[SLUG] Creative Soundblaster USB and Linux

2005-03-21 Thread Peter Chubb

Hi,
I recently bought a Creative Soundblaster USB sound adapter,
for recording on my laptop (the inbuilt sound card doesn't bring the
line inputs out to a connector, so it's useless for recording).

Alsa recognises the device, but alsamixer shows several channels that
only half make sense to me.

There are two pairs of RCA connectors labelled line in and line out;
and a headphone jack with a volume control.  Plugging anythinginto the
headphone jack seems to mute the line output.

Muting either `speaker' control from alsamixer also appears to mute
the line output.  Also it's as if the speaker volume controls are in
series for line-in.  But for PCM output, speaker 1 affects output
levels, but not speaker 0.

When a signal is going into `line in' it appears always to be echoed
to `line out' regardless of any settings other than the speaker
levels.


Can anyone (perhaps who has used this device under Windows) explain
the controls to me?

Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 128
  Front Left: Capture 24 [19%] [off]
  Front Right: Capture 24 [19%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'PCM Capture Source',0
  Capabilities:
  Mono:
Simple mixer control 'PCM',1
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Mono
  Mono: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined cvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
cswitch cswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Capture 0 - 128
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture 0 [0%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Auto Gain Control',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Front Left: Playback 196 [77%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 196 [77%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Speaker',1
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Front Left: Playback 190 [75%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 190 [75%] [on]
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[SLUG] Wollongong installfest

2005-03-21 Thread Ashley Maher
A quick report,
An installfest was held at the University of Wollongong during four 
sessions over saturday-sunday of last week-end. The purpose was to setup 
student computers to replicate teh University lab computers as closely 
as possible.

Several local volunteers, with Robert, Billy, and Jeff from SLUG helped 
ensure a successful linux install onto 40 student computers. Matt Palmer 
created custom install cds so the sessions ran smoothly.

The positive results of this installfest means the student society and 
the IT School are looking at holding a meeting to discuss another 
installfest.

A side benefit is the South Coast Linux User Group mailing list has 
doubled in size :-) And local linux users have gained experience in 
assisting at installfests.

A big thanks to SLUG for your on going support.
Regards,
Ashley
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Re: [SLUG] Wollongong installfest

2005-03-21 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 23:18 +1100, Ashley Maher wrote:

 The positive results of this installfest means the student society and 
 the IT School are looking at holding a meeting to discuss another 
 installfest.
 
 A side benefit is the South Coast Linux User Group mailing list has 
 doubled in size :-) And local linux users have gained experience in 
 assisting at installfests.

Great work Ashley  Co :)

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[SLUG] reg exp q on eml

2005-03-21 Thread Voytek Eymont
I have something like this in my header checks:

/^Content-(Disposition|Type):\s+.+?(?:file)?name=?.+?\.(386|ad[ept]|app|as[dpx]|ba[st]|bin|btm|cab|cbt|cgi|chm|cil|cla(ss)?|cmd|cp[el]|crt|cs[chs]|cvp|dll|dot|drv|em(ai)?l|ex[_e]|fon|fxp|hlp|ht[ar]|in[fips]|isp|jar|jse?|keyreg|ksh|lib|lnk|md[abetw]|mht(m|ml)?|mp3|ms[ciopt]|nte|nws|obj|ocx|ops|ov.|pcd|pgm|pif|p[lm]|pot|prg|reg|sc[rt]|sh[bs]?|slb|smm|sys|url|vb[esx]?|vir|vmx|vxd|wm[dsz]|ws[cfh]|xms|\{[\da-f]{8}(?:-[\da-f]{4}){3}-[\da-f]{12}\})\b/
   REJECT hc1 .$2 file attachment types not allowed

I need to allow '.eml' files, is this the expresion that is stopping them:

em(ai)?l

does it mean 'eml and/or ail' ?
what's an 'ail', is there such attachement ?
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Re: [SLUG] reg exp q on eml

2005-03-21 Thread Angus Lees
At Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:32:07 +1100 (EST), Voytek Eymont wrote:
 em(ai)?l
 does it mean 'eml and/or ail' ?

no, that means email or eml (ie, with or without the ai)

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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-21 Thread mlh

See if you can find the manufacturer and do a google on that.

I had the misfortune to get a genentech usb-ide bridge that
didn't work with some older linux kernels, but had blacklist
workarounds in later ones.  Also it didn't work in win xp until
sp2.

Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Creative Soundblaster USB and Linux

2005-03-21 Thread Richard Neal




Yeah I remember looking this thing up on google, and the USB Sound Blaster thing is listed as having poor support and being flaky at best in Linux. Even if you do get it to work, the levels are horrible and the sound quality is the same.

I talked to a guy who tried everything to get his USB Sound Blaster box going even recompiled the kernel wrote a custom modprobe script hacked hotplug and it was still horrible (but it worked).

On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 21:01, Peter Chubb wrote:

Hi,
	I recently bought a Creative Soundblaster USB sound adapter,
for recording on my laptop (the inbuilt sound card doesn't bring the
line inputs out to a connector, so it's useless for recording).






Regards
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Re: [SLUG] Creative Soundblaster USB and Linux

2005-03-21 Thread Peter Chubb
 Richard == Richard Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Richard Yeah I remember looking this thing up on google, and the USB
Richard Sound Blaster thing is listed as having poor support and
Richard being flaky at best in Linux. Even if you do get it to work,
Richard the levels are horrible and the sound quality is the same.

Well it works an awful lot better than the internal card.  I can
actually record CD-quality sound, and it seems OK, providing I select
PCM1 as the input and adjust the levels appropriately.  It seems to want
much higher levels, rather than the standard 600mV into 600ohms I'm
used to, but it does work, has a reasonable noise floor, and the A--D
converter seems reasonably linear --- good enough for my purposes.

Unfortunately it doesn't have an external power supply, and filtering
on the USB power supply is not quite adequate.  It's OK when I'm on
battery, but noisy if the laptop is plugged into the mains.  And the
documentation is not on the hardware, but on the windows+hardware
combination, and it's useless to me.

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[SLUG] this is strating to look like hardware

2005-03-21 Thread Ashley Maher
More external usb adventures.
As was noted yesterday there was the possability of a kernel problem 
with the usb.

So upgrading to hoary failed.
Blow away old install, fresh hoary install.
Then:
Tail /var/log/messages:
Mar 22 10:25:06 solo usb.agent[28305]:  usb-storage: loaded successfully
Mar 22 10:35:42 solo -- MARK --
dmesg | grep usb
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
usb-storage: device found at 2
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110
usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110
usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -19
usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -19
usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2
usb-storage: device scan complete
dmesg | grep scsi
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 
lun 0
So 2.6.10 is closer. But looking at the above I suggest I'm looking for 
a hardware work around if possible.

I'm going to do some more googling.
Suggestions greatfully appreciated.?
Regards,
Ashley
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Re: [SLUG] this is strating to look like hardware

2005-03-21 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:47:11AM +1100, Ashley Maher wrote:
 More external usb adventures.
 
 As was noted yesterday there was the possability of a kernel problem 
 with the usb.
 
 So upgrading to hoary failed.
 
 Blow away old install, fresh hoary install.
 
 
 Suggestions greatfully appreciated.?

You want to use the 'old, slow' USB storage access driver which will pop
up thing as 'uba'.  Check for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB in the kernel.

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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-21 Thread Simon Wong
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 17:21 +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
 If so its possible the laptop usb ports can't power it. You might need
 to also plug in the other cable that draws current from ps2 port.

I discovered this recently when my external USB case which works fine on
my Thinkpad couldn't get going on my sister's iBook.

Was quite a surprise and very annoying...

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Re: [SLUG] this is strating to look like hardware

2005-03-21 Thread Darren Williams
Hi Ashley

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Ashley Maher wrote:

 More external usb adventures.
 
 As was noted yesterday there was the possability of a kernel problem 
 with the usb.
 
 So upgrading to hoary failed.
 
 Blow away old install, fresh hoary install.
 
 Then:
 
 Tail /var/log/messages:
 Mar 22 10:25:06 solo usb.agent[28305]:  usb-storage: loaded successfully
 Mar 22 10:35:42 solo -- MARK --
 
 dmesg | grep usb
 usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
 usbcore: registered new driver hub
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
 usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
 usb-storage: device found at 2
 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
 usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
 usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
 usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110
 usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
 usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110
 usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
 usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -19
 usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -19
 usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2
 usb-storage: device scan complete
 
 dmesg | grep scsi
 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
 usb 1-2: scsi_eh_0 timed out on ep0in
 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 
 0 lun 0
 
 So 2.6.10 is closer. But looking at the above I suggest I'm looking for 
 a hardware work around if possible.
 
 I'm going to do some more googling.
 
 Suggestions greatfully appreciated.?
 
