Re: [SLUG] Re: Insert text at the beginning of a file

2004-12-15 Thread Dan Treacy
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Ouch
a problem begging for perl as a solution!
James

Probably, but seeing as though my shell skills are half a step above 
totally crap and my perl skills are 4 steps below shell it is :-)

And thanks everyone for your suggestions I haven't had a chance to test 
any of them out. maybe tonight.

Dan.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Insert text at the beginning of a file

2004-12-15 Thread Daniel Bush
Dan Treacy wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ouch
a problem begging for perl as a solution!
James

Probably, but seeing as though my shell skills are half a step above 
totally crap and my perl skills are 4 steps below shell it is :-)

And thanks everyone for your suggestions I haven't had a chance to 
test any of them out. maybe tonight.

Dan.
If you're talking about inserting text at the beginning of a file, than 
perl has a tidy way of doing it all for you:

$ perl -pi -e s/^/foobar\n/ if ($.==1); test.file
That's pretty easy!
See the 'perlrun' manpage.
Doesn't seem to work if test.file is empty ie 0 lines.
Nice variation where you can say '-i.orig' and you will have the 
original stored with a '.orig' extension, or whatever you want.
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[SLUG] Dude- what happened to my yum!

2004-12-15 Thread Linley Caetan
running yum update:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] linley]# yum update
Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)
Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base
Server: Fedora Core 1 Dag Wieers' repository
retrygrab() failed for:
 http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc2/en/i386/dag/headers/header.info
 Executing failover method
failover: out of servers to try
Error getting file 
http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc2/en/i386/dag/headers/header.info
[Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] linley]#

My yum.conf is:
[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
debuglevel=2
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
pkgpolicy=newest
distroverpkg=redhat-release
tolerant=1
exactarch=1
[base]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base
baseurl=ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/#baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/
[updates-released]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates
baseurl=ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
#baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
[livna-stable]
name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (stable)
baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/stable
gpgcheck=1
[livna-unstable]
name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (unstable)
baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/unstable
gpgcheck=1
[livna-testing]
name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (testing)
baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/testing
gpgcheck=1
[dag]
name=Fedora Core 1 Dag Wieers' repository
baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc$releasever/en/i386/dag
[freshrpms]
name=Fedora Core $releasever freshrpms
baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpms
  
http://freshrpms.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpms
   

[updates-released]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates
baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
#[updates-testing]
#name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates
#baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/
#[development]
#name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree
#baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
[xcyb-stable]
name=Fedora Core 2 ( xcyborg / stable )
baseurl=http://rpms.xcyb.org/fedora/2/stable/
[xcyb-bleeding]
name=Fedora Core 2 ( xcyborg / bleeding )
baseurl=http://rpms.xcyb.org/fedora/2/bleeding/
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[SLUG] Fedora Core 3 Apache 2.0.52

2004-12-15 Thread Howard Lowndes
I can't get apache to read my /var/www/html/index.html file.  The log
complains about:
(13)Permission denied: access to /index.html denied
and presents the default Test Page instead.

Another thing, when Apache starts, it also complains that my virtual
site DocumentRoot doesn't exist.

It is _not_ a perms problem as far as I can make out as the
DocumentRoots are recursively owned apache.apache

The symptom almost looks like Apache is trying to run in a chroot jail
but I can't see where this is configured.

This is a change over from an Apache 1 server running on RH6.2 but the
only changes I have made to the httpd.conf file is to include the
VirtualHosts sections and turn on the NameVirtualHost directive.

Any pointers to what I might have missed.  I have tried to go thru the
doco on the Apache site but it's not too helpful.

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Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 3 Apache 2.0.52

2004-12-15 Thread O Plameras
Howard Lowndes wrote:
I can't get apache to read my /var/www/html/index.html file.  The log
complains about:
(13)Permission denied: access to /index.html denied
and presents the default Test Page instead.
Another thing, when Apache starts, it also complains that my virtual
site DocumentRoot doesn't exist.
It is _not_ a perms problem as far as I can make out as the
DocumentRoots are recursively owned apache.apache
The symptom almost looks like Apache is trying to run in a chroot jail
but I can't see where this is configured.
This is a change over from an Apache 1 server running on RH6.2 but the
only changes I have made to the httpd.conf file is to include the
VirtualHosts sections and turn on the NameVirtualHost directive.
Any pointers to what I might have missed.  I have tried to go thru the
doco on the Apache site but it's not too helpful.
 


