Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:03:36 +1000 (EST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> As Dean said, but direct port 22 from the Router/Gateway to the local
> IP of his system.  Can be tough if in a corporate environment and you
> dont have that sort of permissions.
> 
> What stuff up was this ??
> I had a Adept update last night for xorg, should I of not done it?
> Havent restarted X yet since I did the update 
> 
There was a xserver-xorg-core update (1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3) that stuffed
a lot of machines - X simply wouldn't run anymore. My understanding is
that not all machines were trashed, but my friend's machine was.

It's very bad because he, like a lot of Ubuntu users, has only recently
switched from Windows and it is all unfamiliar and frightening to him.
If I hadn't been available he would not have had the slightest idea
about what to do. I'm sure that a lot of people will be turned off for
good.

I understand that the problem was fixed quickly, but .



> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:34:38AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
> >> port forwarding.
> >>
> >> on the nat router, look under the games/applications menu
> >> (assuming its an appliance type router)
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> Alan L Tyree wrote:
> >> >The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
> >> >friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It
> >> >was not a problem since he has a "real" ip address.
> >> >
> >> >What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
> >> >connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru,
> >> >but I can do some command line things).
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Alan
> >
> > Configuring port-fowarding on the the router is clearly
> > the best if you can do it.
> >
> > If you want nerd points, you (he) could compile netcat with
> > GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE and use it to allow external people
> > to use a connection initiated from the inside.  You'd use
> > ssl options or one of the netcat-like tools that use ssl.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
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Re: [SLUG] change title of xterm window

2006-08-22 Thread Hal Ashburner
Luke Vanderfluit wrote:
> Hi.
>
> How are you all doing?
>
> I use lots of xterms on my screen.
> I'd like to be able to change the title of the xterm window, by type in it at 
> the prompt.
>
> Anyone know how to do this?
>
> Currently I have the title dynamically show the path but that isn't enough to 
> distinguish when I have them 'rolled up' since I am working on several files 
> simultaneously from the same directory.
>
> Is there any other way anyone knows of that I could make each window 
> distinguishable preferably with a meaningful title?
websearch using something like say, xterm title
first hit is:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html

|xterm -T "My XTerm's Title" -n "My XTerm's Icon Title"

you may also want to read the appropriate section on dynamically setting
the title for your shell, so you can disable that...


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[SLUG] change title of xterm window

2006-08-22 Thread Luke Vanderfluit
Hi.

How are you all doing?

I use lots of xterms on my screen.
I'd like to be able to change the title of the xterm window, by type in it at 
the prompt.

Anyone know how to do this?

Currently I have the title dynamically show the path but that isn't enough to 
distinguish when I have them 'rolled up' since I am working on several files 
simultaneously from the same directory.

Is there any other way anyone knows of that I could make each window 
distinguishable preferably with a meaningful title?

Thanks.

Kind regards.
Luke Vanderfluit.
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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread david

As Dean said, but direct port 22 from the Router/Gateway to the local IP
of his system.  Can be tough if in a corporate environment and you dont
have that sort of permissions.

What stuff up was this ??
I had a Adept update last night for xorg, should I of not done it? Havent
restarted X yet since I did the update 





> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:34:38AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
>> port forwarding.
>>
>> on the nat router, look under the games/applications menu
>> (assuming its an appliance type router)
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> Alan L Tyree wrote:
>> >The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
>> >friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It was not
>> >a problem since he has a "real" ip address.
>> >
>> >What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
>> >connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru, but I
>> >can do some command line things).
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Alan
>
> Configuring port-fowarding on the the router is clearly
> the best if you can do it.
>
> If you want nerd points, you (he) could compile netcat with
> GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE and use it to allow external people
> to use a connection initiated from the inside.  You'd use
> ssl options or one of the netcat-like tools that use ssl.
>
> Matt
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:05:57AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The magic of ssh applies:
> The remote person sshs to you from somewhere either to your static or (quick 
> phone call: victory = 10c/min to USA!) your dynamic address
> 
> them: ssh -R 1200:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> me:   ssh -p 1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Bing! Hello!

Ohh yeah that beats my netcat.

