Re: [SLUG] SLUG special dinner on Wednesday (29th)

2006-03-27 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Monday 27 March 2006 16:47, Scott Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
  On Sunday 26 March 2006 13:03, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  everyone invited to a special FOSS community dinner/drinks next
  Wednesday evening from about 6pm at the James Squire Brewhouse in
  Darling Harbour.
 
  Is that Wednesday 29 March or 5 April? Just trying to clarify.

 Subject: Re: [SLUG] SLUG special dinner on Wednesday (29th)

 ;)

/me slaps forehead in realisation of own stupidity

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RE: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Roger Barnes
 How do people listen to Podcasts from the ABC?
 
 Sadly, as is usual for IT in the ABC, their help pages don't 
 help (just another example of why RTFM is not a solution).

I found this help link by accident (for radio national), it seems to be much 
better than the one I assume you are referring to as inadequate.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/help.htm

The method for listening appears to be the same as for podcasts from anywhere 
else, but specifically, I've been using a cron job to run bashpodder, a neat 
little script for downloading podcasts.

HTH,
- Rog
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Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Russell Davie
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:15:23 +1100
Roger Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How do people listen to Podcasts from the ABC?
  
  Sadly, as is usual for IT in the ABC, their help pages don't 
  help (just another example of why RTFM is not a solution).
 
 I found this help link by accident (for radio national), it seems to be much 
 better than the one I assume you are referring to as inadequate.
 http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/help.htm
 
 The method for listening appears to be the same as for podcasts from anywhere 
 else, but specifically, I've been using a cron job to run bashpodder, a neat 
 little script for downloading podcasts.
 

Unfortunately, if bashpodderis run again the next day, it will dl the same mp3 
and store them in a different directory.  

Try ipodder, it wil only dl what is new in the server and not redo already 
completed dls.

- Russell



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Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Chris Deigan
Terry Collins.quote;
How do people listen to Podcasts from the ABC?

Using my ears.

Sadly, as is usual for IT in the ABC, their help pages don't help (just
another example of why RTFM is not a solution).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Podcatchers

Pick a podcatcher and give it the URL to the RSS feed for the do-dad you
want to listen/subscribe to.


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Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Terry Collins
Roger Barnes wrote:


 I found this help link by accident (for radio national), it seems to be much 
 better than the one I assume you are referring to as inadequate.
 http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/help.htm

That is the one. there is a slight difference between reality and their
help page
 
 The method for listening appears to be the same as for podcasts from anywhere 
 else, but specifically, I've been using a cron job to run bashpodder, a neat 
 little script for downloading podcasts.

Good info, I'll try it.
An Automated solution is what I wanted.


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Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Russell Davie
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:08:09 +1000
Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Roger Barnes wrote:
 
 
  I found this help link by accident (for radio national), it seems to be 
  much better than the one I assume you are referring to as inadequate.
  http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/help.htm
 
 That is the one. there is a slight difference between reality and their
 help page
  
  The method for listening appears to be the same as for podcasts from 
  anywhere else, but specifically, I've been using a cron job to run 
  bashpodder, a neat little script for downloading podcasts.
 
 Good info, I'll try it.
 An Automated solution is what I wanted.
 

ipodder has intelligent options like only dl if nominated disk space is 
available.  Thus preventing dls completely filling up the disk, which occured 
when I used bashpodder. 

Itpodder has an internal scheduler whereas bashpodder needs crontab.

Ipodder can shrink to a taskbar icon or desktop icon,at least it does in 
windowmaker. 

The down side is  ipodder uses python and thus requires much more memory and 
processor grunt.  It went like cold molasses on a p266 laptop, where it simply 
flies on AMD 1.8mhz.

ipodder needs the gui, where as bashpodder can be run form command line.

hth 

Russell 




 
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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Phill O'Flynn
Yes in part. I use samba to read/write whereas a co-worker uses winscp
from a remote location.RegardsPhill Original Message
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file
permissions]From:Matthew Hannigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date:Mon, March 27, 2006 3:24 pmTo: 
Phill O'Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
slug@slug.org.au--On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 03:00:23PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote: Basically, all i am trying to do is to set the file permissions of
any new file/sub directory directory created in a shared
directory so that theWait a minute.  By shared do you mean
shared with samba?If so, yes, you can force certain permissions.Look at 'force create mode' and 'force directory mode'	http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html#fdpbcMatt-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group
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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, David Ward wrote:
Hi all,

   I hope to get to a SLUG meeting sometime soon.

