Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?

2005-10-17 Thread pesoy misak
thanks anth

that is really helpful

--- Anth Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd certainly recommend FreeBSD for this purpose,
 but if you want to do some
 reading (and question asking), you might want to
 check out the forums at
 
 http://www.webhostingtalk.com
 
 and
 
 http://www.webhostingtalk.com.au (for an Aus
 perspective)
 
 and see what the opinions are of people whose
 primary business is
 webhosting, day-in, day-out.
 
 cheers,
 Anth
 
 On 10/17/05, pesoy misak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
  I just got a request from my friend to build a web
  hosting system for his business but i don't know
 what
  is the best distro for it.
 
  Any suggestion is welcome either BSD or Linux or
 any
  other OS but not ms*** please since it costly
 
  many thanks in advance
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?

2005-10-17 Thread pesoy misak


--- Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 they are all very relative.
 
 powerfull tools are inherintally more complex to
 use.
 simplicity tends to be a trade for advanced
 features.
 
 i do have the pleasure of working with windows at
 work
 nt4, 2k and 2k3. and they are getting better (but
 are
 getting better at consuming cpu also)
 
 any sort of internet server needs maintanance and
 someone
 to keep an eye on it. putting a machine on the
 internet
 and just forgetting about it is *very* *very* bad.
 thats
 with any operating system.
 
 however, i work with lots of different operating
 systems
 and have put in the effort to make myself as 'os
 independant'
 as possible. i think everyone can agree that not
 tying yourself
 to an os or distribution cant be a bad thing.
 
 but on with a more serious answer
 
 what sort of clustering do you want? do you need
 clustering?
 what is 'easy maintenance' for you?

i would prefer on load balancing and high availability
for my web server without much downtime probably not
high performance :) previously i was thinking about
having openmosix as well for the web hosting to make
the availability high 

easy maintenance to me is like having all in one place
such as having a separate disk space for every users
and single password for every services including mail,
web service, etc etc 
 
 where on the magical 'learning curve' are you?

I would like to learn alot mean like I like dealing
every single aspect of the system that i would build
like first person learning slackware, FreeBSD or even
debian

 a windows webserver doesnt really sit much further
 down on the
 learning curve than unix webservers. most security
 and performance
 issues (IMO) are fairly universal.
 
 
 Dean
 
 On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:39 am, pesoy misak said:
 
  Hi again
 
  regarding Unixes
 
  how about the clustering services, easy
 maintenance,
  and learning curve for having this boxes
 
 
  --- Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  this is a linux list so... ;)
 
  personally, bong.com.au is 3 x freebsd servers
 
  kusanagi.bong.com.au
  aramaki.bong.com.au
  ishikawa.bong.com.au
 
  all sgi 1200's
 
  however, if you really dont know much about unix
 and
  friends (tm)
  then i would go with centos. its based on red hat
  enterprise and
  when i tried it, i was happy with the gui etc.
 
  i wouldnt recommend fedora, suse or gentoo.
 
  openbsd is secure, but after install its only as
  secure as the user who
  starts installing random application server
 software
  makes it.
 
  i choose freebsd over openbsd because i feel
 freebsd
  has more mature
  SMP and is faster on i386. also, the freebsd
 ports
  tree isnt versioned
  like the openbsd one is.
 
  that kind of leads into the argument, of if a
 server
  should be more
  organic in its software, or should be installed,
 run
  and replaced.
 
  i choose bsd over linux because to me it just
 seems
  to be a better
  server. thats my right and im thankfull that open
  source allows me
  to have the options to pick things based on
  technical merits and
  also unsubstantiatable vibes.
 
  debian is also a fine choice. i should say that
 all
  my desktops
  run debian. i love it - but i dont use it for
 intel.
  amd64 and powerpc.
 
  crux looks good as it has bsd style init (which
 is
  one reason i
  prefer bsd as as server - i like bsd style init)
 
  Dean
 
  On Mon, October 17, 2005 9:05 am, pesoy misak
 said:
   Hi all
  
   I just got a request from my friend to build a
 web
   hosting system for his business but i don't
 know
  what
   is the best distro for it.
  
