far too small. It's only minor info to be sure, but the font is still too small. If it's not to be read, then simply take it off. Also, this bit has weird added spaces which are just confusing and do not add to the enjoyment. Bug has crept in - someone changed the CSS to have a hard font size of 9. Will fix this to be a relative size. 6. Under the heading Sept 10th, RSS, there is a symbol, which is perhaps trying to look like a diamond replacing a dot point. It's made out of the gt and lt characters. In fact it looks weird, like a coding error to anyone who has seen faulty web pages (all of us). Why not just use a bolded asterisk??? Will examine - the RSS stuff has gone through a couple of revisions and we're still getting everything working just right. 7. At the top, the link to linux.conf.au does not work. Was there any testing at all??? The destination underneath is not the same as the displayed text neither. The www (and the trailing slash for directories) should be on all href= links. Currently fixed. Was a fault in the migration process (not as easy as you'd think). 8. The main page link Membership goes to the Membership Database which is not the same thing, and confusing to users. Closer reading of the Membership Database page does tell how to join.
Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
someone training for user support {:-) wrote:
Are you sure it's not a problem at your end?
ROFL.
Nope, it was definitely a site problem.
Working now.
Definitely slow.
I preferred the old one myself. There wasn't this question of where to
find stuff?.
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Re: [Linux-aus] Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
Paul Robinson said: Looks great and works fine in Firefox 0.9. rockin! Checked it in IE 6 SP1 and I can't click on any link or select text on the left hand half of the front page. Looks like a div is overlaying it. This wouldn't be a problem except the people we're trying to move away from windows would most likely be using IE. (exact version is 6.0.2800.1106 if anyone else can confirm). Okay... thanks for the report. We're aware of some more issues with IE. It seems that IE can behave *very* differently depending on what version of Windows your running. I only have an NT4 license, so have been doing testing on it. It looks like i'm going to have to get an XP one just for this. We are currently investigating this issue though, and it will be fixed shortly. Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Pia Smith http://www.linux.org.au Rock on Australia, Phwoar! Sweet! ROCK ON AUSTRALIA! ahh yes... we rock. -- Stewart Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.flamingspork.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Web-team] Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 14:56 +1000, Stewart Smith wrote: Yes. Will be clarified in the next memberdb release. Wit the main website largely done now (apart from fixups and maintenance) i should be able to spend more time getting memberdb up to scratch. In my defense - i'm only currently calling it version 0.2 :) Thank you very much for your valuable feedback - it is much appreciated. Any chance you could make the source available? That way you can get patches from web-ninjas everywhere to make it better. James. -- James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Web-team] Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
James Gregory said: Any chance you could make the source available? That way you can get patches from web-ninjas everywhere to make it better. This probably does make sense, yes. We'll discuss this within ctte/web team - i don't forsee any objections, probably just do a quick check to make sure there's nothing in the history that needs protecting. Since (very occationally) we need to restrict parts of the website (namely sections of minutes) - often for legal reasons - we may have to work something out there. We keep the site in tla (GNU Arch), so publishing an archive is easy (mmm... merges :) Will keep you posted. -- Stewart Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.flamingspork.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: How to fix a memory leak in an old kernel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:21:59 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (with JRE 1.4.2-05) been more useable, but even then, when Eclipse runs out of memory, I have to reboot the machine. That's very strange - have you tried restartting Eclipse? How about increasing the JVM's memory limits (the -Xmx/-Xms flags)? When Eclipse runs out of memory, I can't restart it because it crashes with an java.lang.OutOfMemoryError. That's why I reboot my machine. As for increasing the memory limits, once Eclipse runs out of memory, no amount of memory flag tweaking will make Eclipse run again until I reboot the machine. In general - a program shouldn't cause the system to require a reboot just by hogging memory. I agree. However, since I'm using an earlier version of the kernel, I'm suspecting a kernel problem. But that's my guess. After reading what you wrote above I agree - it sounds like a kernel memory leak. Do you have statistics about the kernel memory usage (e.g. vmstat)? --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
