[SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread elliott-brennan

The SMH had some very exciting news today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/laptops--desktops/australia-trials-low-cost-laptop/2007/01/12/1168105153500.html

The OLPC are looking at trialling the laptops in 
remote indigenous communities.


Whooo h!

My .2c worth.

Regards,

Patrick


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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread elliott-brennan

H...

Howard, I'm not quite sure what to make of your 
comment.


Regards,

Patrick

Howard Lowndes wrote:



elliott-brennan wrote:

The SMH had some very exciting news today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/laptops--desktops/australia-trials-low-cost-laptop/2007/01/12/1168105153500.html 



The OLPC are looking at trialling the laptops in remote indigenous 
communities.


Are the plastics petrol proof?




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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread James Purser
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 09:33 +1100, elliott-brennan wrote:
 H...
 
 Howard, I'm not quite sure what to make of your 
 comment.
 
 Regards,
 
 Patrick

I am, and may I just send a Grow Up Howards way?
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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread David Kempe

Thats awesome. I hope they let us buy two get 1

dave

elliott-brennan wrote:

The SMH had some very exciting news today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/laptops--desktops/australia-trials-low-cost-laptop/2007/01/12/1168105153500.html 



The OLPC are looking at trialling the laptops in remote indigenous 
communities.


Whooo h!

My .2c worth.

Regards,

Patrick



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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread Glen Turner

elliott-brennan wrote:

The SMH had some very exciting news today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/laptops--desktops/australia-trials-low-cost-laptop/2007/01/12/1168105153500.html 



The OLPC are looking at trialling the laptops in remote indigenous 
communities.


Not that exciting. They are going to evaluate it in one classroom.

There's a significant chance the trial will fail as the amount of
application software aimed at children on the OLPC is currently zero
and the amount of supprting training and curriculum material is
currently zero.  The OLPC has the potential to become an expensive
white elephant unless this basic low tech and boring issues are
seen to.

There's been enough fads imposed on remote communities by special
interests with a barrow to push. Let's not add another one before
the basics of health, housing and employment are less shameful.
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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi Glen,

I agree that the standard of living (housing etc) 
for the Aboriginal population is poor, and I'm not 
aware of the limitations of the project (you seem 
to have more info about that than I do). However, 
as someone who has taught rural Aboriginal people 
at a tertiary level - one of my favourite students 
had sand as a floor, with carpet over it, and no 
grid-electricity - this is one of the things that 
provides encouragement and shows interest and 
commitment beyond the basics of living.


I agree, also, that should it fail it would be 
shameful. The knowledge to make these things works 
exists. I hope the people involved are committed 
to ensuring it does.


Regards,

Patrick

Glen Turner wrote:

elliott-brennan wrote:

The SMH had some very exciting news today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/laptops--desktops/australia-trials-low-cost-laptop/2007/01/12/1168105153500.html 



The OLPC are looking at trialling the laptops in remote indigenous 
communities.


Not that exciting. They are going to evaluate it in one classroom.

There's a significant chance the trial will fail as the amount of
application software aimed at children on the OLPC is currently zero
and the amount of supprting training and curriculum material is
currently zero.  The OLPC has the potential to become an expensive
white elephant unless this basic low tech and boring issues are
seen to.

There's been enough fads imposed on remote communities by special
interests with a barrow to push. Let's not add another one before
the basics of health, housing and employment are less shameful.





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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, elliott-brennan wrote:

 The OLPC are looking at trialling the laptops in 
 remote indigenous communities.

Very cool.

One thing I don't get about OLPC is their opposition to selling the 
machines to people like us.  It would increase their volumes and provide 
a corpus of people making Cool Shittm for the machine.  Sure, we're 
not all educators, but we'll still help.

What's more, charge a commercial margin on it while offering a no 
support guarantee and they can pour the profits back into the project.

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Re: [SLUG] OLPC to consider trialling laptops in Australia

2007-01-12 Thread Peter Hardy
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 03:10 +, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 One thing I don't get about OLPC is their opposition to selling the 
 machines to people like us.  It would increase their volumes and provide 
 a corpus of people making Cool Shittm for the machine.  Sure, we're 
 not all educators, but we'll still help.

A few days ago the BBC was reporting that one idea recently floated by
the OLPC guys was a buy two get one scheme,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6246989.stm .

If you're going to the LCA open day, make sure you ask them about
it. :-)

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