Show us your 'httpd.conf'
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Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 3 Apache 2.0.52

2004-12-15 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 09:32, O Plameras wrote:
 Howard Lowndes wrote:
 
 I can't get apache to read my /var/www/html/index.html file.  The log
 complains about:
 (13)Permission denied: access to /index.html denied
 and presents the default Test Page instead.
 
 Another thing, when Apache starts, it also complains that my virtual
 site DocumentRoot doesn't exist.
 
 It is _not_ a perms problem as far as I can make out as the
 DocumentRoots are recursively owned apache.apache
 
 The symptom almost looks like Apache is trying to run in a chroot jail
 but I can't see where this is configured.
 
 This is a change over from an Apache 1 server running on RH6.2 but the
 only changes I have made to the httpd.conf file is to include the
 VirtualHosts sections and turn on the NameVirtualHost directive.
 
 Any pointers to what I might have missed.  I have tried to go thru the
 doco on the Apache site but it's not too helpful.
 
   
 
 
 
 Show us your 'httpd.conf'

I'll hold on that.  It looks like a SELinux issue, which I am currently
working on.  http://lwn.net/Articles/105409/

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Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 3 Apache 2.0.52

2004-12-15 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 09:44, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 I'll hold on that.  It looks like a SELinux issue, which I am currently
 working on.  http://lwn.net/Articles/105409/
 
Yep, that was it.  Once I disabled SELinux then it all worked.

Mind you, disabling SELinux is definitely _not_ a Good Idea (tm), but
frankly I found the LWN srticle difficult to read and understand and I
would dearly like to find a Dummies Guide(tm) to understanding the
concept of contexts in SEL.

The article refers to altered versions of some utilities that can
display the enhanced filesystem settings; one of them being ls.  Oddly
enough the ls that is in the distro doesn't recognise the additional
option  for this function.

The nam page for the chcon command also refers to the info chcon page,
which unfortunately does not provide additional doco but is an exact
copy of the man page.

Sigh...


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Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 3 Apache 2.0.52

2004-12-15 Thread O Plameras
Howard Lowndes wrote:
Mind you, disabling SELinux is definitely _not_ a Good Idea (tm), but
frankly I found the LWN srticle difficult to read and understand and I
would dearly like to find a Dummies Guide(tm) to understanding the
concept of contexts in SEL.
The article refers to altered versions of some utilities that can
display the enhanced filesystem settings; one of them being ls.  Oddly
enough the ls that is in the distro doesn't recognise the additional
option  for this function.
The nam page for the chcon command also refers to the info chcon page,
which unfortunately does not provide additional doco but is an exact
copy of the man page.
 

Try this one:
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=20372group_id=21266

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Re: [SLUG] Dude- what happened to my yum!

2004-12-15 Thread i386
Dude this is because
http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc2/en/i386/dag/headers/header.info does not exist
on the server. Chances are the path has changed (so go look up the new
path)

 running yum update:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linley]# yum update
 Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)
 Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base
 Server: Fedora Core 1 Dag Wieers' repository
 retrygrab() failed for:
   http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc2/en/i386/dag/headers/header.info
   Executing failover method
 failover: out of servers to try
 Error getting file
 http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc2/en/i386/dag/headers/header.info
 [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linley]#

 My yum.conf is:
 [main]
 cachedir=/var/cache/yum
 debuglevel=2
 logfile=/var/log/yum.log
 pkgpolicy=newest
 distroverpkg=redhat-release
 tolerant=1
 exactarch=1
 [base]
 name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base
 baseurl=ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/#baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/

 [updates-released]
 name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates
 baseurl=ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
 #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/

 [livna-stable]
 name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (stable)
 baseurl= http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/stable
 gpgcheck=1

 [livna-unstable]
 name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (unstable)
 baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/unstable
 gpgcheck=1

 [livna-testing]
 name=Livna.org Fedora Compatible Packages (testing)
 baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/yum/testing
 gpgcheck=1

 [dag]
 name=Fedora Core 1 Dag Wieers' repository
 baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc$releasever/en/i386/dag

 [freshrpms]
 name=Fedora Core $releasever freshrpms
 baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpms

 http://freshrpms.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/freshrpms


 [updates-released]
 name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates
 baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/

 #[updates-testing]
 #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates
 #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/

 #[development]
 #name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree
 #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/

 [xcyb-stable]
 name=Fedora Core 2 ( xcyborg / stable )
 baseurl=http://rpms.xcyb.org/fedora/2/stable/

 [xcyb-bleeding]
 name=Fedora Core 2 ( xcyborg / bleeding )
 baseurl=http://rpms.xcyb.org/fedora/2/bleeding/

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Re: [SLUG] Dude- what happened to my yum!