I am looking for a new mp3/ogg player and was wondering what everyone is 
using.

My 2 key points are:

  1. Ogg playback without too much messing around, that is, no need
 to re-sample to 44100hz or change to a specific bit-rate just to
 get the track to play on the device.
  2. Plug and play in Linux.  Thus needs to comply to the USB mass
 storage standard.


Battery life is important 2, but meeting the first 2 points are my main 
concern. 

Looking for around the 512mb+ mark.

Anything by Cowon or iRiver will just work.

I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, MP3.
USB 2.0 as a usb mass storage guy.  There's a few ugly features about it but
it's pretty robust and plays music :)

My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and also
acts as a USB 2.0 host so you could plug in other devices and copy data to
it (i.e. photos)

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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread CaT
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:19:03PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, MP3.
 USB 2.0 as a usb mass storage guy.  There's a few ugly features about it but
 it's pretty robust and plays music :)
 
 My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and also
 acts as a USB 2.0 host so you could plug in other devices and copy data to
 it (i.e. photos)

What are the physical interfaces on those like?

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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, CaT wrote:
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:19:03PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, MP3.
 USB 2.0 as a usb mass storage guy.  There's a few ugly features about it but
 it's pretty robust and plays music :)
 
 My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and also
 acts as a USB 2.0 host so you could plug in other devices and copy data to
 it (i.e. photos)

What are the physical interfaces on those like?

The H340 has a regular small USB socket on it, and the iAudio has either a
dongle guy or a cradle, both with a small USB socket.  They come with small
to regular USB cables too!
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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread CaT
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:25:45PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, CaT wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:19:03PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
  I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, MP3.
  
  My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and also
 
 What are the physical interfaces on those like?
 
 The H340 has a regular small USB socket on it, and the iAudio has either a
 dongle guy or a cradle, both with a small USB socket.  They come with small
 to regular USB cables too!

Yeah but how do they handle going through masses of mp3s? How responsive
are they? etc...? :)

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Re: [SLUG] Virtual machine recommendations?

2006-03-27 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi Matt,

I run qemu on my FC3 (Win98 still useful for somethings :))

Can you give me a quick direction as to where to go find info on using 
qemu to make an image for vmplayer?


I'd be very interested in giving it a bash.

Thanks,

Patrick



Matthew Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:25:05 +1000


You can also use qemu to make images for vmplayer.

FWIW, the killer feature for some in vm-workstation is the clone/snapshot
functionality. Of course there's the polish and support that
comes with a commercial product.

But other than that I'd go for qemu.


Matt



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Re: [SLUG] Virtual machine recommendations?

2006-03-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=elliott-brennan

 Can you give me a quick direction as to where to go find info on using
 qemu to make an image for vmplayer?

Have a look at the qemu-img tool, shipped with qemu.

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[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Phill O'Flynn


Matt
I don't get it. One web site puts it like this 
 
    The umask command is used to set and determine the
default file creation permissions   on the system

which is what i want but it doesn't seem to happen. Have i
misinterpreted something

Then it wouldn't matter if i use samba
or linux locally or remotely

Phill
 Original Message

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file
permissions]
From:Matthew Hannigan
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Date:Mon, March 27, 2006 3:24 pm
To: 
Phill O'Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
slug@slug.org.au
--

On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 03:00:23PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 Basically, all i am trying to do is to set the file permissions of
any new
 file/sub directory directory created in a shared
directory so that the

Wait a minute.  By shared do you mean
shared with samba?
If so, yes, you can force certain permissions.
Look at 'force create mode' and 'force directory mode'


http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html#fdpbc


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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread Martin
$quoted_author = CaT ;
 On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:25:45PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
  This one time, at band camp, CaT wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:19:03PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
   I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, MP3.
   
   My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and 
   also
  
  What are the physical interfaces on those like?
  
  The H340 has a regular small USB socket on it, and the iAudio has either a
  dongle guy or a cradle, both with a small USB socket.  They come with small
  to regular USB cables too!
 
 Yeah but how do they handle going through masses of mp3s? How responsive
 are they? etc...? :)

that would the user interface (UI) rather than psychical interface. :)

i played with a couple of these not-ipods at a JB hifi a while back and
just couldn't fathom ever getting used to their UIs. anything changed?