   Any suggestion is welcome either BSD or Linux
 or
  any
   other OS but not ms*** please since it costly
  
   many thanks in advance
  
  
  
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Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?

2005-10-17 Thread Dean Hamstead

i would prefer on load balancing and high availability
for my web server without much downtime probably not
high performance :) previously i was thinking about
having openmosix as well for the web hosting to make
the availability high 


you cant really load balance on one server.


easy maintenance to me is like having all in one place
such as having a separate disk space for every users
and single password for every services including mail,
web service, etc etc 


so home directories and universal authentication scheme?
these are all part of unix by default.


I would like to learn alot mean like I like dealing
every single aspect of the system that i would build
like first person learning slackware, FreeBSD or even
debian


im still curious if you want gui tools

anyway i would recommend centos if youve never used linux
before. if your comfortable with unix then debian will be
an excellent experient. in either case
i think youll find webmin to be a good web based admin tool.
equally, if you are comfortable with unix youll also
enjoy the freebsd experience.


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[SLUG] ISP

2005-10-17 Thread Juergen Busam
Hi!

Can anyone recommend a reliable ISP (with good Overseas connection) with
at least the possibility to have 3M down and 640 K Up, or even better a
symmetric connection with 3M down and up?

regards

Juergen
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Re: [SLUG] ISP

2005-10-17 Thread DaZZa
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Juergen Busam wrote:

 Can anyone recommend a reliable ISP (with good Overseas connection) with
 at least the possibility to have 3M down and 640 K Up, or even better a
 symmetric connection with 3M down and up?

Your options are fairly limited in speed. Unless you're living within a
short distance of one of the exchanges which have been upgraded to ADSL2+,
you're not going to get 3 meg on an average ADSL connection.

You *might* get lucky with a business grade connection if you're not on an
exchange which isn't ADSL2+ - but if you did you'd be up for at least
$1000 a month.

Internode is one ISP which has some exchanges at ADSL2+ - check out
http://cgi.agile.com.au/cgi-bin/dsl-coverage-table?Carrier=Agile
for exchanges which are enabled and http://www.internode.on.net/adsl2/ for
more information regarding the plans.

http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc-plan.cfm is the place to check for
compatible xDSL/Cable plans.

DaZZa



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[SLUG] No soundcards found ...

2005-10-17 Thread Adam Bogacki
I've been through this before but memory is rusty ..

My system is in the process of adapting to Xorg and a number of
settings have to be re-adjusted to achieve a Deb unstable system 
I have taken for granted for what seems like a long time.

My system suddenly could not detect my rodent  lost sound.

I think I've solved the first via 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
and modprobing psmouse  mousedev to /etc/modules

.. but trying the same with sound gave me 

Tux:~# modprobe snd_intel8x0
Setting up ALSA ...*/etc/init.s/alsa-utils:
Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error
message 'alsactl: load_state: 1236: No soundcards found ..

I've seen different variations of the same message in various logs.

My Creative soundcard has previously had no problems with detection.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [SLUG] Linux or BSD for Webhosting?

2005-10-17 Thread O Plameras

pesoy misak wrote:


snipped

i would prefer on load balancing and high availability
for my web server without much downtime probably not
high performance :) previously i was thinking about
having openmosix as well for the web hosting to make
the availability high 

 



Apache is the server of choice for more and more servers.
http://www.apache.org


easy maintenance to me is like having all in one place
such as having a separate disk space for every users
and single password for every services including mail,
web service, etc etc 

 



1. Openldap  ( http://www.openldap.org ) for address directory, resources,
   and services;
2. Cyrus-sasl(http://asg.web.cmu.edu/) for secure and single-sign-on using
  Openldap (plain, digest-md5 or GSSAPI over 
Kerberos5-http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/);

3. WebAuth (http://webauthv3.stanford.edu/) for Web authentication also
  using Openldap and Cyrus-sasl as part of a single-sign-on;
4. Sendmail(www.sendmail.org) and Cyrus-imapd (http://asg.web.cmu.edu/)
  for SMTP, MUA, and support for many mail clients using Openldap and 
Cyrus-sasl;
   Sendmail is now easy to install, configure, and maintain using M4 
macros,

   makefile tools and easily automated, contrary to what many percieved;
5. Samba(www.samba.org) authentication and files/printers services for
  Microsoft clients using  Openldap and Cyrus-sasl and therefore using 
the same

  single-sign-on facilities as above.
6. Single point of control and management for numerous DNS servers using
  dns2ldap on Openldap and cyrus-sasl (Have not tested this part yet).