2004-12-15 Thread mlh

btw, livna and freshrpms/dag/apt are not necessarily compatible -- look out.

http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/FAQ.php#D

I also note that you don't gpgcheck dag repos.  Oh!

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[SLUG] Find weirdo

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Collins
Can someone explain this?



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print %p
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print `%p'
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print `%p' \;
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print `%p' ;
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print '%p' ;
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print '%p' \;
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ 

It is one of those occassional jobs I run and as far as I can understand
it, something must have changed because what I've written down on paper
is no longer working.

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Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo

2004-12-15 Thread Benno
On Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 13:21:03 +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
Can someone explain this?



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print %p
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print `%p'
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print `%p' \;
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print `%p' ;
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print '%p' ;
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print '%p' \;
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ 

It is one of those occassional jobs I run and as far as I can understand
it, something must have changed because what I've written down on paper
is no longer working.

smtpdAB* is exapnding to a directory, so you have a path after an expression.

Try putting it in quotes maybe?
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Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Rundle
Terry Collins wrote:
Can someone explain this?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
-print %p
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
find /spam -name 'smtpdAB*' -print
The shell is expanding the * before calling find. * means all files in the 
current directory so you can figure that find is mighty confused.

HTH
P.
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Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo

2004-12-15 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Terry Collins

 Can someone explain this?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print %p

The problem is your escaping of smtpdAB* - as it is, the expression will be
expanded by the caller and find will actually receive a list of matching
files/dirs in the current directory. You want to put smtpdAB* in quotes, or
escape the wildcard so that the string 'smtpdAB*' is passed to find, rather
than the list of matching files/dirs.

find /spam   -name 'smtpdAB*' -print %p 
or
find /spam   -name smtpdAB\* -print %p
should do the trick.

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Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo

2004-12-15 Thread Michael Fox
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:21:03 +1100, Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone explain this?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB*
 -print %p

Does this mean you have some saved spam? Any chance of organising you
to inject that back to a email address of mine for some spam filter
testing. Could supply address via private email if its possible.

I just installed postfix + spamassassin + clamav + amavis lastnight
and have yet to test it with some spam. It does need work config wise
as I think I want to sort said spam etc into certain user folder, not
to mention I wouldn't mind keeping a copy to reinject later for
testing (much like it appears you have).

I am happy with postfix etc. Wasnt hard to install (as compared to my
qmail install many years ago for the first time).

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[SLUG] Re: Insert text at the beginning of a file

2004-12-15 Thread jam
Ouch

a problem begging for perl as a solution!
James

 On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 03:01 +1100, Dan Treacy wrote:
  I have a text file that I'm trying to update from a shell script but the 
  information needs to be inserted at the beginning of the file.
  
  I have a couple of ways to do this that involves lots of cating and 
  mving and temporary files and the like etc. Not real high on the 
  efficiency scale.
 
 By the time you muck around it is far easier to do something like this:
 
 echo SOMETEXT newfile$$
 echo some more text and $VARIABLE  newfile$$
 cat oldfile  newfile$$
 mv oldfile oldfile.bak
 mv newfile$$ oldfile
 
 If you consider what is happening with the filesystem anyway either you
 do it or the OS does it so the result is the same.
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Re: [SLUG] Swap speed

2004-12-15 Thread Mike MacCana
Lyle Chapman wrote:
Has anyone got any ideas on how to speed up a swap space/drive,
 

Buy more RAM, it's cheap. Failing that, use the fastest part of the disk 
for the swap partition - that's the outer edge, or the first few sectors.

I have a 3ghz, 2gb ram, 2gb swap on ata machine running FC3. I create a 
lot of 3d material and run into swap usage with big scenes. This is ok 
but after a while i end up having to restart the machine or turn the 
swap off then on as it becomes extremely slow to do anything and at 
times X will quit or the 3d app I am using.
 

