Re: [SLUG] NTP problems
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:23:42PM +1000, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: # ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *hostname 220.233.180.218 3 u 65 64 3770.1515.983 0.498 What, only one host? Some say it's best to synchronize with at least three, where each of them have independent lower stratum sources. If your upstream ISP provides a server, use that as well as some of the pool ones. But to answer your question, some kernels have problems on some motherboards. -- Christopher Vance -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NTP problems
On kernel.org people have had problems with spreadspectrum settings in their BIOS. http://kerneltrap.org/node/4872Maybe that could help? Greg.On 5/3/06, Julio Cesar Ody <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Hello Gavin,nothing in /var/log/*. The only messages I'm getting in /var/log/nto.log (which is where I'm pointing all ntpd log files to)are the ones it generates on shutdown, and that's me shutting it downtesting different config options.The computer is a Compaq Presario SR1500AN. Apparently there's nothing weird in it (IDE hard disk, no RAID).Dunno, I never saw that before. I'm watching the debug logs for it(ntpd -D 3), and there's nothing showing any apparent error.Thanks anyway. I'll keep looking. On 5/3/06, Gavin Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi Julio,>> On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:23:42PM +1000, Julio Cesar Ody wrote:> > But in this machine, no matter how much I want, this is what I get: > >> >> > # ntpq -p> > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset> > jitter> > == > > hostname 220.233.180.218 3 u 23 64 3770.169 -756185> > 80237.9>> Is there anything relevant in your ntp.log file? Also check > /var/log/messages (or whatever gentoo uses for daemon/kernel messages),> particularly for for anything about 'ntp', 'clock', 'freq', or 'tick'.> I imagine you'll at least have ntpd messages about frequency errors > exceeding the standard tolerances.>> It's quite possibly a hardware issue - maybe a motherboard with a bios> issue that is losing ticks, or some other hardware (I've seen it with> some hardware raid cards) screwing up the clock ticks somehow. Do you > have any interesting hardware in that box?>> Cheers,> Gavin>> --> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html>--Julio C. Odyhttp://rootshell.be/~julioody --SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NTP problems
Hello Gavin, nothing in /var/log/*. The only messages I'm getting in /var/log/nto.log (which is where I'm pointing all ntpd log files to) are the ones it generates on shutdown, and that's me shutting it down testing different config options. The computer is a Compaq Presario SR1500AN. Apparently there's nothing weird in it (IDE hard disk, no RAID). Dunno, I never saw that before. I'm watching the debug logs for it (ntpd -D 3), and there's nothing showing any apparent error. Thanks anyway. I'll keep looking. On 5/3/06, Gavin Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Julio, On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:23:42PM +1000, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: > But in this machine, no matter how much I want, this is what I get: > > > # ntpq -p > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > == > hostname 220.233.180.218 3 u 23 64 3770.169 -756185 > 80237.9 Is there anything relevant in your ntp.log file? Also check /var/log/messages (or whatever gentoo uses for daemon/kernel messages), particularly for for anything about 'ntp', 'clock', 'freq', or 'tick'. I imagine you'll at least have ntpd messages about frequency errors exceeding the standard tolerances. It's quite possibly a hardware issue - maybe a motherboard with a bios issue that is losing ticks, or some other hardware (I've seen it with some hardware raid cards) screwing up the clock ticks somehow. Do you have any interesting hardware in that box? Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Julio C. Ody http://rootshell.be/~julioody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NTP problems
Hi Julio, On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:23:42PM +1000, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: > But in this machine, no matter how much I want, this is what I get: > > > # ntpq -p > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > == > hostname 220.233.180.218 3 u 23 64 3770.169 -756185 > 80237.9 Is there anything relevant in your ntp.log file? Also check /var/log/messages (or whatever gentoo uses for daemon/kernel messages), particularly for for anything about 'ntp', 'clock', 'freq', or 'tick'. I imagine you'll at least have ntpd messages about frequency errors exceeding the standard tolerances. It's quite possibly a hardware issue - maybe a motherboard with a bios issue that is losing ticks, or some other hardware (I've seen it with some hardware raid cards) screwing up the clock ticks somehow. Do you have any interesting hardware in that box? Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] NTP problems
Hi all, I've set up some gentoo powered desktops in the network I administer with ntpd, so they keep their times sync with the "main application server". So basically, this main server's ntpd syncs with au.pool.ntp.org, and all the other ntpd servers in each of the desktops sync with the main server, thus, creating a small farm. This setup is working well, but there's one machine that keeps jumping ahead of all others, even though it uses the exact same config file than the other desktops where NTP is working fine. All desktops in question are set to localtime (even the buggy one). I cp'ed /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney to /etc/localtime when installing them. To make sure I had a clean slate, I used ntpdate to "brute-sync" the machine with the main server (worked fine), then issued a "hwclock --systohc" so the hardware clock is set to the correct time, then started ntpd. The other machines, after around 10 minutes, will sync fine, showing this as the output for "ntpq -p" # ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *hostname 220.233.180.218 3 u 65 64 3770.1515.983 0.498 (AFAIK, then preceeding * in the hostname shows it's synchronizing with hostname) But in this machine, no matter how much I want, this is what I get: # ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == hostname 220.233.180.218 3 u 23 64 3770.169 -756185 80237.9 For reference, this is /etc/ntp.conf in the main server: # server au.pool.ntp.org prefer server 0.oceania.pool.ntp.org driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift logfile /var/log/ntp.log restrict default kod nomodify nopeer notrap noquery restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict 192.168.111.0 mask 255.255.255.0 kod nomodify nopeer notrap # And this is the one for the clients: # server mainserver driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift restrict default nomodify nopeer restrict 127.0.0.0 logfile /var/log/ntp.log # Before anyone asks: yes, mainservers resolves OK to the main server's IP address. There's no firewalling/filtering in the internal network. Any help is appreciated. -- Julio C. Ody http://rootshell.be/~julioody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Re: [SLUG] Latex, tabular screwed
Terry Collins wrote:
> I'm having trouble with tabular environemt in latex atm[1]. Basically,
> it just finding errors that don't give a clue.