Two main features of foregoing are a) Single-Sign-On and b) High Network 
Security for all
services and resources using Openldap as the underlying authentication 
base and Cyrus-SASL

as the underlying security framework protocol.

Hope this helps.

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[SLUG] Dual Booting Query - *Not* about layout...

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony O'Hara
Title: Dual Booting Query - *Not* about layout...






Hi all, 


In the course of my day, I am occasionally forced to boot Windows I also do this remotely...


However, whenever I do, I am stuck with a Windows machine until I can go back to the office, or have someone select 

the correct bootloader option for me on reboot (Which isnt always an option)


I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to re-apply my bootloader settings (yes, Its lilo, and I dont want to get into any

religious wars about it.. I just like it.. :) :)) so I can go back to the warm fuzzy Gentoo install I have? I've got a ext2/ext3 

browser for XP, so I can read and edit/save files to the ext2 boot partition. But how do I re-run lilo? Is this a case of grub 

being the only thing that'll do it because saving the config file would suffice??


Just wondering 


Cheers!


Anthony 




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Re: [SLUG] Dual Booting Query - *Not* about layout...

2005-10-17 Thread Simon Bowden

Hi Anthony,

In situations like this, I tell lilo before rebooting to boot to Windows 
(lilo image label) for the next boot only.


# lilo -R Windows

As opposed to -D Windows (or editing lilo.conf), which sets the default 
boot option to that label.


Cheers,

 - Simon


On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Anthony O'Hara wrote:


Hi all,

In the course of my day, I am occasionally forced to boot Windows. I also do
this remotely...

However, whenever I do, I am stuck with a Windows machine until I can go
back to the office, or have someone select
the correct bootloader option for me on reboot. (Which isnt always an
option.)

I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to re-apply my bootloader settings (yes,
Its lilo, and I don't want to get into any
religious wars about it.. I just like it.. :) :)) so I can go back to the
warm fuzzy Gentoo install I have? I've got a ext2/ext3
browser for XP, so I can read and edit/save files to the ext2 boot
partition. But how do I re-run lilo? Is this a case of grub
being the only thing that'll do it because saving the config file would
suffice??

Just wondering.

Cheers!

Anthony.




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[SLUG] Re: Linux or BSD for Webhosting?

2005-10-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:05:18PM -0700, pesoy misak wrote:
 I just got a request from my friend to build a web
 hosting system for his business but i don't know what
 is the best distro for it.

I presume you're talking about hosting multiple sites and such, rather than
a webserver.

I've recently deployed SysCP (http://www.syscp.de/) to a client, and so far
I've found it to be quite nice.  Looks decent (although there are a few
little grammatical problems due to the main authors being German), provides
all the basic functionality you might need (multiple domains including
aliases, mail domains, full quotas on everything) and doesn't require diving
into the base system much-if-at-all.  Installs natively on top of Debian
Sarge, but I've installed it quite easily on Ubuntu Hoary.

I agree with Jeff's sentiment overall, though -- use what you're familiar
with already unless you're keen on making this a learning experience.

