[SLUG] Where is squid in Ubuntu?

2005-06-01 Thread Carlo Sogono



I'm trying to look 
for the squid (proxy) package in Ubuntu using aptitude (sorry, no GUI so I can't 
use synaptic). Aside from my CDROM I have these sources:
deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu 
hoary main restricteddeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu 
hoary-updates main restricteddeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu 
hoary universedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricteddeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu 
hoary-security universe
I know it should be 
there somewhere. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,Carlo



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RE: [SLUG] Where is squid in Ubuntu?

2005-06-01 Thread Carlo Sogono
 Sorry, I found it.
 
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I'm trying to look for the squid (proxy) package in Ubuntu using
aptitude (sorry, no GUI so I can't use synaptic). Aside from my CDROM I
have these sources:

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  hoary main restricted
deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  hoary-updates main restricted
deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  hoary universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  hoary-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  hoary-security universe

I know it should be there somewhere. Any help would be
appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Carlo
 
 
 
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[SLUG] SQL Brain teaser...

2005-06-01 Thread Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux
I'm trying to do some metrics on how long it takes to process an order in 
our system based on time between printing the picking slip and bagging the 
goods for dispatch. The aim is to determin the maximum performance if we 
were to have one guy do nothing but pick  pack orders.

At first glance you might think this would do
select 
  round(avg((unix_timestamp(docketdate) 
  -unix_timestamp(pickslip_printed))/60)) 
  as packmins from orders
  where pickslip_printed is not null

But alas that's not the true picture because in reality the events overlap 
each other due to operators batching up the pick slips or puting some 
aside while issues are dealt with.

Example data set..
select 
  ordno,pickslip_printed,docketdate,
  round((unix_timestamp(docketdate) 
  -unix_timestamp(pickslip_printed))/60) 
  as packmins from orders where pickslip_printed is not null 
  order by pickslip_printed;
+---+-+-+--+
| ordno | pickslip_printed| docketdate  | packmins |
+---+-+-+--+
| ordno | 2005-06-01 14:32:16 | 2005-06-01 14:34:47 |3 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:12:27 | 2005-06-01 15:27:26 |   15 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:12:28 | 2005-06-01 15:30:25 |   18 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:12:29 | 2005-06-01 15:21:53 |9 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:41:29 | 2005-06-01 16:12:07 |   31 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:41:32 | 2005-06-01 16:11:45 |   30 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:41:33 | 2005-06-01 15:52:17 |   11 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:41:33 | 2005-06-01 15:49:15 |8 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:41:34 | 2005-06-01 15:48:30 |7 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:41:34 | 2005-06-01 15:45:56 |4 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:53:00 | 2005-06-01 15:57:57 |5 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:53:00 | 2005-06-01 16:01:33 |9 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 15:53:00 | 2005-06-01 16:00:24 |7 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 16:02:25 | 2005-06-01 16:04:00 |2 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 16:02:26 | 2005-06-01 16:08:09 |6 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 16:22:40 | 2005-06-01 16:34:49 |   12 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 16:22:41 | 2005-06-01 16:36:26 |   14 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 16:22:42 | 2005-06-01 16:37:52 |   15 |
| ordno | 2005-06-01 16:22:42 | 2005-06-01 16:25:59 |3 |
+---+-+-+--+

See what I mean, between 15:30 and 16:00 there were 9 orders started but
the average will be 12.4 minutes per order by the previous query when in
reality it's 9 orders in 30 minutes due to batching.

Or to put it into perspective, if you add up the packing minutes it's 1.7 
times the actual elapsed time :-(

Anybody got any smart ideas for reporting purposes? I don't mind if 
performance sucks because I will do it on a replicated database.

Essentially there needs to be a way of grouping orders with a similar 
pickslip_printed time. Maybe we could look at pickslip_printed in terms of 
5 minute chunks. That doesen't quite work because more orders are started 
before all the others are finished.

select 
from_unixtime(round(unix_timestamp(pickslip_printed)/300)*300) as 
fudgestart,
avg(round((unix_timestamp(docketdate)
-unix_timestamp(pickslip_printed))/60)) as packmins
from orders where pickslip_printed is not null 
group by fudgestart order by fudgestart;

For now the most practical thing I guess is to take the lesser of 
(max(docketdate)-min(pickslip_printed))/order_count
or the first query I mentioned.

