Re: [SLUG] Hosed Ubuntu by apt-get upgrade

2007-01-21 Thread lukekendall
On 21 Jan, To: Sydney Linux Users Group wrote:
  Any advice would be most welcome. 

What I've done is copied the / filesystem onto a directory under my home
directory, and then I'll re-install from CD.  At least that way I can
compare configuration files that I've done against the default ones.

I'm currently tossing up though installing a different distro after this
disastrous experience with Debian/Ubuntu's upgrade system.  The whole
reason for trying it was the idea that it's upgrade system was good.

apt on FC5 or SuSE 10 might be a better choice, I'm thinking.

luke

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[SLUG] CAcert assurance @ SLUG, Mon 22nd Jan

2007-01-21 Thread Ryan Verner

Hi there,

There was massive interest in being CAcert assured at linux.conf.au -  
so why not do one at/after the SLUG meeting tomorrow?


You'll need two forms of government issues ID (at least one with a  
photo), and the appropriate form printed out - more information at  
http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceByCAP


If you don't know about CAcert, please read more about the project at  
http://www.cacert.org/


Cheers,

R

(If you're a CAcert assurer, I'd appreciate your help if you're going  
to be there (the more, the merrier) - please let me know!  Also, if  
you have access to a printer, I'd also really appreciate spare forms  
printed out - I've got absolutely no access to one at the moment,  
unfortunately).

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Re: [SLUG] Hosed Ubuntu by apt-get upgrade

2007-01-21 Thread O Plameras

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 21 Jan, To: Sydney Linux Users Group wrote:
  
 Any advice would be most welcome. 



What I've done is copied the / filesystem onto a directory under my home
directory, and then I'll re-install from CD.  At least that way I can
compare configuration files that I've done against the default ones.

I'm currently tossing up though installing a different distro after this
disastrous experience with Debian/Ubuntu's upgrade system.  The whole
reason for trying it was the idea that it's upgrade system was good.

apt on FC5 or SuSE 10 might be a better choice, I'm thinking.
  


With Fedora, the natural tool used to install, or update (upgrade)  is 
'yum'.  From
Fedora Core 3,  I  never have to re-install, or upgrade  from  CD;  just 
update

from the internet  to Fedora C4, C5,  or  C6.

And the process is similar for all Fedora. For example from FC3 to FC4, 
I do:


1. rpm -Uvh 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/RPM/fedora-release-4-X.fc4.rpm

2. yum -y install kernel
3. reboot to new kernel
4. yum -y update

Before doing the above, ensure that in /etc/yum.repos.d/, only the 
following are enabled:

1. fedora-core.repo
2. fedora-extras.repo
3. fedora-updates.repo (I think you may also disable this)

The rest should be disabled for the duration of the upgrades.
For example, atrmps.repo, livna.repo, dag.repo, dries.repo, 
freshrpms.repo, kde-redhat.repo, etc.

should all be disabled. Restore after upgrading is completed and do this:
1. yum -y update

When upgrading from FC3 to FC6, do upgrade step-by-step, namely:
1. FC3 to FC4
2. then, FC4 to FC5
3. and finally, FC5 to FC6.
4. For backward compatibility, always install the 'compats' for your
packages.

Hope this helps.

O Plameras

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Re: [SLUG] GUI batch renaming and renumbering tool

2007-01-21 Thread elliott-brennan

Hey Ken,

Thanks for that. I had absolutely no idea. Never 
heard of it!


I've just installed it to check it out.

Again, thanks.

Regards,

Patrick

Ken Wilson wrote:
there is also prefixsuffix and thunar bulk rename in the ubuntu 
repositories

Ken

elliott-brennan wrote:

...in Digikam.

 'tools  Batch processes  Rename Images'
...allows you to choose the name you want and the number you 
wish to start renumbering from.


For all the GUI girls and guys out there (unless I'm the ONLY one :)))

One of the many cool and impressive features of Digikam!

Regards,

Patrick








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Re: [SLUG] Partitioning

2007-01-21 Thread Ashley

Hi,
Don't know if you have solved this as yet, but the way to get it to 
recognise the / partition is to delete the old / and remake it. Sounds 
silly, but it was the only way I could get it to work. No need to play 
with the others, just / I think.