- Matt
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[SLUG] gönnen Sie es Ihren Kindern - und sich s elbst auch

2005-10-17 Thread Herbsturlaub
Title: Herbstferien





  
  



  die Kinder haben 
  Herbsturlaub 
  bereiten Sie ihnen (Ihren Kindern) 
  und sich selbst einen Riesenspass mit Urlaub in Spanien 
  
  Das wird ein unvergessliches Erlebnis 
  bleiben. Sie können ohne den beruflichen Stress sonnige Tage mit 
  Ihrer Familie verbringen. Sie wird es Ihnen danken. Und alle werden 
  neugestärkt zurückkehren. 
  Wenn Sie erst wissen, wieviel das kostet, 
  werden Sie angenehm überrascht sein. Ein Appartment kostet für ein 
  Woche gerademal 211 € (für zwei Wochen 322 €), und 
  das für bis zu vier Personen (grössere Apartments siehe hier). Die Fahrt mit 
  dem Auto oder mit Billigflug ist auch nicht soo teuer - essen 
  müssen Sie zuhause auch. 
  Alles in allem, ein preisgünstiger 
  Riesenspass 
  auf was warten Sie, rufen Sie uns an: 
  0034-629 
  759 385 oder 
  Sie senden uns eine eMail 
  Montaña del Mar / Spanien 
  Sie wollen mehr wissen? klicken Sie hier 
  wo liegt Montaña del 
  Mar?mehr über Montaña 
  del Marreservieren 

  


  















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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm

2005-10-17 Thread Jamie Honan
 Anyone interested in ... or meeting
 Bryan Cantrill (the man who famously asked Linux kernel hacker Dave Miller,
 Have you ever kissed a girl?) should scoot on down to the Sun offices in
 North Sydney tonight.

I have a problem with the original 'kissed a girl' posting.

Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem
attack on Dave Miller.

Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule
him.

Courtesy and politeness are very important in arguments. To achieve
understanding is better than to winning, especially by underhand means.

'Logical argument' in wikipedia.

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[SLUG] USB Dial-up / Telephony Modem

2005-10-17 Thread prundle
Sluggers,

I'm looking for advice / recomendations on supported USB modems for dial-up.
Especially would like to hear from people who've got a USB dial-up modem that
is powered by the USB cable, I.E doesn't require an external power supply, and
they've got it working under the 2.6 kernel.

Also links to any how-tos much appreciated.

TIA's

Pete.

P.S Not ADSL modem, dial-up. thanks.


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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm

2005-10-17 Thread O Plameras

Jamie Honan wrote:


Anyone interested in ... or meeting
Bryan Cantrill (the man who famously asked Linux kernel hacker Dave Miller,
Have you ever kissed a girl?) should scoot on down to the Sun offices in
North Sydney tonight.
   



I have a problem with the original 'kissed a girl' posting.

Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem
attack on Dave Miller.

 




I checked from wikipedia what's meant by 'ad hominem' and I found
this definition.

*ad hominem* appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect



Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule
him.

Courtesy and politeness are very important in arguments. To achieve
understanding is better than to winning, especially by underhand means.

 



This is the reason why everyone needs to remind ourselves and all 'list 
posters' of the
rules of behaviour in cyberspace (or real-life-space) that's called the 
'netequette'

( http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/ ).


'Logical argument' in wikipedia.

Jamie
 



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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jamie Honan

 Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem attack on Dave
 Miller.

Well, that describes most of its amusement value...

 Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule him.
 
 Courtesy and politeness are very important in arguments.

Dave didn't exactly start out with courtesy and politeness. :-)

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Using Debian Alien

2005-10-17 Thread Richard Hayes
Dear list,

I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I 
downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box.

So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours.

So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with Alien.

I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for using 
Alien

Is there a How-to or instruction guide?
  
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Re: [SLUG] Using Debian Alien

2005-10-17 Thread James Purser
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 07:54 +1000, Richard Hayes wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I 
 downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box.
 
 So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours.
 
 So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with Alien.
 
 I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for 
 using 
 Alien
 
 Is there a How-to or instruction guide?
   

Try $: man alien
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Re: [SLUG] Using Debian Alien

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Richard Hayes

 I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I
 downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box.
 
 So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours.
 
 So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with
 Alien.
 
 I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for
 using Alien
 
 Is there a How-to or instruction guide?

