Re: [SLUG] How to get Nautilus to close the parent window?

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Michael Lake

 Ah OK. I'll use Browser windows. I saw that option but it wasn't what I
 wanted as it provided too much info on the screen while the simpler file
 window was all I wanted. Hence I was looking for other options somewhere.

Too much info... in the sidebar? You can turn that off. You can turn most of
the other toolbar-ish widgets off too. :-)

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[SLUG] Specialised delivery for Postfix - can it be done?

2006-07-10 Thread DaZZa

Folks.

I have a box running postfix which delivers a small amount of mail to
both internal and external addresses.

I need to be able to configure it to deliver mail for a specific
domain to one mail server without doing a MX record lookup - send all
mail @foo.bar.au to 10.1.1.1 and everything else to 12.2.2.2, for
example.

Can this be done? I'm not very familiar with Postfix, so I'm using
Webmin to try and configure it - but I'll plug command lines in if
someone can point me to the right file/format to stick in.

Thanks.

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Re: [SLUG] Specialised delivery for Postfix - can it be done?

2006-07-10 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = DaZZa ;
 
 I need to be able to configure it to deliver mail for a specific
 domain to one mail server without doing a MX record lookup - send all
 mail @foo.bar.au to 10.1.1.1 and everything else to 12.2.2.2, for
 example.

put this in /etc/postfix/transport

foo.bar.au  :[10.1.1.1]

and these in /etc/postfix/main.cf

transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
relayhost = 12.2.2.2

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Re: [SLUG] Specialised delivery for Postfix - can it be done?

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=DaZZa

 I need to be able to configure it to deliver mail for a specific domain to
 one mail server without doing a MX record lookup - send all mail
 @foo.bar.au to 10.1.1.1 and everything else to 12.2.2.2, for example.

You need to use a transport map, and square brackets around the IP address
(to indicate that you want it delivered directly to that IP without any MX
lookups). For example:

  foo.bar.au   smtp:[10.1.1.1]

That will often go in /etc/postfix/transport (which you need to postmap(1)
afterward), but that depends on how customised your configuration is.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Firefox as IE

2006-07-10 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:46:40 +1000
Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alan L Tyree wrote:
  On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:19:52 +1000
  Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Alan L Tyree wrote:
  Can someone remind me how to make web sites think that Firefox is
  IE?
 
  There are other ways but easiest is to download User Agent
  Switcher extension.
  
  Many thanks.
  
 
 Glad to oblige...even if I did change the list the request was
 on :(

I try to keep the really dumb questions on chat.

 
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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-10 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 14:02 +1000, James Gray wrote:

 If you need to manage multiple firewalls with a consistent
 policy/framework across multiple platforms (Linux/BSD and even Cisco
 PIX, Linksys, etc too) then fwbuilder might be another candidate.

Fwbuilder is a personal favourite too. I have nice (encrypted)
collection of FWB files for all the firewalls I'm responsible for. Very
handy for re-creating in emergency situations as well as cloning.

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Re: [SLUG] Specialised delivery for Postfix - can it be done?

2006-07-10 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = DaZZa ;
 
 OK, now I get an error message in /var/log/mail
 
 Jul 10 16:13:57 sky20 postfix/pickup[32763]: 9012CAFE6A: uid=0 from=root
 Jul 10 16:13:57 sky20 postfix/trivial-rewrite[310]: warning: database
 /etc/postfix/transport.db is older than source file
 /etc/postfix/transport
 
 How do I update the database file? I assume it's something like
 newalias? newtransport?

run this:

postmap hash:/etc/postfix/transport

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu default route

2006-07-10 Thread Michael Chesterton
Christopher Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a machine running Dapper with two interfaces, one wired, one
 wireless.

Sounds like network manager would be ideal. There has been some
discussion here about it if you want to search the archives.

from memory you want to 

apt-get install network-manager-gnome 

edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the wired and the
wireless interface.

run nm-applet, you should see a new mouse like icon in the panel. It
adds itself to your session startup programs, so you don't need to do
anything for it to start after a reboot. It should default to wired,
and switch to wireless if wired goes down.

 What is the 'right' way to do this for Ubuntu/Debian.