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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread CaT
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:41:44PM +1000, Martin wrote:
 $quoted_author = CaT ;
  On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:25:45PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
   This one time, at band camp, CaT wrote:
   On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:19:03PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, 
MP3.

My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and 
also
   
   What are the physical interfaces on those like?
   
   The H340 has a regular small USB socket on it, and the iAudio has 
   either a
   dongle guy or a cradle, both with a small USB socket.  They come with 
   small
   to regular USB cables too!
  
  Yeah but how do they handle going through masses of mp3s? How responsive
  are they? etc...? :)
 
 that would the user interface (UI) rather than psychical interface. :)

Yes and no. :) Bit of both in this case. The physical interface has a
major bearing on how the software user interface works.

 i played with a couple of these not-ipods at a JB hifi a while back and
 just couldn't fathom ever getting used to their UIs. anything changed?

I have to say I like the ipod physical interface. The software shits me
though. There may be help there though. :)

http://www.rockbox.org/

Now if this matures and if only the ipod had an inbuilt radio...

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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread Martin
$quoted_author = CaT ;
 
 I have to say I like the ipod physical interface. The software shits me
 though. There may be help there though. :)
 
 http://www.rockbox.org/
 
 Now if this matures and if only the ipod had an inbuilt radio...

the ipod in my eyes...

Q1) Ogg support?  X

Next!

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread CaT
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:12:11PM +1000, Martin wrote:
 $quoted_author = CaT ;
  
  I have to say I like the ipod physical interface. The software shits me
  though. There may be help there though. :)
  
  http://www.rockbox.org/
  
  Now if this matures and if only the ipod had an inbuilt radio...
 
 the ipod in my eyes...
 
 Q1) Ogg support?  X
 
 Next!

?

According to this rockbox makes the ipod useful:

'Rockbox for the iPod 4G, Color, Nano and Video models all have a wide
range of codec support - MP3, OGG, FLAC, AAC, ALAC, AC3 and WavPack are
all supported in Rockbox.'
- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox


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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread Martin
$quoted_author = CaT ;
 
 ?
 
 According to this rockbox makes the ipod useful:
 
 'Rockbox for the iPod 4G, Color, Nano and Video models all have a wide
 range of codec support - MP3, OGG, FLAC, AAC, ALAC, AC3 and WavPack are
 all supported in Rockbox.'
   - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox

h...

anyone here playing with it? how ready for prime time is this?

contemplates a visit to ebay to grab an ole ipod to experiment with

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Upgrade Blues FC4 to FC5 using Yum

2006-03-27 Thread Beav Petrie
Howard wrote:

How are you trying to do the upgrade.

Using YUM.

If you are using the install CD or the rescue CD
then I have had no problems, even with a Xen host,
though the Xen guests are proving problematic.

Sorry, I don't have CD yet. We'll get some at LinuxWorld.

What does

rpm -qa | grep hotplug
tell you?

hotplug-2004_09_23-7


We got it going from:

http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Upgrading_Red_Hat_Linux_with_yum.html

but not straight forward. Upgrade still going but no more errors.

Thanks, Howard and those who helped offline if you're reading this.


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RE: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Peter Miller
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 19:15 +1100, Roger Barnes wrote:
  How do people listen to Podcasts from the ABC?

Unfortunately, the Sage plugin for Firefox does not work with the ABC
pod feeds.  The XML fetches and looks perfectly OK, but Sage refuses to
use it. 

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Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 07:36:33PM +1100, Russell Davie wrote:
 Unfortunately, if bashpodderis run again the next day, it will dl the
 same mp3 and store them in a different directory.  

I've written a (fairly dodgy) perl script podcast fetcher, that hopefully
doesn't have this problem:

http://leapster.org/software/podsnort/

It's currently working for my needs, but I do intend to improve it a
bit...

Cheers,

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[SLUG] May tinh man hinh LCD phuc vu Gia Dinh - Van Phong

2006-03-27 Thread hongquang.com.vn




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[SLUG] Tavsiyeniz Var !

2006-03-27 Thread murat
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Tavsiye Edilen Ürün : Yuvarlak Minder

Tavsiye Edilen Ürünümüzü görmek/incelemek için tıklayınız.

İyi günler dileriz.

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Re: [SLUG] Virtual machine recommendations?

2006-03-27 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:35:28PM +1000, elliott-brennan wrote:
 Hi Matt,
 
 I run qemu on my FC3 (Win98 still useful for somethings :))
 
 Can you give me a quick direction as to where to go find info on using 
 qemu to make an image for vmplayer?

