Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?
Rod Butcher wrote: Hi Patrick, can you spare a minute to give me a brief overview of what's required to achieve this ? I can't stand Gimp, and would love to be able to run Photoshop (I have V 4). Amazing, I have used Photoshop V4.5, 6 and 7 but find the latest version of the GIMP much better and definitely easier to use. Oh well, each to his own I guess. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu
I finaly got my Ubuntu CDs in the mail today, yeah!! I will test the live CD and let all know my thoughts Chris --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Installfest call to arms
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 16:46 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: > The advertised start time is 9:30. We need as many helpers as possible > to be there from 8:30 to get ready. Coffee will be provided for the > hard > of waking (I know I'll be needing it). Sorry, those times should be 10am and 9am respectively. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Installfest call to arms
So, the last installfest for the year is coming up this weekend. This time we've booked a room at the University of Western Sydney's Parramatta campus. Details at http://slug.org.au/events/detail.html?id=162 Volunteers needed for the following: - Room setup and teardown - Greeting people at the door, helping move equipment around - Wandering around looking (and being!) helpful. We usually get a significant number of people just turning up to see what this whole linux thing is about. Having advocates on hand is useful. - Brief talks on... stuff. There's no set program yet, I'll do one on the day. - Some installers, I suppose. :-) - Oversee network/power/CD burning stuff Reply to activities if you're planning on coming to help out. The advertised start time is 9:30. We need as many helpers as possible to be there from 8:30 to get ready. Coffee will be provided for the hard of waking (I know I'll be needing it). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?
Hi Patrick, can you spare a minute to give me a brief overview of what's
required to achieve this ? I can't stand Gimp, and would love to be able
to run Photoshop (I have V 4).
thanks
Rod
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 12:50 +1100, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
> Chris is right. I've got Photoshop running in Crossover. It requires more
> grunt than if it's run in the other OS (not the fruit you can eat :) but
> that's a small price to pay (for extra RAM if necessary). It runs well on a
> P4 with 256M RAM in the 'other', so you need more to run it to the same level
> under Linux using Codeweaver.
>
> That said, it's very easy to set up.
>
> Patrick
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> Chris said:
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> I think CodeWeavers Crossover Office might commercially support these.
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> Chris
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> quote("Peter Hardy");
>
> -i'm a photographer (& webkeeper) and wondering about image manip apps
> using Linux-eg. does photoshop and fireworks work on linux?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>*Some* windows applications work under Linux using a package called WINE
> >>(http://winehq.com/). From memory, you will probably have some luck
> >>getting Photoshop to work.
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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available
> That said, first five originals to the first five mailers - I'll reply > to those who miss out - because it's polite to not keep you hanging on :)) Oof, I hope this doesn't turn out like gmail invites. Remember, that anyone can order them for free at shipit.ubuntulinux.org, and I have over 500 CDs (and counting) to hand out at various events. Don't waste your own - give them to people who haven't tried Linux, and who could do with your help! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australiahttp://linux.conf.au/ "Blessed are the cracked, for they let in the light." - Spike Milligan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu CDs available
Hi All, Finally, a way I can give back to the group all the help I've received :) I've just received some Ubuntu CDs through the mail. I'm keeping a couple for friends and so have five to give away. I live in Belmore, so if anyone lives/works in the inner west and wants to pick up a copy - be my guest. E-mail me directly and we can arrange a time. I'm happy to post if you send a reply-paid whatsi - or to burn if you want to send a disc in a reply-paid whatsi. By the way, they also sent copies of their 'Live' distro so if you want that too, send two CDs. I'm desperately trying to make the time to come to the Installfest, so if someone wants one and is going to be there... That said, first five originals to the first five mailers - I'll reply to those who miss out - because it's polite to not keep you hanging on :)) Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Photoshop in Linux WAS [SLUG] Newbie -when is next slug meet?
