Re: [SLUG] DebSIG
quote(Chris Deigan); (Yeah, DebSIG is still on...) ...or not. -Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DebSIG
On Wed May 18, 2005 at 16:17:52 +1000, Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Chris Deigan); (Yeah, DebSIG is still on...) ...or not. So is it or isn't it? Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DebSIG
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 16:19 +1000, Benno wrote: On Wed May 18, 2005 at 16:17:52 +1000, Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Chris Deigan); (Yeah, DebSIG is still on...) ...or not. So is it or isn't it? I'm going to head in and do something adhoc. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] script dying after ssh..?
* On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 03:33:11PM +1000, James Polley wrote: The scp works fine; copies all the stuff thru to all machines (I'm using an ssh key for root). But when I uncomment the ssh line, only the first machine is done, suggesting that ssh is dying somehow. Any ideas on what I could try? Try ssh -vvv ... to get more information from SSH about what's happening try running the script with sh -x to see if this gives any useful info Great, thanks for that. -- Sonia Hamilton. GPG key A8B77238. . Linux; a re-GNU-able resource. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 38
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 16:30 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: email message attachment On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 16:30 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 16:19 +1000, Benno wrote: On Wed May 18, 2005 at 16:17:52 +1000, Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Chris Deigan); (Yeah, DebSIG is still on...) ...or not. So is it or isn't it? I'm going to head in and do something adhoc. Rob If I'd have known that I would have made the trip. Too late now. Regards, Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Source IP with multihomed box
Hi all, I have a question regarding a multihomed box. Does anyone know how the kernel decides what source IP address to use on a multihomed box? For example, I have a box with: eth0 inet addr:192.168.1.244 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth1 inet addr:192.168.99.241 Bcast:192.168.99.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth1:1 inet addr:192.168.98.240 Bcast:192.168.98.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 and a default route set to 192.168.99.244 will send a packet out its default gateway with a source address of 192.168.98.240. Seems a little strange to me. I can see why eth0's IP address might not be used, but why not eth1 instead of eth1:1's address? If I swap eth1 and eth1:1 around, then the source address moves with it (ie becomes 192.168.99.241) I'm doing stuff using ip routing rules and I need to know when and under what conditions a specific IP address is used. Thanks in advance, Andy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] pptp IP address assignment
Michael Fox wrote: So openvpn is the way to go? I want to setup something similar to Ryan, or atleast configure my linux machine thats currently serving files out to my lan to also do some vpn server end point stuff (for wireless and wan connected people). I am still researching on what way to attempt on Debian Sarge install. it sure is the way to go. openvpn in bridged mode work great for wireless stuff. for endpoint/roadwarrior stuff put it in routed mode and go from there. its damn nice. I even got it to work through an ssl proxy today, so now I can administer linux boxes that where previously stuck behind said proxy. for debian: apt-get install openvpn answer - yes I want a tap device made for me. grab sample config file from openvpn.net. follow simple howto. too easy. get stuck, ask questions. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Clipboards under X
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 02:21:38PM +1000, David Gillies wrote: I'm currently using Ubuntu Hoary (top distro btw), but I have one minor annoyance. Up until I moved to Ubuntu, I'd been using Redhat/Fedora. The clipboard, regardless of whether I selected the text or ctrl+c the text, it ended up in the same clipboard. I have exactly the same problem in Fedora Core 3 and I do seem to remember that it was not like this a few versions back. I'm pretty sure that fc1 was better. It isn't specifically an Ubuntu problem. It bites me when I run java in a web browser to access St George internet banking (which will work from Firefox with the Sun jre provided you also install the User Agent Switcher and set yourself to Opera -- weird huh). The bank statement won't allow you to select it at all but it does have a button marked copy which will copy it to the clipboard. But you can't paste that into emacs because emacs only accepts traditional X11 (i.e. the text MUST be selected). On the other hand, pasting the bank statement into gedit works fine (and that's about all I ever use gedit for). How anyone could have ever decided that traditional X11 cut and paste was difficult to use and needed to be augmented with something copied from Microsoft is beyond the furthest horizon of my wildest nightmare. That's the fun of free software, people really are free to do wild, woolly and sometimes really stupid things with it. They will have all on single button mice soon. Believing in freedom requires that you also believe in tolerance. - Tel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Source IP with multihomed box