HTH
Heracles


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi
This is driving me up the wossname wall. Any suggestions? Was true for dapper 
and is true for edgy:


I don't like and won't use the default partitioning. On most of my systems it 
will be (1) 10G /, (2) 1G swap, (3) rest /home


To re-install a different distro etc just blot out /.

Boot CD. Choose install. Manually partition.
[Forward]
/\ Warning No root partition. Stuck here.
--
Any blind toad on a rainy day can read: /   /dev/hda1
Any 'cheats' to say proceed anyway?

So far my only solution has been multiple tries, sometimes making entries
/home   /dev/hda3
swap/dev/hda2
/   /dev/hda1

or swapping the order hda1, hda2, hda3
some times deleting hda1 then re-creating it works. 
Typical install 30min + 45min fart-arsing around to NOT get 'no root 
partition'.
Of course, he bemoaned glumly, you let the installer choose partitions 
automatically and all is well except the /home you were trying to keep is 
toast.

James

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Re: [SLUG] GUI batch renaming and renumbering tool

2007-01-21 Thread Ken Wilson

Thats often the hard bit, finding programes that do what you want.
I browsed the applications--add/remove programes to find some which 
wasnt too bad, but browsing Synaptic, while finding some useful looking 
candidates for trying out does take too long with 20,000 packages.

Ken

elliott-brennan wrote:

Hey Ken,

Thanks for that. I had absolutely no idea. Never heard of it!

I've just installed it to check it out.

Again, thanks.

Regards,

Patrick

Ken Wilson wrote:
there is also prefixsuffix and thunar bulk rename in the ubuntu 
repositories

Ken

elliott-brennan wrote:

...in Digikam.

 'tools  Batch processes  Rename Images'
...allows you to choose the name you want and the number you wish to 
start renumbering from.


For all the GUI girls and guys out there (unless I'm the ONLY one :)))

One of the many cool and impressive features of Digikam!

Regards,

Patrick









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[SLUG] Lost + found.

2007-01-21 Thread john gibbons
I have a flash drive that will no longer open and shows only a 'Lost + 
found' file response. I tried opening it as root via the GUI but it says 
it is empty. Have I lost all my files or is there some way around this? 
Any help appreciated even if it is bad news.


John.






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[SLUG] System freeze - how to diagnose?

2007-01-21 Thread david
The power light was on, but no-one home. Nothing responding, no ping.
Other machines on the same UPS are running fine.

I rebooted and got a 30 times mounted forced disk check - no problem
there. Everything came up fine. Nothing in syslog or anywhere else I can
think of.

The only thing notable was that the activity light on a USB webcam I'm
messing with was still on, which makes me suspicious it might have to do
with that. [1] I was testing an image capture script that's cpu
intensive, and I left it running over-night, for over 12 hours - over
heating perhaps?

Any suggestions where/how to start investigating this? Nothing obvious
on Google that I can find. Ubuntu 6.10, btw.

many thanks...

David.


[1]
[17179602.072000] drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB
SPCA5XX camera found. Logitech QC Communicate STX 
[17179602.372000] usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx
[17179602.372000] drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: spca5xx
driver 00.57.08 registered


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Re: [SLUG] bash problem - renaming files with their time stamp

2007-01-21 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=david

   ls | while read file; do
  
  ls? Madness. Use find(1). :-)
 
 Why? does that overcome the bash size limitation?

Sure. Whether you use find -exec (bleah) or find | while read or find |
xargs, you won't have any problems with bash size limitations.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] ATI Radeon 64 bit drivers

2007-01-21 Thread Ashley

Hi All,
Great LCA2007 eh!
I have a small problem with my ATI Radeon 9250. I have downloaded the 64 
bit installer but it fails with the message ati-installer.sh: 165: 
syntax error: bad substitution.
Is this a bug in the system or is it something else? Any clue would be 
helpful.

