[SLUG] Need help-on kernel threads

2006-11-30 Thread vinaysandeep
hi,
I am working on kernel threads the distribution is Montavista 3 (linux 2.4
kernel).My problem
i wake up the kernel thread  inside an interrupt. But the thread doesnot
wakeup
all the time as soon as i wake it up.
what could be done so  that the thread wakes up as soon as it is woken from
the interrupt.
the interrupt arrives every 8msec.
the thread on waking reads 64 bytes from a file and writes it to pheripheral
chip(fpga).and goes to sleep.
  plz reply ASAP.
regards
vinay


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Re: [SLUG] laptop sound playing out onboard speaker headphones

2006-11-30 Thread Daniel Bush

Hi Sonia,

On 30/11/06, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a problem with sound on my laptop, that commenced with my upgrade
to Ubuntu Edgy - any hints on how to troubleshoot it?

The problem is that when I plug in headphones, the sound keeps playing
out the laptop speakers, thus annoying other people who have to listen
to my atrocious taste in music :-)


Try removing the pcspkr kernel module.  Check if it's there using
lsmod.  I had the same problem but when I remove it, the sound no
longer leaks from the speakers when I have my headphones in.  I use
'rmmod pcspkr' to do this.  However, when I inserted it in again using
modprobe and then removed it again, the sound problem did not go away.
So there is more going on here perhaps.

I nice side effect of removing this module is that you will also
remove the heart-attack-inducing console beep problem as well.

Daniel.
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[SLUG] reading headers:mail server delays

2006-11-30 Thread Voytek Eymont
I have a problem with mail being delayed between dodo and bigpond,
sometimes up to several days, looking at the mail header below, am I
correct in saying the dodo is not delivering mail, or, can it be some
issue at bigpond not accepting ?

needless to say, I don't have access to logs at either end.

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  for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Txxx
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Re: [SLUG] DNS and resolv.conf

2006-11-30 Thread David Gillies
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Ashley wrote:
 I have changed the resolv.conf to show the main DNSs of my provider in
 every place I can find but still I have to manually edit it each time I
 start up and several times whilst I am on line as it changes back to the
 address of my modem/router.
 Obviously there is something running that changes it back every few
 minutes but I can't guess what, so I have no idea how to stop it
 changing in Ubuntu.
 If anyone out there knows something about Ubuntu64 6.10, please give me
 a clue where to look.

Ashley,

In /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, the following line:

request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;

You just need to remove the domain-name-servers bit and it should be
all good.

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Re: [SLUG] DNS and resolv.conf

2006-11-30 Thread Ashley

Thanks Dave,
Did exactly that. I will restart the network and see if it works.
Regards
Ashley


David Gillies wrote:

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Ashley wrote:

I have changed the resolv.conf to show the main DNSs of my provider in
every place I can find but still I have to manually edit it each time I
start up and several times whilst I am on line as it changes back to the
address of my modem/router.
Obviously there is something running that changes it back every few
minutes but I can't guess what, so I have no idea how to stop it
changing in Ubuntu.
If anyone out there knows something about Ubuntu64 6.10, please give me
a clue where to look.


Ashley,

In /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, the following line:

request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;

You just need to remove the domain-name-servers bit and it should be
all good.

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Re: [SLUG] DNS and resolv.conf

2006-11-30 Thread Ashley

Ashley wrote:

Thanks Dave,
Did exactly that. I will restart the network and see if it works.
Regards
Ashley


Just to follow up, for some reason the old DNS still comes up. I seem to 
have alleviated the problem using the prepend option to put in my 
preferred DNSs and this seems to work fine.


Ashley




David Gillies wrote:

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Ashley wrote:

I have changed the resolv.conf to show the main DNSs of my provider in
every place I can find but still I have to manually edit it each time I
start up and several times whilst I am on line as it changes back to the
address of my modem/router.
Obviously there is something running that changes it back every few
minutes but I can't guess what, so I have no idea how to stop it
changing in Ubuntu.
If anyone out there knows something about Ubuntu64 6.10, please give me
a clue where to look.