This would be my way if you don't want to use network manager.  First
ifdown both interfaces, and make sure there's no dhclient
running. Setup the wired interface in /etc/network/interfaces to be
auto and dhcp, setup the wireless to be dhcp but not auto. ifup the
wired interface.

Then it will be wired by default, if you want to swap, sudo ifdown wired;
sudo ifup wireless.

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[SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Phil Scarratt

Hi

I'm after opinions on the following two options in terms of a straight 
firewall. Since I have never used OpenWRT devices before I don't have 
any idea how they rate against a full pc running as a firewall. The 
options are:


1. OpenWRT on a Linksys device
2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running linux.

The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have 
to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently 
investigating/googling whether an OpentWRT device can do this) in the 
future. Otherwise fairly straight forward. This is for a business 
environment.


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[SLUG] Re: Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Ben Buxton
Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing:
 Hi
 
 1. OpenWRT on a Linksys device
 2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running linux.
 
 The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have 
 to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently 
 investigating/googling whether an OpentWRT device can do this) in the 
 future. Otherwise fairly straight forward. This is for a business 
 environment.

I've just installed an Asus device running OpenWRT to replace my home
gateway box, and I'm very impressed.

It gets full line rate on a 6190/768 ADSL line with pptp, including NAT,
firewalling and IPSec tunnels. Also has two USB ports (eg for storage,
etc)

More good news - all of its 5 ethernet ports can be partitioned into
separate logical interfaces, so you can create DMZ VLANs hanging off it.

http://wiki.openwrt.org/DemilitarizedZoneHowto

And thus you can also create multiple WAN interfaces.

Of course, it's silent.

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread John Clarke
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 05:45:51 +1000, Phil Scarratt wrote:

 2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running linux.

I'm doing this at home.  I'm running a cut-down ubuntu dapper
installation, initially installed as a breezy server then any packages I
didn't need removed, followed by a dist-upgrade to dapper when it was
released.  It has about 200 packages and uses less than 300MB of flash.

The h/w is one of those VIA PCs that Vini Engel was selling a month or
two ago.  I've added a PCI NIC (an SMC card which was small enough to
fit in the case) and a PCMCIA NIC to give me LAN, WAN and DMZ.  It took
some work to install the PCI NIC -- there were no holes in the back of
the case for it and the power connector was a bit too close to the PCI
slot, but it wasn't hard, just fiddly.

It runs off a 512MB CF card via a CF-IDE adapter, because although the
board has a CF slot the BIOS can't boot from it.  Apparently there is a
BIOS upgrade available but I couldn't find it easily, and the CF-IDE
adapter wasn't expensive enough for me to care.

The box has a fan, but it's very quiet.  I could probably disconnect it
without anything overheating, but the noise is insignificant -- there
are other much more noisy things in the room :-)

I did make a few changes to reduce the number of writes to the CF card
to extend its life: 

- mount / noatime
- use tmpfs for /tmp (with a max size limit so it can't take all
the RAM)
- no swap
- syslog to a LAN host and stop syslog being restarted each day if
there are no local log files (causes a write to /dev)
- change ntp.conf so that the drift file is in /tmp and copy it to
/var once a week if it's changed (and on boot/shutdown).

I think that was all.

 The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have 
 to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently 

I don't know whether any of the VIA motherboards have more than one PCI
slot.  If not, you'd need to use a case with enough room for a larger
PCI card with more than one network port, or use a USB ethernet adaptor.


Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu default route

2006-07-10 Thread Christopher Vance

On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 05:19:02PM +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote:

Sounds like network manager would be ideal. There has been some
discussion here about it if you want to search the archives.


I'll try it when I next have access to the machine.  Ta.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Firefox as IE

2006-07-10 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:32:43PM +1000, Alan L Tyree wrote:
 I try to keep the really dumb questions on chat.