 Regards,
 
 Ashley
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Looking at linux1394.org I see something similar, however most
problems there at the moment are with encolosures connected with
firewire. Considering that you inclosure will use the sbp2 driver it
may pay to look at
http://linux1394.org/faq.php#sbp2abort

and also the linux1394 mail archives
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=5389
 
Darren

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[SLUG] Firefox/Linux Article

2005-03-21 Thread Peter Rundle
G'day Sluggers,
There's an interesting article in the Hearld on Firefox adoption and also Linux 
adoption at the RTA if anyone's interested.

 http://www.smh.com.au/news/Next/Firefox-explorers/2005/03/21/253920087.html
Nice to hear a postive news story.
P.
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Re: [SLUG] this is strating to look like hardware

2005-03-21 Thread Terry Collins
Ashley Maher wrote:
 
 More external usb adventures.

err, are you trying to access something in an external USB hub?
If so, does it worked plugged into the mobo sockets?
Someone else has reported a problem with using usb devices in external
hubs.

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[SLUG] installing linux

2005-03-21 Thread ang ang
Although i am new to Linux thus far i quite enjoy the
program however i have had some difficulty installing
the full version on my clevo Pentium 4 laptop.
Currently i am using a 30 day trial xandros desktop OS
2 business edition. Which works fine as does live
versions and my Microsoft windows XP which i don't
want to use! I have tried to install suzie, lycoris
and other operating systems but without success. I
belive to have  configured my bio correctly but still
no luck. Mostly im informed the CD is corrupted. But
it works fine on other computers. Can you refer anyone
who can assist me. Thank you
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Re: [SLUG] this is strating to look like hardware

2005-03-21 Thread mlh
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:47:11AM +1100, Ashley Maher wrote:
 More external usb adventures.

Try lsusb -v, and look for the idVendor, idProduct strings
for your device and google for them.

I found my usb disk firmware on a blacklist/workaround.

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Re: [SLUG] installing linux

2005-03-21 Thread Peter Chubb
 ang == ang ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ang Although i am new to Linux thus far i quite enjoy the program
ang however i have had some difficulty installing the full version on
ang my clevo Pentium 4 laptop.  Currently i am using a 30 day trial

I installed Debian on my Clevo 5600P.  I had no problems.  It was two
years ago now, but was pretty straightforward as I recall.

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Re: [SLUG] installing linux

2005-03-21 Thread Simon Wong
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 19:19 -0800, ang ang wrote:
 Although i am new to Linux thus far i quite enjoy the
 program however i have had some difficulty installing
 the full version on my clevo Pentium 4 laptop.

Have you tried searching Google for your laptop?

In particular check out www.linux-laptop.net and this page looks useful:

http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/clevo.html

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Re: [SLUG] Repartitioning Dell Dimension 8300

2005-03-21 Thread Grant Parnell
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Edwin Humphries wrote:

 G'day all,
 
 I've just inherited a Dell Dimension 8300. It has a single 120Gb SATA
 drive, and I'd like to repartition with a view to dual-booting. It's 
 got
 an OEM partition on the first 31 Mb of the drive.
 
 When I try to boot with the System Rescue CD (to use NTFSresize), I 
 get an error message hda: host proected area = 1 and the boot 
 hangs. I'm assuming that this refers to the OEM partition - is this 
 right? How do I get the bootloader to ignore this partition?
 

I'm not sure what the system rescue CD is but if it's trying to re-create 
the typical Dell setup/diagnostic partition and finding it's already there 
and not going any further then this is probably a good thing.

What you most likely want to do is proceed merrily with your favourite 
Linux install but be careful to select manual partitioning options. Avoid 
changing the first partition, it's a DOS-FAT-12 partition in disguise so 
you can add it to your Linux boot loader menu (lilo, grub or other). At 
minimum you'll want to add say 100MB /boot, 1GB swap and the rest can be / 
(the root filesystem). Feel free to overwrite the MBR (Master Boot Record) 
with your boot loader - that shouldn't affect the partition itself.

It's worth noting that should the hard drive fail Dell has (or at least 
did last time I looked) floppy disk images for re-creating the 
Setup/Diagnostic partition. You can probably perform the setup/diags from 
the floppies too (useful for older machines which didn't have auto HDD 
detection).  Hmm actually I'm confusing this with some Compaq gear but 
I think Dell is similar.

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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-21 Thread Grant Parnell
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Edwin Humphries wrote:

 We've been using Dovecot (on FC2) for a while as our IMAP server. But 
 now we need to evolve to sharing some folders.
 