Ashley,

In /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, the following line:

request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;

You just need to remove the domain-name-servers bit and it should be
all good.

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Re: [SLUG] laptop sound playing out onboard speaker headphones

2006-11-30 Thread Metrics
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 07:04:50PM +1100, Daniel Bush wrote:
 Hi Sonia,
 
 On 30/11/06, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a problem with sound on my laptop, that commenced with my upgrade
 to Ubuntu Edgy - any hints on how to troubleshoot it?
 
 The problem is that when I plug in headphones, the sound keeps playing
 out the laptop speakers, thus annoying other people who have to listen
 to my atrocious taste in music :-)
 
 Try removing the pcspkr kernel module.  Check if it's there using
 lsmod.  I had the same problem but when I remove it, the sound no
 longer leaks from the speakers when I have my headphones in.  I use
 'rmmod pcspkr' to do this.  However, when I inserted it in again using
 modprobe and then removed it again, the sound problem did not go away.
 So there is more going on here perhaps.
 
 I nice side effect of removing this module is that you will also
 remove the heart-attack-inducing console beep problem as well.
 
 Daniel.

Sonia,

You don't have two volume control settings (in alsamixer for example) by
any chance? One for headphone and one for speaker?

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Re: [SLUG] laptop sound playing out onboard speaker headphones

2006-11-30 Thread Daniel Bush

On 30/11/06, Daniel Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Sonia,

On 30/11/06, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a problem with sound on my laptop, that commenced with my upgrade
 to Ubuntu Edgy - any hints on how to troubleshoot it?

 The problem is that when I plug in headphones, the sound keeps playing
 out the laptop speakers, thus annoying other people who have to listen
 to my atrocious taste in music :-)

Try removing the pcspkr kernel module.  Check if it's there using
lsmod.  I had the same problem but when I remove it, the sound no
longer leaks from the speakers when I have my headphones in.  I use
'rmmod pcspkr' to do this.  However, when I inserted it in again using
modprobe and then removed it again, the sound problem did not go away.
 So there is more going on here perhaps.


Maybe I need to correct this.  I think the problem is when I come out
of suspend.  The pcspkr is not inserted, but the sound comes out of
the speakers with my earphones in, once again.

Daniel
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[SLUG] Re: Laptop sound playing out onboard speaker headphones

2006-11-30 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi Sonia,

This may not help at all, but (in KDE) if you open 
the mixer and select the switches option, have you 
got the 'headphone jack sensor' switched on or 
selected?


Regards,

Patrick



Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:38:35 +1100
slug@slug.org.au
I have a problem with sound on my laptop, that commenced with my upgrade
to Ubuntu Edgy - any hints on how to troubleshoot it?

The problem is that when I plug in headphones, the sound keeps playing
out the laptop speakers, thus annoying other people who have to listen
to my atrocious taste in music :-) On previous version of Ubuntu,
plugging in headphones would stop the sound coming out the laptop
speakers.

I've tried all the settings in System - Preferences - Sound (ALSA,
OSD, OSS) - no effect.

The chipset is Intel ICH6.




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Re: [SLUG] reading headers:mail server delays

2006-11-30 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Thu, November 30, 2006 7:42 pm, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 It could be either:

 Dodo is not clearing its queue
 Bigpond is sending a service temorarily unavailable message because
 there's something they don't like.

 Be thankful that dodo held it for 8 days, the default is usually 5.

 Knowing how dodo don't comply with RFCs - I'd be inclined to point the
 finger there.

Howard,

thanks for confirming my suspicions;

if BP was at fault, wouldn't it have bounced back after 5 days ?

can you point me where can I find more about dodo and RFCs ?


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Re: [SLUG] t/s dns name resolution, lack of

2006-11-30 Thread Marty Richards




Hi Voytek,

Sounds like a typical Telstra Level 1 drone attended to your call and
was less than fully useful.

This is an interesting problem.

All of the root-servers successfully refer queries to the .pl top level
servers.