Chris is right. I've got Photoshop running in Crossover. It requires more grunt than if it's run in the other OS (not the fruit you can eat :) but that's a small price to pay (for extra RAM if necessary). It runs well on a P4 with 256M RAM in the 'other', so you need more to run it to the same level under Linux using Codeweaver.
That said, it's very easy to set up.
Patrick
Chris said:
I think CodeWeavers Crossover Office might commercially support these.
Chris
quote("Peter Hardy");
-i'm a photographer (& webkeeper) and wondering about image manip apps
using Linux-eg. does photoshop and fireworks work on linux?
*Some* windows applications work under Linux using a package called WINE
(http://winehq.com/). From memory, you will probably have some luck
getting Photoshop to work.
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Re: [SLUG] Compile tutorial
Thanks Ian, the link you provided at http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_toc.html is exactly what I was looking for. cheers Rod On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 09:48 +1100, Ian Wienand wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 12:27:00AM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: > > Sluggers, can somebody point me to a tutorial on the various components > > in software building (newbie-comprehensible) :- > > You'll need to understand the general concept of makefiles > > http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html > > and then the best tutorial style reference is the autobook > > http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_toc.html > > There is a bit of a learning curve. > > > I've been getting by by ./configure, make, make install but beyond > > that I'm lost... e.g I untarred a source package and copied latest > > updated source and Makefile.am files from CVS into it and then did > > my standard ./configure etc. dance, which leads to link errors, so I > > obviously don't know what I'm doing). I need to know how/why these > > files are generated etc. > > I'm not sure why you need to copy parts of a CVS tree into a source > tarball; can't you just build the CVS tree? Usually there will be a > script in the root directory of the CVS tree called autogen.sh or > similar that will run the autoconf tools for you. You just need to > ensure the tool versions you have match what the developers are using. > > -i > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu is in
Rajnish wrote: Sorry for ignorance folks - but what is the diff between live and install CDs ? - An install CD will install it to your hard disk. - A live CD boots up and runs Ubuntu but does not installl anything to your hard disk so you can try it out. Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials & Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu is in
Rajnish wrote: Terry Collins wrote: FYI. Live & install CDs. Sorry for ignorance folks - but what is the diff between live and install CDs ? Regards, Rajnish from the ubuntulinux.org site "The download sites listed below include both Install CDs for various architectures, and a Live CD for Intel X86 architectures. The Live CD contains a full Ubuntu desktop installation that you can safely try on your Windows-based computer without installing anything on your hard disk. To try the Live CD, place the CD in your CD-ROM drive and reboot your computer. The Live CD also contains Windows versions for several of the applications including in Ubuntu. To install the open source software for Windows, place the Live CD in your CD-ROM drive while in Windows and follow the instructions that appear on your screen." Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu is in
Terry Collins wrote: FYI. Live & install CDs. Sorry for ignorance folks - but what is the diff between live and install CDs ? Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu is in
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Re: [SLUG] talks last night
Ken Foskey wrote: I would like to thank the three people from last night. These were extremely interesting talks. We had a talk on IP telephony. This was great and the idea of a IP phone that plugs into my network for overseas calls without a computer sounds great. (Easy is good right now...) Damn! I've really gotta make it to a meeting. :( This woulda been a good one to hear. Any chance of notes being posted? Wasn't recorded anywhere by any chance?? In fact the same applies to the other two Ken's mentioned below. Keep up the good work guys!! We had a talk on a Legal initiative and this sounds great. I was pushing them to set up something like groklaw Aust then I can understand the Australian laws as well as the US laws (mind you FTA is screwing that up a LOT!) Finally Luke talking about accessibility for the blind and frameworks. This was an excellent talk and puts us developers on notice to understand the other side. Thanks one and all, excellent meeting. Bowling with laptops next month :-) Ouch! Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] anyone know of good reliable community servers out there, besides CAT?
