Re: [SLUG] printer drivers

2005-10-29 Thread Richard




I found this thread in a forum

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188250

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 16:36 +1100, Paul Maloney wrote:


Hi all,
I am trying out Ubuntu for the first time and was wondering if anyone
can help me with printer drivers. I am using a Canon i560 printer and so
far I have been unable to install the correct drivers.
Thanking you in advance.
Paul





Regards

Richard Neal

"Obscurity is a far greater threat to authors than copyright infringement, or even outright piracy."
Seen on Slashdot 30-09-2005





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[SLUG] printer drivers

2005-10-29 Thread Paul Maloney
Hi all,
I am trying out Ubuntu for the first time and was wondering if anyone
can help me with printer drivers. I am using a Canon i560 printer and so
far I have been unable to install the correct drivers.
Thanking you in advance.
Paul
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Re: [SLUG] Linux friendly flash mp3 players

2005-10-29 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:23:06AM +1000, David Gillies wrote:
> Does anyone out there have any recommendations for Linux friendly flash
> mp3 players?

This one certainly looks interesting:

  http://www.aldi.com.au/product_03/product_442.html

I don't know how well it works with Linux, but most 'generic' players these 
days support the USB Mass Storage spec.

I think Aldi allow refunds, so I am seriously tempted to purchase one of these 
and test it out.


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Re: [SLUG] returning windows software

2005-10-29 Thread Russell Davie
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:32:27 +1100
Del <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Russell Davie wrote:
> > Ok, So your have convinced me not to be concerned.  In any case I set up an 
> > rsync to another drive.
> > 
> > So far I have communicated with Acer and Micorsoft.
> > 
> > Acer have knocked me back cited the age old "contractual obligations with 
> > MS"
> > So I asked for the mailing address which I got and will put the request in 
> > writing.  Which is yet to be drafted.
> > 
> > I rang MS and asked for a EULA, and I never got a reply.  So I emailed them 
> > and asked for for a copy of the EULA and explained that I thought I would 
> > be implicitly agreeing to if I used the software or opened the shrink 
> > wrapped CDs.  They have written back and said the EULA is displayed on 
> > booting the machine for the first time.  MS said that as the EULA covers IP 
> > from both OEM and MS and I should take my concern to Acer.  
> 
> This is something that Linux Australia should be taking to the ACC, IMO.
> 
> It's been kicked around a bit in OSIA and a few people there have taken
> complaints to the ACC but it wasn't worth our effort, as a relatively
> small organisation that has some ties to vendors, to take it to ACC from
> there.
> 
> LA has a bit more resources and should be able to push it on behalf of
> its members.
> 

ACC? bring it on!

I am planning to put this to a uni law lecturer I know. 
And was going to see what the Dept of Fair Trading can do. 
First I will get a draft happening to send to Acer.

- Russell

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Re: [SLUG] returning windows software

2005-10-29 Thread Del

Russell Davie wrote:

Ok, So your have convinced me not to be concerned.  In any case I set up an 
rsync to another drive.

So far I have communicated with Acer and Micorsoft.

Acer have knocked me back cited the age old "contractual obligations with MS"
So I asked for the mailing address which I got and will put the request in 
writing.  Which is yet to be drafted.

I rang MS and asked for a EULA, and I never got a reply.  So I emailed them and asked for for a copy of the EULA and explained that I thought I would be implicitly agreeing to if I used the software or opened the shrink wrapped CDs.  They have written back and said the EULA is displayed on booting the machine for the first time.  MS said that as the EULA covers IP from both OEM and MS and I should take my concern to Acer.  


This is something that Linux Australia should be taking to the ACC, IMO.

It's been kicked around a bit in OSIA and a few people there have taken
complaints to the ACC but it wasn't worth our effort, as a relatively
small organisation that has some ties to vendors, to take it to ACC from
there.

LA has a bit more resources and should be able to push it on behalf of
its members.

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Re: [SLUG] returning windows software

2005-10-29 Thread Russell Davie
Ok, So your have convinced me not to be concerned.  In any case I set up an 
rsync to another drive.

So far I have communicated with Acer and Micorsoft.

Acer have knocked me back cited the age old "contractual obligations with MS"
So I asked for the mailing address which I got and will put the request in 
writing.  Which is yet to be drafted.