Check /usr/share/doc/alien, man alien or alien --help. :-)

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[SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1

2005-10-17 Thread James Gray
Hi All,

Some may have seen my Breezy upgrade success story (on the Kubuntu list).  The 
reality seems that the stability issue under Hoary that prompted the upgrade 
in the first place is still there.  I've narrowed down the start of the 
problem to the kernel update made in response to USN-199-1 (Ubuntu Security 
Notice).

I'm running an AMD64 3000+ on an Asus K8VSE Deluxe with 1GB of RAM with the 
latest 2.6.10-5.?-amd64-k8 kernel.  I've reliably recreated the fault with 
the following:
1. Boot normally.
2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + buffer is
   almost 1GB) with no swap in use.
3. Load something else large enough to prompt the kernel to try and free some
   buffer/cache or swap out to disk.
4. Kernel will throw a bunch of Unable to handle paging request at
   0x0? (the address varies but seems to always be in the range that is
   only buffer/cache) into /var/log/kern.log.  The remaining details in the
   log refer to {page_clear +7} or other paging requests with
   all the usual register contents etc.
5. At this point, what ever I loaded in #3 will stop with a Killed message.
6. Either soon after 5, or immediately, the kernel will panic and it's
   Goodnight Irene for the system.

I've upgraded from Hoary-Breezy thinking maybe Breezy's kernel wasn't 
affected, but it suffers the same problem on my hardware.

I ran memtest86 all night (over 10 hours) and no errors were found. I'm 
running the latest BIOS for my board (1007.002 IIRC) and all memory timings 
are default - ie, no over-clocking.  The system has been rock solid since I 
installed Hoary earlier this year.  This problem only appeared after the 
kernel update in USN-199-1.  My other machine (a Centrino laptop) running 
Hoary also installed the problematic kernel *version*, but it is a 686 kernel 
not an amd64-k8, is not affected with this paging error.  Maybe this is 
something screwy with the AMD64-K8 code/kernel?

Anyone else seeing this behaviour??  Should I raise a bug??

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Gray

 2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + buffer is
almost 1GB) with no swap in use.

So free(1) definitely shows that you have swap available?

 Anyone else seeing this behaviour??  Should I raise a bug??

This is a great report, you should definitely file a bug. :-)

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[SLUG] Finding which device has a particular Mac address

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Rundle

Sluggers,

Does anyone know of a Linux network tool which will allow me to find out 
which device on my network is responsible for outputting the following 
packets as captured by tcpdump -i eth0?


  08:44:49.639692 (NOV-ETHII) .00:00:c9:05:e5:cd.4013 
  .ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.0452:ipx-sap-nearest-req FileServer

It would appear to be a PC with IPX protocol installed. But which one? I 
need a reverse Arp, but RARP as I understand it is a protocol for giving 
an IP address to something like a diskless node on boot up. I don't know 
if it can be used to ask the machine with the given Mac to confess it's IP.


TIA's

Pete.



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[SLUG] Software Idea Patents - another nudge

2005-10-17 Thread Bruce Badger
SLUGgers, if you think software idea patents are a bad thing, you can
do a little something to help, at least in Europe.

There is a poll to find the European of the Year which is open to
anyone, no matter where they live.  Some of the candidates have worked
to keep software idea patents out of Europe.  If right-minded people
win, it will help raise the No Software Patents profile.  To this
end, nosoftwarepatents.com have set up a page suggesting how you might
vote:

 http://tinyurl.com/byo7j

You might like to spread the word to other groups too!

All the best
  Bruce
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Re: [SLUG] Finding which device has a particular Mac address

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Rundle

   08:44:49.639692 (NOV-ETHII) .00:00:c9:05:e5:cd.4013 
   .ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.0452:ipx-sap-nearest-req FileServer
 
 It would appear to be a PC with IPX protocol installed. But which one? I 
 need a reverse Arp, but RARP as I understand it is a protocol for giving 
 an IP address to something like a diskless node on boot up. I don't know 
 if it can be used to ask the machine with the given Mac to confess it's IP.

Try arp(1) as a starting point.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] ubuntu shared folders not working

2005-10-17 Thread linley caetan

trying to get file sharing going on Ubuntu Hoary Samba
The gui file sharing manager keeps crashing.
have tried remove reinstall samba with no luck.
Any ideas?