All of the .pl top level servers successfully refer queries to the
correct DNS server for this domain.

All of the correct DNS servers are answering for www.gazetaprawna.pl.

So, with the exception of Telstra and Pacific (and maybe others we
haven't found yet) the DNS systems for gazetaprawna.pl are working well.

I've tested half a dozen standard DNS servers using the usual
root.hints etc and they all resolve the name successfully.

Without access to Telstra's configuration, logs or servers its
difficult to see why their name servers are failing on this domain. 

Options are:

*) Change your DNS server setting on your workstations OR add an an
entry for www.gazetaprawna.pl into their hosts file(s). This is only a
workaround but its probably the easiest way to get it working in the
short term. There are other workarounds available depending on your
client's network configuration - do they have their own DNS server?

*) Get back on to Telstra, try and get through to their DNS people
(tell the drone that this is a more complicated DNS server problem and
should be escalated to the right people)

*) Make contact with gazetaprawna.pl - they might help put some
pressure on Telstra - and there is an outside chance that Gazetaprawna
are intentionally blocking the Telstra nameservers.

*) Find a Pacific Internet customer and log a fault under their name -
Pacific are usually miles ahead of Telstra for tech support. 

Good luck! 
Cheers,
Marty

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Voytek Eymont said the following on 30/11/2006 10:34 AM:

  On Wed, November 29, 2006 12:11 pm, Marty Richards wrote:

  
  
Everything looks good for that domain in DNS land currently.

  
  
  
  
You could also log a fault with Telstra on behalf
of your BigPond customer - it doesn't hurt to attack these problems from
both sides.

  
  
Marty,

as well as tests you've done, I've tried connecting to the website from
other Bigpond users locations, it fails from all BigPond links

logging fault with BP was next to useless,
as far as BP support is concerned, it all works fine:

---
Thank you for your email dated 27 Nov regarding www.gazetaprawna.pl.

I have tested this website on a standard BigPond Cable connection, and was
able to reach it without an issue. This was done on a standalone PC, with
all DNS and IP information assigned to me by BigPond automatically. We
cannot specify a DNS server for you to access, as our system changes these
addresses depending on server load. If your computer is unable to resolve
the URL, but can successfully access the site via IP address, I would have
to advise that this is an issue with your computer or one of your other
devices.

If you have any other questions, please visit our Help Centre at
www.bigpond.com/help.

The Help Centre is a handy resource for our members which includes things
such as our Frequently Asked Questions and our new Email Troubleshooter
which has been set up to help you solve all your email problems.

Thank you for choosing BigPond.
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Re: [SLUG] reading headers:mail server delays

2006-11-30 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Fri, December 1, 2006 8:12 am, Howard Lowndes wrote:


 Try sending an email with the connection starting:

 HELO [11.22.33.44]
 and they will complain that it is not RFC compliant (can't recall which
 one they quote) and will even quote chapter and verse (3.1.1.1 IIRC), but
 they didn't bother to read a few sections down where the same RFC does
 permit that format.

thanks, Howard

 Typically, trying to take the matter up with their
 Hell Desk was an exercise in pointlesness.

I think you're extremely kind to them.


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Re: [SLUG] Simple and reliable home folder encryption for Ubuntu 6.10

2006-11-30 Thread Glen Turner

Ben wrote:

I need to encrypt the home folder on my laptop and desktop. I realise
there are vulnerabilities associated with not encrypting the whole
disk, but I'm willing to cope with a lower level of protection as I'm
more concerned about accidental loss or casual theft, rather than a
targetted attack.

I've spent some time looking up encryption and there doesn't seem to
be a shortage of choice.

I'm looking for a recommendation on a method that favours simplicity
and reliability (performance is not a major concern).


If you distribution ships pam_mount then it and dm_crypt work
well together to encrypt /home/$USER.  I use it and it just works.

If you have a machine used mainly by you, then you can use a
real/LVM partition rather than a loopback filesystem as the
dm_crypt storage. This takes out a lot of the configuration
complexity. If you use LVM then you needn't fret about
getting the partition size wrong (although growing the
encrypted file system is more work than it should be).