Although you may as well just forward telnet; ssh over ssh could
be a little slow. So:

them: enable telnet, restrict to localhost with /etc/hosts.allow or xinetd.conf 
or iptables..
then ssh -R 1200:localhost:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

me:   telnet localhost 1200
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Re: [SLUG] Request For Venue: SLUG monthly meeting

2006-08-22 Thread Carlo Sogono
Anand Kumria posted this UTS venue issue in the UTS programming society 
mailing list (of which I am also subscribed). It was suggested that if 
the venue was to be registered by the programming society, then it would 
be free. Of course you would have to officially declare the meetings as 
a joint ProgSoc-SLUG event, with ProgSoc officials probably present in 
the meetings...


Carlo


Lindsay Holmwood wrote:

G'day all,
The SLUG committee were informed this afternoon that UTS will be
charging us for the use of their rooms as of next meeting. They want
$607 per meeting, that's with a non-profit discount.

SLUG cannot afford this, at least beyond the upcoming meeting. The
committee is going to try to arrange a sponsorship deal with the UTS
Faculty of IT or UTS themselves, but we don't think this can be done
in time for next week's meeting.

I've also been in contact with IBM, however they don't think they'll
be able to organise a venue in time for next week.

So we're hoping that someone in the community can help us out. If you
know a venue, or work for a company than can organise a venue fitting
40-100+ people, is close to public transport (trains especially), is
inexpensive (preferably free), and available for next Friday's
meeting, we'd love to hear from you.

At Pia's community panel a few months back there was talk of a
possible venue change to the University of Sydney. This would be
ideal, although it is late in the peice to set in motion.

We don't want this to be the end of our 12 year relationship with UTS,
but unfortunately if we can't work out a deal, it looks like it will
be.

Lindsay



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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:05:57 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 09:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
> > friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It was
> > not a problem since he has a "real" ip address.
> >
> > What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
> > connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru, but I
> > can do some command line things).
> 
> The magic of ssh applies:
> The remote person sshs to you from somewhere either to your static or
> (quick phone call: victory = 10c/min to USA!) your dynamic address

Gizmo Project: US 1c/min!!

> 
> them: ssh -R 1200:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> me:   ssh -p 1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Bing! Hello!

Thanks James.


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Re: [SLUG] Seeking iptables interface-specific script

2006-08-22 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:51:23AM +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote:
> Is there a canonical way of writing interface specific iptables scripts?
> 
> At the moment, I'm trying to write a couple of scripts with this
> behaviour to put in /etc/network/if[action].d/:
>  - when lo comes up, add an iptables rule
>  - when lo comes down, delete that same iptables rule
> 
> Other rules, ideally, would not be touched by that.
> 
> The trouble is that iptables doesn't seem to have great support for this
> automated rule-specific kind of operation. Individual rules can be
> deleted with -D, but only if you know the rule number which, as far as I
> can tell, you work out by running 'iptables -L' and counting the rules
> from the top of the chain.
I had something similiar to this, I kept a directory of all the current
iptables rules and then converted into input for iptables-save
iptables-restore, which batch loads the tables (hence much faster than
flushing and readding your rules one by one), this gets rid of the need
to delete specific rows.  I believe also that the batch load is atomic!

Alex

> 
> So are people doing this kind of interface specific iptables rules, and
> if so, how are you doing it? Is there a blessed way, or just a bunch of
> ways?
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Seeking iptables interface-specific script

2006-08-22 Thread Peter Hardy
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 11:51 +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote:
> Is there a canonical way of writing interface specific iptables scripts?
> 
> At the moment, I'm trying to write a couple of scripts with this
> behaviour to put in /etc/network/if[action].d/:
>  - when lo comes up, add an iptables rule
>  - when lo comes down, delete that same iptables rule
> 
> Other rules, ideally, would not be touched by that.

Brainstorming follows.

Create a new chain, say lo-rules, with a default policy of RETURN. Jump
to it at the appropriate place in your firewall script.

When lo comes up, add your iptables rule to the lo-rules chain.
When lo goes down, flush the lo-rules chain.

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[SLUG] Re: 5.25" Floppy Drive

2006-08-22 Thread elliott-brennan

No probs.

I'll e-mail you off-post with contact details.

Regards,

Patrick

O Plameras wrote:

elliott-brennan wrote:

Hi Oscar,

I have one. I can't say with certainty that it works - I rescued it 
from a working machine but haven't tested it yet.


In the spirit of Software Freedom Day it's now yours for free :)



Thanks a lot.

Can I pick it up or get a courier to pick it up ?

I don't wish to bother you with packaging, so
I'd prefer to pick up if that's alright with you.

Again, thank you.