Use the VM information in top or Gnome System Monitor to find out 
exactly which app is eating all your RAM.

Would it be feasible to use a SCSI drive and split it up into multiple 
2gb swap partitions or has anyone got a better suggestion.
 

Multiple swap partitions won't help if they're on the same physical 
device. It will if they're on different disks.

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] RE: Netcomm np1400

2004-12-15 Thread Alexander Samad
hi

pppoa is ppp over atm
pppoe is ppp over ethernet

the former is usually only atainable when the adsl modem is a pci card.
the later is usuall what you get when the interface between the modem
and the computer is ethernet

Both only apply when the modem is in bridged mode

A

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 01:00:28PM +0930, Alan Millsted wrote:
 What's the difference between pppoa and pppoe I hve been trying to
 set it up as per ahow to from Lnux.Questions.org
 That says no IP on the NIC that the system is using to get to ISP just
 a valid HWADDA.
 
 Your are right about doing your head in!
 
 Alan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2004 11:38 AM
 To: Alan Millsted
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] RE: Netcomm np1400
 
 
 
 if you just have the modem and one pc on the same network 192.168.1.0/24
 and using pppoa or pppoe on the modem 
 then yes, if your doing it with 2 lan cards
 in one box, then something like this
 
 modem 192.168.1.1
 
 gateway eth0 192.168.1.254
 gateway eth1 192.168.0.254
 
 hub
 
 other pcs in your lan 192.168.0.x
 
 these pcs use eth1 as default route
 
 gateway pc uses the modem as the default route
 
 and the firewall will need to be adjusted to suit.
 you should be able to see the modem with a browser from the pc's on your
 lan.
 
 Alan Millsted wrote:
  
  I need a bit of time to get my head round all that, but this isn't the
 
  origial modem from TPG. I havent tried to set that one up on thia 
  Linux box because that is my only link to the real world. Are you 
  saying I should set the gateway on my system as the IP of the modem 
  192.168.1.1 Thanks and any info helps
  
  Alan
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2004 10:33 AM
  To: Alan Millsted
  Subject: Re: [SLUG] RE: Netcomm np1400
  
  Mate, these things can do your head in, tgp like most dsl providers 
  should be using helstras network for the connection??? it will support
 
  most modes of connection, so set the modem up like it was originally 
  sent to you, connect to it with a pc on the same network as the modem 
  using it as the gateway and ns then by driving the modem with a 
  browser, see if you can get the connection happening, if so then the 
  providers part is working fine. you could prolly even get away with 
  using your modem like this with 2 lan cards in the gateway linux box, 
  one on each network and route all the traffic out the lan card 
  connected to the modem, on the gateway box, route all internal 
  traffic, to that lan card on the gateway box.
  
  or then frig with the modem to try and get it to do bridging mode till
 
  it works, the pado timeout errors, or whatever, are usually to do with
 
  authentication problems at the other end, and go away after an hour or
 
  so
  
  i haven't really been following this thread, so this could all be 
  bullshit, if so sorry for wasting your time.
  
  Alan Millsted wrote:
  
   This is the way I feel it should be (not that I realy know anything 
   about it) but logic seems to point that way, so I am thinking that 
   it is
  
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Re: [SLUG] RE: Netcomm np1400

2004-12-15 Thread Alexander Samad
wild guess but do you have a cross over cable between the 2 ?

every time you try and tx you get a carrier error !

A

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:37:03PM +0930, Alan Millsted wrote:
 Ok, I have done that and allthough I haven't fired up the modem yey I
 can't see eth0 192.168.0.254 from anywhere. And this is the 'config -a'
 output
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# service network start
 Setting network parameters:[  OK  ]
 Bringing up loopback interface:[  OK  ]
 Bringing up interface at_home: [  OK  ]
 Bringing up interface the_world:   [  OK  ]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig -a
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0D:61:6A:CA:A9
   inet addr:192.168.1.254  Bcast:192.168.1.255
 Mask:255.255.255.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::20d:61ff:fe6a:caa9/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:352 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:76 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:51971 (50.7 KiB)  TX bytes:5848 (5.7 KiB)
   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xa000
 
 eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:04:75:E7:ED:6C
   inet addr:192.168.0.254  Bcast:192.168.0.255
 Mask:255.255.255.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::204:75ff:fee7:ed6c/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:97
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:6054 (5.9 KiB)
   Interrupt:5 Base address:0x9000
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:16310 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:16310 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:13316576 (12.6 MiB)  TX bytes:13316576 (12.6 MiB)
 
 sit0  Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
   NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
 