 We need to share some folders with one set of users, others with 
 another set of users (overlapping wit the first set), and keep some 
 folders as private.
 
 How do we do this?

For it to work reliably and scalably I'd recommend setting up Cyrus-imapd. 
It's a bit of a learning curve and you have to do some migration but it 
really does offer sharing of a mailbox simultaneously among 2 or more 
users. Took a bit of fiddling but I have a half migrated setup. That is I 
have sendmail delivering to plain old mbox in /var/spool/mail (using local 
pine clients) and on the same server delivering to some cyrus mailboxes. I 
did this by creating an /etc/mail/mailertable entry for 
cyrus.in.emusys.com.au and using /etc/aliases to redirect some mail to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My intention is to use imap folders to store emails related to orders for 
EverythingLinux so that for a given order we can view all correspodence 
that's via fax or email - we can chose to use an email client to view just 
the email portion and I found squirrelmail suited to my task of browsing 
folders.

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Re: [SLUG] Nomination acceptance

2005-03-21 Thread Chris Deigan
quote(Grant Parnell);
It occurred to me that I should actually formally accept the nomination 
for the SLUG Secretary in the upcomming election. I do accept.

Just got told/reminded, I accept for the normal position.

yay!

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Re: [SLUG] Handling Berkeley databases

2005-03-21 Thread Grant Parnell
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 What sort of utilities are there for handling Berkeley databases other
 than the db_* range.
 
 db_dump -p gives me printable output but I still get the \0d\0a coming
 out as such rather than as a new line, and I can't seem to get a pipe
 into sed to fix it.

Well there's interfaces to various programming languages - such as 
perl-DBI (we use for MySQL but works for BDB + others). 

I wonder if you've tried something like
db_dump -p dbname | tr -d \r
db_dump -p dbname | dos2unix
I guess it depends on exactly how often you get CRLF, every line, 
mid-row, some lines etc.

Another thought is you might find you can convert to something like a TAB 
delimited file which may or may not help. It certainly won't if your line 
breaks are mid-row.

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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-21 Thread Grant Parnell
Sounds like this could be a power issue. If the external device has a 
plug-pack option, try this with the laptop. Alternately, if you have 
another low power device (such as a USB key) try that, it should be the 
same procedure exactly. Alternately your kernel might be having trouble 
with the USB host adapter in general or you have mismatched USB 1.0 / 2.0 
etc. My bet is still power though :-(

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Ashley Maher wrote:

 Michael Fox wrote:
 
 As pointed out, looks like dead disk. Try on another machine. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Tried Slackware 10 running 2.4 kernel, on a desktop.
 
 Found the device
 
 fdisk particioned it fine
 
 formatted ext3 fine.
 
 Plug back into Ubuntu on the laptop and:
 
 tail /var/log/messages:
 
 Mar 21 15:15:16 solo kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 
 7
 Mar 21 15:15:17 solo kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage 
 devices
 Mar 21 15:15:17 solo kernel:   Vendor: Genesys   Model: USB to IDE Disk   
 Rev: 0033
 Mar 21 15:15:17 solo kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
 ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 Mar 21 15:15:27 solo hal.hotplug[4523]: timout(1 ms) waiting for 
 /devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0 
 Mar 21 15:15:27 solo hal.hotplug[4529]: timout(1 ms) waiting for 
 /devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0 
 Mar 21 15:15:28 solo usb.agent[4546]:  usb-storage: already loaded
 Mar 21 15:15:37 solo scsi.agent[4550]: Attribute 
 /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0/type does 
 not exist
 Mar 21 15:20:30 solo kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #0 link 
 partner capability of 01e1.
 Mar 21 15:38:55 solo -- MARK --
 Mar 21 15:58:55 solo -- MARK --
 Mar 21 16:18:55 solo -- MARK --
 Mar 21 16:38:55 solo -- MARK --
 
 dmesg | grep usb
 
 usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
 usbcore: registered new driver hub
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -110
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 3
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: device not accepting address 3, error -110
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 4
 usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
 usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using address 4
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: device not accepting address 4, error -110
 usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 4
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: device not accepting address 5, error -110
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 6
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
 usb 1-2: device not accepting address 6, error -110
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 7
 
 
 dmesg | grep scsi
 
 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 
 lun 0
 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
 Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
 scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 
 Hmm this is getting interesting!
 
 The laptop is realley what I want this for. Working on the desktop is 
 loely (it proves it works) but not what i was looking for.
 
 Ideas appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ashley
 

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