O Plameras

Regards,

Patrick


O Plameras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:25:28 +1000
/Hi,

I'm looking for a 5.25" floppy drive (External or Internal) to recover
some program codes I have.

If you have and wish to dispose it for some cash please email me
offline. Or  I could lease it for a month or two if you still use it.

Thanks.

O Plameras









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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread jam
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 09:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
> friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It was not
> a problem since he has a "real" ip address.
>
> What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
> connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru, but I
> can do some command line things).

The magic of ssh applies:
The remote person sshs to you from somewhere either to your static or (quick 
phone call: victory = 10c/min to USA!) your dynamic address

them: ssh -R 1200:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

me:   ssh -p 1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bing! Hello!
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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Dean Hamstead

those would be 'geek' points. ;)

Dean



Configuring port-fowarding on the the router is clearly
the best if you can do it.

If you want nerd points, you (he) could compile netcat with
GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE and use it to allow external people
to use a connection initiated from the inside.  You'd use
ssl options or one of the netcat-like tools that use ssl.

Matt






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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:34:38AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
> port forwarding.
> 
> on the nat router, look under the games/applications menu
> (assuming its an appliance type router)
> 
> Dean
> 
> Alan L Tyree wrote:
> >The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
> >friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It was not
> >a problem since he has a "real" ip address.
> >
> >What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
> >connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru, but I
> >can do some command line things).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Alan

Configuring port-fowarding on the the router is clearly
the best if you can do it.

If you want nerd points, you (he) could compile netcat with
GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE and use it to allow external people
to use a connection initiated from the inside.  You'd use
ssl options or one of the netcat-like tools that use ssl.

Matt



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[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 42

2006-08-22 Thread jam
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 09:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Any help here would be appreciated.
>
> I had XP and Dapper working together on a partitioned drive. XP decided
> it would not boot any more because of a missing file. So I reinstalled
> it on its own previous drive partition leaving Ubuntu's untouched.  Now
> on boot up I am offered only this unattractive choice: I can select XP
> or I can select XP. Yes, it lists itself twice. No other option.
>
> Can I do something to get Ubuntu back as an option at boot up time or
> must I now reinstall it?

This is the WRONG answer, but is the quickest easiest way: REINSALL ubuntu

If you want to do it the hard way

1) Boot off any live CD. Ubuntu's is a good choice
2) Become root  sudo su, on knoppix knoppix->root shell etc
3) Mount your disk somewhere 
   eg (put in the correct values) mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
   also I've seen inconsistent results, make sure your root is not already   
   mounted by the live CD. # mount (if it is use that, don't try to mount)
4) Install grub: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hda

If your /boot/grub/menu.lst was correct, you will now have a correct boot 
menu.

Try the second way, if after much time you can't make it right, do 1.

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Re: [SLUG] Seeking iptables interface-specific script

2006-08-22 Thread John Clarke
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:51:23 +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote:

> deleted with -D, but only if you know the rule number which, as far as I
> can tell, you work out by running 'iptables -L' and counting the rules
> from the top of the chain.

With '--line-numbers' you don't have to count :-)

> So are people doing this kind of interface specific iptables rules, and
> if so, how are you doing it? Is there a blessed way, or just a bunch of
> ways?

I list the rules & look for the one I want, then delete it by number,
but I've only (so far) needed to do it in one script on one host.  You
may be able put the rule into a separate user-defined chain, then simply
flush the chain to delete it (iptables -F chain).


Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Seeking iptables interface-specific script

2006-08-22 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Mary Gardiner wrote:
>Is there a canonical way of writing interface specific iptables scripts?
>
>At the moment, I'm trying to write a couple of scripts with this
>behaviour to put in /etc/network/if[action].d/:
> - when lo comes up, add an iptables rule
> - when lo comes down, delete that same iptables rule
>
>Other rules, ideally, would not be touched by that.
>
>The trouble is that iptables doesn't seem to have great support for this
>automated rule-specific kind of operation. Individual rules can be
>deleted with -D, but only if you know the rule number which, as far as I
>can tell, you work out by running 'iptables -L' and counting the rules
>from the top of the chain.
>
>So are people doing this kind of interface specific iptables rules, and
>if so, how are you doing it? Is there a blessed way, or just a bunch of
>ways?

I took over maintainership of a tool called filtergen some years back, which
we use at Anchor for all firewall maintenance, and I can see a way to use it
to do what you want.

