Re: [SLUG] GCC question
Hi,
There is an excellent Borland-like IDE for beginners, and if
you hunt around www.freshmeat.net you'll probably find it.
I had tested several IDEs on linux for programming C/C++.
It seems to me that a minimum requrement for an IDE wiil be the following
three fearures :
1) support for gcc compilation
2) a reasonable debugger (watches, berakpoints)
3) code completion
A good candidate I encountered is kdevelop; http://www.kdevelop.org.
(free,open source).
The problem with it is that sometime the code completion does not work. And
if you are
aiming at medium/big projects it is really annoying. Really annoying!
The same Kdevelop ide supports aslo other programming languauges like Java
but I didn't tested it.
There is borland C/C++ for linux (it's called cbuilderX ; it is non free);
However, it did not had code completion when I tested it
about 2-3 months ago (maybe now they have). They do have a debugger with
watches,breakpoints,and it looks like the usual boreland IDE.
What I am trying in the last months , and it seems that I will probably
adopt, is the eclipse IDE.
This is a free , open source IDE , supported by IBM.
see: http://www.eclipse.org
When you download Eclipse you get an IDE for java;
In order that Eclipse will support C/C++ you should also download and
install
C/C++ Development Tools from http://www.eclipse.org/cdt.
I had done so and up till now it is OK.
Take in mind that the eclipse ide is quite heavy because it is written in
Java.
However, if you intend to work in the future in Java , knowing this IDE can
be a little advantage
if you will choose it for java development.
The eclipse IDE also runs on windows (There are sometimes,
unforunately,cases when people need it...)
Regards.
Amir
From: Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Bowskill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: slug@slug.org.au, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] GCC question
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:28:01 +0930
David Bowskill wrote:
Your email has been very helpful to me - thanks again. When I initially
copied the program from Herbert Schildes book
Well that explains why you're incrementing characters in strings.
I was wondering (it's not really a good idea because of
internationalisation).
Herbert Schildt's books aren't fantastic -- he has written a lot,
he explains things poorly and they don't get updated that often.
And the enforcement of strings literals being constant is only
recently come into vogue. For a long time it wasn't seen as a
good idea, but in this age of buffer overflows you want everything
that can be a constant to be a unalterable.
The library function strdup() is not mentioned in KR but strcpy() is - I
assume that these are very similar.
It's in UNIX98, not ANSI/ISO C. Sorry about that. Off the top of my head
char *strdup(const char *str)
{
char *new;
new = (char *)malloc(strlen(str) + 1);
if (new) {
strcpy(new, str);
}
return new;
}
[Once you've learnt C have a look at PJ Plauger's book on implementing
the standard C library. There's no better way to learn to use a
library than to be walked through an implementation by a wonderful
author.]
There is another question which no doubt you can help on - I have read
that the library function 'gets' (defined in KR) is regarded as
dangerous in Linux - is this true?
It's unsafe in any operating system. Take this example to read
a string of up to 10 characters:
char s[10+1];
success = gets(s);
if (!success) { ...
now what's going to happen when the user feeds it 20 characters?
It's going to try to write outside the bounds of the allocated
string.
You want to say this:
#define S_SIZE (10 + 1)
char s[S_SIZE];
success = fgets(s, S_SIZE, stdin);
if (!success) {
perror(Failed reading hotel name);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
Note how I handled the error. Every I/O is checked for errors,
and the error message is in the user's terminology.
Also, do you know of an IDE for GCC ( in a similar manner to that
provided by Borland C++) ? This would be very useful.
There are endless numbers of them, since most UNIX editors have
good programming support. For example, in Emacs you create a
Makefile containing the line
t: t.c
and type
M-x compile
(and the second thing you'll do in emacs is assign that command
to a function key).
There is an excellent Borland-like IDE for beginners, and if
you hunt around www.freshmeat.net you'll probably find it.
Brett Nash wrote:
As an aside, if you don't have a good reference on C, I would suggest
hunting down a copy of Brian Kernighan Dennis Richies The C
Programming Language, a little expensive (~$70) for it's size
(250pages), but you won't find a better reference ANYWHERE for C, with
the possible exception of the ANSI standard, and KR is much more
readable. The reference manual section will allow you work out such
issues very quickly (A2.6 covers string literals, and your specific
problem quite concisely - I can post you the section if you wish).