There is no such thing as a dumb question :-)

There are however off-topic questions 


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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking

2006-07-10 Thread Phil Manuel
Jeff,I'm going to have to go back to Mandriva, as my network atleast worked under that distro. Now under Ubuntu i cannot see a single wireless network. Nothing seems to show why it can't see a network. It is very frustrating. At work i'm having to boot into windows and run Linux under VMWARE.
Very very frustrated.Phil.On 7/7/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Sonia Hamilton * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:57:31AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:  The default software isn't clever enough to do this for you. However,  with a little help from Network Manager (install network-manager-gnome),
  you will have a *very* pleasurable network switching experience; both  wifi and wired. Hey Jeff, I installed network manager, but I couldn't seem to find a way of
 configuring or running it. I had a look around with dpkg -L network-manager, couldn't see anything obvious. Is it just Friday afternoon  my brain has gone to sleep?No, it's just a bit obtuse at the moment because it's not nicely integrated
for you. Run nm-applet (which is in network-manager-gnome). You should alsocheck that it is in your startup list (System  Preferences  Sessions).- Jeff--linux.conf.au
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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking

2006-07-10 Thread Phil Manuel
Jeff,I'm going to have to go back to Mandriva, as my network atleast worked under that distro. Now under Ubuntu i cannot see a single wireless network. Nothing seems to show why it can't see a network. It is very frustrating. At work i'm having to boot into windows and run Linux under VMWARE.
Very very frustrated.Phil.On 7/7/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Sonia Hamilton * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:57:31AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:  The default software isn't clever enough to do this for you. However,  with a little help from Network Manager (install network-manager-gnome),
  you will have a *very* pleasurable network switching experience; both  wifi and wired. Hey Jeff, I installed network manager, but I couldn't seem to find a way of
 configuring or running it. I had a look around with dpkg -L network-manager, couldn't see anything obvious. Is it just Friday afternoon  my brain has gone to sleep?No, it's just a bit obtuse at the moment because it's not nicely integrated
for you. Run nm-applet (which is in network-manager-gnome). You should alsocheck that it is in your startup list (System  Preferences  Sessions).- Jeff--linux.conf.au
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Simon Wong
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 10:02 +0200, Ben Buxton wrote:
 I've just installed an Asus device running OpenWRT to replace my home
 gateway box, and I'm very impressed.

Which device did you use Ben?

I've been wanting to try this out with the WRT54G but could only
purchase a newer version (v5) than was supported at the time.  This
makes it a bit hard to use on an ongoing basis.

Maybe Asus's device have a more stable hardware selection.


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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Simon Wong
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 17:45 +1000, Phil Scarratt wrote:
 2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running linux.

The biggest problem I have come across looking at these is finding
something with 3 NICs without spending a fortune on a multiple interface
card from Intel.

Another issue seems to be that they are sold as whole units, you can't
replace many parts or even the MoBo without returning the whole unit.

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[SLUG] Re: Re: Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Ben Buxton
Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing:
 On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 10:02 +0200, Ben Buxton wrote:
  I've just installed an Asus device running OpenWRT to replace my home
  gateway box, and I'm very impressed.
 
 Which device did you use Ben?
 
 I've been wanting to try this out with the WRT54G but could only
 purchase a newer version (v5) than was supported at the time.  This
 makes it a bit hard to use on an ongoing basis.
 
 Maybe Asus's device have a more stable hardware selection.

I have an Asus WL-500gP. 8Mb Flash and 32Mb DRAM (more than most other
openwrt devices). It also has 2 USB ports.

Lots of other devices are supported:

http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Glen Turner

Phil Scarratt wrote:

Hi

I'm after opinions on the following two options in terms of a straight 
firewall. Since I have never used OpenWRT devices before I don't have 
any idea how they rate against a full pc running as a firewall. The 
options are:


1. OpenWRT on a Linksys device
2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running linux.

The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have 
to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently 
investigating/googling whether an OpentWRT device can do this) in the 
future. Otherwise fairly straight forward. This is for a business 
environment.


The DMZ might be a problem for the WRT54GL since they only
have three routable interfaces (wireless, Internet and
LAN).  I don't think that the four 100Base-TX ports are
independently routable.

You could certainly work around that -- such as having a
DMZ tunnel.

My testing has the WRT54GL running out of grunt at around
45Mbps of large packet traffic.  So I wouldn't use it as
a firewall for anything more than a ADSL link otherwise
denying service is just a matter of sending a lot of
back-to-back small packets.

I'm very impressed by the OpenWRT software -- the packaging
is really well thought out and it is a joy to use.  We use
it for a access points, since we want them to run IPv6, which
isn't supported by the manufcturer's firmware.