Hi. From: Andy Eager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:48:36 +1000 Does anyone know how the kernel decides what source IP address to use on a multihomed box? It comes from kernel routing table. ip command in iproute2 (or iproute, it depends on packaging) may help understanding the routing issue. For example, in my case: $ /sbin/ip route show 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.22 192.168.30.0/24 dev vmnet1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.30.1 10.0.0.0/8 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.0.1 default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 It shows that src address 10.0.0.1 is explicitly used for 10.0.0.0/8 network. On the other hand, there is no src address specification for default route. I'm doing stuff using ip routing rules and I need to know when and under what conditions a specific IP address is used. At first, according to the ip command reference, so-called IP Alias is not aliasing. If routing table shows that default via 192.168.99.244 dev eth1 it means that packets go out through PHYSICAL device eth1, so either LOGICAL device eth1 or eth:1 can be used for it. # The term PHYSICAL and LOGICAL may be inaccurate, however # the output of ip addr show may support my idea... I'm not sure how to choose LOGICAL device. Apart from the way to choose, if src address is not specified, it is not surprising that wrong src address was choosed, because kernel assumes that eth1 and eth1:1 are even for routing. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [Osia-discuss] Education Expo Report and Thanks
Hi all :) It was an awesome event, but just wanted to clarify something. quote who=Jeff Waugh First off, I'd like to thank Sara Kaan for encouraging (and convincing!) us to run a booth at the show, Pia Waugh for making sure it all came together, Sara and Moe between them did most of the work. They put many many hours into the prep for this event, and I'm hoping we can all convince them about next year ;) THANKYOU! Rock on Australia! Pia -- Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Jeff: Whatchootalkin'boutwillis? Pia: What's Willis? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] changing IP, hostname
I need to change machine's IP and hostname: If I change this with 'ipconfig...' that;s not permananent, is it ? where/what do I edit that on RH73 to effect such change ? I'd like to ssh to the machine, alter ip/host, reboot and ssh to new ip address/hostname is '/etc/sysconfig/network' the one ?? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] changing IP, hostname
quote who=Voytek I need to change machine's IP and hostname: If I change this with 'ipconfig...' that;s not permananent, is it ? where/what do I edit that on RH73 to effect such change ? I'd like to ssh to the machine, alter ip/host, reboot and ssh to new ip address/hostname is '/etc/sysconfig/network' the one ?? and, where do I change it from dhcp-assigned to fixed-ip address ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] changing IP, hostname
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 10:04 +1000, Voytek wrote: I need to change machine's IP and hostname: If I change this with 'ipconfig...' that;s not permananent, is it ? where/what do I edit that on RH73 to effect such change ? /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 if the host just has one ethernet port. Depending on the apps running, you may need to change other things. Eg. httpd listen address, named listen address. Cheers, Ben Ben Stringer = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] changing IP, hostname
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 10:12 +1000, Voytek wrote: quote who=Voytek I need to change machine's IP and hostname: If I change this with 'ipconfig...' that;s not permananent, is it ? where/what do I edit that on RH73 to effect such change ? I'd like to ssh to the machine, alter ip/host, reboot and ssh to new ip address/hostname is '/etc/sysconfig/network' the one ?? and, where do I change it from dhcp-assigned to fixed-ip address ? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 Eg. Fixed -- DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.1.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes DHCP DEVICE=eth0 DHCP_HOSTNAME=yourhost BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=yes For the fixed address config, be sure to set GATEWAY in /etc/sysconfig/network. eg. GATEWAY=192.168.1.254 Cheers, Ben Ben Stringer = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] changing IP, hostname
quote who=Ben Stringer /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 thanks, Ben so, to go from 'dhcp assigned' to 'fix-ip', I get rid of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 - DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=yes and put like - BROADCAST=some.ip USERCTL=no ONBOOT=yes PEERDNS=no TYPE=Ethernet MTU= DEVICE=eth0 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=some.ip NETWORK=some.ip GATEWAY=some.ip --- reboot, and, done -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] changing IP, hostname
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 10:04:36 +1000, Voytek wrote: I need to change machine's IP and hostname: where/what do I edit that on RH73 to effect such change ? Here's how you could have found this yourself: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find /etc/ -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep -l dropbear /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/fstab /etc/aliases /etc/sendmail.cf /etc/aliases.db /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf /etc/hosts [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find /etc/ -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep -l 192.168.1.16 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 /etc/ntp.conf /etc/hosts /etc/dhcpd.conf You may not find the same list of files I did, and you need to check each one that you do find. /etc/sysconfig/network sets the hostname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=dropbear.vastsystems.com.au GATEWAY=192.168.1.1 /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts/ifcfg-eth* sets the ip address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.1.16 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes Cheers, John -- They're not servers. They're Fisher-Price toys with delusions of grandeur. One of these days, I'm expecting someone to enter my office with a pull-along version of the Qube. playing a silly little tune as it rolls through the door. -- Chris King -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [Osia-discuss] Education Expo Report and Thanks
quote who=Pia Waugh Rock on Australia! Everyone knows Pia pays royalties to me when she says that, right? Just clarifying. ;-) - Jeff -- GUADEC 2005: May 29th-31st http://2005.guadec.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] changing IP, hostname