Er, I would just google for it; if you don't find it then
ask me again, I may have bookmarked it somewhere.

Didn't someone else post a link?

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful right now!
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[SLUG] Re: [Linux-aus] ACS FOSS SIG

2006-03-27 Thread Matthew Hannigan


OK, we have WWF sorted, now we have to deal with 

ACS
FOSS
SIG
CMS

(yes, Bruce, I know what they mean but I think
it's worth expanding them -- none of them were!)

And which CMS is it?

Matt



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Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:39:14PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:
 
 
 Matt
 I don't get it. One web site puts it like this 
  
     The umask command is used to set and determine the
 default file creation permissions   on the system
 
 which is what i want but it doesn't seem to happen. Have i
 misinterpreted something

'... used to set ... is flat out wrong, so no,
no misinterpretation.

It is indirectly one of the things that determines
permissions at creation time, but it has no effect
on existing files/dirs.

For samba use, use the options mentioned earlier.
For scp2/sftp, I doesn't like you can change the
umask; so the so the server setting (sshd) takes
effect I guess.

There's a discussion of umask setting here
(and why scp2 doesn't do it)
http://www.snailbook.com/faq/sftp-corruption.auto.html

Matt

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Re: [LINK] Re: [SLUG] Re: Heads Up - troubles with time zones

2006-03-27 Thread Adam Todd


This is all OLD news (after i spent LAST night fixing it and advising EBAY 
they had their wrong time for Australia too - which they haven't fixed yet 
and no doubt people are missing out on bidding!)


 http://wpram.com/log/2006/03/04/commonwealth-games-daylight-saving/


Solves all your problems on ALL platforms with simple methods.

Enjoy.


JAN, as to the Set top box thing - I posted a message about time on set to 
boxes to this list some time ago relating to my experience.  I'm so 
FRUSTRATED because some networks broadcast UTC, others local time and 
others non daylight saving time.  Good luck :)


At 11:02 AM 26/03/2006, Howard Lowndes wrote:

FYI, I have submitted a bug report to the Fedora project

Howard Lowndes wrote:


Craig Sanders wrote:


On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 08:58:32AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:


Craig Sanders wrote:


On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 08:26:22AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:



This gets weirder.

My original comments were made against my production systems which 
are running Fedora Core 4.  My test environment running Fedora Core 5 
gets it right.



there's something wrong with your FC4 systems, then.



OK, smarty, so where is FC 4 getting its data from if not from the




hey, you were the one who said it was weird instead of just accepting the
obvious.


tzdata files, and I have demonstrated that they are correct...it knew 
to change the clock, but how...?




no idea. something weird you've done to the config, perhaps? or, more
likely, something weird in FC4 which has been fixed in FC5.

some things to check:

1. your TZ environment variable. if it's set, try clearing it (with
unset, not by making it equal to  which would be equivalent to setting
it to UTC). if it's set to something incorrect, then set it to the
right timezone name.


...not set



2. is /etc/localtime pointing to the right timezone file? e.g. on my
system, it is a symlink to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne


...now you're cooking...well done...it's a file (and an old one), not a
symlink.  That's probably a hangover from when it was running FC3 or
even FC2 - no, I'm wrong there - it appears to be a generic fault with 
Fedora Core, and is still perpetuated in FC5 - the /etc/localtime file is 
a copy from the original in /usr/share/zoneinfo instead of being a link, 
hard or soft.

# ll /etc/localtime
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 785 Dec 12  2004 /etc/localtime



3. reformat and install debian.  you know you want to :-)

...I'm forget you made that threat :)



craig


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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg players recommended

2006-03-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, CaT wrote:
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:25:45PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, CaT wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:19:03PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
  I've got a Cowon iAudio m3: 40GB disk, plays Ogg Vorbis, AAC, FLAC, MP3.
  
  My boss had an iRiver H340, again a 40GB disk, does all the above and also
 
 What are the physical interfaces on those like?
 
 The H340 has a regular small USB socket on it, and the iAudio has either a
 dongle guy or a cradle, both with a small USB socket.  They come with small
 to regular USB cables too!

Yeah but how do they handle going through masses of mp3s? How responsive
are they? etc...? :)

Oh, *that* interface :)

The iAudio has an external control unit which means there's an extra wire
and plug you can break, but means you can attach it to your shirt or bag
nearby and hide the disk in a pocket.  The controls take a bit of getting
used to, but nowadays I leave it on random and the only thing I need to do
is change volume or skip or replay a track, all of which are a simple button
press, and it's easy to do it without looking.