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[SLUG] Re: Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Ben Buxton
Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing:
 
 The DMZ might be a problem for the WRT54GL since they only
 have three routable interfaces (wireless, Internet and
 LAN).  I don't think that the four 100Base-TX ports are
 independently routable.
 

They certainly are. Depending on the exact make/model, every single 
port (all 5) can be configured as a separately routable inteface if you want.

(Yes there are 5 - the WAN port is just configured by default on its own
VLAN as the outside interface)

The only thing to keep in mind is that traffic _routed_ between separate 
VLANs is trunked through a single (internal) 100Mb port. Traffic on the 
same segment is fully switched though.

 I'm very impressed by the OpenWRT software -- the packaging
 is really well thought out and it is a joy to use.  We use
 it for a access points, since we want them to run IPv6, which
 isn't supported by the manufcturer's firmware.

Yup - the software is very good. It's really nice to see a debian/apt
style system. eg 'ipkg install nmap' and it downloads and installs
automatically.

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Phil Scarratt

 I'm after opinions on the following two options in terms of a straight
 firewall. Since I have never used OpenWRT devices before I don't have any
 idea how they rate against a full pc running as a firewall.

 The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have
 to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently
 investigating/googling whether an OpentWRT device can do this) in the
 future. Otherwise fairly straight forward. This is for a business
 environment.

So, OpenWRT is rad if you want a fairly complete Debian-style environment on
your router, but if you would prefer to have a replacement for the normal
firmware that has way more features and a much groovier web admin console,
try dd-wrt. It handles DMZ, setting up the ports differently, etc.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Phil Manuel

 I'm going to have to go back to Mandriva, as my network atleast worked
 under that distro.  Now under Ubuntu i cannot see a single wireless
 network.  Nothing seems to show why it can't see a network.  It is very
 frustrating.  At work i'm having to boot into windows and run Linux under
 VMWARE.
 
 Very very frustrated.

You haven't really explained what happened - it sounded as though wireless
worked for you earlier, but you wanted a prettier/smarter interface - now
you're saying wireless doesn't work at all?

Why throw the baby out with the bathwater when SLUG is here to help solve
your problem?

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:45:36PM +0200, Ben Buxton wrote:
 Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing:
  On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 10:02 +0200, Ben Buxton wrote:
   I've just installed an Asus device running OpenWRT to replace my home
   gateway box, and I'm very impressed.
  
  Which device did you use Ben?
  
  I've been wanting to try this out with the WRT54G but could only
  purchase a newer version (v5) than was supported at the time.  This
  makes it a bit hard to use on an ongoing basis.
  
  Maybe Asus's device have a more stable hardware selection.
 
 I have an Asus WL-500gP. 8Mb Flash and 32Mb DRAM (more than most other
 openwrt devices). It also has 2 USB ports.
where did you buy this from ?

How has openwrt behaved on this, noticed there are some caveats on it at
the openwrt site

Alex

 
 Lots of other devices are supported:
 
 http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
 
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Workshop THIS Sunday

2006-07-10 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Wed, July 5, 2006 1:06 am, Chris Deigan wrote:

 SLUG's workshop will be a be a fusion of traditional SLUG events -
 consisting of a codefest, videofest, installfest and for the first time at
 SLUG, a deckfest.

many thanks to you and SLUG for the help with Centos CDs

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Christopher Vance

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:31:16AM +1000, Simon Wong wrote:

The biggest problem I have come across looking at these is finding
something with 3 NICs without spending a fortune on a multiple interface
card from Intel.


The soekris and pc-engines wrap both have 3 NICs, and are available
from Yawarra.

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread jam
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 01:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running
  linux.

 I'm doing this at home.  I'm running a cut-down ubuntu dapper
 installation, initially installed as a breezy server then any packages I
 didn't need removed, followed by a dist-upgrade to dapper when it was
 released.  It has about 200 packages and uses less than 300MB of flash.

 The h/w is one of those VIA PCs that Vini Engel was selling a month or
 two ago.  I've added a PCI NIC (an SMC card which was small enough to
 fit in the case) and a PCMCIA NIC to give me LAN, WAN and DMZ.  It took
 some work to install the PCI NIC -- there were no holes in the back of
 the case for it and the power connector was a bit too close to the PCI
 slot, but it wasn't hard, just fiddly.