Don't bother
Re: [SLUG] Buying a Printer
G'day, Last week I spent a bit of time dealing with an IBM Infoprint 1412, which is just a rebranded Lexmark. It comes with some software for setting it up under Linux (written in Java, as a matter of fact), and does a fairly decent job with integrating with CUPS. I wouldn't recommend them though. HP have some much better laser printers at decent prices, with superior print quality and print speed. Cheers, Lindsay On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 18:53 +1000, Richard Neal wrote: I was just wondering if anyone has recently bought a printer to run on Linux. Im after a laser printer (nothing fancy) to works with the CUPS print server. Yes I know there are websites that list printers that work with Linux but some Ive found don't work that well or not at all, and some work great. So whats a good new laser printer thats just does black and white prints. Also while Im here whats a good three in one printer that people have had experience buying and using with Linux lately. -- http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] InstallFest: Ubuntu Down Under Love Day
When: Monday, April 25, 10:30am - 4:30pm Where: Vibe Hotel, Rushcutters Bay Slug will be holding an InstallFest in conjuction with Ubuntu Down Under's Love Day. It will be held at the Vibe Hotel, 100 Bayswater Road, Rushcutters Bay at the hours mentioned above. If you're interested in trying out Linux and want to meet the cool people who make Ubuntu happen, this will be a most excellent event that will make the two possible! We also need volunteers to install Linux on other people's machines to come along. If you're coming as a volunteer installer, please let the Activities list know. Onlookers are also welcome, but we can't promise that you won't be roped in to helping out with installs. :-) If you're coming to have Linux installed, please: - bring along your computer and if possible your monitor; and - de-fragment your hard drive if you want to dual boot Linux with another operating system. If you're coming along as a volunteer, you only need to bring yourself. However, if you've got any cool toys on your Linux machine to show off, feel free to bring it along. Cheers, Lindsay -- http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Report to Recipient(s)
Incident Information:- Originator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipients: slug@slug.org.au Subject:slug Digest, Vol 25, Issue 59 The file / html you received was infected with the Exploit-MIME.gen.b virus and was deleted. The file src.bat you received was infected with the W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus and was deleted. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Failed Boot
I tried this as well, having boot troubles. Can't interact with I or control C. I described the trouble earlier. No luck yet, any more tip maybe... Thanks a lot. Alternativly, does anyone know some shop who does little linux repairs like this one? I have not even any luck there, every shop I call seems to do only Win stuff. But there is another Software giant coming up, now that Adobe bought Macromedia out... Cheers, Dimitri Hi all, I have a RH system V9 which is hanging during boot at 'Mounting SMB Filesystems' we have left it for over 48 hours and it still does not progress. However it still responds to CTRL_ALT_DEL to re-boot, so is their another command I can hit on the keyboard to tell it to skip this part of the boot and keep going? I don't seem to be able to get the I for Interactive setup happening either - it just boots normally. Mike MacCana wrote: Michael Fox wrote: On 4/18/05, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a RH system V9 which is hanging during boot at 'Mounting SMB Filesystems' we have left it for over 48 hours and it still does not progress. However it still responds to CTRL_ALT_DEL to re-boot, so is their another command I can hit on the keyboard to tell it to skip this part of the boot and keep going? I don't seem to be able to get the I for Interactive setup happening either - it just boots normally. CONTROL-C? That won't work. Boot normally. You don't need rescue mode. When it says 'Welcome to Red Hat Linux, press I for interactive startup', press I (a few times). Then you'll be prompted for each service that starts. Say yes to every service except 'netfs' - that's the one with the problem. Then continue normally. To disable netfs starting in future, run 'chkconfig netfs off'. But better yet, you should simply fix netfs. You can do this by looking at /etc/fstab, where a Windows share is being mounted by your Linux machine. Maybe the Windows machien isn't connected anymore or has changed in some way. Fix the fix as appropriate. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Sun hardware query
Hi, Can someone confirm that if I had say a Sun ultra1 and connected a null modem cable to it and then hooked this to another machine and using a terminal package, I could install an operating system onto the Sun ultra1. I believe at the booting and no presence of video device it will allow console usage via serial. Just want to confirm, as I am thinking of getting an old Sun ultra1 or something to tinker with. Been ages since I even touched one, but if i could get a quad ethernet card for it, it might proove to be very usefull. I'd use it for my dhcp, dns server etc. Plus run some ipsec tunnels on it etc. It should do this job fine I suspect. Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sun hardware query
On 4/21/05, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may well be a 25 pin D connector, it does carry a serial console, but its not a standard connector. Last time I had to do this I had to find some docs on the web, fiddle with one of those little jumper boxes and then make a custom cable. guess I might need some help if I get one. Will wait and see if the deal goes through or not. Certainly would be an interesting machine to install various stuff on. Yes, once you get the cable right. sweet. If I get said machine and have problem, then I will have to ask for help if needed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sun hardware query
Last time I had to do this I had to find some docs on the web, fiddle with one of those little jumper boxes and then make a custom cable. guess I might need some help if I get one. Will wait and see if the deal goes through or not. Certainly would be an interesting machine to install various stuff on. I thought the ttya serial port wasa wired standard and you only needed a special cable to get to ttyb (on the same 25-pin connector)... then again I ain't used one for a long time.. it'll try and boot the serial port if there is no keyboard plugged in I believe Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie Linux kernel - DRI, VAX / pam_smb / ILUG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GCC question