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Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-06-01 Thread James
On 6/1/05, Ryan Verner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 07:01 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 
  Ryan Verner wrote:
   On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 22:28 +1000, David wrote:
  
  I have a routine that runs an rsync to sync data from a Linux fs to a
  vfat fs which I have smbmounted on a linux fs.
  
  It runs quite happily for a while, then stalls.
  
  the rsync command I an using is:
  rsync -vrtL --delete /home/ext3fs /home/vfatfs
  
  What is the best way to find out why it might be stalling?  I know
  where, but why.
  
  
  
  I've had a lot of trouble with rsync stalling. I've managed to cure it
  without understanding the reasons. Try adding --bwlimit=
  
  
   Sounds like packet shaping somewhere is causing packet loss, which rsync
   tends not to handle very well.

This may explain your problem and fits in with a packet shaping issue

http://jared.sonicspike.net/pipermail/adsl-qos/2003-November/000477.html
and this 
http://edseek.com/~jasonb/articles/traffic_shaping/scenarios.html

you may not be shaping with iptables but your net admin may
be shaping you on their switches etc..

 
  I wouldn't be expecting packet shaping on a LAN.

Never say never.  A lot of switches are now implementing CoS
boundaries on their user ports.

Then again I could just be firing from the hip ;-) But it is worth a look

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[SLUG] Debian /etc/apt/sources.list

2005-06-01 Thread Terry Collins


I know this has been posted before, but searching on the archive doesn't 
spit anything related out


Looking for a listing of Debian Wooody(stable) /etc/apt/sources.list

Particularly australian source for security.

I've just done a base installation of cdroms and apt-get update spews 
over the default security setting.


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[SLUG] XP access to ext3 linux partition

2005-06-01 Thread linley caetan
I have just installed ubuntu as dual boot on my sony
vaio.
Is there a straighforward way of accessing the linux
patition from windows ?

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Re: [SLUG] XP access to ext3 linux partition

2005-06-01 Thread wolfgang

Hi,

if you have a ext2/3 linux partionen you can try the following tool

http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm

Works for me (win98 / debian ext3)

cheers

wolfgang

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I have just installed ubuntu as dual boot on my sony
vaio.
Is there a straighforward way of accessing the linux
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Re: [SLUG] XP access to ext3 linux partition

2005-06-01 Thread Phil
I used this and it just crashes my Win2K partition everytime I access 
one of the mapped drives.


So be warned it's not necessarily so easy.

Phil.
wolfgang wrote:


Hi,

if you have a ext2/3 linux partionen you can try the following tool

http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm

Works for me (win98 / debian ext3)

cheers

wolfgang

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[SLUG] access ext3 partion from xp dual boot

2005-06-01 Thread linleycaetan

I have just installed ubuntu as dual boot on my sony vaio.
Is there a straighforward way of accessing the linux patition from windows ?

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Re: [SLUG] Debian /etc/apt/sources.list

2005-06-01 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:35 pm, Terry Collins wrote:
 I know this has been posted before, but searching on the archive doesn't
 spit anything related out

 Looking for a listing of Debian Wooody(stable) /etc/apt/sources.list

 Particularly australian source for security.

 I've just done a base installation of cdroms and apt-get update spews
 over the default security setting.

 TIA

This is what is in my sources.list on my Woody-based servers:
...
#
# Security Patches and Standard Patches for Woody
#
#deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian-security/ stable/updates main contrib 
non-free
...

Watch the wrap :)

My ISP peers with Pacific so it's fast for me, YMMV.  Another alternative 
might be http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-security/

HTH,

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[SLUG] Linux/Windows shared partition question

2005-06-01 Thread Leslie Katz
I have a computer which, until recently, had one hard drive. My operating 
system was Windows XP Professional. The drive had two partitions, one the 
usual C:\, of file type NTFS, and the other, of file type FAT32, a hidden 
one from which, as I understand it, I can restore Windows, if necessary.


I recently installed a second hard drive in the computer and, on it, 
installed Fedora Core 3. On the second drive, I created a /boot partition 
and a / partition, both of file type ext3. I also created a swap partition.


I knew I could create on the second drive a partition of the vfat file type 
and so I did that as well, understanding that that partition would be 
capable of being used by both OSs.


However, that partition does not appear when I run Windows.

Was my understanding wrong? Have I simply created an unnecessary partion 
accessible only by FC3?