 Sa you see eth1 is up but not running???
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2004 11:38 AM
 To: Alan Millsted
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] RE: Netcomm np1400
 
 
 
 if you just have the modem and one pc on the same network 192.168.1.0/24
 and using pppoa or pppoe on the modem 
 then yes, if your doing it with 2 lan cards
 in one box, then something like this
 
 modem 192.168.1.1
 
 gateway eth0 192.168.1.254
 gateway eth1 192.168.0.254
 
 hub
 
 other pcs in your lan 192.168.0.x
 
 these pcs use eth1 as default route
 
 gateway pc uses the modem as the default route
 
 and the firewall will need to be adjusted to suit.
 you should be able to see the modem with a browser from the pc's on your
 lan.
 
 Alan Millsted wrote:
  
  I need a bit of time to get my head round all that, but this isn't the
 
  origial modem from TPG. I havent tried to set that one up on thia 
  Linux box because that is my only link to the real world. Are you 
  saying I should set the gateway on my system as the IP of the modem 
  192.168.1.1 Thanks and any info helps
  
  Alan
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2004 10:33 AM
  To: Alan Millsted
  Subject: Re: [SLUG] RE: Netcomm np1400
  
  Mate, these things can do your head in, tgp like most dsl providers 
  should be using helstras network for the connection??? it will support
 
  most modes of connection, so set the modem up like it was originally 
  sent to you, connect to it with a pc on the same network as the modem 
  using it as the gateway and ns then by driving the modem with a 
  browser, see if you can get the connection happening, if so then the 
  providers part is working fine. you could prolly even get away with 
  using your modem like this with 2 lan cards in the gateway linux box, 
  one on each network and route all the traffic out the lan card 
  connected to the modem, on the gateway box, route all internal 
  traffic, to that lan card on the gateway box.
  
  or then frig with the modem to try and get it to do bridging mode till
 
  it works, the pado timeout errors, or whatever, are usually to do with
 
  authentication problems at the other end, and go away after an hour or
 
  so
  
  i haven't really been following this thread, so this could all be 
  bullshit, if so sorry for wasting your time.
  
  Alan Millsted wrote:
  
   This is the way I feel it should be (not that I realy know anything 
   

Re: [SLUG] Swap speed

2004-12-15 Thread Ben de Luca
I would suggest that you have more than enough ram on your machine to 
be doing what you need to be doing.  Some other people have mentioned 
to check that hi mem support is enabled which is important to check 
too.

What 3d app are you running?  I haven't seen any scene in my years of 
working that couldn't be worked in 2Gigs of ram. Ram might seem cheap 
for one workstation but when you have 300-1000 rendernodes that all 
need to have 4 gigs of ram to handle some ones scene you suddenly start 
to wear costs.



On 14/12/2004, at 2:09 PM, Lyle Chapman wrote:
Has anyone got any ideas on how to speed up a swap space/drive,
I have a 3ghz, 2gb ram, 2gb swap on ata machine running FC3. I create a
lot of 3d material and run into swap usage with big scenes. This is ok
but after a while i end up having to restart the machine or turn the
swap off then on as it becomes extremely slow to do anything and at
times X will quit or the 3d app I am using.
Would it be feasible to use a SCSI drive and split it up into multiple
2gb swap partitions or has anyone got a better suggestion.
Thanks,
Lyle Chapman
Pre-Press Supervisor
Torch Publishing Co.
47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia
612 9795 
http://www.torchpublishing.com.au
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Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo

2004-12-15 Thread scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/12/2004 01:21:03 PM:

 Can someone explain this?
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print %p
 find: paths must precede expression
 Usage: find [path...] [expression]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print `%p'
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print `%p' \;
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print `%p' ;
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print '%p' ;
 find: paths must precede expression
 Usage: find [path...] [expression]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$  find /spam   -name smtpdAB* 
 -print '%p' \;
 find: paths must precede expression
 Usage: find [path...] [expression]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ 
 

try -printf %p
-print has no options
I would also suggest escaping the '*' so bash doesn't try to expand it.

Regards,

Scott
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