TIA
Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] ATI Radeon 64 bit drivers

2007-01-21 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Ashley wrote:

 Hi All,
 Great LCA2007 eh!
 I have a small problem with my ATI Radeon 9250. I have downloaded the 64 
 bit installer but it fails with the message ati-installer.sh: 165: 
 syntax error: bad substitution.

The place to start looking is line 165 of ati-installer.sh. It may be
something as simple as you missing some utility program that just needs
an apt-get install.

 Is this a bug in the system or is it something else?

Probably crappy installer script.

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[SLUG] REMINDER: SLUG meeting tonight

2007-01-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer

It is the Monday after LCA and we have our monthly SLUG meeting
tonight on this exceptional day. I hope you all kept your calenders
clear for it because we have some awesome speakers from LCA providing
us with their insights.

ANNOUCEMENT

22nd January: SLUG monthly meeting (yes, on Monday after LCA)

Start: 2007-01-22 18:30
End: 2007-01-22 21:30

Location: Level 13, IBM Building, 601 Pacific Highway, St Leonards

Agenda:
   * 6:30pm: Open Doors
   * 6.45pm: The Usual Suspects
   * 7:00pm: General Talk: Holger Levsen (DebConf), Experiences from
Conference Video Recording and Streaming
   * 8:20pm: Technical Talk: Mikal Still (Google), Managing servers
the slack way
   * 8:20pm: SLUGlets Theme: Google Summer of Code; Leslie Hawthorn (Google)
   * 9:20pm: Dinner: (TBD)

Please also note that the Linux Chix are meeting at 5:30pm in Olio,
Shop 1, The Forum, Artarmon (more info: http://sydney.linuxchix.org/).

See you all tonight!

Cheers,
Silvia.
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Re: [SLUG] System freeze - how to diagnose?

2007-01-21 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:13:24AM +1100, david wrote:
 The power light was on, but no-one home. Nothing responding, no ping.
 Other machines on the same UPS are running fine.
 
 I rebooted and got a 30 times mounted forced disk check - no problem
 there. Everything came up fine. Nothing in syslog or anywhere else I can
 think of.
 
 The only thing notable was that the activity light on a USB webcam I'm
 messing with was still on, which makes me suspicious it might have to do
 with that. [1] I was testing an image capture script that's cpu
 intensive, and I left it running over-night, for over 12 hours - over
 heating perhaps?
 
 Any suggestions where/how to start investigating this? Nothing obvious
 on Google that I can find. Ubuntu 6.10, btw.
 
 many thanks...

if you have another machine, connect the 2 together by serial cable and send
your console out the serial cable.  Start up minicom on the 2nd box and what
for it to crash.

Also did you try alt+sysrq magic key combo ?

 
 David.
 
 
 [1]
 [17179602.072000] drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB
 SPCA5XX camera found. Logitech QC Communicate STX 
 [17179602.372000] usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx
 [17179602.372000] drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: spca5xx
 driver 00.57.08 registered
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] System freeze - how to diagnose?

2007-01-21 Thread david
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 13:46 +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:13:24AM +1100, david wrote:
  The power light was on, but no-one home. Nothing responding, no ping.
  Other machines on the same UPS are running fine.
  
  I rebooted and got a 30 times mounted forced disk check - no problem
  there. Everything came up fine. Nothing in syslog or anywhere else I can
  think of.
  
  The only thing notable was that the activity light on a USB webcam I'm
  messing with was still on, which makes me suspicious it might have to do
  with that. [1] I was testing an image capture script that's cpu
  intensive, and I left it running over-night, for over 12 hours - over
  heating perhaps?
  
  Any suggestions where/how to start investigating this? Nothing obvious
  on Google that I can find. Ubuntu 6.10, btw.
  
  many thanks...
 
 if you have another machine, connect the 2 together by serial cable and send
 your console out the serial cable.  Start up minicom on the 2nd box and what
 for it to crash.
 

sounds reasonable ;-) sounds like I need to run it overnight again and
try to reproduce the problem.

 Also did you try alt+sysrq magic key combo ?
 

I hadn't heard of this, but it looks like it only works from console,
not from a Gnome terminal.


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