I'd have the up script copy the filter fragment into an include directory,
then regenerate the filter, and in the down script delete the fragment and
regenerate, i.e.:

/etc/filtergen/rules.filter:

 input eth0 {
   include /etc/filtergen/input.d/
 };

/etc/filtergen/input.d:
  some_fragment (symlink to ../fragment.d/some_fragment)

/etc/filtergen/fragment.d:
  some_fragment:
port 22 accept;

Does that make sense? :)
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Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread Lindsay Holmwood

On 8/23/06, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:38:40AM +1000, Michael Kedzierski wrote:
> On 8/22/06, Beach_Wins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am planning to go for the 1st time. So glad to read this message as I was
> >planning to go to Central station.
> >
> >I'm from Central Coast , Can you tell me if I should go to ST.Leonards
> >railway station and do I need to catch a bus .
>
> Hi, You'll need to get off the train at Central, and get on another
> train heading to hornsby via chatswood (the North Shore line).

Coming by train from the Central coast, it is likely to be quicker to get
off the intercity at Hornsby and switch to a suburban on the North Shore
line from there, instead of going all the way to Central and then back up
again.

On the other hand, Hornsby -> St. Leonards is a long way, and the train
times might not sync real well.  Check on 131500.com or the train timetables
directly to see which is actually quicker.



I agree with Matt.

The express from Hornsby to Central takes 35 minutes, and then you'll
have to change to an intercity platform at central and hop on a train
to St. Leonards, adding another 25 minutes on top of the Hornsby ->
Central hop.

Changing at Hornsby and going the North Shore line (Platform 1 that
time of day) will take you ~40 minutes.

Hope to see you there!
Lindsay




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[SLUG] Seeking iptables interface-specific script

2006-08-22 Thread Mary Gardiner
Is there a canonical way of writing interface specific iptables scripts?

At the moment, I'm trying to write a couple of scripts with this
behaviour to put in /etc/network/if[action].d/:
 - when lo comes up, add an iptables rule
 - when lo comes down, delete that same iptables rule

Other rules, ideally, would not be touched by that.

The trouble is that iptables doesn't seem to have great support for this
automated rule-specific kind of operation. Individual rules can be
deleted with -D, but only if you know the rule number which, as far as I
can tell, you work out by running 'iptables -L' and counting the rules
from the top of the chain.

So are people doing this kind of interface specific iptables rules, and
if so, how are you doing it? Is there a blessed way, or just a bunch of
ways?

-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] Pushy Windows

2006-08-22 Thread Craig Dibble

john gibbons wrote:

I had XP and Dapper working together on a partitioned drive. XP decided 
it would not boot any more because of a missing file. So I reinstalled 
it on its own previous drive partition leaving Ubuntu's untouched.  Now 
on boot up I am offered only this unattractive choice: I can select XP 
or I can select XP. Yes, it lists itself twice. No other option.


Can I do something to get Ubuntu back as an option at boot up time or 
must I now reinstall it?


I haven't had to do this for years, but usually you have two choices 
when this happens - you can either find and edit the windows boot.ini 
file and list your ubuntu partition, or probably preferable would be to 
fire up a live CD, mount your partitions, chroot yourself to your grub 
partition and do a grub-install.


Last time I tried anything like that would probably have been back in 
the era of Windows NT, Redhat 5 and lilo, so YMMV.


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Re: [SLUG] Pushy Windows

2006-08-22 Thread SkoZombie
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 09:53 +1000, john gibbons wrote:
> Any help here would be appreciated.
> 
> I had XP and Dapper working together on a partitioned drive. XP decided 
> it would not boot any more because of a missing file. So I reinstalled 
> it on its own previous drive partition leaving Ubuntu's untouched.  Now 
> on boot up I am offered only this unattractive choice: I can select XP 
> or I can select XP. Yes, it lists itself twice. No other option.
> 
> Can I do something to get Ubuntu back as an option at boot up time or 
> must I now reinstall it?
> 
> John.

It's a pretty common prob, windows likes nuking boot-loaders.

You've gotta get grub reinstalled. The easiest way I've found is:

1. boot using a live cd.
2. mount your ubuntu partition(s)
3. chroot to where you mounted ubuntu
4. run grub-install to reinstall your boot-loader

You should be fine. There's plenty of help around on the man pages etc,
or this list if you need :)

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Re: [SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Dean Hamstead

port forwarding.

on the nat router, look under the games/applications menu
(assuming its an appliance type router)

Dean

Alan L Tyree wrote:

The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It was not
a problem since he has a "real" ip address.

