Re: [SLUG] PC-BSD vs Desktop-BSD

2005-12-02 Thread Richard
I just listened to a interview on the Linux Link Tech show with
Kristofer Moore - Founder of the PC-BSD project, from what Im hearing
PC-BSD is anything other than a minor hack of FreeBSD.

You can listen to the interview via this podcast

http://www.thelinuxlink.net/tllts/tllts.rss

He gives a very good rundown of what PC-BSD is and what it offers.

PS its show # 112


On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 18:08 +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
> looking at pc-bsd its just a nicely wrapped freebsd

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Re: [SLUG] PC-BSD vs Desktop-BSD

2005-12-02 Thread Dean Hamstead

looking at pc-bsd its just a nicely wrapped freebsd

being a very very very big fan of freebsd, its linux emulation
is excellent and i highly recommend it.

i prefer a lot of things about bsd (most are very much
personal preference things. ie i prefer the bsd boot method)
and there are a few things that i prefer in linux - well just
debian actually.

if you are confident with linux cli you should have no
problems with the BSD's. they are very well documented and
well organised with great user lists etc.

i recommend that anyone wanting to get really good with unix
(aka linux), take the plunge and familiarise themselves with
bsd's thus making yourself less distribution dependant and
a more usefull member of society ;)

Dean


Domingo Llavero wrote:

Hi All,

I am curious to see if anyone has tested either PC-BSD or Desktop-BSD.  I was 
looking for feedback using either of the distros, esp with compatibility with 
Linux apps.


I understand that both of the distros are targetted towards the end user with 
easy to use graphical installers.


I know that there are differences between the two, but I was looking for first 
hand feedback (in general too).


Thanks,
Dom


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Re: [SLUG] Linux music appliances?

2005-12-02 Thread David Kempe

Luke Kendall wrote:

Surely someone is putting together a small noiseless PC loaded up with
software to make a music appliance?  Surely?  I could build one myself
given time, but I'd rather take the quick way out if there was one.


does a bit more than what you asked, but its probably as close as you 
will get.

http://www.hmc.com.au/hmc/welcome.php
the d1 guys run mythtv on their linux stuff - not sure what distro

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[SLUG] Linux music appliances?

2005-12-02 Thread Luke Kendall
This is probably a dumb question ...
I'm looking for a small, quiet, Linux-based music appliance.
The ideal would be a small fanless PC with CD drive and hard drive,
little 2-line LCD screen and remote, with stereo audio outputs
to load CDs in that then get converted into MP3s on an internal hard
drive.  So you have all your music in a handy system you can connect to
your stereo system.

The MP3beamer sounded interesting but no contact info, a dead and
archived support forum at Linspire, make me think it's dead.  Searches
on http://linuxdevices.com/ seem to keep turning up dead/defunct
business and old products.  (Or things like the perfect PhatBox, which
is designed as a car stereo and mainly onsold via Volvo, BMW, etc.)

The only other things I've found are expensive high-end systems like the
Sonos (above $1000 US).

Surely someone is putting together a small noiseless PC loaded up with
software to make a music appliance?  Surely?  I could build one myself
given time, but I'd rather take the quick way out if there was one.

luke

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[SLUG] PC-BSD vs Desktop-BSD

2005-12-02 Thread Domingo Llavero
Hi All,

I am curious to see if anyone has tested either PC-BSD or Desktop-BSD.  I was 
looking for feedback using either of the distros, esp with compatibility with 
Linux apps.

I understand that both of the distros are targetted towards the end user with 
easy to use graphical installers.

I know that there are differences between the two, but I was looking for first 
hand feedback (in general too).

Thanks,
Dom
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[SLUG] Re: Ethereal filter form

2005-12-02 Thread Ben Buxton
Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> 
> Can someone tell me the correct form for capture and display filters for
> ethereal for a host = 192.168.0.1
> 
> ip.addr == 192.168.0.1 was what I thought the capture one was, but now
> it squarks.

Capture uses tcpdump syntax. 

host 192.168.0.1

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[SLUG] Ethereal filter form

2005-12-02 Thread Terry Collins

Can someone tell me the correct form for capture and display filters for
ethereal for a host = 192.168.0.1

ip.addr == 192.168.0.1 was what I thought the capture one was, but now
it squarks.

TIA

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Re: [SLUG] man pages without the colour

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 10:13:03PM +1100, Daniel Bush wrote:
> Thanks Ken.
> I forgot about directly piping it like that.
> But I still got the colour in less.  I was stumped for a while before trying
> my famous sed mangling-script again:
> man xyz | sed -e 's/.^H//g' | less
> and lo! crisp white manpages did materialise before me!
> Ugly hack though.