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[SLUG] Co-lo, UML Dedicated servers

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Treacy

Morning Sluggers,

Just after some recommendations on the above probably in that order.

Machines don't need to be overly powerful but reasonable traffic 
allowance would be good.


The Co-lo would need to be located in sydney the others I'm fairly 
ambivalent about (but if O/S a nice exchange rate helps)


After experiences both good and bad.

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] XP access to ext3 linux partition

2005-06-01 Thread QuantumG

linley caetan wrote:


I have just installed ubuntu as dual boot on my sony
vaio.
Is there a straighforward way of accessing the linux
patition from windows ?
 



I recently installed an ext3 device driver for windows xp.  It's way too 
unstable for actual use.  I think the simple answer is no.


Trent

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Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-06-01 Thread Howard Lowndes



James wrote:

I wouldn't be expecting packet shaping on a LAN.



Never say never.  A lot of switches are now implementing CoS
boundaries on their user ports.

Then again I could just be firing from the hip ;-) But it is worth a look



Agreed, but in this case I manage the whole LAN (it's very basic) and it 
only has hubs, not switches.


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Re: [SLUG] Problems with rsync

2005-06-01 Thread David Kempe

Howard Lowndes wrote:
Agreed, but in this case I manage the whole LAN (it's very basic) and it 
only has hubs, not switches.




Theres your problems.
get switches

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[SLUG] Re: Debian /etc/apt/sources.list

2005-06-01 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 08:35:01PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
 Looking for a listing of Debian Wooody(stable) /etc/apt/sources.list

ftp.au.debian.org
ftp.wa.au.debian.org
mirror.pacific.net.au
mirror.internode.on.net (Internode customers only, I believe)
mirror.aarnet.edu.au (.au IPs only, I've been told)

Etc etc.

Prepend deb http:// and append /debian woody main contrib non-free to each.

 Particularly australian source for security.

A lot of mirrors don't carry security updates, because you typically don't
want any delay in getting your security updates, as you would get from a 2nd
or 3rd tier mirror.  

 I've just done a base installation of cdroms and apt-get update spews 
 over the default security setting.

?  As in it throws an error from http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates
main contrib non-free?  That's just *weird*.

- Matt


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Re: [SLUG] SQL Brain teaser...

2005-06-01 Thread Steven O'Reilly
Grant

I'm not sure that what you have is really a SQL syntax problem.  

It looks like an Operations research queuing problem.  Googling on
this should help - or confuse.

hope this is relevant

Steven O'Reilly


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 I'm trying to do some metrics on how long it takes to process an order in
 our system based on time between printing the picking slip and bagging the
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 were to have one guy do nothing but pick  pack orders.

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Re: [SLUG] SQL Brain teaser...

2005-06-01 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 09:46 +1000, Steven O'Reilly wrote:
 Grant
 
 I'm not sure that what you have is really a SQL syntax problem.  
 
 It looks like an Operations research queuing problem.  Googling on
 this should help - or confuse.

Or talk to Andrew Cowie whom I believe has some expertise in this arena.

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Re: [SLUG] XP access to ext3 linux partition

2005-06-01 Thread Lindsay Holmwood

http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2005/02/msg00698.html

Might help. :-)

Lindsay

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I have just installed ubuntu as dual boot on my sony
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Is there a straighforward way of accessing the linux
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[SLUG] Upgrading Firefox on Debian Woody

2005-06-01 Thread Terry Collins

Has anyone been able to do this?

I am attempting to upgrade Firefox (V0.7) on Debian Woody, but it seems 
to be at am impass.


Have downloads the 1.0.4 upgrade and attempted to install it.
First problem is that it requires libstdc++.so.5. and Woody only has up 
to V3.


Does anyone know of a way around this?


This all started when I went looking for a plug-in to display gifs 
(mutter mutter, tax stuff using whereis for distances)




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Re: [SLUG] Co-lo, UML Dedicated servers

2005-06-01 Thread Bruce Badger

  Just after some recommendations on the above probably in that order.
  
  Machines don't need to be overly powerful but reasonable traffic 
  allowance would be good.
  
  The Co-lo would need to be located in sydney the others I'm fairly 
  ambivalent about (but if O/S a nice exchange rate helps)

All OpenSkills services are run on UML servers hosted by:

  http://www.bytemark.co.uk/index.html

Which has worked out very well for us.