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[SLUG] Kmail/Kontact weirdness.....goodbye IMAP cache :(
OK, so what I was doing wasn't exactly "supported" but it doesn't explain why Kontact decided to hose several hundred megs worth of IMAP cache (I have a backup on the USA mail server, but it's gonna take all day to resync; 500MB+ over 384kbps WAN lineugh!). Let me explain. This laptop floats around 4 different networks (work, home, uni and "offline"). To avoid getting annoying "Kmail can't connect to server FOO" when operating in these environments, I've been dicking around with kmailrc using sed to stop interval checking on a server-by-server (environment-by-environment) basis. The problem is my uni account can't be accessed off-campus via IMAP, so it's disabled everywhere except on campus, home and work are accessible everywhere (except offline) and nothing is available offline. I wrote a little script so during startup, it detects the profile I'm running with, grabs the kmailrc.$PROFILE.sed script, which modifies the kmailrc file and everything is happy. The sed script is just a bunch of s/foo/bar/g type things, like; s/checkmail\=true/checkmail\=false/g (Any short-hand pointers appreciatedbeen a while since I did any hard-core sedding) Except when (for testing) I forced the kmail config into "Office" profile while offline. Started Kontact, and ta-ta IMAP cache! Whoa!! I know the kmailrc file holds all sorts of black magic for actually keeping track of IMAP cache changes etc but why did it arbitrarily hose my maildirs? Any KDE guru's want to comment? Yeh - I'll LART myself for not making a local backup of my IMAP cache before poking around with kmailrc. Cheers, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Compile tutorial
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 12:27:00AM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: > Sluggers, can somebody point me to a tutorial on the various components > in software building (newbie-comprehensible) :- You'll need to understand the general concept of makefiles http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html and then the best tutorial style reference is the autobook http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_toc.html There is a bit of a learning curve. > I've been getting by by ./configure, make, make install but beyond > that I'm lost... e.g I untarred a source package and copied latest > updated source and Makefile.am files from CVS into it and then did > my standard ./configure etc. dance, which leads to link errors, so I > obviously don't know what I'm doing). I need to know how/why these > files are generated etc. I'm not sure why you need to copy parts of a CVS tree into a source tarball; can't you just build the CVS tree? Usually there will be a script in the root directory of the CVS tree called autogen.sh or similar that will run the autoconf tools for you. You just need to ensure the tool versions you have match what the developers are using. -i [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FTA book
On Mon Nov 29, 2004 at 09:24:53 +1100, Pia Smith wrote: >Hi all, > >Just in case it wasn't posted, > >"It's hard to believe an Australian government could sign a deal which >so betrays Australia's interests. How to Kill a Country demonstrates how >the FTA as negotiated will seriously damage Australia's institutions, >interests and identity." > >http://www.allen-unwin.com.au/rights/product.asp?ISBN=1741145856 > I love the reviews: 'Scaremongering nonsense' The Hon Mark Vaile, MP, Minister for Trade Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] FTA book
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[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Code Fest!
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 01:16:16PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 10:11:40PM +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote: > > When: > > Saturday, November 27, 10:00am - 10:00pm > > Where: > > CSE/UNSW Kensington, "Seminar Room" > > Map / Transport: http://slug.org.au/events/cse.html > > > > We're holding a Debian RC Bug Squish and general Code Fest. The idea of > > of the day is to have a social, coding day, learn a few things, close > > some Debian RC Bugs or just hack the day away on what ever takes your > > fancy. For those with a punting itch or a taste for bloodsports, we'll > > be running a book on whether this boast > > http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/11/msg00231.html will be > > fulfilled. Get in early for ring side seats. There'll be a 22:00 til > > late kick-on at a nearby house with plenty of room and net access for > > those with a need for it. > > > > Food and drink will be organised throughout the day and dinner be held > > afterwards at a venue decided on by the participants. There's also ample > > on-site parking. > > Hi Craig, Hi Sluggers, > > Unfortunately I will be unable to make this worthy event on account of > a) not being in Sydney on the day and b) it being my birthday (though > that doesn't imply that I don't hack on such occasions). > > If any one wants to take a look at the small mountain of bugs > logged against the various kernel packages then happiness will > instantly become Debian users all over the world. You can find (most) > of these by looking for bugs logged against [EMAIL PROTECTED] > in the BTS. > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=maint&data=debian-kernel%40lists.debian.org&archive=no > > 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 are both slated for inclusion with Sarge, so please > focus on them. 2.4.26 and 2.6.7 are _old_ and no longer maintained and > should be removed from d.o before Sarge. Bugs against those kernels > should either be closed or moved to 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 respectively. 