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:36:48AM +0300, Amir Binyamini wrote: telford noted that info gcc shows that this option is deprecated. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2005/04/msg00404.html It could be that in newer versions (gcc 3.4,gcc4) this flag is built-in, Quite the opposite, the option is marked as deprecated because the authors of gcc don't much like the way you write programs and want you to modify your code so that it will not need writable strings. Then again, they will never be able to remove the option because they want gcc to remain compatible with other compilers so what they are saying is, sure we will support your program but you are a naughty boy to write such code. I don't know; but in man gcc in gcc 3.3.3 they also say that this is a bad idea ;I must find time to check what implications such a flag have and if it can cause any troubles and in which scenarios. I'm pretty sure it never actually causes trouble, it's more of a good programming argument about whether strings should be regarded as constant or not. You can spend a lot of time arguing about what is good programming style and people do. I've been thinking about writing a book on as much but I'm wondering if anyone would buy it :-) - Tel ( http://bespoke.homelinux.net/ ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sun hardware query
On Thursday 21 April 2005 07:55, Michael Fox wrote: Hi, Can someone confirm that if I had say a Sun ultra1 and connected a null modem cable to it and then hooked this to another machine and using a terminal package, I could install an operating system onto the Sun ultra1. I believe at the booting and no presence of video device it will allow console usage via serial. Yes. done that from T1, E3500, E220R and Fire 280R. The Sun T1s here have RJ-45 for serial A and B. The E3500, E220 and Fire 280R have a serial 25-pin. You'll need some special connector to hook it into your PC is that's what you want. Or get a terminal console ( we have a Nortel Annex here, which also have RJ-45 connectors ) and attach all your sun equipment there. If you want, you can also attach your headless x86 hosts to it ... although you wont get BIOS messages not like the SPARC hardware where you'll see all console messages, including openboot messages. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [activities] InstallFest: Ubuntu Down Under Love Day
Me too. I intended to go until I read Craige's email and it reminded me. I am locked into an Anzac day event. The following weekend sounds good to me for all the reasons Craige mentioned. John. Craige McWhirter wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 18:38 +1000, Lindsay Holmwood wrote: Monday, April 25, 10:30am - 4:30pm This is ANZAC day. I won't be there as I think the timing is in-appropriate. I also don't think four days is enough to plan an effective install fest or enough notice to give to volunteers. Why not go for the following weekend? More notice, more planning, more publicity. Certainly not enough but more :) -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GCC question
How about a wikibook on the topic. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is good programming style and people do. I've been thinking about writing a book on as much -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
Have a look at egroupware.org Edwin Humphries wrote: A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. begin:vcard fn:Howard Lowndes n:Lowndes;Howard org:LANNet Computing Associates adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name tel;work:02 6040 0222 tel;fax:02 6040 0222 tel;cell:0419 464 430 note:If you want to phone me, you will need to ensure that your phone presents Caller ID. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.lannet.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Buying a Printer
Richard Neal wrote: So whats a good new laser printer thats just does black and white prints. I can report interoperability success with the Samsung ML-1210 personal laser printer. It has a USB interface. Distro was Fedora Core 3. HAL, cups-config-daemon, system-config-printer, and foomatic all cooperated so that it just worked and created a new print queue when I plugged it in. The printer itself seems excellent for a low-priced laser. -- Glen Turner Tel: (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Australia's Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
Have you check Horde/Kronolith from: http://www.horde.org ? It runs on an HTTPD server and clients are issued accounts on that server to use the calendar. It's got other functionalities like mail, address book, News, time tracking, etc. It's a groupware application software. It's written in php with a selection of backend DataBase like, MySQL, Postgress, and LDAP to name a few. Edwin Humphries wrote: A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:42:56PM +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote: A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. If they are happy to go over to webmail style interface then maybe TWIG could do the job. It's easy to set up and works with most web browsers. Have a look at http://www.informationgateway.org/ - Tel ( http://bespoke.homelinux.net/ ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
For the sake of discussion: I was going to suggest Novell's OpenExchange product (http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/). But the pricing I've seen for that is US$1319 for a 10 client license. Edwin Humphries wrote: A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
Anyone tried Novell's SUSE LINUX Openexchange Server ? http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/screenshots.html On Thursday 21 April 2005 13:42, Edwin Humphries wrote: A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
I was just looking into this a bit more, and discovered that this is based on an OSS project called Open X-Change (http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/product/) The community version can be seen here (http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/) Could be a less costly alternative, although I haven't quite confirmed whether it's GPL'd FOSS. Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote: Anyone tried Novell's SUSE LINUX Openexchange Server ? http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/screenshots.html On Thursday 21 April 2005 13:42, Edwin Humphries wrote: A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