 It runs off a 512MB CF card via a CF-IDE adapter, because although the
 board has a CF slot the BIOS can't boot from it.  Apparently there is a
 BIOS upgrade available but I couldn't find it easily, and the CF-IDE
 adapter wasn't expensive enough for me to care.

 The box has a fan, but it's very quiet.  I could probably disconnect it
 without anything overheating, but the noise is insignificant -- there
 are other much more noisy things in the room :-)

 I did make a few changes to reduce the number of writes to the CF card
 to extend its life:

     - mount / noatime
     - use tmpfs for /tmp (with a max size limit so it can't take all
         the RAM)
     - no swap
     - syslog to a LAN host and stop syslog being restarted each day if
         there are no local log files (causes a write to /dev)
     - change ntp.conf so that the drift file is in /tmp and copy it to
         /var once a week if it's changed (and on boot/shutdown).

 I think that was all.

  The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have
  to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently

 I don't know whether any of the VIA motherboards have more than one PCI
 slot.  If not, you'd need to use a case with enough room for a larger
 PCI card with more than one network port, or use a USB ethernet adaptor.

A lot of work. Satifying. http://www.ltsp.org does it more elegantly:
main FS is RO
/tmp is RAM
writable stuff sym-linked to /tmp
eg logs, dynamic xorg.conf etc
About 200M last time I counted, although I used a 30M version in my 
olive-pickers (5s boot, wireless) 
http://tigger.ws/vtigger/main.php?g2_itemId=3985

(I don't use X here)
James
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[SLUG] Why do ARM processors (and friends) use k 2.4.x?

2006-07-10 Thread Dean Hamstead

Just out of curiosity, why do ARM and other embedded type
architectures still use kernel 2.4 series?

Verbose technical information is fine ;)

Dean

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Re: [SLUG] Why do ARM processors (and friends) use k 2.4.x?

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Dean Hamstead

 Just out of curiosity, why do ARM and other embedded type architectures
 still use kernel 2.4 series?
 
 Verbose technical information is fine ;)

Not all do - the 770 uses 2.6.12. I know some very small systems still use
2.4 due to kernel size (though that is changing with all the nice embedded
options in 2.6), 'interesting' hardware support or just pure inertia (once
you've built a platform, stick with it for as long as you can - especially
if you have a bunch of custom patches).

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Re: [SLUG] Why do ARM processors (and friends) use k 2.4.x?

2006-07-10 Thread Dean Hamstead

ahh yes custom patches.

which could be a big reason for embedded apps with funky proprietary 
hardwares.


good thinking. i thought that perhaps some memory algorithm hadn't been
ported (or worse)

Dean

Jeff Waugh wrote:

quote who=Dean Hamstead


Just out of curiosity, why do ARM and other embedded type architectures
still use kernel 2.4 series?

Verbose technical information is fine ;)


Not all do - the 770 uses 2.6.12. I know some very small systems still use
2.4 due to kernel size (though that is changing with all the nice embedded
options in 2.6), 'interesting' hardware support or just pure inertia (once
you've built a platform, stick with it for as long as you can - especially
if you have a bunch of custom patches).

- Jeff



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Re: [SLUG] Why do ARM processors (and friends) use k 2.4.x?

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh

  Just out of curiosity, why do ARM and other embedded type architectures
  still use kernel 2.4 series?

 Not all do - the 770 uses 2.6.12.

(And they actually upgraded the kernel for the new firmware - 2.6.16!)

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions

2006-07-10 Thread Phil Scarratt

Christopher Vance wrote:

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:31:16AM +1000, Simon Wong wrote:

The biggest problem I have come across looking at these is finding
something with 3 NICs without spending a fortune on a multiple interface
card from Intel.


The soekris and pc-engines wrap both have 3 NICs, and are available
from Yawarra.



VIA also make a motherboard with 2 NIC's and a PCI slot. ELX sell boxes 
with these in them I believe.


Thanks for the comments. The general consensus (and from my searching) 
seems to be there is not much difference between the embedded type and 
the full pc type as long as the embedded type chosen has a processor 
capable of maintaining a high enough throughput of packets for the 
chosen application.


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Re: [SLUG] Why do ARM processors (and friends) use k 2.4.x?

2006-07-10 Thread Michael Kedzierski

On 7/11/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

quote who=Jeff Waugh

  Just out of curiosity, why do ARM and other embedded type architectures
  still use kernel 2.4 series?