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[SLUG] htaccess control for 200 users ?

2005-10-17 Thread Voytek
I have Apache 1.3x running a number of vhosts, some have some htaccess
control using maybe 10 or 15 unique usernames;

for one vhost, I'm looking at setting a 'closed shop' accessible only to
pre-defined existing customers, like, say, oscommerce behind htaccess
authentication;

is that a 'good idea' to look at htaccess authentication for around 200
unique user/password ? or ?

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Re: [SLUG] Using Debian Alien

2005-10-17 Thread James Gregory
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 07:54 +1000, Richard Hayes wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I found a Mandrake RPM I wanted to use and since it was a new project I 
 downloaded a Mandrake CD 10.1 and installed it on an old box.
 
 So I was have been swimming in RPM Dependancy custard for many hours.

urpmi can probably just solve that problem for you. Might be easier.

 So, rather than fight with Mandrake I throught I would use Debian with Alien.
 
 I used apt-get to install Alien but I could not find any instruction for 
 using 
 Alien

I usually invoke it as 'alien -d -c -k', which will get you a suitable
deb file. It won't help however, since your aliened deb package will be
bereft of the dependency information you'd need to get it to work.

James.


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Re: [SLUG] ISP

2005-10-17 Thread linuser
iinet do ADSL2+ home/SHO connections and they have a 20mb/s connection.

I use TPG ( www.tpg.com.au) with a 1.5Mb/s dowb speed ( had 280KB/s up on lucky
days).

There email spam filtering is the best Ive seen, I have yet to get any spam
accept the stuff I get from slug's email server.

I dont recomend iprimus, even though I was a customer for a long time, mainly
because they seem to be a spam magnet (or there selling your details who can
tell).

Richard Neal

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Quoting Juergen Busam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi!
 
 Can anyone recommend a reliable ISP (with good Overseas connection) with
 at least the possibility to have 3M down and 640 K Up, or even better a
 symmetric connection with 3M down and up?
 
 regards
 
 Juergen
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Re: [SLUG] ISP

2005-10-17 Thread DaZZa
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 iinet do ADSL2+ home/SHO connections and they have a 20mb/s connection.

Only if you're on an iinet DSLAM enabled exchange - which is the same as
internode - if you're lucky enough to be on one of the exchanges, then
you're laughing. And the speed is only 12 meg down, not 20. According to
their webpage, anyway.

iinet have a _lot_ more exchanges in the planning stage that internode do,
though.

DaZZa


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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Open Solaris User Group - Meeting Oct 17th 6:30pm

2005-10-17 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 06:40:58AM +1000, Jamie Honan wrote:
 I have a problem with the original 'kissed a girl' posting.
 
 Superficially it looks amusing. In fact it is an ad hominem
 attack on Dave Miller.

I thought it was hilarious.
It never occurred to me think that it was meant in
a mean way, or that Dave Miller took at as such.

After seeing Bryan's talk last night I'm even
more sure that this was the case!  A great, humourous
presenter who really knows his stuff.

 Rather than reply to Dave's detailed points, he attempts to ridicule
 him.

I saw it as an _acknowledgement_ that Dave had
excellent points by admitting he had no substantive
comeback.

Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1

2005-10-17 Thread James Gray
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 08:47, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=James Gray

  2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache +
  buffer is almost 1GB) with no swap in use.

 So free(1) definitely shows that you have swap available?

Yep - (/dev/sda6) all 4GB of it and 0K in use.

  Anyone else seeing this behaviour??  Should I raise a bug??

 This is a great report, you should definitely file a bug. :-)

Cool.where?  Does Ubuntu/Kubuntu have a Bugzilla site or something?

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Kernel Panic since USN-199-1

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Gray

  This is a great report, you should definitely file a bug. :-)
 
 Cool.where?  Does Ubuntu/Kubuntu have a Bugzilla site or something?

Whoa, dude: bugzilla.ubuntu.com

- Jeff

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