2.6.9 > is _new_ and at this stage there are no plans to include this in Sarge, > however bugs in 2.6.9 usually effect 2.6.8 as well, so backports are > welcome. > > In particular if people happen to have the particular hardware that > a bug is logged against and are able to test out patches from > the BTS or elsewhere this would be imensely useful. > > If you log any discoveries/fixes/whatever in the BTS, send them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BTS messages go to this list anyway), or > for the somewhat bashful send them to me directly, I will try and make > sure your contributions get included, and more importantly help more > people to be able to use debian on more systems. Hi Again, I'm still not in Sydney (I will be soon, but not soon enough for tomorrow's event). One reason is that I am currently chaned to the wheel, working on updating the 2.4.27 source package that will be used as the basis for the 2.4 kernel used on Sarge (well that is my plan anyway). At the same time I am also up dating the corresponding kernel-image package for i386. http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/11/msg00450.html If anyone has a chance to look at and/or test the candidate packages that I have made available I would be most grateful. In particular I am looking for kernel-crash bugs that have patches but are not included in this package. Goodies: http://debian.vergenet.net/pending/kernel-source-2.4.27-2.4.27/ http://debian.vergenet.net/pending/kernel-image-2.4.27-i386-2.4.27/ Changes: http://debian.vergenet.net/pending/kernel-source-2.4.27-2.4.27/kernel-source-2.4.27_2.4.27-6_i386.changes http://debian.vergenet.net/pending/kernel-image-2.4.27-i386-2.4.27/kernel-image-2.4.27-i386_2.4.27-6_i386.changes N.B: for reasons that I won't go into because they are _tedious_ and _lame_ I am liable to update these packages without changing the version number, so please look at the dates for any changes. Current version is dated 26th November. -- Horms [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Kernel Team Member, amongst other things -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Meeting this Friday night, 26th Nov
Hi all I am pretty much a Linux Newbie; have played with a few different distros, including Ubuntu, Mepis, Mandrake, etc. But know little about using command line, compiling kernels, etc. Fairly experienced Windows user Will I be likely to get something out of tomorrow night's meeting? Or will it all go over the top of my head? thanks Noel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: No response to bowling for December meeting
I'm definatly up for some bowling action. I haven't gone bowling since I left the great white north (which is now also the frozen great white north. Poor suckers). Count me in for sure. Cheers Jeff Thank you for choosing LinuxQuestions. http://www.linuxquestions.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 20, Issue 78
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt said: Sounds like your change management procedures could do with a tune up. yes, (said sheepishly crawling into a corner) Possibly you previously had a kernel with everything compiled-in, so the kernel did all it's automated hardware detection on startup. > everything was a module I think what you want is discover, discover2, or one of the other similarly functioned packages. I though I did the required homework ie 1) checked all nic modules in kernel compile. 2) listed the nics covered by 2.6.6 and sought out a new one that was in this list 3) inserted the new nic 4) booted and you know the rest Admittedly, I allowed only 2hrs between hardware changeover and deadline, but there was no choice as old nic was then v unreliable. How can a nic be checked for reliabilty? It only showed unreliabilty happened in the last 12 hrs of its life. what else should have I done to avoid this? Jeff said- Your best bet is to use hotplug, which automatically instantiates drivers for the attached devices at startup. It doesn't change /etc/modules, it just re-detects at every startup. (Ubuntu uses hotplug and udev by default, btw.) ahh, of course, this is how knoppix works, and what I used to get back on the net. It found the nic! Best rescue disk ever! thanks both of you for your help, I have some homework to do - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