Everything else in the firmware sucks; no rating system, playlists are
difficult to manage, finding a specific track to play is near impossible
unless you group your tracks sensibly and use no filename longer than 10
characters (othrewise you are lagged by scroll delay to read the entire
filename) and though I suspect that the unit writes last played
data to the tracks themselves, no software I've found incorporates that
information into its own databse to do favourites analysis.

The iRiver H340 has its controls on the disk unit, and I haven't used it
much so I can't comment on usability.
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[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Phill O'Flynn


Hi Matt

I am aware that existing files are not affected.

One thing I found in my playing around that if i set the umask in
a console window any files or dirs created after (in that window) have the
permissions i expect. However if i open up an instance of nautilus to
create new files and dirs,  the file permissions are set differently
is this normal

Phill


 Original Message
 
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file
permissions]] 
From: Matthew Hannigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Tue, March 28, 2006 9:53 am 
To:
Phill O'Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc:
slug@slug.org.au 
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:39:14PM +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:

 
 
 Matt 
 I don't get it. One web
site puts it like this 
   
    
The umask command is used to set and determine the 
 default file
creation permissions   on the system 
 

which is what i want but it doesn't seem to happen. Have i 

misinterpreted something 

'... used to set ... is flat
out wrong, so no, 
no misinterpretation. 

It is indirectly
one of the things that determines 
permissions at creation time, but
it has no effect 
on existing files/dirs. 

For samba use,
use the options mentioned earlier. 
For scp2/sftp, I doesn't like you
can change the 
umask; so the so the server setting (sshd) takes 
effect I guess. 

There's a discussion of umask setting here

(and why scp2 doesn't do it) 
http://www.snailbook.com/faq/sftp-corruption.auto.html 

Matt


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RE: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC

2006-03-27 Thread Roger Barnes
 On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 07:36:33PM +1100, Russell Davie wrote:
  Unfortunately, if bashpodderis run again the next day, it 
 will dl the 
  same mp3 and store them in a different directory.
 
 I've written a (fairly dodgy) perl script podcast fetcher, 
 that hopefully doesn't have this problem:

My version of bashpodder doesn't have this feature, it only downloads what it 
doesn't have already.  There are also some user hacks from the source site to 
make it do all kinds of other tricks.  It's certainly not intended as a general 
end-user type of utility.

Cheers,
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:51:58 +1100 (EST), Phill O'Flynn uttered
 I am aware that existing files are not affected.
 
 One thing I found in my playing around that if i set the umask in
 a console window any files or dirs created after (in that window) have the
 permissions i expect. However if i open up an instance of nautilus to
 create new files and dirs,  the file permissions are set differently
 is this normal
 
Yes, this is intended behaviour - the umask() syscall, the heart of
the umask command only operates per process. So, your shell in your
terminal has changed umask, but Nautilus, being a separate process,
has it's own umask, which is unchanged.

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[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Phill O'Flynn



Thanks guys, 

I guess there is no real way to set default
permissions in a shared folder for new folders and files (apart from using
samba as matt suggested). Is that right?

Phill


 Original Message

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file
permissions]]
From:Steve Kowalik
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Date:Tue, March 28, 2006 11:37
am
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:51:58 +1100 (EST), Phill O'Flynn uttered
 I am aware that existing files are not affected.
 
 One thing I found in my playing around that if i set the umask
in
 a console window any files or dirs created after (in that
window) have the
 permissions i expect. However if i open up an
instance of nautilus to
 create new files and dirs,  the file
permissions are set differently
 is this normal
 
Yes, this is intended behaviour - the umask() syscall, the heart of
the umask command only operates per process. So, your shell in your
terminal has changed umask, but Nautilus, being a separate process,
has it's own umask, which is unchanged.

Cheers,
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] file permissions]]

2006-03-27 Thread Benno
On Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 13:14:06 +1100, Phill O'Flynn wrote:



Thanks guys, 

I guess there is no real way to set default
permissions in a shared folder for new folders and files (apart from using
samba as matt suggested). Is that right?


There is also POSIX ACLs, which are kind of cool. Google can probably
give you better info on it than I can though :)

Benno
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[SLUG] updates for RHEL3 ?

2006-03-27 Thread Voytek Eymont
what are my options for up-to-dating RHEL3 ?