You should also use dm_crypt to encrypt the swap partition,
or dd /dev/random into swap as part of your shutdown.

Bloody annoyingly the Linux suspend-to-disk has no option to
send the suspended memory through encryption before it stores
it to disk.  So you can't use suspend and stay safe if someone
nicks your laptop.

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Re: [SLUG] NAT stuff

2006-11-30 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 06:06:37 +1100, O Plameras wrote:

 Yes, it's silly to complicate when you can simplify.

I agree, all other things being equal.  However, I was trying to point
out that there might be other things to consider and there may be
reasons why it would be preferably to use NAT in this case.

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you; let's just agree
to differ.


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Re: [SLUG] DNS and resolv.conf

2006-11-30 Thread Glen Turner

Ashley wrote:
I have changed the resolv.conf to show the main DNSs of my provider in 
every place I can find but still I have to manually edit it each time I 
start up and several times whilst I am on line as it changes back to the 
address of my modem/router.


Your router is supplying its address as the DNS server in the DHCP
response as it intends to do DNS forwarding.  Configure your router
with the ISP's domain name servers (although it probably got those
from its own DHCP on the ADSL interface) and let the router forward
your DNS queries to your ISP.  Your router does DNS forwarding as
it's a nice way to do firewall traversal for DNS packets and is
much more secure than letting DNS queries simply go through a
firewall (that is, you can regard the DNS forwarders as an
application-specific firewall for DNS and it can filter more attacks
than something that simply NATs packets). Some routers' DNS forwarders
will also do an amount of DNS caching and this can significantly
improve performance if the hosts do no caching of their own
(and many hosts don't, see nscd on Linux).

Better to do that then use dhclient.conf, since then your laptop
will work elsewhere (your ISP's DNS servers should not answer
queries sent to it from outside the ISP).
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Re: [SLUG] NAT stuff

2006-11-30 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:04:13 +1100, John Clarke wrote:

 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE

I should have also said that if the dual-homed host has a static address
on eth1 then you should use SNAT instead of MASQUERADE:

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o eth1 -j SNAT \
--to-source 10.0.0.1


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Re: [SLUG] NAT stuff

2006-11-30 Thread O Plameras

John Clarke wrote:

On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 06:06:37 +1100, O Plameras wrote:

  

Yes, it's silly to complicate when you can simplify.



I agree, all other things being equal.  However, I was trying to point
out that there might be other things to consider and there may be
reasons why it would be preferably to use NAT in this case.

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you; let's just agree
to differ.

  


Yes, I agree we differ in our point of view. When my views differ it 
does not

mean one or the other is wrong; it is not a case of zero-sum-game.

And I agree we leave it at that.

O Plameras

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[SLUG] SNAT and Masquerading

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Hardy

John Clarke wrote:

I should have also said that if the dual-homed host has a static address
on eth1 then you should use SNAT instead of MASQUERADE:

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o eth1 -j SNAT \
--to-source 10.0.0.1


Something that I've always wondered about, but never taken the time to 
investigate: why is SNAT preferable to MASQUERADE?


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Re: [SLUG] SNAT and Masquerading

2006-11-30 Thread Zhasper

http://lists.debian.org/debian-firewall/2002/02/msg00020.html

MASQUERADE is intended for use with dynamic addresses. The other
thing that it does differently is that if the link goes down, entries in
the nat table will be dropped with MASQUERADE. If you're using SNAT, the
entries stay in the table in case the link comes back up momentarily.
This makes sense for MASQUERADE, because when the link comes back up,
the address will (could) be different anyway, so the connections won't
ever be resumed.


On 12/1/06, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

John Clarke wrote:
 I should have also said that if the dual-homed host has a static address
 on eth1 then you should use SNAT instead of MASQUERADE:

 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o eth1 -j SNAT \
 --to-source 10.0.0.1

Something that I've always wondered about, but never taken the time to
investigate: why is SNAT preferable to MASQUERADE?