What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru, but I
can do some command line things).

Thanks,
Alan



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[SLUG] Connecting to a computer behind a NAT router

2006-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
The recent Ubuntu stuffup with xorg meant that I had to ssh to a
friends computer in the USA to get his X system going again. It was not
a problem since he has a "real" ip address.

What if he was behind a NAT router? Is there anyway that I could
connect to his machine to fix him up? (I'm not much of a guru, but I
can do some command line things).

Thanks,
Alan

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[SLUG] Re: SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:38:40AM +1000, Michael Kedzierski wrote:
> On 8/22/06, Beach_Wins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am planning to go for the 1st time. So glad to read this message as I was
> >planning to go to Central station.
> >
> >I'm from Central Coast , Can you tell me if I should go to ST.Leonards
> >railway station and do I need to catch a bus .
> 
> Hi, You'll need to get off the train at Central, and get on another
> train heading to hornsby via chatswood (the North Shore line).

Coming by train from the Central coast, it is likely to be quicker to get
off the intercity at Hornsby and switch to a suburban on the North Shore
line from there, instead of going all the way to Central and then back up
again.

On the other hand, Hornsby -> St. Leonards is a long way, and the train
times might not sync real well.  Check on 131500.com or the train timetables
directly to see which is actually quicker.

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[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread david

Awesome.  Thanks for that John.



> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:56:28 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> How would the parking be there at this time of day [if any exists at all
>> close by] ?
>
> Lots of meter parking, most of which becomes free at 6:00pm (or maybe
> 6:30pm).  Most areas have a two hour limit, and I think it's about
> $2/hr.  Closer to Crows Nest some areas are metered until 10:00pm.  I
> don't often park in the streets around there, but I'd expect you'd be
> able to find a spot not too far away (within 10 minutes walk).
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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> suppose they figured that having the entire box disappear in a lake of
> molten iron wouldn't make it easy to eat.
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[SLUG] Re: 5.25" Floppy Drive

2006-08-22 Thread O Plameras

elliott-brennan wrote:

Hi Oscar,

I have one. I can't say with certainty that it works - I rescued it 
from a working machine but haven't tested it yet.


In the spirit of Software Freedom Day it's now yours for free :)



Thanks a lot.

Can I pick it up or get a courier to pick it up ?

I don't wish to bother you with packaging, so
I'd prefer to pick up if that's alright with you.

Again, thank you.

O Plameras

Regards,

Patrick


O Plameras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:25:28 +1000
/Hi,

I'm looking for a 5.25" floppy drive (External or Internal) to recover
some program codes I have.

If you have and wish to dispose it for some cash please email me
offline. Or  I could lease it for a month or two if you still use it.

Thanks.

O Plameras





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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread John Clarke
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:56:28 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How would the parking be there at this time of day [if any exists at all
> close by] ?

Lots of meter parking, most of which becomes free at 6:00pm (or maybe
6:30pm).  Most areas have a two hour limit, and I think it's about
$2/hr.  Closer to Crows Nest some areas are metered until 10:00pm.  I
don't often park in the streets around there, but I'd expect you'd be
able to find a spot not too far away (within 10 minutes walk).


Cheers,

John
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[SLUG] Re: 5.25" Floppy Drive

2006-08-22 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi Oscar,

I have one. I can't say with certainty that it 
works - I rescued it from a working machine but 
haven't tested it yet.


In the spirit of Software Freedom Day it's now 
yours for free :)


Regards,

Patrick


O Plameras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:25:28 +1000
/Hi,

I'm looking for a 5.25" floppy drive (External or Internal) to recover
some program codes I have.

If you have and wish to dispose it for some cash please email me
offline. Or  I could lease it for a month or two if you still use it.

Thanks.

O Plameras



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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread david
How would the parking be there at this time of day [if any exists at all
close by] ?


> On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 01:12:29 +1000, Beach_Wins wrote:
>
>> I'm from Central Coast , Can you tell me if I should go to ST.Leonards
>> railway station and do I need to catch a bus .
>
> Get off the train at St Leonards, walk through the ticket barriers and
> walk straight ahead until you reach the highway.  Turn left (toward the
> city).  The IBM building, 601 Pacific Hwy, is a couple of hundred metres
> away on the left (i.e. the north side of the highway), near Westpac
> Bank.
>
> If you reach Albany St, you've gone too far.  If you go past RNS
> hospital, turn around and go back the other way :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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> traffic engineer's point of view involves trying to see out through
> intestine and abdominal wall.
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[SLUG] Pushy Windows

2006-08-22 Thread john gibbons

Any help here would be appreciated.