I think the standard thing to use is

col -b

It has roughly the same effect as that sed.

Matt


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[SLUG] metacity cfg

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Miller
Can someone tell me how to configure metecity win mgr to actually open
the windows, rather than just gently pulse the docked window title?
(e.g. gaim's "raise on chat event" setting doesn't actually raise the
window)

If you haven't guessed, it's a new Ubuntu install.

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[SLUG] metacity cfg

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Miller
Can some kind person please tell me how to configure metacity to allow
applications to un-iconify their windows on events - e.g. gaim
and to open new windows - e.g. firefox.
At the moment, all it does is gently pulse the title in the application
docking bar thingy, which I completely fail to notice.

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[SLUG] metacity cfg

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Miller
Can some kind person please tell me how to get metacity window manager
to stop suppressing window raise events.
I would like to have things like gaim and firefox be alble to open and
raise windows without the cute pulsing icon thing happening.
I never notice.

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Re: [SLUG] man pages without the colour

2005-12-02 Thread Daniel Bush
On 12/2/05, Ken Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:14 +1100, Daniel Bush wrote:> (I'm aware of nroff and groff and /etc/manpath.config; even tried to> mangle their output using sed)try man xyz | lessman is context aware and if it not a console (ie pipe) it possibly will
not highlight.Thanks Ken.I forgot about directly piping it like that.But I still got the colour in less.  I was stumped for a while before trying my famous sed mangling-script again:
    man xyz | sed -e 's/.^H//g' | lessand lo! crisp white manpages did materialise before me!Ugly hack though.(The ^H may or may not have something to do with the -c flag for nroff)Daniel.
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[SLUG] man pages without the colour

2005-12-02 Thread Daniel Bush
Hi Folks,Does anyone have a way of turning off the wretched colouring used by the manpage system (specifically on debian) ?It conflicts with the colour backgrounds I'm using so, ironically, all the bits it is highlighting like titles are virtually unreadable -  it's like they assume everyone uses a white terminal or something.
Colour in manpages is one bit of "progress" I can do without.(I'm aware of nroff and groff and /etc/manpath.config; even tried to mangle their output using sed)Thanks,Daniel
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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu + packages

2005-12-02 Thread Ken Foskey
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 19:55 +1100, James Purser wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:00 +1100, Yosep Widjaja Kasim wrote:
> > 
> > I am just wondering about latest ubuntu that ship with 14 CDs like debian
> > 

> Ubuntu comes on one cd and can be downloaded from here
> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/


This may need a little more.  Ubuntu, and debian for that matter, have
worked out the most common things that go onto a system and placed that
on one CD.  Once you have installed the CD you can add to you setup
easily to include any of the other programs you need using the Internet.

You can review the tools available to you using a graphical interface
called synaptic (system->administration->synaptic).  There are a huge
number of tools available but the likely hood of you using them is not
that high.

Thanks
Ken Foskey
FOSS developer

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu + packages

2005-12-02 Thread James Purser
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:00 +1100, Yosep Widjaja Kasim wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I am trying to use ubuntu now since there is much nice review about them :)
> 
> I am just wondering about latest ubuntu that ship with 14 CDs like debian
> 
> where can i download them?
> 
> many thanks in advance

Ubuntu comes on one cd and can be downloaded from here
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
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[SLUG] ubuntu + packages

2005-12-02 Thread Yosep Widjaja Kasim

Hi all

I am trying to use ubuntu now since there is much nice review about them :)

I am just wondering about latest ubuntu that ship with 14 CDs like debian

where can i download them?

many thanks in advance
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Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: [dunlug] Open source beer recipe!]

2005-12-02 Thread Richard




cant find the source code so I can compile my own keg.

make beer
make: *** No rule to make target `beer'.  Stop.

On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 18:32 +1100, Karin Purser wrote:


"What's this "Vores Øl"?

 Vores Øl (Our Beer) is a great tasting energetic beer and it's the 
world's first open source beer! It is based on classic ale brewing 
traditions but with added guarana for a natural energy-boost. Version 
1.0 is a medium strong beer (6% vol) with a deep golden red color and an 
original but familiar taste
We think that our open source beer is a nice twist on this quote, and we 
think it is interesting to see if our beer grows stronger, out in the 
free, and perhaps one day becomes the Linux of beers.
Who knows?" http://www.voresoel.dk/main.php?id=70
Kathinka.







Regards

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