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Re: [SLUG] t/s dns name resolution, lack of

2006-11-30 Thread Glen Turner

Voytek Eymont wrote:

I have a user on BigPond cable that can no longer access a particular
domain, www.gazetaprawna.pl


Telstra can hardly help it if gazetaprawna.pl don't set their
DNS up sanely. I'm surprised it ever works (the NS are amusingly
inconsitent) and it certainly won't if the zeus.infor.pl machine
goes titsup.

Compare
 $ dig @g-dns.pl ns gazetaprawna.pl
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gazetaprawna.pl.86400   IN  NS  zeus.infor.pl.
gazetaprawna.pl.86400   IN  NS  apollo.infor.pl.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
zeus.infor.pl.  86400   IN  A   62.29.138.135
apollo.infor.pl.86400   IN  A   195.205.179.10

and
 $ dig @62.29.138.135 ns gazetaprawna.pl
;; ANSWER SECTION:
gazetaprawna.pl.86400   IN  NS  zeus.infor.pl.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
zeus.infor.pl.  86400   IN  A   193.164.157.21

and
 $ dig @195.205.179.10 ns gazetaprawna.pl
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
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Re: [SLUG] t/s dns name resolution, lack of

2006-11-30 Thread Marty Richards

Glen Turner said the following on 1/12/2006 11:14 AM:

Voytek Eymont wrote:

I have a user on BigPond cable that can no longer access a particular
domain, www.gazetaprawna.pl

snip

and
 $ dig @195.205.179.10 ns gazetaprawna.pl
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

Hi Glen,

This is new - I was getting answers from apollo.infor.pl yesterday (or 
the day before)... but its definitely not responding now.


I don't see a lot of inconsistencies in their setup. Zeus is multi homed 
but that doesn't count. What am I missing?  Thanks ;)


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[SLUG] Course

2006-11-30 Thread Michael Catanzariti
Hey Guys,
 
I am looking to under take a Linux course to get started I have used it
before but I am looking at going to tafe to start from scratch can you
recommended a course and tafe. I am located in Sydney around the
Fairfield area.
 
Thankyou,

Michael Catanzariti
Customer Service / Systems engineer
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Re: [SLUG] Course

2006-11-30 Thread John

Grandville TAFE runs various Linux courses.

On 12/1/06, Michael Catanzariti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey Guys,

I am looking to under take a Linux course to get started I have used it
before but I am looking at going to tafe to start from scratch can you
recommended a course and tafe. I am located in Sydney around the
Fairfield area.

Thankyou,

Michael Catanzariti
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[SLUG] kernel question: two i840 io controllers?

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Miller
I have a (circa 2000) motherboard which has two i840 i/o controllers, to
interleave memory accesses and thus increase memory bandwidth.  It also
has two CPUs.  Looking at drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.c it appears that
both i840 get initialized - the second one entirely by accident - to be
exactly the same.  Result: under moderate load DMA often hangs the
machine, and running under SMP, DMA hangs the machine before init is
started.

Does anyone know of a patch to cope with motherboards like this?

Google reveals numerous folks with these mobos, and no clue that it's
the dual i840s causing the problem, and a dearth of answers.  Nothing in
LKML archives, neither signal nor noise.  Apparently NetBSD added a fix
for boards like these a while back.

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Re: [SLUG] Course

2006-11-30 Thread Ken Wilson
I have done some of the courses that Geoffrey Robinson runs at Granville 
Tafe and find them useful. Prices are cheap. You wont find info on them 
via the TAFE website as they undercut the cost of some other TAFE 
courses but there are details here; http://www.gonzo.edu.au/moodle/


Ken

Michael Catanzariti wrote:

Hey Guys,
 
I am looking to under take a Linux course to get started I have used it

before but I am looking at going to tafe to start from scratch can you
recommended a course and tafe. I am located in Sydney around the
Fairfield area.
 
Thankyou,


Michael Catanzariti
Customer Service / Systems engineer
Pure Commerce

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