I had XP and Dapper working together on a partitioned drive. XP decided 
it would not boot any more because of a missing file. So I reinstalled 
it on its own previous drive partition leaving Ubuntu's untouched.  Now 
on boot up I am offered only this unattractive choice: I can select XP 
or I can select XP. Yes, it lists itself twice. No other option.


Can I do something to get Ubuntu back as an option at boot up time or 
must I now reinstall it?


John.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread John Clarke
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 01:12:29 +1000, Beach_Wins wrote:

> I'm from Central Coast , Can you tell me if I should go to ST.Leonards 
> railway station and do I need to catch a bus .

Get off the train at St Leonards, walk through the ticket barriers and
walk straight ahead until you reach the highway.  Turn left (toward the
city).  The IBM building, 601 Pacific Hwy, is a couple of hundred metres
away on the left (i.e. the north side of the highway), near Westpac
Bank.

If you reach Albany St, you've gone too far.  If you go past RNS
hospital, turn around and go back the other way :-)


Cheers,

John
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread Michael Kedzierski

On 8/22/06, Beach_Wins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I am planning to go for the 1st time. So glad to read this message as I was
planning to go to Central station.

I'm from Central Coast , Can you tell me if I should go to ST.Leonards
railway station and do I need to catch a bus .


Hi, You'll need to get off the train at Central, and get on another
train heading to hornsby via chatswood (the North Shore line). It's
walking distance from St. Leonards station I think, though I haven't
yet looked at the map.
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[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread Beach_Wins

Hi,

I am planning to go for the 1st time. So glad to read this message as I was 
planning to go to Central station.


I'm from Central Coast , Can you tell me if I should go to ST.Leonards 
railway station and do I need to catch a bus .


...Ben

- Original Message - 
From: "Lindsay Holmwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "SLUG Announce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)



G'day all,

SLUG August Monthly Meeting

When:
   25th August 2006, 18:30 - 21:30
Where:
   IBM Building, Level 17, St. Leonards

SLUG's monthly meeting featuring talks and SLUGlets. Meetings are open
to the general public, and free of charge.

This month's meeting will be at our brand new venue, the IBM building,
Level 17, 601 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.

So we can adjust to the new venue, we ask that people arrive 15
minutes earlier so we can all get into the building and start on time.

General Talk: Pascal Klein - Graphical Artistry with Free Software

Technical Talk: Jamie Wilkinson - Application Development with Pylons
and the Web Server Gateway Interface

** Meeting Schedule **

6:30pm Doors open

6.45pm Usual Suspects: Q&A - Introduction to SLUG + "What has Linux
done for/to me lately?" + SLUG News & Discussion

7:00pm General Talk: Pascal Klein - Graphical Artistry with Free Software

8.00pm Break for tea and biscuits

8:20pm Split into two groups for:

Technical Talk: Jamie Wilkinson - Application Development with Pylons
and the Web Server Gateway Interface

SLUGlets: Gaming under Linux

9:30pm: Dinner: TBA, somewhere in Crows Nest. :-)

Hope to see you all there!

Lindsay

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG August Monthly Meeting (with new venue)

2006-08-22 Thread Mark Sargent
Hi All,I've been told that one of the best ramen places in Sydney is in Crows Nest. I could get the location if it interests enough people. Cheers.Mark Sargent.
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[SLUG] 5.25" Floppy Drive (External or Internal)

2006-08-22 Thread O Plameras


/Hi,

I'm looking for a 5.25" floppy drive (External or Internal) to recover
some program codes I have.

If you have and wish to dispose it for some cash please email me
offline. Or  I could lease it for a month or two if you still use it.

Thanks.

O Plameras
/
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Software Freedom Day posters - need help

2006-08-22 Thread Andreas Fischer
There on the page provided in pia's email. :)  Here's a more direct link:http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/oceania/au/sydney#line-70
On 8/21/06, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 05:12, Pia Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi all,>> attached are two pdfs (one bw and one colour) for the SFD2006.Did you perhaps forget to include the attachments? I don't see any.
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