I have a CD set of RHEL3, which obviously is quite old and out of date;
I've just installed it on a 'test system' and would like if possible to
apply updates/fixes etc, but, don't want to spend too much if that is
possible.





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[SLUG] kernel versions 2.6/Asterisk Q

2006-03-27 Thread Voytek Eymont
as far as I recall, Asterisk docs state that a kernel 2.6 is needed for
Asterisk, I've just installed RHEL3 thinking that will be adequate for
Asterisk, but it seems RHEL3 is kernel 2.4x;

do I need a kernel update, or what do I need to get a kernel 2.6 ?

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Re: [SLUG] updates for RHEL3 ?

2006-03-27 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 03:24:17PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
 what are my options for up-to-dating RHEL3 ?

Buy a contract with Red Hat

 I have a CD set of RHEL3, which obviously is quite old and out of date;
 I've just installed it on a 'test system' and would like if possible to
 apply updates/fixes etc, but, don't want to spend too much if that is
 possible.

If you want something very much like RHEL3, try Centos.

Matt

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Re: [SLUG] updates for RHEL3 ?

2006-03-27 Thread David Gillies
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Voytek Eymont wrote:
 what are my options for up-to-dating RHEL3 ?
 
 I have a CD set of RHEL3, which obviously is quite old and out of date;
 I've just installed it on a 'test system' and would like if possible to
 apply updates/fixes etc, but, don't want to spend too much if that is
 possible.

If you don't want to pay for the license for support and updates, you
can download the source rpms from Red hat and compile them yourself.
Considering how many updates there have been for RHEL3 over the course
of its release, it'd be easier just to pay for the license I reckon
(pending how much money you have to spend of course).

I think you might be able to sign up to the RHN for a 30 day trial,
which'll get you up to date for now.

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Re: [SLUG] kernel versions 2.6/Asterisk Q

2006-03-27 Thread David Gillies
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Voytek Eymont wrote:
 as far as I recall, Asterisk docs state that a kernel 2.6 is needed for
 Asterisk, I've just installed RHEL3 thinking that will be adequate for
 Asterisk, but it seems RHEL3 is kernel 2.4x;
 
 do I need a kernel update, or what do I need to get a kernel 2.6 ?

RHEL3 only has 2.4.21.x kernels. If you want 2.6, you'll either need to
build yourself a vanilla 2.6 kernel (kinda defeats the purpose of
installing RHEL3) or try out RHEL4 instead, which currently has a 2.6.9
series kernel.

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Re: [SLUG] kernel versions 2.6/Asterisk Q

2006-03-27 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 03:29:06PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
 do I need a kernel update,

Nah, I'm pretty sure RHEL3 only does 2.4

 or what do I need to get a kernel 2.6 ?

Get a modern distro release.

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Re: [SLUG] kernel versions 2.6/Asterisk Q

2006-03-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Voytek Eymont wrote:
as far as I recall, Asterisk docs state that a kernel 2.6 is needed for
Asterisk, I've just installed RHEL3 thinking that will be adequate for
Asterisk, but it seems RHEL3 is kernel 2.4x;

do I need a kernel update, or what do I need to get a kernel 2.6 ?

If you've just installed RHEL3, have you considered using RHEL4 instead?
It comes with kernel 2.6.9.
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Re: [SLUG] kernel versions 2.6/Asterisk Q

2006-03-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 03:29:06PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
 do I need a kernel update,

Nah, I'm pretty sure RHEL3 only does 2.4

 or what do I need to get a kernel 2.6 ?

Get a modern distro release.

EL3 is pretty modern and rock solid for doing anything within the
constraints of the packages you get from the vendor.
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Re: [SLUG] kernel versions 2.6/Asterisk Q

2006-03-27 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, March 28, 2006 4:58 pm, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Voytek Eymont wrote:

 If you've just installed RHEL3, have you considered using RHEL4
 instead? It comes with kernel 2.6.9.

2 reasons:

I already had a CD set of RHEL3;
I thought Asterisk book did mention RHEL3, so:

I put the two together, and, thought, 'this is good'... till I installed
and saw the kernel 2.4, and, recalled other part of book that mentioned
kernel 2.6



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[SLUG] ubuntu install cd's

2006-03-27 Thread Peter baker
hey guys

I have some more ubuntu installcds if anyoneneeds one...

see the aust ubuntu loco team wiki for more

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeampeter
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