>
>
> \begin{tabular}{|p|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline
thanks, the p{35mm} fixed it.
I didn't actually try this option, but had previously tried giving a
dimension al all columns, which still caused an error.
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Re: [SLUG] Mounting flash drive.
On 5/3/06, john gibbons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From all four approaches I ended up with the statement that the usb disk does not exist. My own technical know-how has long since fizzled out. How does one make it exist in the first place? Ignoring the philosophical implications of that question, it might be helpful if you can post to the list the output of "dmesg" when you plug in the usb disk. Is there any device that looks like /dev/sdXX after you have plugged it in? Maybe the module for usb mass storage is not being loaded for some reason? Cheers..Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mounting flash drive.
Thanks to the two Peters and Sridhar and Dion for their suggestions. Sorry I am late giving feedback. I tried each one. From all four approaches I ended up with the statement that the usb disk does not exist. My own technical know-how has long since fizzled out. How does one make it exist in the first place? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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[SLUG] Gathering
Hi all, Meeting of SLUGAMuSIG - Audio/ Music Special Interest Group - planned for Sat 6 May as mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Nothing formal planned, but suggestions welcome. When: Saturday, May 6; 10:30am - 4:00pm Where: Macquarie University, Department of Contemporary Music Studies, building W6A, room 608 The best way to get to the Music Department (on the 6th floor of building W6A) is from the Balaclava Rd entrance (opposite Woolies from Epping Rd). The closest parking is "W4", and costs $10.00 for the whole day. For people arriving at various times through the day, the front door may be locked, but we'll keep an eye out, or call Denis on 0408 478 802. Cheers, Denis -- Denis Crowdy Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109, Australia +61 2 9850 6787; http://www.dcms.mq.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] May 2nd meeting of the Sydney PostgreSQL Users Group
The May meeting of the Sydney PostgreSQL Users Group will be held on the 2nd of May at UTS. The meeting will commence at 6:30pm. Gavin Sherry will be discussing best practice procedures for employees and contractors deploying, administering and implementing backup and disaster recovery for PostgreSQL. The meeting will be held in building 1 (the tower building), level 4, room 406. A map of UTS can be found here[1] See you all there. Gavin -- [1] http://www.uts.edu.au/about/mapsdirections/bway.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] booting linux without grub or lilo
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 13:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 15:18 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > > > Just have a question is there a way to boot linux without using a > > > bootloader. > > > > So, in much the same way as you can copy a kernel to a floppy and it > > 'just boots', I'm sure there is some way of doing a similar thing from > > your hard drive. But it's relatively dangerous, and I'm sure it will > > involve a bunch of annoying restrictions in what you can do. For one of my embedded projects where boot time was an issue, I used grub, no wait, 2.6, no modules and from power-on till all running was a smidge under 5 secs on a 533 VIA eden with flash and 32M. I don't think the boot-loader contributed more than 10s ms James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex, tabular screwed
Terry Collins wrote:
I'm having trouble with tabular environemt in latex atm[1]. Basically,
it just finding errors that don't give a clue.
\begin{tabular}{|p|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline
mass (M g) & 10.0 & 10.5 & 11.0 & 11.5 & 12.0 &
12.5 \\ \hline
Extension ( e mm) & 16 & 18& 22& 25& 26&
30 \\ \hline
\end{tabular}
The p in the column declaration needs to be p{some_length} e.g. p{10em}
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Re: [SLUG] Latex, tabular screwed
On Tue, 02 May 2006 16:09:40 +1000
Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having trouble with tabular environemt in latex atm[1]. Basically,
> it just finding errors that don't give a clue.
>
>
> \begin{tabular}{|p|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline
> mass (M g)& 10.0 & 10.5 & 11.0 &
> 11.5 & 12.0 & 12.5 \\ \hline Extension ( e mm) &
> 16& 18& 22& 25& 26& 30 \\
> \hline \end{tabular}
>
> gives the error
> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
> m
> ass (M g)& 10.0 & 10.5 & 11.0 &
> 11.5 & 12.0 & 12.5 \\ \hline
>
> Basically, what frigging number does it want?
> and why is it looking for it on the first line?
>
>
> and inserting the only number I can think of
>
> \begin{tabular}{150mm}{|p|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline
> mass (M g)& 10.0 & 10.5 & 11.0 &
> 11.5 & 12.0 & 12.5 \\ \hline Extension ( e mm) &
> 16& 18& 22& 25& 26& 30 \\
> \hline \end{tabular}
>
> gets the error
>
> ! LaTeX Error: Illegal character in array arg.
>
>
> TIA
Replace \begin{tabular}{|p|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline
with
\begin{tabular}{|p{3cm}|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline
Cheers,
>
>
>
> [1]
> Debian sarge in case it matters
>
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