 Not all do - the 770 uses 2.6.12.

(And they actually upgraded the kernel for the new firmware - 2.6.16!)


I have a Sharp Zaurus C3000 and it comes with a 2.4 kernel out of the
box, but people have ported Sharp's patches over to 2.6.
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[SLUG] OSDC Paper Proposals due tomorrow!

2006-07-10 Thread Jacinta Richardson
G'day everyone,

This is a final reminder that OSDC papers are due tomorrow.  Our conference is
nothing without speakers, so I encourage you all to get your proposals in as
soon as possible!

http://www.osdc.com.au/papers/cfp06.html

For those who've never submitted a proposal before, or spoken at at conference:
fear not!  A proposal is just a couple of paragraphs about what you think you
might like to say.  If your talk's direction changes somewhat when you start
writing it, that's okay!  Further, we encourage you to give your talk(s) to your
local user groups (for example OSDClub) before the conference.  This will give
you some great practice time and give us the chance to give you some feedback.

If you have any friends or family members who might also want to present, please
feel free to pass this invitation on.  Likewise if you know of any related user
groups who haven't heard from us, please invite them to participate.  Our goal
is to make this conference truly representative of Australia's amazing Open
Source development community!

We look forward to seeing your paper submission.

Jacinta

PS:  If you're interested in being part of the paper selection committee, please
contact Richard, our Programme Chair:  richard at osdc.com.au

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[SLUG] Nautilus and fsck

2006-07-10 Thread Peter Miller
Is there a way to tell the Nautilus file manager to fsck disks before
mounting them?

Is there a way to get nautilus to insert Check Volume in the same menu
as it displays Mount Volume for unmounted disks?

This is in the context of external USB HDD enclosures.

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Re: [SLUG] Nautilus and fsck

2006-07-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Miller

 Is there a way to tell the Nautilus file manager to fsck disks before
 mounting them?
 
 Is there a way to get nautilus to insert Check Volume in the same menu
 as it displays Mount Volume for unmounted disks?
 
 This is in the context of external USB HDD enclosures.

No, but they sound like good feature requests. (Things like this often don't
happen because they require top-to-bottom integration that only a distro can
provide, not GNOME itself - but that, thankfully, is beginning to change as
GNOME pushes distros to integration things like HAL, g-v-m, g-p-m, etc.)

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Re: [SLUG] Why do ARM processors (and friends) use k 2.4.x?

2006-07-10 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi Dean,

--- Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, why do ARM and other embedded
 type
 architectures still use kernel 2.4 series?

Its easier to continue to use 2.4 for time-to-market
reasons.

I use AT91RM9200 and ARM926EJ-S at work, and we have
migrated to 2.6.

ARM doesn't provide support for 2.4, atleast they
didn't for me. They recommended moving to 2.6. For
embedded its much easier to use devfs. Studying,
analyzing 2.6 kernel takes some time.

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Re: [SLUG] Nautilus and fsck

2006-07-10 Thread Martin Pool
On 11 Jul 2006, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quote who=Peter Miller
 
  Is there a way to tell the Nautilus file manager to fsck disks before
  mounting them?
  
  Is there a way to get nautilus to insert Check Volume in the same menu
  as it displays Mount Volume for unmounted disks?
  
  This is in the context of external USB HDD enclosures.

Until Nautilus can do this, you may get somewhere by using tunefs to
make the filesystem fsck every time it's mounted.  However:

 - the check will run with no UI and presumably write to
   .xsession-errors or somewhere

 - Nautilus may get upset that it takes so long to mount it
 
 - this might not even be respected by the code that mounts disks on
   insertion

But it might be worth a try.
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[SLUG] Nagios - changing scheduled downtime

2006-07-10 Thread Simon Wong
I know there are some Nagios users out there so this one's for you.

How do you change a scheduled downtime period once you have scheduled
it?

I made the mistake of making some downtime too long but I can't find
where to change the time frame.

I don't want to have to delete the entry as I should be able to keep it
as a record.

System is Ubuntu Dapper.

For anyone else wondering what this is about...Nagios is a network
monitoring framework.  You can use it to monitor all sorts of services
or machine parameters via built-in and external plugins.



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