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Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Firefox on Debian Woody

2005-06-01 Thread Marek Wawrzyczny
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:57, Terry Collins wrote:
 Have downloads the 1.0.4 upgrade and attempted to install it.
 First problem is that it requires libstdc++.so.5. and Woody only has up
 to V3.

 Does anyone know of a way around this?

Missing libraries sometimes happen with Gentoo too... I often symlink my 
latest version to whatever is required. Most of the time it seems to work 
fine (given there are no drastic used API changes between the two library 
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[SLUG] Imp with Dovecot and Qmail

2005-06-01 Thread Peter Rundle

Sluggers,

I've installed the latest Imp (Horde) on FC4 with Dovecot as the IMAP server and it looks pretty schwank except that the only folder that I can see is Inbox. When I compose and send a mail it sends it ok but it then reports that the imap server said that mail/sent-mail is not a valid folder and it can't save to the sent folder. 


Also it appears to no-longer have a Hide Deleted | Purge Deleted option on 
the menu.

Does anyone have any cluesticks?

TIA's

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Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Firefox on Debian Woody

2005-06-01 Thread Matthew Moor

Terry Collins wrote:


Has anyone been able to do this?

I am attempting to upgrade Firefox (V0.7) on Debian Woody, but it 
seems to be at am impass.


Have downloads the 1.0.4 upgrade and attempted to install it.
First problem is that it requires libstdc++.so.5. and Woody only has 
up to V3.


Does anyone know of a way around this?


This all started when I went looking for a plug-in to display gifs 
(mutter mutter, tax stuff using whereis for distances)


Try using backports -- they at least have 1.0 available. (presumably 
this is patched for security, but ...)

http://www.backports.org/

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Imp with Dovecot and Qmail

2005-06-01 Thread Peter Rundle

Answering my own question (why do you think of the obvious after posting?)


the only folder that I can see is Inbox.


Edit ~/horde/imp/config/servers.php and change folders from 'Mail/' to ''.
I.E $servers['imap'] = array(...,'folders' = '',...);

Also it appears to no-longer have a Hide Deleted | Purge Deleted 
option on the menu.


This was fixed by cleaning out the old sql options data and starting fresh.

HTH anybody else considering IMP.

P.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux/Windows shared partition question

2005-06-01 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 06:17:20AM +1000, Leslie Katz wrote:
 
 [fat on second drive ] partition does not appear when I run Windows.

I think there are some subtle differences in the partition table
between linux and windows.  If sharing, do the initial partitioning,
(ie. create at least one partition) with windows first.

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Re: [SLUG] SQL Brain teaser...

2005-06-01 Thread Phil Scarratt

Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux wrote:
I'm trying to do some metrics on how long it takes to process an order in 
our system based on time between printing the picking slip and bagging the 
goods for dispatch. The aim is to determin the maximum performance if we 
were to have one guy do nothing but pick  pack orders.




SNIP



See what I mean, between 15:30 and 16:00 there were 9 orders started but
the average will be 12.4 minutes per order by the previous query when in
reality it's 9 orders in 30 minutes due to batching.

Or to put it into perspective, if you add up the packing minutes it's 1.7 
times the actual elapsed time :-(


Anybody got any smart ideas for reporting purposes? I don't mind if 
performance sucks because I will do it on a replicated database.




Could you simply take the time between the first printed picking slip 
and the last docketdate, count the number of orders in between and 
average? This may or may not be as accurate as you would like



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Re: [SLUG] Linux/Windows shared partition question

2005-06-01 Thread Tony Lissner

Leslie Katz wrote:
I have a computer which, until recently, had one hard drive. My 
operating system was Windows XP Professional. The drive had two 
partitions, one the usual C:\, of file type NTFS, and the other, of file 
type FAT32, a hidden one from which, as I understand it, I can restore 
Windows, if necessary.


I recently installed a second hard drive in the computer and, on it, 
installed Fedora Core 3. On the second drive, I created a /boot 
partition and a / partition, both of file type ext3. I also created a 
swap partition.


I knew I could create on the second drive a partition of the vfat file 
type and so I did that as well, understanding that that partition would 
be capable of being used by both OSs.


However, that partition does not appear when I run Windows.


Have you formatted it in Windows?



Was my understanding wrong? Have I simply created an unnecessary partion 
accessible only by FC3?




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