I rang MS and asked for a EULA, and I never got a reply.  So I emailed them and 
asked for for a copy of the EULA and explained that I thought I would be 
implicitly agreeing to if I used the software or opened the shrink wrapped CDs. 
 They have written back and said the EULA is displayed on booting the machine 
for the first time.  MS said that as the EULA covers IP from both OEM and MS 
and I should take my concern to Acer.  

regards

Russell


On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:11:08 +1100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 06:42:07PM +1000, Russell Davie wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:44:49 +1000
> > Michael Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > James Purser wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:28 +, l cheung wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >>Get a life, get a power book. :)
> > > > 
> > > > Yes but can you return OSX?
> > > 
> > > It's a good idea to keep OSX on it as a small partition that can be 
> > > booted by default for the first year.
> > > If you have to return the machine under warranty the techos at Broadway 
> > > (thats where the 
> > > Apple service centre is) will  then be able to boot it and run their 
> > > diagnostics. You'll get
> > > it back with your Linux untouched. Otherwise they will have to do a new 
> > > install and wipe 
> > > your Linux.
> > 
> > o, never thought of that...
> > 
> > good point
> 
> I don't find it a very good point at all...
> 
> Hard drives are completely interchangeable and there is absolutely zero excuse
> for the official hardware service centre not to have a special hard drive that
> they drop into the machine for doing diagnostics. Moreover, they can swap your
> hard drive into a different machine that does a sector read/write scan to
> prove the hard drive is working correctly and they can do that without 
> damaging
> any of your data. They can even boot off a special disgnostic CD or off a USB
> device or off a network device. If Apple don't provide such boostrap options
> to their service centres then Apple clearly show no commitment to their
> customers. If Apple do provide the option and the service centre can't be 
> bothered using it then time to look for a better service centre.
> 
> I can remember boot floppies for 486 machines that provided extensive 
> diagnostics
> in just a 1.4M image (including keyboard test). I first saw one about 10 years
> ago. The quality of computing services available to the consumer has gone
> downhill.
> 
>  --
> 
> I recently had to deal with the official Sony service centre in Lane Cove with
> regards to getting a warranty repair for a Sony Vaio doorstop, which had some
> sort of fault in the keyboard controller. Their first answer to pretty much
> anything that they can't obviously diagnose is "software error, probably a 
> virus or something, warranty does not cover software". I even got the guy to
> shut it down, remove the hard drive and boot it with no hard drive and the
> keyboard problem was obviously still present (because the constantly repeating
> key was causing a steady beeping noise). Then he starts with "maybe you 
> spilled
> something on this" and after that doesn't get a good response he goes back
> to the tried-and-true "must be a software problem, probably a virus".
> 
> The only option he gave was to completely wipe the drive and reinstall from 
> the original CDs before he would even consider taking the machine in for
> repair. I'll also point out that this laptop has only ever run MS-Win-XP and
> the install was already the standard default Sony install with a bunch of
> additional software added afterwards. I tried booting off a Linux CD and found
> that exactly the same keyboard fault manifested in Linux as well so I'm 100%
> sure it is NOT a software problem and sure enough after a reinstall from the
> original Win-XP CDs the fault is exactly the same.
> 
> Basically, the reinstall is just their way of inconveniencing you and giving
> you a few hoops to jump through. It is utterly unnecessary and smacks of
> the unprofessional buffoonery that is typical in the computing industry and
> especially typical of anything sold with a Microsoft operating system.
> 
> I'll also point out that the typical Apple user doesn't no squat about what
> is and is not possible so the probably get fed just the same line of junk
> because they don't know any better.
> 
> Now I have to wait at least a week to get the machine back and then put in
> a good two days work reinstalling all the applications, reconfiguring the
> settings, etc, etc. just because Sony don't see a priority in

Re: [SLUG] SQL ledger - postgresql - TCL/IP

2005-10-29 Thread James Purser
On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 14:01 +1100, Russell Davie wrote:
> Hi
> I am having difficulty in getting postgreasql past the ssl required for tcp/ip
> 
> this is what I'm getting when I manually start postgresql:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/init.d # ./postgresql-7.4 start
>  * Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main  
>The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output:
> /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled 
> for SSL
>   
> [fail]
> 
> adding a new user to postgres doesn't occur as postgres isn't running:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ createuser -d -data
> Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) n
> createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to 
> server: No such file or directory
> Is the server running locally and accepting
> connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
> 
> 
> I've found how to make the rss keys for openssl, but I'm not sure where to 
> put them. ie the data directory mentioned in:
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ssl-tcp.html
> 
> Is this the right step? or is this in the wrong direction? (likely!)
> 
> TIA
> 
> Russell
>   

Postgresql needs to be told explicitly that it has to accept tcp/ip
connections in the start up script, you might want to check if this is
happening, if no tcp/ip then the ssl will fail.
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[SLUG] SQL ledger - postgresql - TCL/IP

2005-10-29 Thread Russell Davie
Hi
I am having difficulty in getting postgreasql past the ssl required for tcp/ip

this is what I'm getting when I manually start postgresql:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/init.d # ./postgresql-7.4 start
 * Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main
 The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output:
/usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled for 
SSL

  [fail]

adding a new user to postgres doesn't occur as postgres isn't running:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ createuser -d -data
Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) n
createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to 
server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?