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 10:23 +1000, Voytek wrote: quote who=Ben Stringer /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 thanks, Ben so, to go from 'dhcp assigned' to 'fix-ip', I get rid of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 - DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=yes and put like - BROADCAST=some.ip USERCTL=no ONBOOT=yes PEERDNS=no TYPE=Ethernet MTU= DEVICE=eth0 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=some.ip NETWORK=some.ip GATEWAY=some.ip --- reboot, and, done Looks to be okay - you should look at the files listed in John Clarke's email also (eg. /etc/hosts), and make sure when you go to static IP that the host has a valid name server (as this may have been provided by the DHCP server). For the name server config, take a look in /etc/resolv.conf Cheers, Ben Ben Stringer = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Single button mice on Linux (was Clipboards under X)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will have all on single button mice soon. Single button mouse works quite well here. There's a thing you set up in sysctl.conf: # Enables mac multibuttoning dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1 Right Alt key becomes your right click. Right Control key becomes your paste button. I keep meaning to use it on my crappy Dell laptop with only two buttons. A proper paste key is nicer than having to hit two laptop mouse buttons simultaneously. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [Osia-discuss] Education Expo Report and Thanks
quote who=Steven D'Aprano Do you have any numbers for what percentage of people interested in Linux were from public vs private schools? Not precise numbers, but overwhelmingly tilted to the independent schools, based on yeah, we're using that, direct questions about applicability to independent school requirements and feedback from ISVs who were present. - Jeff -- GUADEC 2005: May 29th-31st http://2005.guadec.org/ Basically my philosophy on release management is that it should be like police brutality. - Maciej Stachowiak -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [Osia-discuss] Education Expo Report and Thanks
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:21:15PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Good morning everyone, We had a rocking weekend at the Education Expo! Excellent! Do you have any numbers for what percentage of people interested in Linux were from public vs private schools? -- Steven D'Aprano Operations Manager Cybersource Pty Ltd, ABN 13 053 904 082 Level 4, 10-16 Queen St, Melbourne VIC 3000 Tel: +61 3 9621 2377 Fax: +61 3 9621 2477 Web: http://www.cybersource.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Sources for Debian Sid (stable)
What entry do people have in their /etc/apt/sources.list for debian
stable(sid)?
I am trying to upgrade/? from woody to sid and changing stable to
unstable produced a pile of error messages about package lists.
TIA
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Re: [SLUG] Sources for Debian Sid (stable)
On Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:49 +1000, Terry Collins uttered What entry do people have in their /etc/apt/sources.list for debian stable(sid)? Heh. Stable is woody, not sid. :-) I am trying to upgrade/? from woody to sid and changing stable to unstable produced a pile of error messages about package lists. I am currently very much in love with: deb http://mirror.optusnet.com.au/debian sid main contrib non-free Cheers, -- Steve Why does everyone say 'Relax' when they're about to do something terrible? - Ensign Harry Kim, USS Voyager -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sources for Debian Sid (stable)
I didn't realise that optus ran a debian mirror. Any ideas if Optus mirror use counts toward your monthly 'allowance'? It'd be nice if they could add in an ubuntu mirror in there! Rob On 5/19/05, Steve Kowalik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:49 +1000, Terry Collins uttered What entry do people have in their /etc/apt/sources.list for debian stable(sid)? Heh. Stable is woody, not sid. :-) I am trying to upgrade/? from woody to sid and changing stable to unstable produced a pile of error messages about package lists. I am currently very much in love with: deb http://mirror.optusnet.com.au/debian sid main contrib non-free Cheers, -- Steve Why does everyone say 'Relax' when they're about to do something terrible? - Ensign Harry Kim, USS Voyager -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Rob Sharp email/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://sharp.id.au pgp: 0E2C C63B BA04 DEB4 7CC0 84FD 17E3 6AA4 87FB 62DF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sources for Debian Sid (stable)
the nice people at pacific do also (mirror.pacific.net.au) if your isp is peered with them then it will count as free data (if your isp does that, which they do seem to) Dean Rob Sharp wrote: I didn't realise that optus ran a debian mirror. Any ideas if Optus mirror use counts toward your monthly 'allowance'? It'd be nice if they could add in an ubuntu mirror in there! Rob On 5/19/05, Steve Kowalik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:49 +1000, Terry Collins uttered What entry do people have in their /etc/apt/sources.list for debian stable(sid)? Heh. Stable is woody, not sid. :-) I am trying to upgrade/? from woody to sid and changing stable to unstable produced a pile of error messages about package lists. I am currently very much in love with: deb http://mirror.optusnet.com.au/debian sid main contrib non-free Cheers, -- Steve Why does everyone say 'Relax' when they're about to do something terrible? - Ensign Harry Kim, USS Voyager -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] glut apps giving blank window
Would anyone happen to know why an app which uses libglut might display a blank screen under ubuntu but work fine on every other linux box I've tried? I'm thinking xorg might be the issue. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