I've found how to make the rss keys for openssl, but I'm not sure where to put 
them. ie the data directory mentioned in:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ssl-tcp.html

Is this the right step? or is this in the wrong direction? (likely!)

TIA

Russell
  
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Re: [SLUG] Linux friendly flash mp3 players

2005-10-29 Thread telford
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:23:06AM +1000, David Gillies wrote:
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> Does anyone out there have any recommendations for Linux friendly flash
> mp3 players?

I can recommend the omni music-stick which is basically just a USB
pen drive stick with space for a single AAA cell and a headphone socket.
It has a little screen where it tells you the name of the song playing
and it will even scroll the lyrics if you have the right files.

For linux is just looks like a MSDOS partition, you can use the mtools
package to read and write, standard USB mass-storage.

The one thing I will complain about is that my unit wasn't as robust
as I had hoped, a shock or bump can reboot the unit and the headphone
socket isn't a positive lock so you can get some scratch and crackle
from a bad connection if your headphone cord pulls. Also, it does not
have any removable media and has developed a few bad sectors. I'd be
a lot happier with something that uses compact flash or some sort of
removable media. Mind you there have been heaps of reports that Apple
iPods tend to fall apart as soon as you look at them

> And any that have .ogg support would be a major bonus.

ogg support is pretty rare. I'm waiting for the Linux smart phones
to start being available in Australia the I plan to use the phone as an
MP3 player and upload ogg support to the phone if necessary. I'm
carrying too many gadgets around as it is so with a Linux phone I
can roll everything together into a single object -- data storage,
phone, database, organiser, music, communications, etc.

The Motorola A780 looks tempting but I would still expect an expensive
item to have removable flash and as far as I can tell the A780 does not
so backup becomes more tedious and if you get a bad sector the
whole item becomes junk. How hard can it be to design decent gear?

The ideal item for me would be a linux phone with a high quality
stereo headset connection, a black-and-white non-backlit LCD
and a compact flash socket. Using ordinary AAA rechargable cells
would also be an excellent choice. If someone knows a factory in China
then I'll design them the ultimate "volkswagen" phone.

- Tel
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Re: [SLUG] returning windows software

2005-10-29 Thread telford
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 06:42:07PM +1000, Russell Davie wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:44:49 +1000
> Michael Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > James Purser wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:28 +, l cheung wrote:
> > > 
> > >>Get a life, get a power book. :)
> > > 
> > > Yes but can you return OSX?
> > 
> > It's a good idea to keep OSX on it as a small partition that can be booted 
> > by default for the first year.
> > If you have to return the machine under warranty the techos at Broadway 
> > (thats where the 
> > Apple service centre is) will  then be able to boot it and run their 
> > diagnostics. You'll get
> > it back with your Linux untouched. Otherwise they will have to do a new 
> > install and wipe 
> > your Linux.
> 
> o, never thought of that...
> 
> good point

I don't find it a very good point at all...

Hard drives are completely interchangeable and there is absolutely zero excuse
for the official hardware service centre not to have a special hard drive that
they drop into the machine for doing diagnostics. Moreover, they can swap your
hard drive into a different machine that does a sector read/write scan to
prove the hard drive is working correctly and they can do that without damaging
any of your data. They can even boot off a special disgnostic CD or off a USB
device or off a network device. If Apple don't provide such boostrap options
to their service centres then Apple clearly show no commitment to their
customers. If Apple do provide the option and the service centre can't be 
bothered using it then time to look for a better service centre.

I can remember boot floppies for 486 machines that provided extensive 
diagnostics
in just a 1.4M image (including keyboard test). I first saw one about 10 years
ago. The quality of computing services available to the consumer has gone
downhill.

 --

I recently had to deal with the official Sony service centre in Lane Cove with
regards to getting a warranty repair for a Sony Vaio doorstop, which had some
sort of fault in the keyboard controller. Their first answer to pretty much
anything that they can't obviously diagnose is "software error, probably a 
virus or something, warranty does not cover software". I even got the guy to
shut it down, remove the hard drive and boot it with no hard drive and the
keyboard problem was obviously still present (because the constantly repeating
key was causing a steady beeping noise). Then he starts with "maybe you spilled
something on this" and after that doesn't get a good response he goes back
to the tried-and-true "must be a software problem, probably a virus".

The only option he gave was to completely wipe the drive and reinstall from 
the original CDs before he would even consider taking the machine in for
repair. I'll also point out that this laptop has only ever run MS-Win-XP and
the install was already the standard default Sony install with a bunch of
additional software added afterwards. I tried booting off a Linux CD and found
that exactly the same keyboard fault manifested in Linux as well so I'm 100%
sure it is NOT a software problem and sure enough after a reinstall from the
original Win-XP CDs the fault is exactly the same.

Basically, the reinstall is just their way of inconveniencing you and giving
you a few hoops to jump through. It is utterly unnecessary and smacks of
the unprofessional buffoonery that is typical in the computing industry and
especially typical of anything sold with a Microsoft operating system.

I'll also point out that the typical Apple user doesn't no squat about what
is and is not possible so the probably get fed just the same line of junk
because they don't know any better.

Now I have to wait at least a week to get the machine back and then put in
a good two days work reinstalling all the applications, reconfiguring the
settings, etc, etc. just because Sony don't see a priority in providing
diagnostic tools for their equipment.

Sony do sell some decent equipment now and then but their attitude to the
consumer is, "You pay money now and then #uc% off".

 --

Frankly, I would be very very happy to find a manufacturer selling laptops
WITHOUT any hard drives at all who would take the laptop back for warranty
repair WITHOUT any hard drive and actually do their job and repair the
hardware or give you a replacement machine. I would know I'm not paying any
software tax and I could get a decent machine that does what should do.

- Tel



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Re: [SLUG] USB Audio Input Devices

2005-10-29 Thread Terry Collins
James Purser wrote:
> I'm looking at getting a usb audio device to allow for multiple inputs
> (more than one microphone, etc etc). Anybody have any suggestions?

2c on alternate technology.

Is there any reason you want this on the computer?
(Recording each stream seperately for re-mixing later, perhaps)

Jaycar, Dickless Smith, Tandy, etc all sell mono or stereo mini mixers
of varying sizes. Known, reliable technology.

And if you don't like the cable monster from multple mics/inputs, look
at FM back to a TV/FM capture card.


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Re: [SLUG] Purging YUM repositories

2005-10-29 Thread Howard Lowndes
Just in case anyone is interested, this is what I came up with (watch 
those line wraps), and it floats my boat:


#!/bin/sh

LOG="yum_purge.log"

echo "Purge of YUM repository - $(date)" >$LOG

for j in $(for i in *rpm ; do rpm -qp --qf="%{NAME}\n" $i ; done | sort 
| uniq) ; do


echo "" >>$LOG
for k in i386 i586 i686 noarch ; do

echo -n -e "For \"$j\" and  \"$k\" we found:\t" >>$LOG
LS=$(ls -1rt ${j}-[0-9]*.${k}.rpm 2>/dev/null)
RES=$?
[[ $RES -ne 0 ]] && {
echo -e "nothing" >>$LOG
} || {
echo "" >>$LOG
echo -e "$LS" >>$LOG
for l in $(ls -rt ${j}-[0-9]*.${k}.rpm 
2>/dev/null | head --lines=-1) ; do


echo -e "Deleting:\t${l}" >>$LOG
rm -f $l

done

[[ ! $l ]] && echo -e "Deleting:\tnothing" >>$LOG
}

done
done


Howard Lowndes wrote:
Because I have a large number of boxen to support behind a firewall, I 
find it preferable to maintain my own yum repository behind the firewall 
and do a wget from the Internet master repo to the local repo then run 
local updates from the local repo, hence saving bandwidth.


Now this all works fine and if wget finds an update out there that it 
doesn't have then it downloads it, but if it already has it (I assume 
HTTP date changed logic is happening here) then  it goes onto the next 
file.


My problem is that my local repo is full of old updates that I would 
like to cull, but the naming conventions on the various files do not 
appear to be consistent, thus making auto cull difficult, eg>


this-file-1.2.9.i386.rpm is obvious to the human eye earlier than 
this-file-1.2.10.i386.rpm as well as having a later create date, but, 
sortwise, it orders differently (yes, I know that sort has the -n option 
but the variance is not always numeric).


The added problem is that the change detail in the file name is not in a 
consistent position either, so trying awk or cut or anything else 
doesn't get the right detail.


Has anyone resolved this problem on their own networks?



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Re: [SLUG] X server problem, It won't start

2005-10-29 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:36:03 +1000, Adam Dawes uttered
> [most the output snipped]
> "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o"
> 
> _norm.o
> 
> _xform.o
> 
> NV: No matching device section for instance (Bus ID PCI:2.0.0)
>
There is your problem. When your changed your motherboard, the bus ID
of the video card changed from 2.0.0 to something else. I would start
by running 'lspci' as root and noting down what the first colum is
where the line contains 'Nvidia', such as this from my machine:

:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 
5600] (rev a1)

In this case, the relevant bus ID is 1.5.0. Or even easier, if you
only have one video card in the machine, I would just remove the BusID
line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and see if that helps you.

Cheers,
-- 
Steve
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 as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead
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